Tell me why you aren't using kratom?
Tell me why you aren't using kratom?
Because I got pot.
i didn’t know it existed and don’t like injecting stuff into my foreskin
While 7-HMG might be the main opioid-like substance in kratom that causes euphoria and addiction, it is likely not the only one. Not only is kratom addictive and can lead to its own set of withdrawal symptoms, but kratom is also known to cause several severe side effects.
Because I'm Christian and thus a good person.
Is faggotitis among them?
This + my booze and smokes. All I need.
Kratom withdrawals are mild. Even using 10+ grams for over a year will be relatively easy to get off of if you have any experience of coming off of alcohol/benzos/cocaine/opioids.
I did for a couple years. Love the stuff. Works amazing on joint pain from Lifting. I only stopped because it fucks with my erections, makes it hard to reach climax, and costs more then I'd like to spend. My gf still takes 5 or so grams every night. I was taking 8 grams a night give or take.
Why not pot and weed? I fucking hate pot users that use nothing but pot, it annoys the fuck outta me, like there are other drugs out there you know?
* pot and kratom
Pot isnt anything like kratom. Pot doesnt relax me anyway. Makes me uptight even if I attempt to just relax. It also gives me anxiety. Kratom actually relaxes me and, I feel great mentally.
Wrong
I know for a fact kratom has zero withdrawal effects. I took 8 grams every single night for 2 years. Didnt miss a single night. Then I just stopped taking it cold Turkey. Didnt have any withdrawal at all. Caffeine gives more withdrawal then kratom does.
I have a hard time coming off of vaping, okay, so I'll just stick with pot. Bongs are the best.
Tell me why it annoys you that pot purist exist. There's a reason why it's gotten legalized and decriminalized. It's safe, it's healthy, and it's harmless, compared to alcohol and/or tobacco.
The anecdotal experiences of drug users are exactly as valuable as socially productive people believe them to be.
Lucky 7’s checked.
Probably, I mean even shrooms can be used in therapeutic ways. Just taking steroids doesn't make you stronger either. How you take them and with mood sensitive drugs like pot it can change based on your mental state.
Pot is not a sedative, but it works like a sedative without the drowsiness. I honestly think MDMA is the best, but I know with my depression and anxiety that regular daily use of a small amount of pot can be beneficial.
Ripping a bong while drinking after a long day in the sun at the beach doesn't always go over the best either, but I can say it wouldn't kill you.
Because pot isn't a solution to everything. Benzos are more reliable for anxiety than weed, kratom is better for pain than weed. Weed is great recreationally but isn't very useful for ailments or mental conditions.
kratom didn't do shit for me but induce a lot of vomiting
um, what was your dose, and how many strains did you try? Kratom has been shown to very effective for pain and does cause a mild opioid high.
I am for my chronic abdominal pain. It works pretty well. Not as well as opiates but pretty damn well. It's definitely addictive physically and mentally though. I take around 8 grams a day.
Cannabis has been proven to be extremely safe and poses very little risk to those who consume it. Studies have shown that cannabis sustains anti anxiety effects and may work in similar ways to some prescribed drugs. On the other hand, benzodiazepines have a long list of negative side effects that make them a less beneficial option for the body.
I've never heard of kratom before, but cannabis grows anywhere. It seems like Kratom is a south asian plant.
this!!
My god my last quit was torture for 3 weeks
so glad im done with this shit, used for 3 years
The most common side effects of kratom are the same as those of opioids. They include stomach pains, vomiting, itching, nausea, dry mouth, and lack of appetite. However, the risk of encountering these side effects is much lower than with other opioids. It has also been blamed for causing other, more serious issues such as seizures, arrhythmia, liver damage, and psychosis. However, documentation and thorough investigation of kratom’s role in these conditions is rare.
I spend all my money on jenkem, someone help I have a problem!
I don't need any of those things.
because weed is a thing and i live 5 minutes from the dutch border
Because it's expensive here
This
>It's safe, it's healthy, and it's harmless
It is none of the above you fucking retard
Benzos are much better than weed dude
Because Kava is better. No shitty withdrawals.
>compared to alcohol and/or tobacco
can you read the whole sentence, nigger?
But kratom feels better and the withdrawals are pathetic compared to other opioids
>ITT manchildren who still can not calm down their minds without a pacifier
Who said we want to calm our minds faggot?
quick take some drugs kid, you're getting angry again
Try some cbd before you smoke, or just on it's own
I just did a bong hit and I'm feeling pretty good
kratom is great, been taking it for years. Cured my depression and helps with chronic pain. I take very little, only a half gram of green kratom up to three times a day.
cheap as shit online. You can get a kilo for 80 bucks.
Not mad at all dude, i still love you
Because it tastes like shit (Capsules are way more expensive than powder), the high was like a mild opiate that made me way too sleepy for the amount of euphoria, it's not regulated well and they keep finding heavy metals in it, it just wasn't worth it. I tried like 6 different strains but, like weed, I didn't notice much of a difference between them in terms of effectiveness
not everyone is a pot head. Weed is fun when you're 15, but some of us grownups have work to do.
haha funny daniel tosh
Because
1. I have no reason to use kratom
2. kratom has a shitload of unhealthy side-effects and will fuck you up, no matter how much you lie and shill on Yea Forums
>capsules are more expensive
you can get a pill machine for 25 bucks. make your own capsules if you're a pussy about the taste.
I personally love the taste, put mix it with green juice and love the fuck out of it.
Never heard of it.
Because it's yokel opioids that stops you shitting normally, shill
Who cares about side effects if you want to die?
It gives me bad nausea, but I still use it from time to time. Usually have to take a gravol or ginger if I'm taking more than 2g at a time.
8 grams is a very small amount
>unhealthy side effects
Not really. Unless you take autistically large doses. It's about as safe as coffee. (coffee will also fuck you up if you take huge doses)
In fact I'm a big coffee drinker and I get more side effects from coffee than I do from kratom.
This is wrong. I had my best and healthiest shits on kratom and no constipation like on real opioids
it actually makes me shit. When i get up and have kratom it make me shit almost instantly like coffee does.
Kratom is okay, but I drink a LOT and I noticed when I was using both for a week straight it made me feel bad
8 grams is a huge amount. I've never gone over 4 grams. even 4 grams with some strains gives me wobbles. I went down to 2 grams to be safe and noticed the same benefit.
More recently I dropped down to 1 gram twice a day and it does what I need it to do. Anyone taking 8 grams is a fucking psycho.
alcohol will make you feel bad no matter what.
Adam are you in this thread? It's Evan
When I want to nod out, I take 20 grams and 60 min later another 5-10.
It's actually the safer alternative to a lot of drugs that it helps treat medically. The facts are out. There is options, not everyone is the same. CBD alone with no THC is even an option.
They may be better but weed is still a better drug, as defined by the word.
what are the severe side effects?