Facts don't care about your feelings

Facts don't care about your feelings.

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What’s the point you are making? That because concept is in the title it isn’t factual?

No one is arguing biological sex idiot.....they aim to surgically alter it.....to reflect their GENDER.

You have zero reading comprehension.

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This post is aimed at transphobes. You're agreeing with me.

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3000 years from now, if someone’s bones are found at the site of a disaster, say a volcanic eruption we had, DNA testing and forensic testing would reveal male or female, no gender spectrum bullshit because it’s just that.
Bullshit.
You’re either male or female, you’re not a gender fluid mayonnaise, Patrick. You might be mentally ill, like the assholes who wrote that book and are pushing that flawed ideology onto kids because their parents are too damn lazy and/or stupid to teach them otherwise.

Bravo.

Dubs checked

You can't surgically alter your chromosomes to reflect your mental illness.

Same thing goes for political ideology, or how dumb you are for example.....they too won't figure that out from your bones.

Now if they recover the remnants of a dildo and the skeleton had remnants of a dress on.....may give them a clue.

Just like when they forensically analyze your post the stupidity rises to the surface.

3000 years from now when they dig up your bones they will notice the size of your pelvic cavity and will say

Wow he was a butt hurt faggot.

You claiming you hate gays and trans will not reach their ears

Aaaah.....kk.....otherwise I'd think you were a brainless troll

Those aren't facts. This is not based on any scientific evidence but rather a made up concept of mentally ill people. Seems like a meme tier book.

Butthurt genderfluid mayonnaise detected.

>if they recover the remnants of a dildo and the skeleton had remnants of a dress on.....may give them a clue
that the person was a faggot crossdresser

>itt people act like they know what they are talking about despite only seeing a couple of YouTube videos or reading a couple of articles in popular science

Surgically alter the outward physical characteristics you bible pushing sorry excuse for a human being.

There are boob men, there are ass men....and there are men.....men.....

None of those is mentally ill but rather reflect the complexity of the brain. You not using it properly constitutes an actual, worrysome illness.

That's absolute bs.

Actually no, I'm a heterosexual male with a functioning brain who enjoys its use in ways that aren't locked in ideas from the 1900's.

Not sure how much i'd trust something written by a professor from a liberal arts university

I don’t hate gays, nor trans.
I feel sorry for trans who mutilate themselves physically because time and time again it’s been proven that it doesn’t fix their mental illness -‘as reflected by their 47% increased suicide rate compared to normal society.
I would like to see them treated like the mental illness it is and not be allowed to go under the knife - they need counseling and medicated psychiatric care to fix that imbalance they have, not gender reassignment surgery.
Anyone pushing for that is pushing for them to have an increased suicide risk, and the ones supporting that are the real monsters.
Dick.

You can put lipstick on a pig it's still a pig.

Change your appearance all you want you're still male.

No, Patrick. You're not a toaster no matter how much you want to be one. It doesn't matter if they chop off all your arms and legs and open your mouth to impossible levels. You will not be a toaster peroid.

Just what a butthurt genderfluid mayonnaisekin would say.

>There is only a 99.99% correlation between gender and sex so it isn't right

>Actually no, I'm a heterosexual male
how do you do my fellow heterosexual males

>a heterosexual male
>a functioning brain

Nice one. Haven't had a laugh this good in ages.

but niggers are inferior, i'm sure there's facts in there that support that.

I am doing well my fine heterosexual male friend. How’s the patriarchy today? Doing good?

Fuck off you baiter

No let’s trust a bunch of people who have studied nothing ever

I did not expect to see other heterosexual white males such as me on this diverse and accepting website

They'll reveal the biological sex, not the gender tho

How about don't trust anyone on their word alone?

So where do you get your information from? How do you decide what is and isn’t valid information?

There's no difference. Gender is biological sex or at least they are directly tied to themselves. One comes from the other.

pleasant to hear of your well being my fellow heterosexual male, just wrapped up the monthly meeting on how us other heterosexual males will oppress women and minorities for the next month. hope things are going to plan on your end

Are you stupid? It's a biology book, scientific. Don't be so in denial

Speak to different people in the field on the subject, maybe get your hands dirty and do some research yourself.

Yes let’s give the insight of a 4 year old the same credence as that of a 28 year old PhD candidate

Spotted the offended emotional nigger that can't handle the truth.

But he doesn’t want to listen to those facts when he has biased opinions from the other side trying to brainwash him

So if 99% of biologists agree that gender is not the same as sex and is a social construct you will agree with them?

Publish date?

Because I'd be willing to bet that it's within the last few years (when these retards have subverted all true science in favor of PC mandates). It's fucking criminal. They are actually rewriting science to suit a political agenda.

Your strawman is cute. But seriously a degree doesn't necessarily give you knowledge nor does it prevent you from being impartial.

It's not high if you compare it to suicide rates of men and women that aren't trans

What research have you done into the field of gender dysphoria?

You are smart as you are funny

I mean everyone is partial in some way but a degree definitely helps you understand his stuff better than some fucking idiot who saw one Donald trump speech and declared anyone different as mentally ill

Plan is going smashingly. I dare say - we shall keep this going into the 22nd century.
Ah ha, ha ha ha. Fabulous.
Welcome to the club old chap. We have refreshments and, if I don’t say so myself, certain... entertainments you won’t find anywhere else - all at the expense of these pathetic women and other minorities. Cheerio, and have a good time old bean.

They literally rewrote the DSM - the manual for categorizing and diagnosing mental illnesses - to favor these faggots masquerading around as women. Now that isn't a mental illness.

Deviate behaviorists should end up on a cross.

It’s a conceptual study - it says right there on the cover.
A concept is not a fact.

A degree by definition gives you knowledge. That’s what a degree is. A piece of paper that says you have obtained a level of knowledge that the majority of those who have studied the subject feel that someone at that level should have.

No it doesn’t make you impartial. No one is impartial. Science try’s to be but there is room for error. Which is why all science research must be peer reviewed before it is accepted and even then other scientists will try and disprove it.

if ones gender "need not coincidence with one's biological sex", then why would you alter your genitals surgically in the first place?

Bingo.

So where do you get your knowledge from? What is an impartial source that has the knowledge that I can go to in order to obtain the information you have?

there is: multiple Scientists came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter which biological sex you have, you will act the way you were raised. A biological male will only become a male if raised how the specific culture thinks males have to be.

Not necessary considering this is something that sounds inherently fishy. I would talk to the opponents of the idea and see if they have any merit. Plus, I would personally read the research that concludes that such basis is valid, I wouldn't accept anything that wasn't proven by actual research on a sizable group of people.

What research studies have you read recently?

Are you stupid? Trans have a 47% HIGHER suicide rate than against other men and women in their age categories, statistically.
The reason the actual numbers are not higher is because not everyone is mentally ill like trans people are.

Bearly any considering the subject doesn't appear to be all that interesting.

He reads a lot but any that disagree with him he calls fake and biased

Cool can you link me to the source on that

This gender as a spectrum nonsense doesnt comes from science. It comes from postmodern "gender theorists" like judith butler and quake psychologist john money.

*quack

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf

A degree is a piece of paper. Period. You assume that a person having it will have a certain degree of knowledge but that may simply not be true. During my own course of studies, I've seen some really fucking stupid people get a degree.

I know how peer-review works. The thing is that not all proposed ideas need to be peer-reviewed to be accepted, nor doesn't it leaves the problem of overwhelming bias in certain fields such as gender study.

Few. I'm finishing this atm:
web.stanford.edu/~eckert/PDF/Chap1.pdf

Nice projection bud.

You do realise in this source being trans is one of the lowest causes of suicide

>They are getting bullied worse than Jews in concentration camps

No.

Wait read it wrong sorry.

Very true. Credentials are not the same as education.

Read economist bryan caplans book case against education.

Peer review also fails in fields that have the same ideological bent.

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>white old boomer who can't accept modern science

"Science"

>dumb millennial asshole who thinks DNA changes when you cut off a dick

Nice strawman. Nobody is arguing that DNA changes.

Triggered. You proved his point.

Well they sure as hell don’t become male or female with surgical reassignment.
Females don’t suddenly get a prostrate gland or a working penis just because they sew a tube of tissue on their pelvis.
They will never produce semen or sperm.
Likewise, men who get their junk cut off will never have a uterus and ovaries - they’ll never be able to carry a child and experience childbirth.
All they are doing is physically mutilating themselves.

For lots of trans people, hormones are enough to alleviate dysphoria and they don't get any surgeries.

Even ones on hormones have an increased suicide rate.

That's because they aren't trans, it's a fad among teens and young adults. The ones who have the mental illness never end up curing "their dysphoria" with hormones alone or surgeries and end up killing themselves or fall into addiction.

Increased compared to the normal population, yes, but once they transition, suicide rate goes down.

No, no it doesn’t.
It’s still higher than the general populace.

>but once they transition, suicide rate goes down

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Of course, I'm being sarcastic.

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Did you even read the rest of the paragraph you underlined? Those numbers don't evaluate whether or not the attempt was before or after transition.

it changes nothing and shows those who get/want hormone treatment are more likely to attempt suicide vs those who identify as trans and choose not to receive any hormone treatment

also you shouldn't assume all of those were from before receiving a form of treatment

>gender doesn't real but I need to spend thousands on irreversable surgery to reflect it
>There are boob men, there are ass men....and there are men.....men.....
Why are you using semantics to cover up that you switched from traditionally sought after female features, to just a guy outright?
Didn't think that through? Worrisome, indeed!

plenty of trans people don't elect to have bottom surgery. Its a choice that each individual makes, akin to any other cosmetic surgery.

I'm not assuming anything.

whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/

Facts don't care about your feelings.

there are only 2 gender
male
and
female