Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rejects the state socialist politics and economics of Cuba, the USSR and Venezuela...

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez majored in international relations and economics at Boston University, graduating cum laude in 2011.
After college, Ocasio-Cortez moved back to the Bronx and found work as an educational director.
Following the death of her father, she took on an additional job working 18-hour shifts as a bartender and waitress to help her mother—a house cleaner and school-bus driver—fight foreclosure of their home.

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> when the retard calls others retarded

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Sweden, Norway and Finland isn't SOCIALIST. The fact the she doesn't know this shows you how retarded she is

>Majored in economics
>thought tax breaks New York was going to give Amazon for bringing thousands of high paying jobs was money that New York had in the bank and would be better spent on something else
She is fucking dumb

>no mommy please let bezos in so i can suck on his bulge
t. never worked for Amazon

>Sweden, Norway and Finland isn't SOCIALIST
Define socialism, then. And make sure you don't inadvertently define communism, Leninism, Maoism or Stalinism

they are in the american context. American political speech is so perverted that to you social democracy is called socialism all the time in the public discourse. Of course denmark isnt socialist, they merely adopted a policy where capitalistic structures are used to drive general well being. Nobody in US politics is calling to seize the means of production. All she and sanders are doing is to accept the ridiculous way american propagandist "news" talks instead of trying to correct it and instantly being on the defensive.

Wait was she that shitty in school that she had to work as a bartender with one of the most desirable degrees in her region?

But why does she keep using the wrong words all the time? Why not just say a social democrat instead of shooting yourself in the foot by calling yourself a socialist?

So she realizes that black and brown people are the problem with any culture?

Seriously?!? It is hard to find any politician in America that does not have a tinge of left (i.e. irrational beliefs in the unproven and unreliable...black people)

When you're convinced your (at the moment not exactly popular) brand will be the inevitable winner, wearing it as a badge early on sets you on track to have your name written down in history. Especially if you're a creatura of color with a vag in 2019 of all years.

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going by "official" definitions:

socialism:
is the state in which the means of production are seized by the workers that use them to produce goods. It means the abolishing of wage labor in favor of direct participation in the value produced by their labor, basically worker collectives, not dissimilar to the way that a shareholder benefits from the value of a company. This mode of economic production still requires currency and markets.

communism:
Is supposed to be the advanced form of socialism. In it, so the theory, the public good and wealth produced by the absence of exploitation combined with automation and increased efficiency made the concept of private property meaningless, as there is no incentive to restrict access to a certain good. Think Star Trek.

Leninism:
What lifelong socialist orwell warned about in animal farm. This to many socialists is the perversion of socialist though to justify simply replacing one ruling class with another. In Leninism it is assumed that socalism and communism will not come about naturally and must be artificially forced into existence. The dictate of the proletariat (aka the decisions being made by literally eveybody who does not have direct interest in returning to a exploitative mode of production) is reinterpreted to be a literal dictator ship of a state. First thing lenin did was kill or exile pretty much all factory unions and socialists and then set about to bring forth "communism" faster by brutally industrializing the country. To many this violates the core belief of socialists, as the democratic ownership of production is impossible under an authoritarian state.

Stalinist:
Lmao im actually insane yeet all those who disagree with me.

Maoist:
Yeet landlords and also leninism basically

So she's also a communist anarchist shithead

because arguing with cnn and fox news about socialism vs social democracy when america in the 60s decided to call everything remotely left comunism or socialism is a waste of time and energy and puts you on the defensive instantly. Its the same reason black people call each other nigga. To take possession of the derogatory term is to disarm it partially.

Yes we're shaking in our boots

Fuck it, I'd vote for her

>the brownx
Been debunked
Middle class kikess ho

That's exactly how political careers start

Where is social democracy or democratic socialism?
There are possibilities of blending features of various systems.
The abuses of unregulated capitalism are why we have labor unions and why we no longer have children working on production lines.

Wym? That people that are too stupid to get a job at the private market become politicians?

and boobs.

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You'd do yourself more good by looking at the specific features and the reason they exist instead of worrying about labels. Also, I don't see how your remark is pertinent. She said she rejects state socialism, and favors democratic socialism as demonstrated by those countries. Democratic socialism is, in fact, a "flavor" of socialism.

You make a claim with no argument. Your post may be ignored without fear of missing anything informative.

well id argue that any socialism worth the name must be inherently democratic. Democracy in production is kind of the point. Social Democracy is basically just reforming capitalism and strengthening labour unions to the point where you can claim to have tamed the beast so to say. Its a very successful approach i dont inherently disagree with i just have my doubts that the beast can be or remain tamed over significant stretches of time and that its settling for less than you could. I guess your preference highly depends on how much you believe in utopia being possible

>democratic socialism as demonstrated by those countries
Those countries aren't democratic socialist countries user... They're capitalist social democracies which is very different

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She was blowing dudes for rent two years ago. She has no business in Congress. Left are idiots.

You are muddying the waters for no good reason.

Splitting hairs for no good reason.

who else? She, Warren somewhat, Sanders, Gravel doesnt count, and Aocs friends. Thats about all ive ever heard of.

who owns and control the means of production is a pretty important big fat hair to split if we are being honest.

No you are user... There's a huge difference between social democracy and democratic socialism

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So what. So was Trump. Dude was a legendary cocksucker.

Sweden, Norway and the UK are monarchies. Its hard to be any less socialist than that.

Democratic Socialism is not the same old school Socialism.

The term Democratic Socialism is widely used in europe, but admittedly its not a very good one. Its causing tremendous amount of confusion amongst our american friends.

we know

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Can you change the subject any faster? This is why no one likes your party

The only ones who dislike democrats are school shooter...and republicans. Well same thing to be honest. Ok but back to topic: why are all republicans such liars? You lie all the time

at least she didn’t have a child. obviously your mom was letting dudes nut in her without protection, hence an idiot was born.

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this must be false flag.
Disclaimer: Democrats and Republicans are both similarly hated by leftists, because both are liberal corporate proxies. Only one of them is racist and hates the general population and the other party pretends not to.

>Its causing tremendous amount of confusion amongst our american friends
lol

Yes plesse

You are correct.

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There is such a thing as an educated idiot.

yes

Oh user. I see that you are unaware of the second basic law.

Google this please:
THE BASIC LAWS OF HUMAN STUPIDITY PDF

Its actually pretty funny.

Funny that the last school shooting in america was by a dem and a transgender, didnt you just say they hated school shootings?

Liars? You just lied and you seem like a dem by how uninformed you are, so once again you project your party of hate onto our party.

Being this brainwashed, try looking at some news and you might realise how retarded you are.

Back on topic? That wasnt the topic, but ofc a leftie like yourself can only throw insults, thats why you change the topic, if you didnt you would have nothing to say.

Venezuela doesn't have state socialism but democratic socialism with elections and allows private propety.UK, Norway Finland and Sweden are obviously not real socialism.She is a fraud.

She's from a high class family her dad is an architect

venezuele is barely democratically socialist considering 70% of the economy are still under private control. Also Socialism is fully compatible with private posession of all things EXEPT the means of production

Why do you not answer the question? Of course a republican can't admit that he is lying and just made his post up.

/thread

>corrupt government bad too rich
>need more government with more money

I am scared that she isn't considered mentally ill and hasn't been taken to a psychiatric facility for treatment

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why are trumptards so scared of her?

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I know its how your logic functions, but saying something over and over doesn't make it true

Actually, that is what Trump does. There is not a single day goes by without him lying multiple times, over and over again, and his base eats it up. Amazing.

so you're doing exactly what Donald Trump does are you?

because that's essentially what you're saying within your own logic

I can only speak for Norway, but it is seen in Sweden as well, no idea about Finland and UK, though I have seen incidents in the UK as well....

It might not be that we murder rightwingers in Norway, but more and more they are being shunned by society and not allowed the right to free speech. Our media is extremely biased and almost all teachers are left wingers.

The problem with socialism is that whatever is controlled by the state, inevitably becomes leftwing, as only leftwing governments will continue to support and increase their budgets.

This problem with a rightwing government, isn't even remotely similar, as rightwingers and leftwingers alike can own and run businesses according to their own politics, and therefore businesses will represent all opinions rather than just ONE opinion.

Leftwingers should do what they are made for, which is balancing the powers so that huge corporate greedy bastards don't end up controlling too much of the economy, they shouldn't control the economy themselves!

Nowadays lefties are supporting huge corporations only because they're supporting the leftwing cause. Fucking idiots, deafened by their echochambers so that the PITH of what you resent is lining your pockets! COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY ABUSED BY GREEDY CORPORATIONS, OH THE IRONY!

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This is every western country.

Since the end of WW2 and the new deal, the left has slowly been gaining and since the 1990's have had full control of the historical, present, economic and social narrative and control of academia.

The bolsheviks ceased power violently, Hitler tried the same but got thrown in prison. There in prison Hitler admired the subjugation of Democracy by the social Democrats of his time, so he subverted it over a decade and more, but he and the communists still eventually lost their control.

since the end of WW2 the western leftists (Frankfurt school/critical theorists) they used to be called Neo-Marxists, they're now just "Cultural marxists" learnt a lot from both the Bolsheviks and Hitler. They learn to invest in the "long con", which they did. 70 Years later they have control over more than Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin combined ever could have dreamed of having control over.

No. I have said nothing in this thread that is not factual, backed up by documented evidence.
What Trump does is lie, which has been documented repeatedly, and he does so constantly, which you can verify for yourself.
The fact that his base is so enthusiastic in its support for him speaks for itself.

The left has been gaining over the course of human history.

>Venezuela

Fuck Venezuela those fucking idiots.

They have everything to be a great nation. Great access to an ocean, good weather, fucking OIL, fucking diamonds, fucking gold, huge forest areas and all the natural resources you could possible need.

They can't even refine their own fucking oil. Fucking morons.

They import large amounts of porc meat from my home country all away across the atlantic. WTF don't they know how to raise pigs?

So fuck them. They are not an example for any political system. Not for socialism, not for anything.

yes and no. To be quite honest, ironically, humanity has never been in the place to even seriously consider left-wing ideas seriously until after the industrial revolution.

Meh. Comunism/socialism once controlled half the planet.

Not any more.

The great comunist blocks have fallen. Even china is morphing into something else. Lets see where that goes.

The US seem to be opening a little more to left wing ideals, though.

China morphed into something else in the 1970's, because Communism caused worse poverty and starvation in China than any in their history ever.

I mean even under the most oppressive of Dynasties, they had more wealth and prosperity than under Mao

But Finland, and the other Nordic countries, are some of the happiest places on earth and are much closer t utopian societies that we are in the USA. Why wouldn’t you follow in their foot steps? They are doing something right.

we know

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>happiest places an earth
>Sweden
>happiest

Can someone tell me where this meme comes from?

bbc.com/news/world-europe-45308016

theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/25/nordic-countries-happy-reputation-masks-sadness-of-young-says-report

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They sure have benefited massively from their new capitalist/market economy.

Sweden beats the USA by nearly 10 places in the world happiness report.
They have a higher standard of living than us

someone should shoot her.

and stop all the damage she's doing to the Democrats already severely damaged image after 2016?

why would anyone want to do an utterly stupid thing like that.

Trump should be paying for this woman to be broadcast live 24/7 with a democrat logo in the top right hand logo, so everyone watching knows which party this absolute moron belongs too

No, the left has just gotten more extreme, Pew Research Center, non-partisan, highly respected, just do some research on them:

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guess you missed the midterms

"They are doing something right", this is the only point you made which is correct, and that point has NOTHING to do with what your tiny little brain has deduced from the situation.

CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION

But those countries have lower corporate tax rates than us and survive by taxing the middle class

If the report weren't a bunch of bullshit that'd be interesting.

yeah those are the memes that will win you the next election demtard... It's not like that kind of shit won Trump the last election....

Not sure if troll tbh

I haven’t read the second article, but the first is essentially just saying that sad people exist in the country. Like who would of guessed? It even shows the sad person percent to drastically less than orher countries

Idk dude, you can fight the validity of studies all day, science isn’t right constantly. But the happiness report is the best we got, even if it’s not rainbows constantly, it should be some sign that the Nordic countries are doing something right.

Democrats losing the midterms in 2010 really stopped Obama in 2012 huh? oh wai-

I can tall you with firsthand knowledge, that the info you get from Sweden is HEAVILY biased and controlled. They're so intent on showing the world their ideology that even the newspapers post edited pictures of censored black criminals, making the pixels show someone with white skin. Their "intelligentsia" say themselves they are not interested in certain statistics that show that they are in the wrong.

>fight the validity of the studies
>BBC
>The Guardian

y-yeah sure is some conspiracy theory shit

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No, dude, the study you are talking about shows happiness levels according to THOSE measurements. Those measurements abide by morals, and if those morals are different than mine, why the fuck should I recognize those conclusions?

They show us only ONE thing, and it's not empirical evidence for SHIT.

What makes your morals better than someone else's?

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I took a look at the report. Very interesting. It does state that the political gap has increased, which is pretty obvious to everyone by now.

It doesn't state the left has become more extreme. You did that.

Page 7 sums it up. Pic related.

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people are scared of the fucking idiots who have literally zero political or economical knowledge and just lap up everything she says as if she's the answer to all the country's problems.

socially, the right might not be pleasant to deal with especially since it's becoming more acceptable to openly discriminate people on that side of the political spectrum, but at least we're not all taking wheelbarrows full of cash to the store to buy bread.

AOC is literally deluded, if she had her own way we'd be printing millions of dollars in new bills every day to just hand out to people for no reason at all other than breathing. last time a country printed that much money they fell into one of the greatest economic depressions in human history and then WWII started so...

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U.K. is shit.
Norway is shit.
Sweden is shit.
Finland is shit.
America will never fall to a Red Chinese invasion.

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Link to full document if anyone cares:
people-press.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/10/10-05-2017-Political-landscape-release-updt..pdf

No, check it again friend. The picture itself shows clear as fucking day that the left has become more extreme. Considering the OBVIOUS fucking fact that they've moved FURTHER away from the center than the right has. AND the fact that the median is as far away from the center as shown in the picture.

Why the fuck do I need to explain something so obvious? There are plenty of other things you could say which would be legit criticism of the conclusion, what you said however just reflects biased thought.

Please explain how the first picture doesn't show that the left is more extreme... I'm incredibly curious. A little shocked anyone can be so biased that they're unable to see when the bulk moves AWAY from the center it IS becoming more extreme.

God fucking wow people are so dumb...

>It doesn't state the left has become more extreme. You did that.

>MOVING TO THE EXTREME

Literally the fucking title of the pew research pic... Fuckn wow

If you want successful European style socialism, then you need a ton of Europeans. Then there would be no AOCs.

Or maybe we could just start acting more like Europeans--you know, more intelligent.

Fox News wishes she was on their side. They worship her in secret.

I'm afraid maybe you are the biased one. No offense. I'm not even american and I vote right wing. I just found the report interesting.

The aggregate variation in absolute values was:
Dem: 99
Rep: 208

The reps have changed their positions a whole lot more in this period.

Whether the average line is close to 50% or not is irrelevant. For example, in my opinion, in the homosexuality question it should be 0% for both democrats and republicans. But the downward trend for both parties is very positive.

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not her. unfortunately

i'd be you'd be mad disappointed.
probably look like brown fried eggs that hang twice as low as they do now outside of a bra

>Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rejects the state socialist politics and economics of Cuba, the USSR and Venezuela, and favors policies that "most closely resemble what we see in the U.K., in Norway, in Finland, in Sweden".
>Ocasio-Cortez is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and embraces the democratic socialist label as part of her political identity. In an interview on NBC's Meet the Press, she described democratic socialism as "... part of what I am. It's not all of what I am."

That paragraph is more wordy, fancy, and clearly written than anything AOC has ever said in her life. Nigger Please

Probably the best attempt to highlight her stupidity.

Achieved high academic levels to work as a bartender with horrible wages and very long hours.

A bartender job in an attempt to save the house, Haha.

Maybe she took this job for 3 months and found something which paid a lot more and less hours. Or she and her mom were only required to pay a small amount to the save house. There is a lot of details left out of this bs story.

>That paragraph is more wordy, fancy, and clearly written than anything AOC has ever said in her life. Nigger Please
It's like the guy who says "I don't feel drunk at all!" then vomits and passes out.

Oh miss president, you are the greatest!
We believe in you!!!

Lmao, the day she wins hell will snow over, brace for trump 2020. And liberals/liberals/faggots/cancer, brace for it, how about you not CRYING for another 4 years when he wins?

hahahHhahahahahahhahahahah democrats are such LOSERS. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hahahahahahahahhaHhAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA DEMOCRATS

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Working as an educational director, she took a second job to help her mother. How many 18-hour days you worked to help your mom, user?

What about Tulsi Gabbard?

> trumpcuck posts lies as always

>looks nothing like AOC
shiggydiggy

Similar policies, seems to be more experienced politician.

funny because nordic countries aren't democratic socialist.
they are mixed economies, bitch is lying.

You fail reading comprehension and common sense.

> bitch is lying
Retard, OP is just making shit up. Stop being retarded

As opposed to the multitude of lunacies that now compromise the right's ideological straight-jacket?

Please read my post again. I cbf explaining her decision was a poor one given your academic talent you fuck.

*her academic*

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more ad hominem please.

Lol faggot

I'm beyond her level.

What are you saying? You'd rather had someone who learned how to cheat and got to the top with no experience at all over someone who struggled before fighting her way into an entry-level position with 75% of the vote in her district? LOL?

Not her.
But it explains how she got her degree.

>Hot dog seller is anything close to congres woman.

Kys faggot you sound ultra retarded making that comparison you uneducated redneck.

Not ad hominem to point out a false statement, friend.

So far, the only good post in this thread

Lib logic, not allowed you're to counter ANY ideas unless youre an expert in that field.

Doesnt take a mechanic to work out if a car doesnt work.

Is like to see Bernie run with her as VP. Then after Bernie dies while in office she can take over then once she’s run her terms, AOC could take over since she’d be old enough to run by then and have more experience under her belt.

love this woman

*I’d

I understood what you were saying. She took a job as an education director. Not a bad gig for someone straight out of undergrad. Then, to help her mother, she took a second job.
What sort of job did you get fresh out of college, user?

You have to meet the same requirements to run for VP.

Orange man bad

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I don't see the point of this thread. That bitch is no one. She will never do anything that really matters. She will be on her way out soon enough and forgotten like so many other clowns before her. The only reason she's a thing at all at the moment is because some twf when no gf or bf ugly fucks, you know the ones, those that people never want around, get picked last ect. have a twitter account an that's a thing right now. That's on it's way out too and along with it the tiny but loud fan base of all these clowns like Cortez.

Mark my motherfucking words because I'm 100% right about this sort of shit 100% of the time. She is a phase and a useful idiot for real power players and it will pass sooner than you think. Take a motherfucking screenshot.

Listen rook, cross examining a person who opposes your belief on a topic is retarded.

Stick to the topic.

So you wanna see the ticket with the biggest margin loss?
No one over 30 would vote this ticket, no matter how liberal they are

Astronaut.
Sole survivor of the challenger here

Kek

Not bad.

My take is her mediocre looks against the back drop of all the ugly fucks in goverment have propelled her.

I agree with your take though, she'll be just another politician and nothing more.

I disagree with your sentiment but respect your opinion. Time will tell. Bernie was pretty damn big last election and much of that popularity is carrying over to this election cycle.

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>I don't see the point of this thread. That bitch is no one.
And yet, this thread is almost 7 hours old at this point. And it seems to have you riled up a bit, user. You OK? Sounds like you might have some sand in your vagina.

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You've really come full circle there huh?

>why this bitch 29 but look 49?

These are opinion pieces. And you know what they say about opinions.

white rice, not brown please

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Obsessed

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When mainstream media and extreme neoliberals deep state scum hate you, it's for a good reason.

Sad all you people don't realise the only way to have a liveable future is through policies such as those proposed by AOC. Our current political system is bringing us to collapse.

white rice please

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Was wondering why this ugly beaners threads started popping up all over Yea Forums again & checked her current approval among her constituents in the NY 14th Congressional district & yup, shes down to 24 approval in the current Gallup Congressional District poll. Guess her dwindling suupoters just realuzed likes on Twitter don't help get House members re-elected. Her Democratic primary challenger leads by 31 points, so you can understand why the shills panicking.

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What would a newspaper owned by Jeff Bezzos say about any decent policy?

AOC has a worse head shot than Nikki Catsouras

>smart people can’t say dumb things
Looking down on uneducated Americans didn’t work out for you last election. Maybe reconsider your strategy

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>no u
Go back to grade school

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How many millions of lives has capitalism claimed?

OH, YOU DON'T EVEN DISCUSS THAT, BECAUSE YOU LIVE WITHIN A SYSTEM THAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE YOU'RE FREE, HOW CUTE

>Washington Post
Oh the news rag that’s owned by Amazon who doesn’t want to pay it’s fair share of taxes like everyone else has too? Amazon paid no 2018 US federal income tax. In 2018, Amazon paid $0 in U.S. federal income tax on more than $11 billion in profits before taxes. It also received a $129 million tax rebate from the federal government.

He's to far left to pull any votes across.
It's it came down to Bernie vs trump. Not 1 republican will cross the aisle. He would have rely on people who didn't vote come out of the woodwork.
And I'm a rep who thinks there is a way better option than trump, but it's not Bernie.

yeah,and she's proven that democrats cater to minoritys.which is why they fucked over sanders and are embracing this beaner

either way,anything is better then another 4 years of trump at this point

AOC IS THE BEST EVER POLITICIAN IN THE SHITHOLE COUNTRY NAMED UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BUT YOU GUYS ARE SO RETARDED YOU GOBBLE THE MSM AGENDA AND THINK YOU THINK FOR YOURSELVES, SO FUNNY HEHEHEHE

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youtube.com/watch?v=E85cJBAWrK8

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What do you think about Andrew Yang in terms of pure policy and not electability? To me he kinda feels like a new-aged Asian version of Ron Paul.

how come nobody made this big of a deal over bernie sanders when he preached socialism? is it because republicans really are racist and most of the reason they hate aoc is because she isnt white?

Bingo. The center-left moderate Democrat black chick challenging AOC has a 31 point lead per Gallup, 29 point lead per NY Times. With AOC down to between 19% & 24% approval depending on poll, you'll be seeing the last few remaining AOC supporters flooding social media with desperation driven pro-AOC propaganda.

if it came down to bernie or trump,half the republican party wouldnt even vote anyway.because you redneck morons still havent quite gotten it through your thick skulls yet that nobody likes trump

when they run out of other people's money, true socialist paradise begin.

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>Looking down on uneducated Americans didn’t work out for
So true. We need to find a way to mitigate their stupidity.

Nice try but Sanders was copping harder.

Next you'll try the everyone is a nazi card I bet.

they are political opposites. andrew yang wants to massively expand entitlements and government spending, ron paul wants to reduce the scope and size of government.

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Maybe it’s because healthcare has become so unaffordable that nearly 40,000 die every year from treatable illness, wages have been stagnant while inflation continues to rise, higher education to increase one’s socio-economic standing has become increasingly unobtainable because every year it keeps going up, and we continue to be pulled into wars that cost a fucking fortune and haven’t been at peace for decades. People are fed up with pro-corporate establishment politicians pretending that there’s a real difference between establishment Republicans and Democrats.

fake news

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>hurr durr,healthcare is unaffordable

i dont know whats worse,republicans making a big deal over immigration.or democrats making a big deal over healthcare,especially when you've already ruined the healthcare system with nigger boy obama

Damn Trump is doing terrible. His first term isn’t even up yet and it’s already ballooned to almost 5trillion

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I wish Ron won. I know he wouldve been advised to follow suit or face assassination if he became president but the dude was USAs final hope.

>trump is doing terrible

obama did terrible to,sadly.you were to busy chanting about how black your president was for it to matter

All these bullshit memes and all your fake news only prove your absolute and abject ignorance.

Yes, the world is fucking dying, the future of humanity is at risk, capitalism has killed the most people in history. Capitalism has brought some advancements but its now obsolete, either we change to a better model (it doesn't have to be based on any old ideology either) or we are all fucked.

Y'all laugh while you can. Mother nature will not deal with your delusional neoliberal fuckinb bullshit and run us all over like a bulldozer. Can't wait to see it, human stupidty is our demise.

"We don't need a redistribution of wealth"
-Poor dumb fucks who are literally too stupid to know better.

The US is already a dystopic country without communism, don't you worry.

Your post assumes I favored Obama in any way. I don’t. I don’t think any president in modern times has been remotely any good. We haven’t had a single good president in over 50 years. Nice try

They laugh at the solutions while they applaud their executioners. It's to be expected from the most manipulated people in human history.

Obamacare is identical to Mitt Romney's healthcare plan. Republicans loved it when it was Romneycare.

well,you said trump was doing terrible.so i just assumed you were some braindead leftist

(even though i agree trump isnt doing a very good job either.but picking a republican president was still better then 4 more years of your beloved hillary and left wing failure)

when will someone hack her and leak her nudes? I'm surprised no one hasn't done it yet.

republicans support tax payers.democrats are the ones who want to give handouts like obamacare or whatever retarded politicians name you want to slap on it

because she's an ugly liberal,thats why.left wing
"women"arent worth it

It’s easy when you’ve been indoctrinated at a young age and only listen to the talking heads on mainstream media. Millionaires paid by billionaires to tell the plebs everything is ‘just fine’ and to get back to work. All of our taxed income has been coverted into a socialist safety net for the corporate oligarchs to tap into at any point in time their shorty business practices backfire and they’re st risk of bankruptcy. Our 401K’s are soon bout to become nothing more then piggy banks for the corporations to tap into.

Calling Hillary left-wing proves you are absolutely politically ignorant. The Democrat party is more rightwing than any major conservative party in Europe. They are a bunch of neoliberal shills, part of the same two-faced system created to opress americans and destroy our future.

more subsidies = higher costs
anytime the government steps in to "help", it creates market distortion. by making things more affordable, costs are driven upward for everyone. if you take away the easy money, in order for these entities to exist costs must fall to a level that is bearable by the market. maybe the US economy doesn't need hundreds of thousands of liberal arts majors bagging groceries or waiting tables.

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Was she even alive when the ussr was around?

It really isn't. You just don't know what things mean. Typical incel, with typical ignorance.

>. It's to be expected from the most manipulated people in human history.
Truth

You ignorant dumb fuck. Do you know who gets the biggest handouts?

Massive companies with surpluses that steal taxpayer money so their workers can eat (YOU HAVE A JOB BUT CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE RICHEST COUNTRY?), the military industrial complex which is fucking massive, financial bail outs, quantative easing, car industry bail outs, etc.

IT IS THE RICH WHO ARE GETTING THE FUCKING MASSIVE HANDOUTS YOU RETARD.

When did so many people become ok with money being worth more than human life?

>your beloved Hillary
Again, making presumptions about my political alignment. You know you can ask what they are instead of assuming. -.-

I also feel like establishment Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of the same coin. There’s barely a 5% margin of difference on how shitty they are. Both sides support socialism for corporate socialism and safety nets for corporations instead of letting them face the real free market economy like they’re supposed too.

were most these idiots criticizing her for supporting socialism alive when the ussr was around?

>hurr durr,rich people bad.socialist liberal lady good

peter schiff (ron paul's economic advisor) has a nice podcast and is pretty active on youtube. he ran for senate in CT but unfortunately lost. check him out when you get a chance.

youtube.com/watch?v=RY0R0NpIdQQ

there's nothing to assume here,your a left wing pile of shit.thats for sure

Hes never gonna understand
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*shitty
*at risk

either that,or your a bernie fag.who are just as bad as people who support cortez

Conflating Hillary to a ‘leftie’ would be like when Japan assumed the US was a bunch of commies during WW2 because they were our allies during the war. You see how that is retarded right?

well,she sure as fuck isnt right wing.neither are her supporters

i guess i underestimated how stupid americans were.normally people consider the person left wing when they run as a democrat.maybe your just to fucking stupid to understand how politics works

Thatcher talking about spending other people's money is a fucking joke, m8 - that evil old cunt sold off massive swathes of the infrastructure of the UK, and none of it was hers to fucking sell.
Source - I'm old, I remember.

In a well run capitalist system fo sure.

Sadly people who think the current system needs to change dont realise we have run crony capitalism. This is what needs to be changed with just capitalism.

What does that have to do with it?

Relevancy

yes exactly right. we need to return to our roots of free enterprise and get the government out of every facet of our daily lives. capitalism WORKS if the government simply gets out of the way.

we can't BORROW and SPEND our way to prosperity. rather than trying to prevent recessions, the government needs to allow companies to fail and allow recession to happen (part of the natural economic cycle). stop quantitative easing (money printing), stop asset inflation, and allow interest rates to rise. Higher interest rates will discourage borrowing and spending, and encourage personal savings. We must restart non-debt financed capital investment in this country - the true engine of a productive, sustainable economy.

its funny how the same people who preach "small goverment"are the same ones who elected a president who never miss's an opportunity to take a picture in front of a bunch of law enforcement.i guess the small goverment republicans arent so small goverment anymore

Except the mainstream establishment Democrats aren’t ‘left wing’

Believing the invisible hand of the market will balance the economy is the same as believing that utopia will come if you install a party dictatorship: a matter of faith, not logic.

Deregulation has brought us to this catastrophe, it won't get us out.

>establishment

did you get this buzzword off trump's twitter account or something?

It's all a lie, They're all extreme neoliberals, they want socialism for the rich and ruthless capitalism for the poor. If you believe they are any ideals behind corporate and personal interests in mainstream politicians, you are delusional.

I've been reading that word for at least 15 years, so no.

It would take a holocaust of the jew banks and politicians for the system to start clean again.

I dont think we'll ever see it revert back to capitalism in our life time.

Corruption and greed ruins things.

ok

regardless,democrats seem in better shape then republicans.considering they have a ton of candidates and all republicans have is 4 more years of trump,who cant even get his own party to like him

Wait for the eventual cme, no electricity for a decade or so should reset everything to 0

wrong. free enterprise, capitalism, and unfettered entrepreneurial spirit built the wealthiest and most successful country in the world... runaway entitlements, massive government nanny-state creep, borrowing and overspending has brought it to its knees.

we're on track for one. As time passes the distortions created by a centrally planned economy become more apparent, as assets continuously inflate and the country becomes mired in debt, it also becomes less and less competitive with the rest of the world. Additionally, the increased risk from our massively increased national debt calls into question the overall solvency of the currency, and we are already seeing other countries (our lenders) begin to move away from the US dollar as the world's reserve currency.

Once the crisis of confidence peaks, and the dollar loses its reserve currency status... it's game over.

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This person exists.
Good luck America.

THIS. The "left" largely abandoned the American worker after the 70's. It's why things like deregulation, tax cuts for corporations and upper income earners, bailouts, right to work laws, the privatization of public industries, monetary incentives for big businesses, and the destruction of collective bargaining have all become the new norm. As much as Republicans push these things, Democrats have now as well for the last 20+ years.

The biggest lie is that "leftists" even exist in our political system in any meaningful way.

We've now got the right and the more center-right.

Who knows, who predicted Trump's victory?

If the Democrats present another bullshit shill candidate, the depressed american population might vote for any other option.

And I doubt the Democrats will let any REAL left-wing progressive run as a candidate, as their major objective is to prevent change, not enable it. They will fight any progressives to the death. Democrats preferred Trump than Sanders as president, so anything can happen.

This. I’m fucking tired of people like Hillary being associated with ‘leftism’. No she fucking isn’t.

>Putin's cheeleader who also loves Assad

why is she even running as a democrat? Putin's bitches have way more chances if they run as repugnant

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez deserves to be sterilized and euthanized.

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Not really, massive government?

You're healthcare is private. You have the WORST healthcare in the OECD.

Stinky, smelly socialist European nations with strong "nanny state" welfare state models have better healthcare while at several times cheaper prices.

Look at your incarceration rate, inequality, health problems, poverty, precariousness (people which work and are still poor), violence (in some cities you have the homicide rate of warzones), etc. That doesn't sound like the success of the neoliberal model, or that you're the greatest country on Earth ATM.

Wanna talk about how deregulation is precisely is actually making the financial world kill the real economy? The origin of the GFC, speculation and QE, and the global amount of debt from private financial institutions which is several times the global GDP?

Look, capitalism has done great things for humanity. And we can also learn from a lot of things, and we have the capacity to easily transition into a better model which draws from all the positives from this system.

But the data, the science, mother nature, they don't care about our stupid left-wing/right-wing arguments. We're all the same humble broke people getting ripped off by a few, and getting our planet and future destroyed on the way.

Either we set our fuckery aside and find a shared solution, or all of us are doomed.

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Get out of here with your reasonable attitude and common sense! Me tribe beter! You tribe shit!

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>bullshit shill candidate

who knows,donald trump was a bullshit candidate and he won the election

COW FARTS!
We must save the world from COW FARTS!

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Not all of us, the homeless and poverty stricken people will survive everyone.

and also,do you think hillary had a better chance of winning if it wasnt for the dnc pissing off all the sanders supporters by rigging the nomination

>Not all of us, the homeless and poverty stricken people will survive everyone.

Hows that?

She's going to bring on the revolution of an actual Star Trek reality for our civilizaiton.

Nope

There are many AOC threads, but this one is mine!
Over 7 hours and 250 posts!

Wow lol!

Ok, let me get this straight. She worked as an educational director which is, I am assuming, a full time job. Then you state she takes on ANOTHER job working 18 hour shifts as a bartender. So, you are saying that, on some days, in one 24 hour period, she has the ability to work a 26 hour work day.

Seems legit.

>Implying the peoples votes elects politicians

Great thread!

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I disagree

I agree

Lol yeah

Lol nah man

Hahhahaha

Your what?

Uncool

I don't.

SAY again?

Who?

Not really

Why bother?

Define atheism uwu

You are perverted

No

Yup

This

Lolol

Idk lol

HAHAHHAHAHA

Trump was way better option than Hillary, and he also campaigned better.

For the real left, Hillary is an establishment candidate with a frightening record. She run her campaign based on "more of the same".

Trump was perceived as an outsider among a broad number of depressed people. He also promised changes and appealed to populsim., and campaigned in the rust belt on this premise.

Hillary was a horrible candidate, but they thought it would be easy to win against Trump, cuz all these establishment psycopaths are delusional and dont' realise how many people are desperate in the US, that's all.

Were they?

Bump limit

And you're done.

No, user. She worked 18 hours total, the two jobs combined.
So in addition to a full-time professional position, she tended bar at night.
How many jobs and how many hours have you worked to help your mom?

Sanders had a better chance, all the polls showed it. I don't care about Hillary she's another extreme neoliberal genocidal piece of shit. She didn't get elected for several things which I have mentioned above ("business as usual" campaign vs outsider change campaign, not going to the rust belt, etc.) So nah, Hillary would have probably lost anyway.

>he also promised changes

you know who else promised change? obama,i think ill keep my change and you can have your shitty candidates who know your dumb enough to believe their bullshit

If I was American I would support Ron Paul, Jill Stein, Bernie or AOC, never establishment Democrat or Republican scum.

Thanks to Obama, I can change jobs and not have to worry about losing my insurance because of a pre-existing health condition. This is a gain for the country, because when I can change jobs and make more money, I pay more in taxes!
See how that works?

The irony behind your statement is staggering.

Tired of this bullshit cycle this country got into starting 80 years ago. Growth, recession, growth, recession, every time bordering on depression... We keep doing the same shit that is going to land our future straight into the dump.

>jobs

>obama

haha,somebody defending obama that works for a living.go back to collecting welfare libtard

It's a good change, but it's like Apple finally offering a Dark Mode for their OS. It's bullshit how long the right things we are given...

They know how to survive without $$ and they’re used to it.

of course the socialist non american would support the braindead socialist candidates

They'll attack her based on anything when in reality they hate her because she actually makes sense. You could post a picture of her face and righties will start flapping their hands and humming noises.

>she took on an additional job working 18-hour shifts as a bartender and waitress to help her mother

Your reading comprehension skills are total shit. Read the above quote. It specifically states she was working 18 hour shifts as a bartender.

if the user who posted wanted to make it look like 18 hours total, they should have put their autism on a shelf and actually make it sound like that.

A lot of Socialist supporters are among the smartest of progressive industries. The only reason the right got in the habit of calling Liberals stupid, is because they were tired of being called stupid by the liberals, and the Liberals ripping everything they said or did apart to go along with it. The right is just a bunch of retarded neanderthals calling anyone stupid who just doesn't agree with their bullshit attitude... At least they are proving Dunning and Krueger right.

And coming up with stupid nicknames thinking they're funny and clever.

>smart

>socialist

choose 1

also,if it makes a difference.ill call trump and his supporters stupid to.so it isnt just the left i call stupid

fair enough

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Don’t worry user! The student loan debt bubble is close to bursting so we’ll have another recession just around the corner. Let’s also not forget all the massive stock buybacks the corporations are doing to artificially inflate the value of their stock prices using their money they acquired from all the massive tax breaks they got.

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