Flat Earth Discussion Thread

on one hand, i want to believe, and on the other hand it seems so outlandish that I just can't take it seriously.

Lol you’re retarded

Kek, gave me a nice chuckle, tnx for that user

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So did like a Jewish guy fuck your mom and make you watch, or something? What's with the weird obsession?

This is gold. XD
How about the other space agencies? (Flatbros are so comically US-centeted)
what's the codename of their respective hoax-astronaut recovery vehicles?
Please, tell you know them. I'm dying to know.

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>the modern philosophical movement is nihilism

>flat earth is apex nihlism

The TL;DR
>Bruh earth looks flat look at it

If earth is flat why they try so hard to cover this lie?

The Earth USED to be flat, but when the Atlanteans sailed to the edge to challenge God, He sunk their island, took the corners of the world, and bent them around to meet each other to keep it from ever happening again, so NOW the world is round.

Buy a couple of these, attach go pro, fill with helium and let it fly, post pics.

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That’d be a good movie

So your telling me in a world where no one can get along, that all the countries in the world can agree to keep up a round world conspiracy??

For years I thought the flat earth movement was just a cyber joke every one loved to propagate just for kicks and giggles. The fact that there are people out there , supporting this movement -is beyond retarded.

The Earth is NOT flat you fucking idiot.

Even though the only realistic flat earth scenario would arise from alien 'zoo-ification' of the planet, flat earthers refuse even this possible explanation.
It would, after all, demonstrate planets are spheres and the laws of physics we understand are concrete.

But FE'ers cannot follow this logic, since it involves acknowledging known physics of the Newtonian variety is true.

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ITT: op thinks he has beaten the government boogeyman but just is a faggot as usual

China would tell the world

90% chance this gay bait but here goes.

Go on a plane. Just, do it dude, bottoms of clouds aren't flat it's just ur perspective. İf u really think the Earth is flat then calculate the circumference of the earth using the shadows from city's a couple miles apart (same time ofc) then you will see the Earth is round. Fun fact: the niggas from the b.c. used this shit

Here's a thought: Recent breakthroughs in quantum physics research are leaning heavily towards the universe being a holographic projection from a 2D source far outside of the visible universe.. That out 3rd axis of direction is an illusion of sorts. An illusion we answer to here, but not where we actually are on the 2D projection source..

So, according to current scientific understanding, both globe and flat earthers are correct..

Now what?

Flat earth is boring op, tell me about aliens at the South Pole.

uhh, no.
You're oversimplifying to a traumatic extent.
Use a fraction of the available lexicon on related facets of quantum mechanics and we'll talk.

Imagine starting a flat earth thread and getting it saged, then restarting another flat earth thread in the hope that you find another retard on Yea Forums who agrees with your bullshit.

Also that's not how quantum physics works. Go back to your jizz-covered basement.

Have you actually been on a ship in deep water? When you see other vessels coming from beyod the horizon you see the tips of the mast and then slowly it becomes visible from the top down. This is basic fucking logic that you can't see beyond the curvature of the Earth which is a lot more than 6 fucking miles.

If a curved hallway is long enough and curved slightly enough you won't notice because it's beyond human perception. The Large Hadron Collider is an example of this, it's a 16.6 mile tunnel that goes in a circle and when you're in it you can't tell that it's curved because that's how slight the curve is.

TL;DR you're a moronic faggot, go rope yourself.

It’s nice of the dome to let those asteroids and meteorites though, the dinosaurs really appreciated that..

What is fake new math? How do you claim it is derived from science when you denounce scientific method?

Atmospheric refraction, yo.

Yea you're mistaking a theory for a fucking fact. *leaning heavily towards* is another way of saying it's not true but I'd like it to seem true. Either it is a fact or it isn't a fact, facts don't *lean heavily towards* no they just fucking are, they don't lean, they don't point, they just are.

Dinosaurs were killed during the Noahs Flood apocalypse.

he's never willing to discuss it, the pleb

last time it was brought up he announced he was no longer engaging the thread then came back to shill specific points.

So you have no refutation other than your child like retorts?

Must suck being 12 in today's world.

How about this theory? OP is just baiting us with blatantly wrong facts in order to stir up conversation on Yea Forums because he's bored.
Sage the thread and end it here. He'll feel worse if nobody fucking replies.

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I'm
How about you answer me asshat instead of ignoring my valid points.

probably right, then again I'm kinda bored and I want to call a flat earther a moronic faggot.

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>here's a thought
Were you actually serious? as in, you were expecting a 'retort'?

You obviously don't understand the first thing about this topic to assume I'd have the time or will to explain the flaws in your completely stupid comparison of quantum hierarchy with linear dimensions.
Read a fucking book, pleb.

Go buy any commercial available telescope, point it at any planet and then come back a report what shape it is.

Kek!! Pretty obvious you don't science.

Most of human scientific understanding is but theory, not much is solid fact with everything totally calculated out.

For example, it's the THEORY of flight, as there is plenty of math that disproves as much as it proves our fundamental understanding of aerodynamics. All the yottabytes of data on the subject is just observational data that cannot be squared up occasionally. I've been a licensed pilot since 1995 and a R&D technician in the defense sector.

My God, you're fucking ignorant. In today's world of connectivity, you're also downright stupid.

Protip: One affliction is curable, the other a terminal diagnosis.

This argument has gotten so convoluted I can no longer tell if this guy is pro-flat earth or anti-flat earth.

I bet you switched hands fapping while you typed that and didn't miss a stroke.

You still didn't prove or disprove anything about the subject. Showing everyone your intellectual limitations doesn't count.

it's not even an argument, you fucking idiot.

He's literally restating a notion which everyone here but you already understands

>completely stupid comparison of quantum hierarchy with linear dimensions

That's a matter-of-fact statement.

You're using 'proof' as a strawman, my comment does not necessitate proof.

Yours does however. I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate you have even a tiny practical knowledge on quantum physics.

You feeble minded little squalor rodent.

Well, I see my work here is done. I miss the days of expecting someone with an actual brain would show up and successfully argue their point, ESPECIALLY if they actually held the opposite opinion.

Oh well. Maybe someday it'll be that kind of fun in here again. In the meantime, running around intellectually naked while waving my giant balls is amusing enough.

The Earth is round in our perception of our 3D universe, but it's all projected from a 2D source. If you cannot figure out what side I'm on, it's because you don't understand a mind that understands that human understanding is limited to our insufficient senses and our grunting ape narratives.

Oogga booga bitches.

>i has an idea
>10 minutes later
>this idea is now central to my belief system!
>user, signing off

good fucking riddance

poorly orchestrated psyop confirmed

So, you are declaring that all human scientific understanding along with quantum theory is now all proven and no longer is up for debate?
Oh, please enlighten us oh holy 5th dimensional traveller from the singularity.

No, more likely you're just a raving lunatic begging for some change. But who knows, maybe in your madness you stepped over the unifying theory. Or it was a turd that fell out of your gaping faggot ass.

Probability definitely favors one over the other.

You clearly don't understand burden of proof. The CLAIMANT has burden of proof, ie: you.
"my observation" is not proof, have you observed from the space station? From outside of earth? Have you done any actual scientific experimentation? No?

Nice bait, faggot.

Imagine being so bored you study this shit hardcore just to troll anons

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Buy an airplane, faggot. Fly around the fucker. Dumbass.

user, there's this thing called science. Within it, we agree on the implied meaning of words, not their explicit content. That's why we have discussions.

Use the correct terminology, not "thu sphere is a projekshun of an itty bitty point far away in too-dee"

You believe in flat earth because you don't have capacity for scientific thought.

Now you're saying I'm a raving lunatic; projecting aren't we? Didn't you already say it's past your bed time?

Still waiting for you to address refraction

>op starts thread
>1 post in, becomes a shit-talk OP thread
>op is a cuck

Tbh unless we are thanos, we have no idea if earth is for or round or cubed, or whatever shape. It's interesting to think what's out there, Apparently by 2024 NASA will start a moon colony and from there we will get more information.

You don't believe anything that happened until there are more scientists in space? How fucking dumb can a person be.

You're not very bright are you?

>how dumb can a person be?
He could believe the earth is flat

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If he disbelieves video and testimony from the space station how is something a little farther away going to change his mind? Are they going to let random faggots go to the moon? Doubt it.

2 things should be enough :
-Go and see or build a Foucault pendulum - this proves the rotation of the earth.
-conduct a simple experiment with a large bowl of water spinning at a constant rate - free surface of water is always perpendicular to the net acceleration.
In 1* we establish there needs to be a rotation to the Earth. In 2* we see that rotation caused centrifuge as perceived from within the system, would cause the water to run from the middle of the spinning disc and off the edge, which anyway would make for a concave bowl earth rather than flat or globe.
Since no bowl earth can be observed, elliptoid is the only shape for the earth

Won't the gopro break when it comes down again?

The universe is limitless, so really we don't know shit, human logic is being defied somewhere out there right now. Its not crazy to think there are flat worlds out there, but no I don't think the earth is flat.

No but the gravitation is can work so only on a gluble. You don't have flat when is glubbe and gravitation is can't work. So it gloab must.

That has nothing to do with that post.

Flat Earthers. People too stupid to be able to perform even the most rudimentary science experiments the ancient Greeks did thousand of years ago that proved the world was round.

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Its not a theory. A hypothesis at best.

Just like
>The evidence is all there
with Global Warming.

Fucking flat earth retard

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>a ruse

A ruse? Hi, it's the 1930s. Can we have our words and clothes and shitty airplane back? And, hey, watch out for that Adolf Hitler. He's a bad egg.

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Even funnier, flat earthers fucking keep proving the earth is round (like it always has been) over and over again. Its cognitive dissonance at its purest form

Reminder that flat earthers have
• No working model, or map.
• No way to determine proper distances, or directions between two point on the earth not sharing the same longitude.
• No explanation for how the sun and the moon circle the earth, or how the sun migrates from the tropic of Capricorn to the tropic of Cancer and back over the year.
• No idea why the ancient Greeks such as Pythagoras, Aristotle, Eratosthenes and Aristarchus believed the earth was a sphere.
• No idea what P and S shockwaves detected by seismology equipment tells us about the internal structure of the earth, and the shape and dimensions of the surface of the earth.
• No idea what powers the sun and the stars.
• No idea of the distance to the stars.
• Clueless as to why almost all stars don't appear to change position in the sky from opposite sides of earth's orbit around the sun when the phenomena of parallax says they should, and why we can only use the parallax method for measuring the distance of stars that are closest to the earth. Luckily, Polaris is one that we can determine the distance to using parallax, because it is also a Cepheid variable star, which allows the distance to be measured to much more distant stars where the parallax method not longer works.
• No idea of the distance from the earth to the planets, or even much about them at all.
• No idea why binary stars obey Newton's law of gravitation.
• No explanation as to why we can only see 59% of the total surface area of the moon when, from a flat earth perspective we should be able to see most of it, including the dark side of the moon.

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• No idea why the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere compared to how it looks in the northern hemisphere, and why the phases of the moon are on opposite sides of the Moon, and why it looks circular from all vantage points on the earth.
• No idea why sunspots rotate in the opposite direction in the southern and northern hemispheres, or even what sun spots are.
• No believable explanation for how GPS is implemented across the world.
• No explanation as to why aircraft carry ring laser gyros onboard capable of detecting the rotation of the earth.
• No idea how it is possible to develop gravitational maps of the earth's surface, or why anyone would want one, or how they could be used.
• No explanation for how eclipses work, especially lunar eclipses, or how to predict them correctly.
• No idea why the Humber bridge, the Verrazzano Narrows bridge are built to account for the earth's curvature.
• No idea why CERN, LIGO and the Stanford linear accelerator vacuum rings and arms are constructed to take account of the earth's curvature.
• No idea why physicists working on LIGO, the gravity wave detector, were awarded Nobel prizes in physics.
• No idea why geodetic surveyors keep claiming the earth is an oblate spheroid.
• No idea why Google Earth does not publish its underlying flat earth model that allows it to project the earth as a globe.
• No explanation as to why the sun rises due east for everyone on the earth on the equinox.
• No idea why an observer on the equator during an equinox does not see the sun set at an angle 19° above the horizon.

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• No idea why there should be a discernible horizon that looks like the edge of the ocean viewed from a beach. The horizon should really be a blur as the farther we look out across the flat earth, the more light is scattered and the more particles in the atmosphere obscuring the view.
• No idea how it is possible to see the sun set twice simply by changing your height above the earth (quickly by just a few tens of metres).
• No reasonable explanation as to how Polaris can be used in conjunction with a sextant in the northern hemisphere to determine latitude.
• No explanation as to why the Artic and Antarctic experience months of days and nights at differ times of the year.
• No explanation why bright little objects called satellites by some are regularly visible in the night sky following a predicted path across the sky
• No explanation for how tides work.
• No explanation how (most times) boats disappear over the horizon when they should be visible on a flat earth.
• No explanation as to why the horizon does not rise to eye level.
• No credible explanation why helium balloons fitted with non-fish eye cameras often detect the curvature of the earth.
• No credible explanation for the existence of the "Downward" force called gravity.
• No explanation that does not implicitly make use of the theory of gravity for the atmospheric pressure gradient from high to low pressure with altitude, especially if we live in a dome.
• No idea why (almost without exception) hurricanes and typhoons rotate in opposite directions in northern and southern hemispheres respectively.

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As an aviation professional, nothing is more laughable and debunkable to me than this flat earth nonsense.

Most retard conspiracies at least have a motive. This has nothing.

> Derrr the earth is flat because NASA lies. I seen it on YouTube

Yeah but why would they cover that up?

> Derrrrr do your research.

Only Americans could be retarded enough to believe this shot en-masse. It's some sort of psy-op either by the CIA, the Russian intelligence agencies or the Jews at Mossad. But there's no possible fucking way for the earth to be flat and anyone with an IQ over room temperature either laughs at it or pretends to buy into it to make money off those dumb enough to believe it.

• No explanation for the Coriolis effect observable in controlled experiments such as those conducted by Ascher H. Shapiro in the 1960s.
• No explanation as to why the northern celestial pole rotates counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and the southern celestial pole rotates clockwise in the southern hemisphere.
• No idea what Antarctica even looks like, and where the South Pole is physically located.
• No idea why Venus has phases. Bye bye Geocentric system.
• No idea why planets, e.g. Mars, exhibit retrograde motion. Hello Heliocentric system.
• No idea why the planets and their moons in the solar system appear to be obeying Newton's laws of planetary motion.
• No explanation whatsoever why Stellar Aberration occurs.
• No idea why clouds are illuminated from the bottom at sun set.
• Can't explain how a commercial aircraft can fly from Perth to Sydney in only 4 hours 10 mins across the flat earth, as to achieve this, it would need to fly faster than an F18 on afterburner all the way.
• No idea why the CO2 atmosphere of Mars appears to "Cling" to the exterior of its spherical spinning surface without the need for physical containment. This phenomenon is observable on others planets too.
• No idea why the sun and the moon don't change in angular size from rising to setting by a factor of 2 to 3 since they are local to the earth, and no idea why the sun according to the inverse law of radiation is not 4 to 9 times brighter at midday than at sunset and sunrise when viewed from Australia.
• No credible reason why millions of people (mostly scientists, engineers and technicians ) over decades would lie to keep the globe earth alive, and why nations and commercial enterprises, accountable to the voters and shareholders respectively, would spend (waste) $2 trillion a year , each and every year to maintain the "globe lie".

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... and so on, and so forth, the list goes on and on.

>Fuck the Jewish (((dominated))) 'scientific' community

I went to Yeshiva in Lima Peru for many years. It's not the jews who are behind the fake globe op. It's the jesuits.

From “Behind The Curve”.
The scene in a new Netflix documentary called “Behind The Curve”, which follows a group of Flat Earthers, a “small but growing contingent of people who firmly believe in a conspiracy to suppress the truth that the Eearth is flat”, is as follows:

Bob Knodel, host of a youtube channel entirely dedicated to the theory and who is one of the team relying on a $20K laser gyroscope to prove the Earth doesn’t actually rotate.
This is that part of the interview.
“What we found is, when we turned on that gyroscope, we found that we were picking up a drift” Knodel explains. “A 15-degree per hour drift… now, obviously we were taken aback by that - wow, that’s kind of a problem”.
He continues: “We obviously were not willing to accept that, and so we started looking for easy to disprove it was actually registering the motion of the earth”

(if your experiment disproves your claim, discard the proof? Hm, not how science works)

“We don’t want to blow this, you know” Knodel then says to another Flat Earther. “When you got $20K in this freaking gyro… if we dumped what we found right now, it would be bad? “It would be bad”
He then says: “What I just told you was confidential”

Reminder- all the threads which are about dividing people are posted by paid Russian shills trying to destabilise the West. Setting men against women, black against white, left against right, gay against straight. Trying to emasculate men with dick threads, trap threads, cuck threads, and gayest thing you've ever done threads.

Ignore these threads, shut down Putin's cocksuckers. Don't be fooled by division.

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Then they did a second experiment which also proved the earth was curved.

Clearly they forgot that none of their colleagues actually believe that bullshit they just want to sell tickets to conferences, speaking tours, merchandise and other bullshit.

holy shit you're an assblasted fag. how much do they pay clowns like you to copy paste your straw many desperate garbage disinfo?

go fuck yourself and die from your aids you dumb syphillic animal.

Were you dropped on your head?

What is "empirical evidence" and how does it factor into this?
Look up the term, educate yourself a bit.
Good luck user.

I don't think pointing out the stupidity of certain groups of ignorant people will destabilise anything much.
As for people being against each other isn't a new idea either, there'll always be political/philosophical/religious movements hell bent on attacking other such groups - neither listening, both shrill and loud.
A decent education would sort such silliness out.

This won't work, helium will leak out of latex too quickly. You'll have to get at least a rubber one but ideally a foil/plastic balloon.

It's also fun how they desperately attempt to ignore evidence lest they make themselves extinct as a group.

>The evidence for a flat earth is derived from many different facets of science and philosophy.

Kek

>The evidence for a flat earth is derived from many different facets of superstition and ignorance.

Fixed that for you

I'm becoming a flat earther because of you, faggot. I'd rather be completely wrong, and regarded by everyone around me as a total retard rather than being like you. I hope you are proud of yourself.

You choose stupidity and ignorance because you dislike the messenger?
But user, that's both stupid and ignorant!

You know what else is flat? Your fucking brain activity. Take your brainwashing conspiracy theories elsewhere you unholy, decrepit cromagnon.

Sage

No, not really. I'll actually probably drink another tall boy, pass out, and forget this conversation ever took place.

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Exactly, people who believe the moon landings were fake don't even believe this.

The number of people needed to keep this under wraps starts with:

* Hundreds of thousands of pilots, air traffic controllers
* Every world leader and at least their top people
* Every map maker/cartographer
* Every ship crew including military but also civilian and private shipping companies
* Every space agency of every country
* Every major news company using satellites
* Every weather organisation

etc.

But sure, they could all by lying...

But user, that's self-destruction, which is also both stupid and ignorant.
Don't do it!

Yes. You can put a parachute on it but good luck finding it when it comes down again... You're better off getting a cheapy throw-away smartphone and have a tracking app installed and a cell data connection on so it'll hopefully connect when it lands and tell you where it is.

I quit smoking meth at least. That's got to be an improvement.

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It's like the entirety of the world has organised against this group. Amazing.
That shows some global organisatory skills!

Ah well, you're young, you'll probably survive.

Let us assume it is Flat.

Is it a flat plane as they say? How far does this go?

Who contained us all in this area with a rotating sun and moon?

What forces keep the sun and moon up there rotating?

Not saying it's impossible, just unrealistic.

The only question worth asking: Why would everyone lie about it?

Convince me there's a good reason for everyone to lie about it and then we can start breaking down whether they are or not.

mate. Math doesn't bend to anyones will, you fucking faggot.

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and it makes me sad...

nah, I'd say its factual mate

Friendly reminder, flat earth is a meme. Nobody seriously believes it, it's just that the inclusion is just too much to turn away from.
They're just lonely. You can pick on them if you want but it's kind of a bummer move. Let them be flat earthers with their flat earth friends, as those are the only friends they have.

How can anyone be so stupid? It's Flat.

There is literally a video of a dude sending his go pro up into space and letting it fall back down again. Watch it u stupid illiterate monkey dont ever fukkin breed

Is math consistent though? That's a 100% serious question btw. Mathematicians would like to find the answer, because it would be pretty damn useful to know.

Math is a social construct.

It started fine but then I googled the website.

In the past I saw insane Christian nutjobs supporting flat earth because the bible said so, and evil Jesuits and their fake space science are messing with people.

Now we have insane Christian nutjobs opposing flat earth which is made up by evil Jesuits and their fake theories to mess with people.

What the actual fuck.

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Christians believe it to be round as is stated in the Bible. Jews want you to think otherwise.

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>It's some sort of psy-op either by the CIA, the Russian intelligence agencies or the Jews at Mossad.

Russkie user here. I read many times that anti-vaxxers and flat earthers are made by Russian propaganda to subvert the US/West, but we have the same problem.

This shit leaked to us from US/West after the USSR was dismantled, and people here often believe that it was purposefully introduced by evil Americans/Europeans to subvert the Rusian population.

Something is really suspicious here.

>fake jew math
Lulz

Never underestimate stupidity.

consistent yes it is a axiomatic logic that allows only tautologys to be derived from the axioms via the set of reasoning rules, complete no. See the incompleteness of axiomatic systems (gödel). But just because it is incomplete doesn't make it inconsistent.

If you're not Jewish shame on you. Unless you're uniconically using flat Earth to discredit real Jewish conspiracies you're legitimately retarded.

You don't really understand much, covering ignorance by a few big words, used wrongly will give you away.
Don't defend my position thus dragging common sense down with your poor use of language and lacking punctuation.

>is stated in the Bible.

Like the part where Satan takes Jesus on top of an unspecified mountain, and shows him the entire world? This is not possible on a spherical Earth, not even from Everest. So no, your precious bible is pro flat earth, and as everyone knows, its full of shit. Bonus: it also claims the sky is held up by four pillars, one ar each corner. Spheres don't have corners.

>fake JEW math

OP is a god damn retard

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KGB documents released after rhe fall of communism verified that they did help spread the JFK Conspiracy, but also that they didn't invent it themselves. They found the phenomenon fascinating and just ran with it.

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Right. I don't know much. Just working with logical systems on a daily basis.
Mate if the words axioms and tautologys are to big for you then I think you are not fit to hold any meaningful conversation at all.
God forbid one uses the words accurately describing the things in axiomatic system. WE NEED TO CALL EM SOMETHING DIFFERENT GOD DAMN, LIKE SHOESTRING AND BREAD.
ffs you retarded faggot just sound as stupid as all the soggy knee fucks saying niggers need to reinvent science cuz tha whhhhite man did it and its evil.
Do me and the rest of the world a favour and consider ending you existence you fucking shitstain.
>inb4 jebaited lelelel omg wtf..

Russia currently suffers the slow rise of popularity of SJWs / anti-vaxxers / flat earthers, but these mostly look like lame copies of everything that happens in the West.

I can only hope that shit will not corrupt my country in the same way it did with the rest of the world, and that the West will get rid of that some day.

The world already has enough issues as it is.

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>the world looks flat
world sure doesnt look flat to me, have you ever thought about the fact that human senses arent as good as we perceive them to be?

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to hide god you dumb cunt. the world is not ruled by banks or merchants, it's ruled by priests, clergy. the roman catholic church is and has been for some time, the primary engine of globalisation. jesuits spread copernican cosmology around the world, as well as astrological esotericism and principles of rulership that are employed today by every major country. Rothschild own all central banks in the world, they are papal court jews. Through them the vatican owns the moneyprinting houses and through that national economies as well as corporations.

Go on archive.to and search for 'jesuits' you can find countless books written between 1750 and 1850 that openly talk about this shit and even pose questions like 'what are they up to, where is this all going'. Well now we know. the one world government (new world order) is their theological agenda.

>the bottoms of clouds are flat

they most certainly are not, for example these are mammatus clouds

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If the earth is flat, who lives under the earth?

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>Bedford Level Experiment
>proof

how embarrassing for you that your b8 is so weak.

>the movement of the sun

not sure what you are trying to argue here with this, because the movement of the sun completely reflects the fact that the sun is:
1) round
2) at the center of the universe
3) and that our spherical earth revolves around it

>MUH JESUITS

Eric Jon Phelps, what the fuck are you doing here on Yea Forums? Go teach your citizen course.

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*Center of the galaxy

yes, the galaxy
got carried away

*Center of the solar system
God I'm fucking tired

same user, same

this shit goes back centuries user. they wrote the protocols of the learned elders of zion in order to incriminate judaism, which they largely control.

it's extremely difficult to explain this shit to people who know nothing of the world they live other than the shallow crap they have been forcefed by their tv's all their lifes.

op were you too pussy to post this on /sci/? of course you were

>I have yet to see a proper counterargument

I have yet to see a proper argument.
So I don't care.
Fucking sage.

>earth is flat, prove me wrong
>do not use your mathemagics, skienzees or logics

oh well.

explain time zones you freak

yes fucking sage this thread

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Everyone is literally arguing about shit that they have learned from the information relayed by government and higher-ups.

I say it doesn't matter whether the earth is actually flat or round, either way it has become obvious enough that the government and nasa are hiding something. They have the most advanced technology to do so too, so why wouldn't they supply the world with fake imagery and CGI?

I saw Eric's book. If anything, I think he is a Jesuit shill: his argumentation is so ridiculously insane that it makes people who see Jesuit conspirasies look like total fuckheads. I don't know how he manages that but his book manages to take every existing conspiracy theory and weave them together.

>everyone

I have performed scientific experiments which require earth to be round. No need for hand-me-downs.

(also, I've performed an experiment which requires that humans actually visited moon, so there.)

they arent hiding shit retard, we were taught this in school and its the same facts all over the world. your argument fucking sucks and kys

A small experiment in your garage doesn't count nor matter than seeing shit for yourself

really? now I'm curious, I'll actually check it out. In my research I have become extreme skeptical of basically all modern literature on the Jesuits. Like you say about Phelps, most stuff is so over the top it's hard to take it seriously. But old literature on jesuits abounds, and it's absolutely fascinating to read (if one understands a bit of theology and history)

FUCKING RETARDED FAGGOT

no you haven't. you don't understand the model. god you globers are tiring.

I wrote a paper on this shit for AP history in high school. Being the lazy ass that I am, I did most of my research on Wikipedia, and I remember reading that the Bedford Level Experiment garbage was explained by some kind of reflective phenomenon of the water channel. Fucking read Wikipedia it's all you have to do. Fuck your ass, stop spreading this shit. You're deliberately making a stop in the progression of human intellectual development.

The experiment was definitely NOT performed in my garage. This may come as an surprise, but some of us actually do science with proper equipment which we do not own.

But please, continue to lie to yourself, whatever floats your boat.

If they don't hide shit then why aren't they being completely honest in their work to the public?

boo fucking hoo. Back to youtube with you.

they are
thats how science works you nigger

Then go somewhere else, why do you hang around globers constantly other than to get attention?

His book is called Vatican Assassins. If is long as fuck and costs as if it is written on gold, but you can easily google a bootleg pdf copy.

He makes many references to various theologians across history, but his approach to the source material is atrocious.

He can take quotes completely out of context to further his ideas. He cuts off parts which contradict him or change the entire meaning, or, at worst, he literally expands the original text referenced by him with his own words which never existed in the quoted book.

Tl;dr version:
- JFK killed by Jesuits, everything is done by Jesuits, Authorized King James Version is the one true Bible, all good people are Protestants, all bad people are Jesuits or their puppets

- all world superpowers are secretly controlled by Jesuits and pitted against each other for the lulz and the greater glory of God

- earth is flat, vaccines kill, nuclear bombs are a hoax since nuclear explosions can occur only in specific places at a specific time and with a specific position of stars

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because globers are fully susceptible to the shit they learn and have no skepticism at all, then after learning shit they teach shit to other shitheads

I haven't read anything about Jesuits, but I heard they plan on fusing with silicon, is that true or could be?

Mmmk cloud titties.
Gimme gimme gimme

I've never heard about it. What do you mean 'fusing with silicon'?

here u go user

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The thing that boggles me about the flat earth movement that not a single person has been able to answer decently is: Why?

Why would NASA and the government and the entire global scientific community go to absurd lengths to convince us the earth is round when it’s actually flat? What is the point of the deception?

>I can't stand them
>Better stay around them
There's no cure for your brand of idiocy, that is a lesson I am patently sure is true

Flatal. Not global.

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Maybe they are hiding important stuff from us for a good reason, humans never stop wondering, and if we all were told truth then who knows where we would be right now without their deceptions

Please do not ask relevant questions from people who feel soo speshul by being the unique keepers of sacred and secret information.

There r no evidence
Show the pic of the edhe of the earth, or a vid of u knovking on the dome, or earths spherical

watch a boat go over the horizon and i guarantee you'll see the curve.
also the burden of proof relies on both earth claims. science proves sphere earth, you fail to prove your delusion. you're just a conspiracy nut who refuses to take any footage from space. hell even if we sent you up there you'd say it's them "damn fish eyed windows" or some shit.

cheers

Dear copypasta OP, here is my copypasta reply. You may recognise it from many of your other threads you started with this same copypasta:

OP I will present you an opportunity to prove the Earth CANNOT be a flat plane, if you will accept it as it meets your criteria:
No
>fake JEW math
or in fact no math at all.
No
>Fake CGI images/video
only experimental data you yourself can gather.
And no
>Hearsay 'witness' accounts from PAID government employees
as you and those you truest need be the only ones to handle the data.

Will you accept an opportunity such as this?

>flat earth
>global conspiracy

kek

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You’d think they would point toward some sort of motivation to lend credibility to their cause.

Who profits from the conspiracy? Airlines who can charge more? I don’t get it man.

Owned

>i guarantee you'll see the curve.
>i guarantee you'll see what is my conclusion.

no retard. we see the observation. the observation is that the bottom of the boat starts dissappearing. that does not mean there's a curvature. water has been demonstrated not to curve around the globe in long range laser test performed over lakes at optimal conditions. therefore curvature has been eliminated as an explanation. the actual explanation is a combination of optical phenomena and the refractive properties of water.

We ,as a species ,have had telescopes for hundreds of years now, and anyone can clearly see that all celestial bodies out there are spherical in shape. (laws of physics, gravity,etc)

You need to stop this demented crusade of stupidity, you are wrong and are wasting your time.
You also seem to be succesfully recruiting the more simple members of society.
Just stop.

hey op you ever think that maybe the hundreds of people calling you a retard are right and you're wrong? maybe you are a retard, go conduct actual experiments like watching boats on the horizon or going on a plane, using a balloon and a gopro, and shit like that, and not flat earth jewsociety approved experiments.

There r ppl pretending to be a cripple for years for a bet. Question of motivation is shit - there r infinite reasons

ah forgot i was talking to a stubborn retard that can't be reasoned with.

Guys I think he’s retarded

>anyone can clearly see that all celestial bodies out there are spherical in shape
>clearly spherical
>spherical

fucking idiot.

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None of them aside from Eastern exist. Eastern is what God uses in for Heaven. All those other alleged time zones are the result of antichristian secular humanists in places like California, England, Britain, and Europe trying to undermine Jesus' authority.

this is the most faggot op in history

>muh high iq rebuttal

Of course he won't. Flat Earthers never do.

kek this nigga really thinks he's smart for doing shitty research that's designed for flat earth omegafuckinglul

No, it hadnt been demonstrated not to curve retard. If the bottoms of the boats disappear, but tops dont, means theres an obstruction covering up the boat. Whats in the way, u shit? A wave, that doesnt move?

So in other words:
>everything I hate is the same thing.

No need to even bother writing an entire book just to say that.

>muh high iq flat earth, millions of researchers are wrong because jews!

you're so far gone man

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Oh, and space is all water. :)

someone give this man a nobel prize

>>i guarantee you'll see the curve.
>>i guarantee you'll see what is my conclusion.
>water has been demonstrated not to curve around the globe in long range laser test performed over lakes at optimal conditions
No, it hasn't. Laser experiments have ALL demonstrated that the point rises on boards above the level of the water. Every time. Flattards try experiments, experiments prove their hypothesis wrong, flattards seek another explanation that helps them continue to believe their notion that earth is flat.

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You didn’t answer his question idiot.

You didn’t answer his question you idiot

maybe that explains why they train astronauts underwater with diver suits

U say u can zoom in closer to bring items from behind walls, but u cant get better telescope to watch celestial bodies?
Eat a dick

no, you fucking dumb animal. if i turn off the lights i can't see your low iq face. that means there's an obstruction covering it hurrr. that's how stupid you sound. OPTICAL PHENOMA AND REFRACTION.

if you put a straw in a glass of water it doesn't REALLY get bigger. you know that, don't you? you fucking stupid imbecile. why do you low iq animals immediately jump to the only conclusion you've ever read in a schoolbook. Can you not think for yourselves??? life must truly be simple but boring for you low iq creatures. the elementary school book has all the answers to all the questions.

Can we make cloud titty threads an actual thing?

WTB andylog-grade schizo to spam Yea Forums with aesthetic milky cloud titties.

You were doing so good until you got side tracked with flat Earth and god. You do the legitimate conspiracies harm with your batshit rambling of flat Earth and church control.

stop talking out of your ass, retard. i've done the experiments myself.

Okay well you provided the motivation for your one example so your point is kinda mute lol

have you ever considered that you're the low iq imbecile? but no you can't be wrong because the jews right?

you ever wonder why people think you're such a retard? because you think shit like this is true.

whats the point of these conspiracies, if we do anything major theyll just suicide assassinate us or something

holy shit experiments designed to support flat earth are not real experiments. try lasers, balloons, hell even planes could work to disprove your flat cloud bullshit. unless the planes are controlled by the jews :O

You have not. Every documented case of the laser level experiment has failed to show that water is as level as a beam of light.

You are talking out of YOUR ass.

do it kek

answer my points you dumb spastic. you do nothing but babble like the low iq animal you are while parroting your conformist mantras. i insult you but also provide a reply of substance. it's always the same with you globeheads.

Retards gonna retard

> To hide god

Top kek

Rainbow city is a wonderful place

Refraction cannot account for an entire ship vanishing from the bottom up. Your talking points include already disproved laser level experiments. The laser creeps UP the board the further you are away. There is nothing capable of that much refraction between the source and the target, a truth you can experimentally verify yourself. Test just how much refraction occurs in 1 Atm air with 100%relative humidity (I could do this experiment in my Python's 4' vivarium, conditions are perfect, you could boil a vat of water in your kitchen and keep the doors closed and AC off.). It isn't enough to bend a laser to falsify a spheroid Earth result.

Your points have been addressed.

Strawman
The lights r on and theres an obstruction in the way.

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That user is about 1000 times more intelligent than your ignorant ass. You have to be the dumbest faggot to ever post on Yea Forums.

It's because zero buoyancy is the cheapest way to simulate zero gravity.

Yeah, it's huge conspiracy alright.

have i called you a dumb animal lately? because you're a dumb fucking animal. refraction accounts for the initial bottom dissappearing. the whole dissappearing eventually is due to perspective + atmospheric density + refraction.

youtube.com/watch?v=ql_TTguKxnE

ship is brought back into view using high powered zoom even though it had 'dissappeared'

hurrrdurrr muh CURVATURE

retard

Rainbow City, Alabama? It's ok if you like fishing and boating, and such. I'd rather go fishing at Weiss Lake though.

LOL, no

No. Its an example of lengths ppl can go to for any reason

The fuck is a straw size has to do with anything, especially since straws dont get bigger in glasses of water at all
Retarded moron

No, it doesnt, retarded nigger

King James Bible written by Jesuits. Completely fake.

dismissing camera zoom-out resolution loss.

When someone asks what Yea Forums is about, just direct them to this thread.

Its not broug into view from behind an obsticle, autistic abo. How close do u have to put your ugly down face to a desk to see floor trough the top?

i was making the point that you, being a dumb low iq animal, assumed that the conclusion you read in your elementary school textbook, was the only possible explanation for your observation. but this is wrong, you dumb retard. you're full of assumptions but given your low intelligence you skip an important step.

god arguing with you 'people' is tiring.

Refraction barely accounts for anything. This can be experimentally verified. You denying this fact does not make it not true. FECORE attempted a laser level experiment in Hungary to prove flatness, attempted it with a green laser and multiple points, and switched to a blue laser and point-to-point for their public results where they attempted to blame the apparent curvature on refraction (ignoring firstly that refraction would, on a flat earth, appear to show the Earth is a bowl) and never published their green laser results.

0:37 it's visually gone, due to optical phenomena and perspective
>HURRDURR MUH OBSTRUCTION
>I CAN'T SEE HURR SO IT MUST BE OBSTRUCTION
>THIS PROVES GLOBE HURRR
dumb fucking animal

0:15 'it's in full view after zooming in. no obstruction'
>HURR BUT MUH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEXTBOOK
>HURR BUT I'M SO SMART AND EDUCATED
>PLEASE DON'T TELL MY MOM
>WAAAAAA
dumb animal

No it's a clear motivation you demonstrated for an extreme action. You proceed that an extreme action has a motivation. You have not been able to do so for ALL SCIENTISTS the world over. There is no good reason that all our even the majority of scientists should lie to cover up something this apparently easy to debunk that flat Earthers in their infinite wisdom could uncover it?

It is the only explenation, retatded mongoloid half-brain. Didnt u read the fucking book? Kids in school understand it, but u cant, u brainless vegetable?

You are an idiot. It's funny tho!

So u r saing at 1st is far away, so u zoom in an then it goes behind an obstruction and u still think in u zoom in at the water, ull see it again? U know whats object permanence and whst it means to be "behind"?

It would be daytime everywhere at the same time if it was flat, right?

Did you hear about the heroic group of flat earthers that spent 20k to accidentally prove the earth is round

There might not be a good reason. Ppl lied for bad reason.
Science is verifiable, so u can catch lies. Thats why no1 can show earth is flat - cuz theres no lies

actually this clip does prove some curvature. even zoomed way in the boat still sits way too low in the water, you can't see the water line.

youtu.be/-ObD534vj3A

‘

Does the shape of the earth have any effect on my daily life?
No?
Well, then fuck right off.
The earth's a fucking pyramid, faggot.

It is. Time zones are a figment of the liberal media, who just want to divide humanity as much as possible, and make white women addicted to nigger dick. They won't stop until we all look the same.

I can't see bacteria with my unaided senses therefore disease is caused by a miasma brought on by displeasing god.

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Wouldn't a flat disk be curved? I'm literally looking at all my DVD collection right now, and all of them are as curved as they are flat. Curvature doesn't prove the earth is a sphere like the shills want you to believe.

Redefining terms

Arent miasma equally tiny? Wasnt the deal miasma inst alive, like bacteria? Its like a seed of sickness

You'd have to tether it. It could blow to another town in minutes.

Oh I love how you liberals always try and pull the old words-and-concepts-have-established-meanings fallacy. That's the oldest trick in the book.

Visually gone, but it didn't sink, it just vanished. That is optical. If it had been 20 miles distant the zoom would never have found it.

fair enough. so just replace the single word "curvature" with two words, "spherical curvature."

miasma is a smell or offensive atmosphere like around a swamp.

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Just google gravitoprism, plants and trees grow roots towards gravity ,thus suggesting the earth is round due to similar root paterns despite their location in the world.

It was more like a smell. The belief was that bad odors caused illness, and pleasant ones could prevent or cure them. Considering that they really had no way of knowing what microbes were, it wasn't exactly a totally batshit theory. They got it that diseases can be contracted by breathing them in, plus the association with bad odor isn't completely off the mark. Things that smell bad, like rotten meat or shit, often enough can be a source of infection. They were at least trying to think things through logically, even if they weren't really correct in their conclusions. A very far cry from, 'the earth is flat cuz the jews.'

How u describe it doesnt distinguish it much from current germs theory. U make it sound like they just had a diffetent word for bacteria. Miasma literally means seed. Its like u sow disease with little particles, like u sow fields, that grow disease.

heh, there were some gold miners that claimed they knew exactly where they were going to find gold because of the smell the ground had.

And it works. U dont get to redefine terms to suit u. Old, conservative retards trick of trying to understand concepts theyve never heard outside of being scared with in church

But there would have to be areas on that unified thousands of scientists across the world in a lie. Nobody has given a reason that would not have come undone years ago. Therefore there is no motive for the entire scientific community to lie.

Fuck Republicans. Bible thumping rednecks. The world isn't round. It's fucking obvious IT ISN'T ROUND.

We need someone as president who will fund actual science and admit THE EARTH ISN'T ROUND. Fuck Trump

>Miasma literally means seed
No it doesn't, though.

Thousands haven't been in space. Thousands rely on information provided by dozens.

It was a forerunner and ultimately competitor to germ theory. Germ theory is just much better defined and understood at this point. In its early days it was more on par with miasma theory. Both tried building off of the other, but germ theory ultimately won out, because it explained things much better. For example not all infections are airborne. Miasma was rooted in the assumption that they are.

The information is verifiable

Oh big surprise! The liberal is spewing racism and hate soeech against conservative whites.

Source

Its "corruption"

Thousands rely on experimentation, not on hearsay from astronauts. Thousands were responsible for the missions that lead to astronauts being possible, before any human had ever ostensibly been to space. Zero people had been to space in the time of Erastothenes and yet through experimentation they had ascertained not only that the Earth was a spheroid, but also what its approximate circumference was. Modern versions of Erastothenes' experiment with more accurate distances, real time communication, and more than two points can prove conclusively that the earth has a 3 dimensional curvature. At three points the 'close sun' hypothesis is discarded as impossible. More points only add to the accuracy.

Yes - sources allow that

>racism
>deflection
Flat earth disproved again

Literally it comes from the Greek 'pollute' (miainein) through to 'defilement' (miasma).

'seed' appears nowhere in its history.

>wut is satire
>wut is parody

I'm too drunk to keep this horse shit up dude. I'm not even going to call you a faggot, because i don't think you are one, and there's nothing wrong with it if you are. Carry on.

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Thats literally in 17th century

U r a parody of a man

Even the aquatic ones right?

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Especially the aquatic ones, because fuck them non-land dwelling motherfuckers, right?

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I’ll take gps for $500 Alex

Well I try at least, for all my fans.

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What is there to gain by this nonsensical belief

Threads that go for 8+ hours

What else ia there though? I mean I've not just been glued to this thread the whole time. I also played some retarded mobile games, and got my ex-gf's daughter to take me to the store to buy smokes/steal some tall boys. I watched a documentary on punk rock and some episodes of Red Dwarf too. Been pretty busy actually for someone just hanging around waiting to die. This thread definitely hasn't been the highlight of it. Though none of it has really.

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There were no aquatic dinosaurs, just aquatic giant lizards. People just use the word dinosaur to any lizard shaped thing alive at the same time as the dinosaurs

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Oh yea? Oh yea? Well what do you call a brontosaurus, you dickhead?

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How big was a brontosaurus penis

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Show me a source with 'seed' as a meaning of miasma.

Nice hair splitting and avoiding the real question, too tough for your little brainpan?

About the size of a Buick I bet.

So weather spinning in the opposite direction when you travel South of the equator, how does flat Earth theory explain that?

When you approach NYC from the sea, how does flat Earth theory explain how it appears that Loretta Libertad looks like she's riding from beneath the water? Why does it look like she's sinking while you move away? Is it magic illusion waves that bend light? The statue isn't shrinking, it stops lower and lower until it goes below the water.

Now now, the theory is that people are completely indoctrinated by this. Is it really fair to call them a, "dumb cunt" when virtually the entire population either believes or lies about it?

It'd be like going to a North Korean and telling them that there are countries that are better than North Korea... Except even more insane because of the sheer mass behind it (if it's true).

Conspiracy theorists need to come to normies with patience and understanding. If you really think you're right then telling people they're stupid for thinking something that literally everyone around them tells them is true... Well, you're going to raise that affective filter and few will listen to you.

I bet it wasn't someone calling you a dumb cunt that convinced you.

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Kill yourself. Pllleeeaassseee...

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>hurr durr muh bedford level experiment
Should have been done on a 600-mile stretch of water. Even round-earthers will admit their curvature isn't at all visible, being only about 0.087 degrees for a six-mile stretch of water as was in the Bedford Level Experiment. Therefore, might as well be

Yeah, use the GPS on the phone but it'll connect to the cell network to send it's location with whatever location app you're using. Even the built in, "find my phone and whether the Earth is flat or not" would probably be enough.

>jew sez so
>must be true

KEK Ive seen gullible faggots in my day but a faggot as gullible as you I've never seen before

making fun of me isn't an argument faggot.
>jew sez so
My mom isn't Jewish, so neither am I really.
I know kikes are slippery fucks, and you denying what I said without any counter argument other than demeaning me show me you're either a kike or a retard yourself.

No just use a go pro and a gps, no phones required

You should be euthanised. Your DNA should not, must not taint future generations.

>The irony is that Christopher Columbus and his followers were flat earth believers and they ended up proving themselves wrong
Like literally every flat earth experiment.

Bedford: proved curvature
FECORE Lake Balaton: proved curvature and hid their results, lied about the laser operating temperature fracturing the crystal (green stage lasers Cabot break their own crystal with their operating heat), lied about the kind of laser they were using, lied about pretty much everything
Ring laser gyro: demonstrated 15° drift which matches a sphere model, blamed it on the sky, put it in a box to stop the sky magic interfering, still got 15°.

Fucking hilarious.