Are there more opportunities to get rich by helping people or by harming people?

how many points do you have in persuasion

Dude is good

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what the fuck are you even talking about

You can make decent money by helping people, you can make huge money by hurting people.

Yawn. Back to r/DarkTriad pls. Take your edge with you.
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Real answer is you convince people you're helping them. In actuality, you are barely doing anything for them and just convince them you are while you line your pockets. Or, you are doing good but charging way too fucking much for it.

See medicine in the US and US politics for reference.

>Who would pay for something that hurts them?
I sold cocaine for quite awhile, when its raw its worth twice the worth of gold where im from

Depends. Take minimum wage, for example. If you're McDonald's a higher minimum wage is going to add to your expenses and eat into your bottom line (at least short term). That's pretty straightforward. However, if minimum wage goes up across the board then you are not at a particular disadvantage compared to your competitors. More money in the hands of the bottom classes means more disposable income they can spend on your products. Plus if the political climate is shifting that direction anyway it provides a lot of good PR to take the lead and begin offering it before everyone else and to lobby for it. All those dominoes however aren't guaranteed to fall, so you need to make a choice whether to gamble on the common good working or for you or fight against it.

I went to an A&W in may (they raise minimum wage in april where i live yearly)
I said "you guys raised your prices"
They said "yeah minimum wage went up"
Then the same when i got coffee elsewhere

If you make more per hour, then you're likely making more than the price increase is taking away, unless your employer is just being greedy. The employer knows they can increase prices more than the cost of a price increase, make a net gain, and obfuscate their greed with a gesture of goodwill (or act like it was forced on them). It's a case by case issue but there's no way to know without seeing the books. This is also something to consider from the employer's point of view when making the decision.

Also, I can't find info for A&W specifically since they are a subsidiary, but Yum! Brands (their parent company) makes about 27% of it's revenue as profit (ie. after labor expenses have been paid). So, it's not like they don't have room for better wages without increasing cost. But then, that's the philosophic argument between whether shareholders deserve priority over workers.

There's a reason why so many CEOs have sociopathic traits.

Psychopaths not sociopaths

Shareholders probly wouldnt invest without a decwnt return. A business is ultimately owned by its share holders. There for a business's only real obligation is to make money

Define "helping people."
I'd like to think the harm pinned to many businesses is initially unintentional. The capacity for products/services to maim or kill people is something to be capitalized on for weapons manufacturers and assassins/mercenaries.

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That's one opinion, though there are others. Not everyone believes a company is without obligation to look out for its workers or the community. We might, for example, say it is in the interest of a country to have its government mandate a company pay higher wages to its domestic employees if most of the shareholders are foreign and profits are being sent outside the country.

That should be a thing. We started doing something similar in canada since a large portion of our oil fields are owned by china. I think the issue here was they weren't hiring enough canadians

>making references to reddit shit I don't even know about
>I'm the one that should go back

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True, but the hallmark of a sociopath isn't a desire to hurt others but an extreme callousness to the well being of others. Meaning, a sociopath would be extremely comfortable engaging in business practices that explicitly harm other people so long as he benefits. He wouldn't be doing it TO hurt people, but he wouldn't give a fuck if he did.

Not every company has public shareholders.

A psychopathic diagnosis requires a lot of boxes to be ticked, such as ruthlessness, narcissism, persuasiveness, the inability to feel guilt, or the inability to see things from another person's perspective.
I use to take psych in university. You dont see sociopaths in those types of positions, a lot of CEO's are thought to be psychopaths

That is true

Psychopath and sociopath are both words for a person with ASPD mr. I took psych in college

Regardless of the specifics of the definitions, what I said was sociopathic "TRAITS" not diagnoses. You can have the traits without the disorder.

Theres still a a difference between the two terms. If you want to get technical psychopath is a clinical term where as sociopath isn't really

It has been quite a long time since i've been to university. Also wasn't my major

Neither is a clinical term, at least not today, so if you want to get technical you're technically wrong

It was when i was in school

But you're right it was later called anti social personality disorder

I doubt you went to college before 1980

You're literally admitting that using people can make you money. That's a form of harm even if you pass it off it as "helping".

Lets just say im retiring in three years if all goes well

sure

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Well i wish i was joking. I'm retiring and my son will be taking the reins.

why do you feel the need to lie to anonymous strangers

God forbid an older guy come on here.

Selling drugs to people is not helping them you fucking retard. Exploiting people is not helping them either. Quit LARPing.

an older successful business owner? not likely

This kind of thinking and ignorance is what is dangerous. When min wage went from $5 something to $7something, overnight prices went up MORE than the min wage increase. Never be fooled by that absolute retardation. When min wage increases, prices increase by a disproportionate amount. I’ve seent it and experienced it myself. Wages rise by supply and demand. If you find retards willing to work for min wage you take it, but once you cannot, you increase your wages.

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>prices for shitty burgers and french fries go up
oh the horror

When the price of hamburgers go up the price of other food goes up as well. Prices are never as cheap as they can be, only as cheap as they have to be. If the price of hamburger goes up because the rich guy sure as hell isn't going to slice into his own profit, the price of steak can go up because its steak and not hamburger.

Proof of this or wild speculation

You can live comfortable by helping. Nobody gets rich without harming people.

Your answer is kind of of stupid at its face too. CEOs aren't going around punching people in the face and running off with their wallets but corporate raiders are essentially doing the equivalent on a mass scale. And by your cigarette "logic" if you were off to spend the night drinking the mugger "helped" prevent you from getting a hangover by stealing your partying money. .

you gota break eggs to make an omelette op.

Price of gas. Gas prices we see at the pump fluctuate on a daily basis that are not entirely dependent on the price of oil but also speculation of need Whole sale gas prices also fluctuate. Unless they're in a high volume area, few gas stations have their tanks filled on a daily basis and many may only have them refilled on weekly basis. Rate of refill varies from station to station and amount they paid for that refill varies from station to station. Yet price you pay doesn't directly correlate with price they paid. The price you pay relates to what everyone else is charging. That's why you never see more than a few cents difference in gas prices. The gas station that got its gas cheaper doesn't need to give you the same relative savings ie sell it for 12 cents cheaper. It only needs to sell it less than the other gas station, 2 cents cheaper, to gain the same benefit of being cheaper. Cheap as they have to be (more profit), not cheap as they can be (same profit)

All of that you just described is regulated by supply and demand, not a reflection of wages or income.

Definitely helping people, but it requires skill. Anyone can harm people.