The evidence for a flat earth is derived from many different facets of science and philosophy. The simplest is by relying on ones own senses to discern the true nature of the world around us. The world looks flat, the bottoms of clouds are flat, the movement of the sun; these are all examples of your senses telling you that we do not live on a spherical heliocentric world. This is using what's called an empirical approach, or an approach that relies on information from your senses. Alternatively, when using Descartes' method of Cartesian doubt to skeptically view the world around us, one quickly finds that the notion of a spherical world is the theory which has the burden of proof and not flat earth theory.
Perhaps the best example of flat earth proof is the Bedford Level Experiment. In short, this was an experiment performed many times on a six-mile stretch of water that proved the surface of the water to be flat. It did not conform to the curvature of the earth that round earth proponents teach.
Btw, NASA spent $650 million on a plane (dreamchaser) that takes off, Hides in the clouds, Then lands again with the astronauts who are shot into the upper atmosphere on the other dreamchaser, but land secretly in the ocean shortly after. This is done as a ruse to ensure we keep believing in a round earth. How do you feel about nasa spending $650 million of taxpayers money to continue faking round earth?
I have yet to see a proper counterargument that does NOT have the following: 1. Fake JEW math 2. Fake CGI images/video 3. Hearsay 'witness' accounts from PAID government employees
It's time to wake up and unlock your mind. You're better than this. Fuck the Jewish (((dominated))) 'scientific' community. The earth is flat.
Flat Earthers use their senses and their senses only because they don't have the brain power to use any form of measurement instrument or decipher any form of experimental result.
Daniel Wright
Let's go find the edge so I can push you off
Jose Taylor
Strange question. Let's say I'm standing at the North Pole. I take ten steps back. Still facing the pole. Shouldn't I be spinning so fast that I can see myself?
Jaxon James
>The evidence for a flat earth
kek, you lost me there user. enjoy being a stupid cunt while society continues as normal around you, laughing at you the entire time
Lincoln King
Based and redpilled /thread
Leo Ortiz
>How don you feel about NASA spending 650 million of tax payer money
Pretty damn good actually. See friend it works like this. If you spend money, it's gone. So like the idiot you are you think that's how it works with the government funding programs, but, it's not...
NASA spends that money on fuel (which is taxed) research and development, Worker wages (taxed). Steel, aluminum (taxed taxed taxed), computer parts, contractors, so on and so on... The money boomerangs back to the government, jobs are created and sustained in every 3rd party industry involved, businesses are created and sustained, and you get to have the kickbacks from all the technology developments. not to mention things like gps, which, i think is pretty handy.
The government isn't "wasting money". They're investing, getting a return and it benefits literally every last one of us from jobs to luxury items.
Also the earth is round. You're a moron.
Jordan Jones
big AND true
Chase Bennett
To be fair he did mention the Bedford level experiment which is quite empirical.. he just fucked up on the part where it did find the earth was flat. It's used in that dumb documentary flat Earthers made and their failure is in the goddamn documentary.
Carter Ross
"Society" "normal" Stay brianwashed kid.
Hudson Wilson
Imagine being so fucking stupid that u think the answers to life are anywhere outside of ourselves. Space.....what a fucking waste of time. It's literally space. Empty fucking space.
Nolan Wilson
So when it’s night time in America and day time in China, how do you explain that? Flat earth disproved
Juan Flores
No need to explain that much to a moron, he won't understand anyway.
The recent resurgence of the Flat-Earthers makes me suspect that they are currently receiving support from rich backers. The rich backers are doing this to try and discredit the Geocentrists. We can turn the tables on them by forming an alliance between the Flat Earthers and the Geocentrists.
>how can steam rise up from my kettle if gravity is real >how do compasses work >what is proximity of airfields and airline safety You only need to google 'why are there no flight paths over the poles' >how do far away lightsources on water surfaces work
Ryder Rodriguez
How to explain the earth's magnetic field? How do plate tectonics work on a disc? Why is the sun run round if gravity doesn't exist? How do you explain the curious effect on flat world? Why don't we have picture of the edge of the earth? Surely someone would have tried to drop something off the edge and film it.
Coriolis Effect I spelled it wrong and check the wrong thing on autocorrect
Jordan Rivera
>i recognize it as a (((hoax))) to discredit the truth So why would one do this? You recognize how oil floats on water right? You understadn that warm air rises from your kettle right? You realise that clouds have very little water per volume right? Then how is it weird that they float?
Liam Edwards
That image is pure bunk.
Where's the elephants?
Isaiah Phillips
Sage
Dominic James
because millions of tons of water don't work that way, globehead
Benjamin Sanchez
So how do they work then?
Aaron Hughes
Magnets.
Jeremiah Hill
So clouds float because of magnets?
Hunter Morris
Ok..so where the edges at???
Xavier Myers
they're obviously part of the firmament do your research before touting kike lies to us.
Benjamin Collins
right, you are obviously a troll if not, try to float some water for me with some magnets
Then why don't they continue to float away into infinity?
Andrew Martin
sage
Nolan Ward
Magnets definitely work on a flat earth bud. You're asserting you know what the sun is and it's shape.
Trying to prove the Earth is a sphere at 24901 miles in circumference & spinning at over 1000 miles per hour by putting your head in the toilet and seeing what way it rotates is not science. The shape of the container and the direction at which the water entered the container determines the direction of rotation.
I don’t understand the flat earth conspiracy at all. What would there be to gain by convincing people the earth is flat?
Juan Fisher
>Buy telescope >Observe space station orbiting Earth
Literally that easy.
Eli Williams
In the case where they float away, and they come from water on earth, then where does the water on earth come from? It would be like draining a bucket, the amount of water could only reduce. Also, one might note that clouds stay at the same altitude for a longer period.
Aiden Jones
is just a fad so stupid people can feel special
Kayden Gray
jewish hologram
Jose Foster
Still nothing to this?
Jayden Sullivan
you don't even need a telescope. you can do it with your naked eye, or binoculars
Ryder Hill
Clouds and steam seem gravity defying for me. But if you're asserting that gravity is real please prove So. Show me a scientific experiment that proves gravity using the scientific method and is repeatable >inb4 Cavendish
Leo Baker
globe earth is perpetuated by satanist jews so they can strip away the creation myth, geocentrism, and god as a whole in order to be able to fully apply their dark intentions
Brayden Peterson
Have you seen OP's pic?
The water going over the rim is more of a riddle there.
Also if you need proof, go look up interstellar clouds. This is how they form.
Anthony Flores
Fun fact: water vapor is less dense than air.
Jordan Wright
Interesting things is yes there is something up there. But you can't verify the actual size nor how far away it is. That could be anything, plane or a drone. You know you can actually see through the solar panels? Lmao that thing is like 300 mile up yet its so crystal clear
Nolan Martinez
Exactly. I'm not sure if you are for or against me but yeah this proves my point
Landon Morales
idunno lol.
This thread has been derailed since the OP.
Josiah Anderson
what's inside you that's more interesting than a celestial fucking body
Parker Wright
literally let anything fall to the ground
Jayden Lee
>(You)
Chase Clark
What's wrong with Cavendish?
You literally can build one of those contraptions by yourself and verify gravity.
Justin Watson
clouds do not 'defy' gravity. You can google 'why do clouds float' and find plenty of explanation.
Tyler Myers
Things falling is not a scientific experiment lol. All you're doing is observing and effect, you can't prove a causation. Weirrd so you have to assume gravity is real in order to prove it? Globe Zealot But I'll play along with this retard experiment. If dropping something is scientific then name hypothesis, then the independent variable, dependent variable and how you manipulated the IV to measure its effects with the DV
Xavier Wilson
The earths curviture is 3 miles so if you were to walk 3 miles away you would no longer see the pole Also the human eye can see as far as the andromeda star system so if the earth were flat we would be able to see one edge from the other edge
Bentley Wright
I'm sure you can bud.
Globe Zealots busting out Cavendish lol. You're wrong on multiple fronts here.(1) First, Cavendish did not determine either G or M: he determined the average density of the earth, which he expressed as a specific gravity, or a ratio of the earth's density to the density of water. CAVENDISH has no viable independent variable nor a observed natural phenomena it does not follow the scientific method whatsoever. And people fail it all the time and people can't even get the same results he did. ALSO that's mass attracting mass. Newtonian gravity has been thrown out in 1915. Einsteinian gravity is now part the current globe model.
Matthew Bell
No it's a 24 hour merry go round
>JEW math No flat projection accounts for distances and plane flights, fuel capacity etc.
Also I love the whole >use your own senses >believe the Bedford experiment
Keep up the good memes
Blake Thomas
Your trips disgust me as you are clearly not worthy and the photo is zoomed in fuckwit
Thomas Peterson
Wrong. You're forgetting that looking up at the sky isn't the same as look straight ahead. You can't see infinitely far smart guy. But here's what's really awesome. You CAN see farther on a flat earth.
>Globe Zealots busting out Cavendish lol. I was referring to the torsion balance he built.
You can use it to prove that 2 arbitrary masses will attract each other, regardless of the actual value of _G.
Jackson Phillips
Definition of science is the study of the natural world Not the study of man-made Contraptions. We know their causes. ManProblem with Cavendish is the following, you have no P value, it does not correlate with falling , there's no observed natural phenomenon, there is no evidence of universality. Find your Cavendish in the natural world.
Cavendish is not a scientific experiment therefore it does not prove gravity. What a joke
Jose Ross
There is only one shape that consistently and always projects a circle regardless of orientation. The projected circle can be seen on the moon. It's how even ancient cultures figured out what you fagtards claim is false.
Leo Price
What an illogical way to think. How does looking up prove what you're standing on? Also lemme ask you this. If it's midnight on the globe earth and you have crescent moon high in the sky- where is the sun?
Jaxson Moore
You're just stringing words together without making sense.
Josiah Torres
I'm not. The Cavendish is observed nowhere in nature. It doesn't replicate anything we view in the natural world. And again it is not a scientific experiment that follows the scientific method. You should look up the scientific method, it might stop you from being a globie
Jace Flores
Dear copypasta OP, here is my copypasta reply. You may recognise it from many of your other threads you started with this same copypasta:
OP I will present you an opportunity to prove the Earth CANNOT be a flat plane, if you will accept it as it meets your criteria: No >fake JEW math or in fact no math at all. No >Fake CGI images/video only experimental data you yourself can gather. And no >Hearsay 'witness' accounts from PAID government employees as you and those you trust need be the only ones to handle the data.
Will you accept an opportunity such as this?
Joshua Scott
Let me spell this out for you, on the remote chance anything gets in your preoccupied mind:
observation: things fall down on earth. possible explanation: 2 masses extract each other with a force proportional to m1 x m2
experiment: build Cavendish apparatus. observe.
Result: 2 masses seem to attract each other as stated above
our theory holds up to our experiment.
Alexander Rogers
if the earth is flat, and the sun rotates above it in a circular path, why doesn't the sun set in the west in exactly the same point every day of the year?
Hunter Barnes
>The Cavendish experiment doesn't follow the scientific method!
>Formulate a question Do bodies with mass attract one another? >Develop a hypothesis The degree of attraction between masses is proportional to mass and inversely proportional to distance. >Make a prediction Bodies with mass can be demonstrated to attract one another by measuring the torsion coefficient of a balance with two equal masses in the vicinity of two other masses equal distances away from either end. Separate experimental methods for measuring the relative torsion force created by the attraction on a torsion balance can be set up for either mass of the attracting object or distance from attracting object. >Test the prediction in a way that is Falsifiable and Repeatable >repeatable check, many people have done the experiment >falsifiable check, its results are easily falsifiable >Analyse the results The results say you're a faggot who doesn't understand the scientific method.
Nolan Ortiz
>The evidence for a flat earth is... ... nonexistent. The only 'evidence' ever presented comes in the form of very narrow, specific instances of apparent conflicts in memes created by flat-Earth tards (FETs) that purposely misrepresent the facts behind them. There is not one shred of evidence that argues for a flat Earth that cannot be explained better in a spherical Earth model and/or matches and meshes with other evidence too. Every single meme from the FETs is flawed. FETs will not concede if they can't deny the truth, or they will fall back on calling you 'retard' or 'shill.' FETs are 90% absolute liars/trolls, and 10% complete idiots who have no idea how to think critically or apply physics/optics to what they see. Everything they say relies on convincing others ironically that *they're* gullible or stupid. If you believe them, you are. That's the story. That's flat Earth in a nutshell.
Don't listen to nasa, or the govt, the media, or the so called scientists! They want to keep you in the dark, believing the lie that the earth is flat like a completely ignorant fool, but I have news... It's not. They're all in it together you see, in a massive global conspiracy to keep us blindly convinced that the earth is flat and that we can never get past the ice wall anyway, or make it halfway past the elephants, (Not to mention the turtles). This is of course to force us to work jobs in their companies buying their products, when our proper place is living on the backs of the giant turtle and eating the space parasites that it of course occasionally collects on its travels through the cosmos Its funny when these clueless literal sheeple try and "debunk" or make points on flat earth. when at the same time they know nothing about flat earth and just show there ignorance on the subject. imagine trying to debate someone who knows nothing on the other side and only theres. They will not let go of there indoctrinated space/gravity delusion with there made up math equations and pseudoscience. They believe in space because there government and tv tells them. Its impossible to have conversations with these people. Thats why we beg them to just research it themselves. But there precious egos and weak minded brains cannot comprehend being lied to this intensely.
Mason Brooks
It doesn't need to be an exact model of the real world of it can be demonstrated as an analogue. You're a retard.
Jordan Harris
What exactly are those dark intentions?
Robert Bailey
when a crescent moon is observed in the night sky the earth is sitting between the sun & moon blocking part of the sun's rays from reaching the moon.
Carson Carter
godless hedonism, destruction of all whites, ultimately the end of the civilized western world
Flat earth threads have been popping up alot, someone is definitely trolling, or is actually retarded.
Camden Myers
To what end?
Isaiah Jackson
it is in the jews nature to be destructive ants have no end in mind when they devour for their hive, neither does the jew
Eli Turner
why is australia falling off the edge?
Chase Brooks
>representing Pluto as a planet
Eli Brown
That's definitely not a scientific experiment smartie. What's the independent and dependant variable? You certainly aren't manipulated gravity lmao. And that's not even a hypothesis. A hypothesis should be "if this, than that" the the Cavendish apparatus is NOT naturally observed. Horizontal attraction between mass is retard level shit. Again, its not a scientific experiment
Luis Martin
It's an easy troll. No-one in their right mind actually believes Earth is flat. So claiming it and making really stupid claims and showing mind-bogglingly stupid memes is an easy attractor.
I'm talking about a crescent moon, high in the sky at midnight bub. Go ahead and show me a diagram of that on your model
William Price
i really want to know what is on the underside if the earth is flat, ive watched videos on this and no one ever talks about what is on the underside of the flat earth disk, anyone know the answer?
Josiah Morris
and flipped 90° off it's actual inclination
Ethan Brown
>That's not the scientific method either bud you might need help with it. The absence of substance in your response obviates your own ignorance of what constitutes a scientific method.
Kevin Phillips
That's not how you do physics. You don't manipulate laws, you measure their supposed effects.
Okay Bud, then how come you can see polaris in the northern hemisphere but not the southern? And how is weather the opposite on the 2 hemispheres? And how come pilots don't fly in a straight line when traveling long destinations?
Tyler Rivera
>uranus is the wrong color.
uranus bleaching?
Mason Myers
Might be tatto'd
Gavin Ross
>And how come pilots don't fly in a straight line when traveling long destinations? Actually they do fly a straight line. It just looks curved when plotted on a flat map. But use a string and keep it taught at the start and end points over a globe, and you'll see it follows the shortest distance around the sphere.
Aiden Jenkins
thank you brother i will make my contribution of homemade memes 2
What substances? Your presupposition is that gravity is real therefore is proven? Name me the independent and dependant variable. You can't because the Cavendish has none, it's does not follow the scientific method.
Gravity isn't a law, it's a theory. Things falling is a law. Mass attracting mass and Einsteinian gravity have never been proven ever.
Jaxson Miller
It's actually funny to see all these shitty edits trying to proclaim flat earth
Juan Richardson
now i have seen that but didn't know if it was still current belief, most were older Indian (asia) prints and the like
Jose Wilson
The weather isn't lmao ever heard of a anti-cyclone smart guy? Also you ever see a hurricane on the equator? Learn more about your beliefs before you spout reddit tier talking points.
Sort of. It's not funny when gullible idiots become members of school boards and try to seriously promote this shit into curricula and textbooks.
Kevin Moore
What is the Zodiac? Stars to the north and south stay visible year round, but along the equatorial plane changes month by month.
Jackson Kelly
>says that's not the scientific method >Posts a picture that does exactly what I just described with fewer steps
>Ask a question I already said this see >Formulate a question
>Form a hypothesis Again see >Develop a hypothesis
>Test the hypothesis Covers the steps in >Make a prediction Also known as experimental design. >Test the prediction in a way that is falsifiable and repeatable. In the Cavendish case this involves an independent variable (mass or distance of attracting object depending which you wish to test), a dependent variable (torsion), and several control variables including mass of attracted object and initial torsion on the balance.
>Draw conclusions The only conclusion is you really don't want to admit that using the Cavendish experiment to demonstrate the existence of gravity is scientific. But it is as demonstrated here. Therefore, you're a sore loser and a denier of science.
Talking more summer/winter solstice wise and day length.
Nathaniel Diaz
the fire control solution for missiles has to take the curvature of the earth into account for ordinance to be put on target
Aiden Hernandez
Lol No. That doesnt make any fucking sense. Even if it take into account that light cant illuminate every, how come you cant see the sun at night? Using this example, I'd still see the light bulb.
Also, you can't really explain why people in the hemispheres see different stars in a Flat Earth model.
Alexander Taylor
Excuse my confusion with weather and seasons
Brandon Flores
>Independent variable Mass of attracting objects >Dependent variable Torsion on the balance after a test period >Control variables Position of attracting objects Duration of each test period Initial torsion prior to test
Anthony Hall
Flat earthers never travel.
It might upset their delicate minds.
Liam Foster
Same logic applies to people with a trap dick in their ass somehow thinking they aren't gay.
Brandon Allen
How do magnets work on a flat Earth?
Elijah Ramirez
>If it's midnight on the globe earth and you have crescent moon high in the sky ... you're in the Twilight Zone. Crescent moons do not appear at midnight high in the sky. Ever. If you mean a partially eclipsed moon, well then... ... and that changes visibly over a few minutes, and the terminator is shaped differently - half an ellipse for the phase, varying portions of a disk for an eclipse.
Why does water vapour just stay there then if there is no force making it go down? That is inconsistent.
Anthony Butler
If the sun is 1.391mkm across, putting out the lumens you say it does. 93lumens by 1050 watts per sq meter by the time the light even reaches us here. It's 149.6mkm from earth, why do we have night time? I don't think you even understand how bright the sun is by your own measures. 93lumens @ 1kwh with the way light refracts off of water we would never have night time. Keep in mind that the sun by their logic, is 1.3million earths in size. The sun at that physical size at the distance Google claims, the sun would take up 49.66666666667% of the sky.
I take great umbrage at ball earthers who deny basic homeschool level math. The earth is flat and gigantic and the sun is tiny in comparison. Space isn't what you think.
Humans and their contraptions are part of the natural world. Holy shit please learn to philosophy.
David Moore
A hypothesis is a proposed explanation for some sort of phenomenon. What you are describing (if this, then that) is an hypothesis and a prediction. There is no formal way to write an hypothesis.
Also, the independent variable would be the ratio of the mass of the objects, and the dependent variable would be the degree of movement.
Please come back and propose some actual scientific experiment to verify that the Earth is flat, which I take is your positive claim.
Tyler Davis
Wrong. What do you think the experimental process is bud? You still can't name independent variable nor dependent variable
Mass of attracting objects is a independent variable? Are you joking lmao? How are you manipulating the attraction of the mass? What a joke. Globe Zealot clinging to this ball and he ain't letting go Wrong try again retard. We don't observe horizontal attraction ANYWHERE. All we do is observe things falling.
If-this-than-that
Brody Evans
Imagine being unironically, this fucking stupid.
Gabriel Robinson
Not sure what "this" is. But during an eclipse, the Moon passes through teh Earth's umbra. The Earth is roughly spherical, so the shadow is roughly round. Pic related has five exposure with the camera pointed at the same spot in the sky as the Moon traveled though the umbra. The terminator (sort of - not exactly the line between night and day) is part of a disk (no, not like the Earth is flat and a disk - its shadow as seen from Earth appears disk-like).
That's not an independent variable bud. You're talking horizontal attraction which is something we never see in nature. The ratio of the mass of the objects is not viable either lol. You naming proponents of the experiment doesn't make the the variables that you're measuring. You're not manipulating gravity in anyway. You're observing an apparatus moving and you can't verify if that movement is gravity. Which it isn't. Actually grasping for straws lol
Nathaniel Morgan
>You're talking horizontal attraction which is something we never see in nature. Are you retarded?
You hang 2 weights from a bit of string and see them attract each other. How is this not in nature?
Just because you're in your shed you didn't leave nature.
Joshua Russell
We actually do see different stars at night, depending on the season. It took me a whole fucking five seconds to research that.
Christopher Price
Your math is off.
Distance to visible size is a simple ratio. 1391000/149600000=0.00929812834
Chase Lee
so what causes a crescent moon (or any phase of the moon) in the flat earth theory?
Jonathan Morales
If (hypothesis) then (prediction). Science education is really failing.
Jose Rivera
Flat earthers seem to consistently get their +-/* wrong.
Colton Collins
Wait, are you saying I am wrong that humans aren't part of the natural world? Are you outside of existence?
Austin Rogers
Don't you know GOD made us?
Same reason the earth isn't round like every other celestial body.
Jose Bell
>Wrong. What do you think the experimental process is bud? You still can't name independent variable nor dependent variable. >independent variable (mass or distance of attracting object depending which you wish to test), a dependent variable (torsion), and several control variables including mass of attracted object and initial torsion on the balance.
Confirmed for trolling.
Jace Powell
If gravity is a property of things that have mass and you change the ratio of that mass then you are by proxy changing the gravity.
We can pretty reasonably rule out other explanations for the movement of these bodies. We don't know what causes this attraction but it very clearly exists unless you are backing away from empiricism as useful, which then throws flat Earth claims out the window
Brandon Myers
By that logic, the roughly 1.6 quadrillion tons of oxygen couldn't float, either.
Jason Cooper
>Mass of attracting objects is a independent variable? Yes. >How are you manipulating the attraction of mass I'm not. I'm manipulating the mass to prove that the different masses provide a different attractive force. That is how independent variables are used.
Isaiah Harris
Questions for flatearthers:
1 - Who determined the first flight routes of the planes? I mean, the first pilots of airplanes would realize that the earth is flat. How did they hide this secret?
2 - What happens if you reach the limit of the antarctic? do you see the whole universe? Wouldn't that be the best place to do satellite launches?
3 - What is on the opposite side of the planet? A desert like Mars?
shit like this actually makes me question the globe.
Sebastian Reed
sure thing globehead
Kevin Perry
Earth's atmosphere acts like a lens and bends light down.
You can see farther than you would be able in a vacuum.
Also I can't be bothered to verify the math in that post.
Wyatt Hernandez
Oh my god i was laughing my ass off at that. Fucking retards. Oh also >heres our 25 thousand dollar laser gyroscope it proved the earth was round unfortunately lol so were going to completely encase it in bismuth for next time
Matthew Bell
Some people can't find a globe if it hits them in the ass.
Logan Thompson
Ah yes, poor choice of words.
Gravity is experimentally verified.
Kevin Torres
Are these threads primarily Russian propagandists spreading misinformation, or are you doing their job for them at this point?
Thomas Williams
ok, but why does it do that? i'm a little retarded.
Evan Phillips
>the government Lol which government? All governments unanimously agree that the earth is round, including mortal enimies, who have no reason to agree. Even global cooperations agree that the earth is round, even those that gain nothing from maintaining this conpericy. >tfw your conpericy was disproven 35,000 years ago by some dudes with some sticks.
Gabriel Howard
It's the crux of the whole flat earth discussion though.
I can make up a ton of stupid shit all day long, while doing actual science takes a lot of work and in the end you still got no "proof".
Ryder Powell
Because it gets less dense the higher you get.
Daniel Lopez
No proof of flat either. Plenty of interlocking evidence for spheroid that creates a coherent model.
Not one piece of evidence for flat that isn't at odds with at least most observable phenomena on Earth.
Adam Peterson
ok, but how does the density of the atmosphere effect light? like i said, i don't know shit about physics.
John Russell
Fun fact: If you were to build a flat earth, and then let gravity do it's work, it would turn into a globe really fast.
Benjamin Gonzalez
ThEn GraVitY IsNT ReaL!11!
Josiah Bell
Denser air has a higher refractive index. It's the same reason you can see the sky mirrored above a hot road.
Cooper Cooper
What the fuck difference does it make if it's flat or not? We live in a computer simulation. This has already happened so many times before. You think our species out wits AI and leaves the planet with out it the first time around? Truth is know one will know the truth and even if they did there is no way to prove anything in a way that would make any impact. If you think you can control or change anything youre an idiot.
Liam Davis
Hence the dislike of flat earthers for Mr. Cavendish.
Jacob Taylor
>Why do we have nighttime? Well, user, the earth is a ball and sometimes we're facing away from the sun, and light doesn't travel so great through opaque physical objects that have a circumference of 30 goddamn thousand kilometres.
Jack Adams
>Truth is, know one will know.
Luke Cooper
isn't the air coming off a hot road less dense than normal air though? hot air rises, less density. proof: hot air balloons.
Angel Reyes
Some scientists believe the whole universe only has 2 dimensions.
In that case, earth really is flat.
Jeremiah Russell
You forgot the lumens part. 93lumens @ 1050watt per sq meter.
A 60 watt incandescent light bulb puts out 10lumens @ 60w at 8 feet by the time it reaches the floor. At 2.33 inches across by 8 feet it's visable everywhere. In your livingroom. Light can't pass through solids but it passes around them. Go into another room, that light you see is refraction.
Counting refraction calculating that like you forgot. Ball earthers forget lumens in their math treating light like a solid. Ball earthers forget light refraction when they calculate size. Skip functions?
Daniel Morales
It's really big. Bigger than they're telling you.
Kayden Jackson
There's a lumen inside your head.
Elijah Parker
That light has a medium. Light from the sun does not. It only refracts once it hits the atmosphere.
Easton Torres
Then why do we have night time? Wouldn't the light bend at 93 lumens per sq km @ 1050 watts? We would have a forever day by your own logic kitten.
Daniel Rodriguez
>Clouds and steam!!! Density you mook. The air is more dense than the steam/clouds so they rise to the top.
Oil is less dense than water. Go pour vegetable oil in a glass of water, watch it rise to the top.. is this "GRAVITY DEFYING!!" to you? No, it's not... Water is more dense, the oil sits on top, but stops there because the air in your room is less dense than the oil.
Same with steam and clouds.
Jason Morales
While the general consensus and the math suggest there are 11 dimensions. So. Take that.
Camden Lee
Buoyancy is a reaction force. What force does it react to?
Jose Hernandez
But it does.
Hence the moon turns red during a total eclipse. It just doesn't make it all the way araound.
James Lewis
problem is string theory has not made an experimentally testable prediction to this day
Nicholas Smith
Legit starting to wonder if everyone who unironically believes this is schizophrenic.. it's the only explanation left.
Blake Sanchez
But light refracts through a lens. Derpina.
Juan Baker
Only 11?
String theory is dead btw.
Aaron Morris
Exactly. You're on the right track. Once light hits a refractionary surface, it spreads. There would be no night with a sun the size of the common ball earthers ego. I'm not sure people realize how powerful 93lumens @ 1050w per sq km really is.
Jeremiah Watson
I liked the part where you addressed my belief about what we can learn about space when literally all I said was "the government gets the money back, jobs are created, and we all get cool shit like gps"
We can learn a motherfucktonne from space, by the way, and we can argue about that separately, but this entire point was about economy.
Anthony Price
And it tends to stop when it gets absorbed by something.
Isaiah Wright
Right.. I got a question for you. What keeps us stuck to the ground?
Nicholas Cook
I'm not sure you realise how off your calculations ALL were. But never mind.
so you are saying the earth pulls us down because it is heavier than us?
followup question, if the center of said "flat earth" is at the center of the disc, how come people that live on the "edge of the world" are only being pulled downwards, not inwards?
Brody Parker
When light hits a refractionary medium it's angle of direction changes, it does not "spread". If something reflects the light then some of it will be bounced off, but since most of the Earth is made up of opaque substances that absorb different wavelengths of light it will gradually be removed from propagating.
Connor Robinson
Not very fair to legitimate schizophrenics
The are people who really truly believe this shit though
Kayden Gonzalez
The earth accelerates through space constantly at 1g or something. Yes I've heard this argument used unironically. It went away really fast. I think how quickly we'd pass the speed of light and break the universe ended it.
Cameron Sanders
Clearly BS.
Your MOM causes earthquakes.
Lincoln Hughes
Yep, that's how a shadow works
Anthony Turner
So then it doesn't really matter if the ground is sticky cause what goes up must go down (no JEW math needed eh)
Julian Walker
Flat Earth. It's got what plants crave.
Easton King
Damn,I thought that was just because my kids are messy
Matthew Green
I don't even understand what the meme you're replying to is trying to say.
Ryder Gray
exactly. you can always beat any down flat earth argument by both the gravity we experience on earth and the center of mass of the earth, unless they want to disprove both the earths curvature AND the speed of light in which case they are too far gone to even try and argue with
Jeremiah Phillips
97650 m2kg cd / s3 is pretty fucking powerful mate, now multiply that by 6371 earth's size, then multiply that by 330,000, sun's relative size and that's their "sun" we wouldn't have night time due to the 1.00029 refraction rate of air not counting water vapor.
Flat earth model makes way more sense with simple mathematics. Ball earth would fry even at their model. The oceans would flash boil at their rate. I'm not denying the power of the sun, it's obviously hot and bright, but it's a lot smaller and closer than they're telling you otherwise we would not even have winter. We'd be dead.
Wyatt Gonzalez
>so you are saying the earth pulls us down because it is heavier than us?
Earth would still pull us down if it was really light. But only a little.
>followup question, if the center of said "flat earth" is at the center of the disc, how come people that live on the "edge of the world" are only being pulled downwards, not inwards?
You got that right, congrats. People near the equator would be forced to walk at quite an angle. Also all the water and air would pool near the centre.
Jordan Gutierrez
Didn't one guy buy a plane gyroscope and dit all sorts of tests with it. basicly proving that when he was standing still for an hour the earth would have turned 15 degrees or something
Charles Scott
Did you run out of dried frog pills again?
Oh dear.
Ayden Wood
>it'd take a little less than a year to reach c at 1 g acceleration
Jonathan Williams
It's the entire "the entire world government is making this ridiculous conspiracy that somehow controls us" thinking... It's so far off track and paranoid that it lines up with schizophrenic beliefs.
Jack Cooper
So we're just ignoring any properties of the atmosphere now?
Andrew Gutierrez
Blacks don't even grasp the concept that the earth is a thing in itself
James Taylor
About 10 months IIRC.
Seems not like much until you actually try to do it.
Nathan Collins
Would it? Cool. I knew it was fast but I never did the math.
Colton Evans
Correlation is not causation.
Also the belief that the government is doing it is an explanation, the root of the belief is personal observation not conspiracy.
Elijah Roberts
Faster than I expected too.
Maybe every "night" it flips over and decelerates at 1g for 12 hours.
Jason White
Technically were pulling the earth, too. Every bit of mass in the entire universe is pulling all others. Your body itself is pulling dust on Mars right now even (and they're pulling you). Mass and distance decides who wins.
Massive objects drag space time or something is how gravity works.
I'm a layman. But it's cool fucking stuff.
Leo Reed
Most ball earthers do. Their math doesn't add up. Seriously open a calculator, use their numbers, do their math. It's hilariously off. Most people see big numbers and scare easily shaking their head agreeably as it's all big and they must be right. I'm not so easily dissuaded. Even if the earth isn't flat, let's just say it is a ball, by their own meta numbers, the earth is at least 4-5x the size they're telling you. It's a scam to keep you satisfied, scared of global warming. Even though they can control the weather, they're afraid of climate change? Stop being afraid. Wake up. Time to change perspective. You're more important than you even realize.
Lincoln Lee
A 1kg weight is pulling at the earth with 1kg of force.
That's the beauty of it.
Cooper Bennett
Nailed it.
By the way, did you notice in your joke that this would totally work and "gravity" would still hold us down with the decelleration if at night we were on the opposite side of something that.... Rotates?
Ian Harris
Lol that's what the ball earthers believe. We'd fly off if it were spinning as fast as they claim.
Hunter Walker
Nonono, see, people at the edge would be pulled at an angle, but the ground under then is tilted so it still seems like it is straight down.
Chase Scott
One day I was sitting on a plane on the runway at Dallas airport. I watched the sun go down completely. Then we took off and the sun reappeared. How the fuck does that work on a flat earth?
Jace Williams
>Even if the earth isn't flat, let's just say it is a ball, by their own meta numbers, the earth is at least 4-5x the size they're telling you. I have a calculator and an engineering degree. Lay those numbers on me please, I'm ready to be woke.
Mason Gray
But 97650 m2kg cd / s3 is about 1.21 gigawatts!
You're gonna see some serious shit.
Kevin Sullivan
Let's see. If the ground gets more tilted the further we go, we'll end up with a ... sphere!
Zachary Rivera
This is one of my favorites. I'm now a planet, and on my planet, earth weighs ~160 lbs. Also, I'm not flat. QED
Luis Torres
So if the water falls off of the edge, why do we still have water?
Parker Nelson
97650 m2kg cd / s3 * 6371 * 330,000 and you have the output of their sun model. That's a lot of power.
Grayson Phillips
Wells. You can observe them in nature with your own eyes.
Owen Martinez
THE EARTH IS A CUBE YOU AUTISTIC JEWISH NIGGER ARYAN CUCKOLDED CHAD FAGGOT.
>That's a lot of power. Are you scared of the big numbers?
Jose Hernandez
And there's infinite amount of water in them or something?
Austin Williams
I don't really understand your question, but the steam displaces the surrounding air, and this displacement it what causes the buoyant force, same as any fluid.
Kevin Thompson
OP, you have done well. Trolled everyone here.
Sebastian Moore
A totally random number of atoms some french guy pulled out of his ass.
Brayden Mitchell
Maybe wells are the water circling back around? Because of fairy magics?
Samuel Rodriguez
Yes, a guy tried to prove that a spherical earth doesn't rotate. When his set up showed that it does rotate at exactly the rate you'd expect from a spherical earth, he decided that there must be some hidden physics causing it. Fucking knob
Tyler Kelly
Good thing it's sho far away.
Brayden Cruz
No just realistic and i live in reality.
Caleb Gutierrez
Seems reasonable. We'd have run out otherwise.
Brody Perry
One revolution per day is too convenient.
Colton Collins
The metric system is rooted in science and natural forces, bruv... There is nothing ass pulling about it. They made it during their enlightenment period when they embraced the scientific method.
Jackson Gomez
So it's a lot of power, you live in reality. How does that make the earth flat again?
Carson Roberts
Yeah he was in the flat Earth documentary. You can watch their reaction to it doing exactly what a round earth would make it do.
Jace Lopez
It's not far enough away though by their numbers.
Kevin Thomas
The kg is a totally arbitrary amount of mass.
And yes, I'm being stupid on purpose.
Jason Rodriguez
Can you provide these numbers?
In addition, Occam's Razor would direct us to throw away your theory of flat Earth and a conspiracy to hide it. A lot more assumptions and hand waving than the spherical Earth model.
Ayden Ross
Fuck Republicans. Im sick of conservatives keeping flat earth out of the public eye. Its bullshit. I can't exit for Trump to get out of office so fucking bad
Joseph Thomas
I always laugh about the guy building his own space plane and the other flat earthers getting all bent because the curvature of his helmet might distort shit to look curved. He's like don't you think I'd fucking check that before taking off?
Charles Cooper
Good meme
Liam Lewis
It's almost like it's a giant ball of flaming gas so hot you could literally feel the heat if you went outside and stood under it.
But numbers, yes, give me the numbers that make it too hot so I can verify for myself.
Hudson Morgan
He's really going to get impeached this time
Jose Cox
Yeah of only there were some phenomenon that bent spacetime to have us fall towards large masses. Well shucks.
Caleb Cooper
same force that makes your fat ass not fall through the floor
Wyatt Reed
If you're talking about the guy I think you're talking about, I heard he actually just wanted to go to space and needed a permit to do his project and one of the application questions was "what is the purpose" and he just wrote to prove the earth is flat and ran with it.. He's a huge troll basically.
I thought something was fishy to start. Someone with enough education to build a space plane doesn't know the earth is round?
Pretty sure he would have been a pilot in the first place and navigation depends a lot on a spherical earth.
Liam Nelson
so republicans are hiding flat earth and democrats believe in a flat earth?
Asher Powell
I have several times in this very thread. People still ignore them and me so i give up. Can't argue with a fool. The information is here if you wanna run the numbers. Their numbers don't add up.
But here they are again.
97650 m2kg cd / s3 * 6371 * 330000 / 1.9m
You'd fry. Oceans would flash boil. Air would cease to be a thing.
Aiden Ortiz
If it were gas it would have burned out by their numbers. Go burn some gas, tell me how long it lasts.
Tyler Collins
Someone needs to convince Trump that a flat earth doesn't get global warming. He'd join the flat earthers instantly.
Elijah Anderson
Im a Democrat. Im pro science. Bible thumping republitards think the earth is a globe because God and no one asks questions. Sanders would fund this. He would tell people about it
Joseph Flores
no, jews hide flat earth to stop the nazis from going to space and...wait
Daniel Sanders
It's made of coal actually. Coal lasts a long time.
Brayden Wilson
it lasts about 6 million people long
Liam Ortiz
Good thing it's plasma.
Evan Scott
So first it's gas then it's plasma, get your story straight ball earther
Brody Hill
Exactly, isn't it a bit too much of a coincidence that this "round" earth turns round once in exactly 24hrs. Why not 24.2hrs? Checkmate
Liam Baker
I am sorry but what do these random numbers mean? Can you define your constants here?
Kevin Diaz
Yeah no. That doesn't add up. When you factor in dissipation and the fact that we have a magnetic field working to deflect the worst of it, no. No flash boiling.
Any other things you'd like to try and oversimplify by ignoring demonstrable natural phenomena.
Jackson Russell
I am not the previous person you were talking with.
Do you deny the sun is made of plasma? Can you describe what plasma is succinctly?
