Who was the better president?

Who was the better president?

There is some valid debate.

But who is a better person?

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Trump is crazy but for the most part honest.

Obama was a sneaky bastard who did more war crimes than Bush Jr, but controlled the media and reporters enough to not have anything stick.

Y’all motherfuckers forgot about Taft

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This has to be the most autistic thing I've seen on this site so far and that's saying something

TOP KEK

>Bomb the shit outta many countries, more than likely killing more children than any other president
>Grab em by the pussy
Hmmmmmm

Trump is betur because nigger

Obama... He was a little wimpy for my taste, but he's a good man and got some good stuff done. He revitalized the economy to the point where it continues to grow, despite all of Trump's efforts to destroy it.
Sadly, I think Trump may be the last president. I'm not sure how much longer this country will survive.

Obama

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Obama’s sneaky shit like his executive order publishing the civilian casualties of drone strikes
as opposed to heroic trump revoking said order

O Bozo was gay

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Who the fuck wants a good person to be president?

"w-we have decided to give our homes to the Chinese a-as a gesture of good will . . ."

Have you tried Stand-Up I thought you were hilarious with that Trump Obama joke.

And Trump has a shrimp dick...what's your point.

They're both lame duck presidents, but Obama never put those wall street motherfuckers to jail like they deserved to because of 2008, so by default he is worst. What's the worst thing Trump has ever done? put some farmers on welfare like a bunch of niggers because they can't sell soybeans to China now. it's no contest.

Nah that was Michelle before the sex change..

Trump Honest? OH GOD, I needed a good laugh today!!!

How does that relate to anything

stop being so melodramatic you faggot leftist cuck, everything evil the left said would happen under trump has not happened. not even close. almost all of the great stuff the right said would happen has happened.

sad that trump got rid of publicly reporting the civilians killed by drone strikes, at least obama was transparent about it.

>war crimes
Exterminating sand niggers is not a war crime.

Exactly

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There's some truth in this. Honest is a bit of a stretch with Trump, it's more like he's using the methods Obama did but rather for the betterment of America instead of against it. Objectively I see Trump as the better president because he's routing out corruption even at the expense of his own organization and administration. Trump's father was a shrewd bastard and no different than the people Trump is currently combating globally, that could explain why there are corrupt assets still sparsely distributed throughout his connections. You don't get to higher status in life without getting dirty but no he's in a position where he can safely remove those elements without the higher risk to his family. Trump used to collect money for his father back in the 80s like a knee-breaking loan-shark lackey, he knows the bad side of things in business. Obama was groomed for presidency and shady figures made it possible, now many of those shady figures are dead, like the lady who drew-up Obama's birth certificate. The lady survived a plane crash, only to be pulled down and drowned by scuba-diver, it was completely visible in the video footage. That happened during Obama's presidency as well but there was a media blackout on the footage and it was never allowed to be investigated further by his administration. It will be good when we can strike ALL of Obama's policies and presidential actions from the world's records as invalid, since he was not an American citizen. That day will come before Trump leaves office in 2024.

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Trump is a career money launderer and admitted rapist who is systematically dismantling the checks and balances that used to keep America safe...

Obama likes spicy mustard on hotdogs

Not really a contest, unless you've been drinking alt-right koolaid

hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...honest......hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh

I love seeing these conspiracy theorist try to excuse treason...

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Spying on American citizens IS. Especially when you promised during your campaign to stop our government from unlawful spying and instead used those very assets to spy unlawfully.

What are you referring to?

Watch the movie Snowden

Snowden is a traitor but not for blowing the whistle on 3-letter faggotry. He's a traitor for selling our that same tech to China and Russia.

*out

>Especially when you promised during your campaign to stop our government from unlawful spying
got some sauce on that?

Bil Clinton waad the 1st black president. Obama was the 1st nigger president.

Look it up, this is old as hell news.

>Trump is crazy but for the most part honest.

Does Trump ever actually tell the truth? About anything? I'm being serious, he seems to like like he's breathing.

Here's one vid.
>youtube.com/watch?v=B6fnfVJzZT4

jeh

You have No sense of humor

the nig

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i love the self assurance of the flat earthers when they share their brain damage with the world. Reminds me of my youngest daughter when she tells me how proud she is after a poop.

the "obama is gay and Michelle is a man" crowd are also adorable. all the effort trying to prove something that nobody relevant would even care about now it it were. It would be like trying to prove Reagan was Catholic or something. Fucking hilarious.

>transparently drone striking children
>not fucking drone striking children
dumbass

Flat earthers are retarded but Obama being a foreign national isn't a myth.

Nobody wants a pussy for a president, being a good person doesn't equal a pushover.

I want Hank Hill as president. An honest and consistent man of the people, who is driven by to do what he believes is right by his principles, but is willing to admit his mistakes and learn from them. You guys voted for some guido styled mr burns.

only if you believe some weird dual citizenship mumbo jumbo based on his time in indonesia. he was born in hawaii. case closed. and furthermore, who the flying fuck cares where he was born unless they have an agenda.

Did you miss his entire presidency? The agenda was pretty obvious with how America became such shit under his guidance.

oh yah. brutal. longest strong of private job growth in american history (still going). ended worst recession since the 30's. what a fucking disaster.

>Honest
lol nigger, you could have said anything else about Trump and I'd have been with you. He's funny, entertaining, makes up for what he doesn't know about, really anything, with rattling the fucking Dems cages constantly. That's great. But honesty is the dead last thing I'd bring up with him. The rate he's knowingly misrepresenting numbers and stating incorrect and antifactual statements is actually exponentially greater than any other president in history, tallied by computer and totalled for comparison. Obama was no saint either, and there were some pretty bad presidents in the pre-information age, but Trump is operating on a rate more than 10x anyone since Reagan, and that's even giving him the benefit of eliminating repetitions, which he does a lot. So when he makes up a number on the spot in a rally, and then repeats it 12-17 times, different ways in a single rally, that's still only counted once.

Which of you polfags kept the link to the database. I didn't, and now wish i would have. Anyway you can find it. His honesty is why no one he works with trusts him.

Companies are leaving the US in droves. He put all the farmers on welfare, and the strong Obama economy he inherited is heading off a cliff. Murder is up, he put the growth and recruitment of ISIS on steroids, and he's creating a new generation of terrorists on our continent by abusing the refugees.

I see your hank hill and raise you one Barry Goldwater. Rise again, south. I want to see that race war, religious war, turn into all out civil war, and then get swamped by chinese bioweapons. Make it happen in my lifetime you boring fucks.

NOOO!The recession stop because god told the people that Trump was coming, not bacause of that muslim monkey

Are we counting Chinese jobs as our own now? Holy shit lmao.

I like how he managed to worsen the fucking refugee problem into a full blown crisis in order to make his point, and then failed utterly to do anything of substance about any part of it.

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lol sucker

Both consistently do/did the opposite of what they say. Both are lionised by their cult of followers and sow endless division. Both are following the 'meme president' theme and are not leaders. Both are exactly the same thing, terrible.

fucking morons.

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“Holy Shit, I can’t belive they voted for him. He’s the biggest idiot I’ve ever known”

Sean Hannity talking about Donald Trump off air election night 2016

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Oh look, he's citing the auto industry bailout that dropped our ENTIRE NATION'S credit rating. Fucking retard, kek.

oh shit, he permanently protected american jobs while turning a national profit on the loan? jesus fucking christ LYNCH THE NIGGER!!!

Ask Joan Rivers

Do you not understand the concept of credit? What he did was take out a WORSE loan to pay off another, which we practically defaulted on because we couldn't pay it.

I wonder when the soybean farmers will be repaying their over 20 billion in bailout for a disaster literally caused by Trump himself?

Well, I would put accumulating more debt than all other presidents COMBINED not a very good legacy. Obama was one of the worst ever.

This is stupid

Obama turned this country in the right direction, toward the most prosperous era ever, and Trump came along and said, "fuck America - I'm gonna burn it to the ground!" Trump and his supporters hate America and Americans.

keep hammering away at it faggot. im sure theres an army of dead comics who give a fuck about your mental disorders.

I had high hopes for O but he failed me. Now T is trying to clean up his mess

>who is a better person

they are both pieces of shit,but id say obama since he was honest about his political beliefs.trump trys to pretend like he's a republican but has brought his big city liberal bullshit to the white house

Trump is at fault for businesses not buying crops out of spite for the current administration? Ones that previously bought steadily under Obama? I'd say it's convenient timing to say the least.

>valid debate

LOL,i mean.first of all,i think both presidents were shit.but there's no valid debate when it comes to comparing a president that most of his supporters only cared about "muh president is black"compared to a handful of redneck morons who think a billionare idiot can relate to the common man

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"trade wars are easy to win", faggot. say it! you know you want to! I'm sure victory is just a few more crops away.

Trump is a man of great Achomilishments.
Covfefe?

Seriously, is he retarded or just dyslexic, but too narcissistic to admit it?

Imagine putting your faith in this clown.
More fool you

Then again. Literacy rates in the US are some of the worst in the developed world, so most Ameritards wouldn’t even notice

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Are you as dumb as Trump? The soybean consumers are not buying American soybeans because they are crazy expensive because of Trump & She She Ping's tarrifs. Not out of spite, you fucking retard. Is this Don Jr. I'm responding to?

They are both shit. Any of you dumbasses who worship politicians need to wake up. Politics is a filthy game and anyone who has risen up to the position of leadership within the system is, without a doubt, a piece of shit.

The very nature of politics requires you to fuck over some people while helping others at their expense. It's a balancing act. You're attempting to please as many people as possible over a period of time. Yesterday's allies are today's enemies. This is why every politician flip-flops, republican and democrat alike.

Independents and third parties may be the only exceptions, to an extent. This is why they measure their success in House seats while the two main parties measure theirs in Presidents and executive cabinet members.

TLDR; y'all be dummies, succin on obama's and trump's dicks.

It’s worse than you think.
“The organisation for economic cooperation and development found that 50% of US adults can’t read a book written at an eighth-grade level”

This pretty much explains the era of trump.
Illiterate morons who’s only grasp of reality is from Facebook memes and chain-emails, voted overwhelmingly for trump - after a concentrated Facebook meme /chain-email campaign.

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> But Trump knows more about the military than generals, despite dodging Nam and never serving. And hes smarter than scientists, but looks directly at an eclipse and thinks windmill sound gives cancer. Hes a great businessman but failed to make money with a casino. Hes a good christian despite being married 3 times and cheating on all of his wives.

Shhhh
The right wing are only able to see hypocrisy in the left.
They are incapable of introspection.
You are wasting your time

I've always dreamed of having a president so self assured that the military puts tarps over the names on their boats in case the President get's triggered by them overseas. It's a dream come true. More of this please.

If u can get even one person to think critically, its a win imo.

>Who was the better president?

Trick question. They're both awful.

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>If u can get even one person to think critically, its a win imo.

That's stupid.

>>not fucking drone striking children
well you better just try and try and hide it then, sounds like the best option

Tl:dr

> lol you all are stupid and I am smart wake up sheeple

How about you fuck off Mr. smug basement anarchist.

The tariffs are necessary to recoup losses.

No way to do an honest comparison. One was doggedly hunted by the media for the smallest thing and the other was given a free pass. Right wing dogged him about his birth but media came to his defense and pretty much left him alone on personal life. Family could have been doing incestuous orgies for all we know. At least with Trump everything's been exposed so as bad as it is, its as bad as it gets.

Obama droned the shit out of the Pakis, flew missions in to Pakistan, killed Osama, blew more shit up and got away with it. Got to love him for that.

The new babylon is falling, I really do not see the point wasting my precious last 5 years debating useless bullshit. Christ comes soon, y'all have about 5 years left give or take a couple weeks. Repent or don't your choice. I will not try to shove my "diatribe" onto you, if you have chosen, move along I suppose.

tl;dr OP is a delusional fag

It's being made out by most media to be worse than it is. If Obama hadn't sold off the government's rights to the internet and placed into the hands of ICANN, a California liberal company, on top of making propaganda legal again, we probably wouldn't be dealing with this.

Trump/Obama 2020

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How does that work when its American consumers who bear the cost of the tariffs?

both are shitty people

Trump is the better President

>was
1 of them still is president

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Wait what
Proof

‘The organisation for economic cooperation and development’ is a Jewish organisation designed to lower the moral of the US

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>But who is a better person?

If you consider the quality of "love of nation", it would seem that Obama loses.

Obama is a better person if you consider Saul Alinsky a great mentor who's sole purpose was to sucker people into never-ending strife. Marx was a good guy compared to ole Saul. Now, where does that leave Obama?

In hell.

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Der Black Man Bad

A little bit of column a, a little bit of column b

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A+B=B
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obama was better,because after the nigger in chief's 8 year long war against gun rights.we had still our 2nd ammendment in tact,now its down the toilet because republicans decided to care about the scary brown people coming through our southern border then 2019 years of gun rights