Chess

For whom was this thread meant for?
Is for us to pad ourselves in the back going "womyn, amirite"?

I wanna roughly fuck Aqua and leave her knocked up with a thoroughly spanked ass.

E-chess. I still have my illustraded manual.

If women are equal to men
why do they organize a tournament that
excludes men in stead of a tournament for
both genders? Will it be like in soccer where men 100% are better than women.
Are they scared of the results?

That's not what is asked, who are you trying to convice? For what purpose?
And sure, men produce more geniuses but also the incredibly stupid, women get more in the average zone.

Kasparov pads his breasts.

It might also be for a special event for women. It isn't illegal for men to hold their own special event, it's just that nobody outside of incel circles would care to do so.
There are also less women who are super into chess, and so the talent pool for exceptional women is probably going to be less, due to sheer size differences. It's like the fact that it's more difficult to find talented Icelandic football players native to their own nation because there are only like 350,000 of them and until recently the nation didn't even have that many indoor football arenas.

That is what both were asking, the way I read it.

That's a chicken and egg story: are women shit at chess because they're less interested in it, or are they less interested in it because they're shit?

It reminds me of how in my country there's a massive push to make women's soccer more mainstream and everyone is asking "hurr durr why is men's soccer a billion dollar industry but not women's soccer?!". That's because you can find a bunch of 15 year old Moroccan street rats and they'd utterly destroy our women's team in soccer. That's why nobody gives a fuck. It's lower than children's level soccer.

It certainly justifies not having women adventurers. Just think about how bro-tier all-male parties are and how much of the fun leaves when some thots join.

>Not equal to men physically
>Not even equal to men mentally

OH NO NO NO

I guess having women adventurers is a problem you face often.

Are you saying that women basically think like incels? Because the more I think about it the more that makes a strange amount of sense.

I mean user, it was a woman who created the term "incel"

More than I'd like.

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obsessed

The chicken and egg of it would be that women WERE originally kept out of such activities and received not only different educations but also culturally were encouraged to pursue other activities (particularly noncompetitive ones). Thus the cycle begins and continues.

Yeah, perhaps if there were women who did great at that kinda sports it'd snowball into womens' football being a legitimate thing, mixed football too maybe.
Having separated sport teams like that is kinda shit as it imposes different levels of play, but I guess it's a necessary evil for those who want to get women to play sports at respectable levels.

Want to swallow the ultimate redpill? We could artificially induce a coma in all women the moment they are born and nothing would change. A woman's sole purpose on this earth is to spawn children, which is literally something a comatose woman could do. Now try to imagine how fast the world would collapse if we instead induced an artificial coma in men the moment they are born. The collapse of the world as we know it would happen in a matter of days, if not hours.

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I'm the only dude in my group and it's plenty fun and they all have their sis-tier thing going. It's just different from all dude party, not worse.

no one with a brain thinks this, OP, and you know it. Lazy thread. A cheesecake thread died for this.

Mage.

A lot of people think this. I'm one of them.

Thinks what exactly? Not sure what your objection is here.

Congratulations, you're literally radicalizing people to join the other side you're so edgy and extreme.

yeah it's just the exceedingly common incel-woman reaction that fucks games up.

I believe it. Incels as a community are just men who are thinking like and playing by the same rules as women. They're also conflated with every other politically incorrect viewpoint.

Are you telling me you've never had some greasy gay neckbeard with a toothpaste swirl of dyed hair and a diet consisting entirely of onions ponderously squeeze his way into your discord channel or worse, your physical table, slap down a picture of some anime girl, and say "so this is my character"? You lucky son of a bitch.

>Nooo! D-Don't be radical! You'll only radicalize the opposition! Be more moderate!
Yes, because radical centrism was extremely succesful in preventing the rise of the far left and the far right respectively.

Fuck your gay shit. I WANT things to escalate, I WANT more radfems, I want to see their pet states like Sweden and California crash and burn and I want to see them beg men to fix their booboos. Hopefully the men will realize that you should never do something you're good at for free and use it to force women back into their cages where they belong.

The time for moderate discussions, compromise and approaching the problem from all angles was 50 years ago. Today is the time to go scorched earth and put the heads of your enemies on pikes.

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I do this. Hell, I commission art for this. It's fun.

Also, I think some archetypes work better with females.

>radicalizing

Who and how? Are you this threatened by a theoretical thought exercise? If so, this might be the wrong hobby for you.

Yeah right. Pics or it didn't happen.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Then you are the cancer.

There's no fruit like low-hanging fruit, I guess...

Pics of what? My group? I don't want to get booted, I know some browse /tg/

Nice try FBI. Trying to get a promotion over Richard the file over eh bucko?

>women on /tg/

Congratulations, now I see the joke.

>You have a group full of women
> Some browse /tg/
Pick one and only one to lie about at once.

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>Nothing would change if all women were in comas all the time
You ever see a post so far removed from reality that you're not totally sure how to respond? It's even worse in this case, because of the smug sense of self-assurance. That absolutely unassailable stupidity, convinced of its own specialness and rightness.
I bet you were the kid sitting in the corner at the lunchroom. Nobody pays you much mind, though some of the crueler ones might have teased you. You're terrified to approach anyone, so you convince yourself that they're all fucking idiots and you're better than them because you're alone. There are lots of people like you, but most of them grow out of it at some point. Hopefully you will too.

Confirmed for coordinated discord raid.

That does women who act like human beings a disservice.
They do act like entitled bitches, though.

Fuck. Relatable.

You would know all about Discord, would you not, dilator?

It looks like they repealed your brain using.
It shows that you are too stupid to be play tabletop gaming.
From the look of things your sole purpose on this earth is be a drooling retard who says dumb things in Yea Forums.
>now I see the joke.
You saw yourself?

I wonder who's behind this post?

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It is a pretty popular IRC, voice chat program that had overtaken Skype as the most popular service like it, despite all of it's flaws.

(Not him) Conversely, yours are the reactions I cannot understand. Not addressing anything stated, just going on these rambling, insulting tirades.

Came here to post this.
FPBP.

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Not him either, but I'd argue that losing one half of the world's population, and something like one third of its workers, with all of them still needing to be fed, would have a rather detrimental effect on society as a whole.
The inverse scenario would have slightly worse effects (a larger number of men work in essential fields, e.g. food or power), but remains largely the same.

So men have, in the most extreme test conducted, an average 5 points higher IQ?
While I agree that's something, and possibly very relevant to daily life, the chess masters of the world operate at an IQ where a difference of 5 is a much smaller percentage change. This 5 IQ discrepancy doesn't really explain anything.

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I am 100% certain that the second scenario would be much more salvageable for the active population.

I believe women beat men out in long distance cold water swimming, but I can't remember where I read that.

It gives credency to the hypothesis that the differences are based in culture, if nothing else.
Less females play chess than males; therefore those who might be good at it never realise that potential. You might argue that they'd be exceptional, but genius chess players are exceptional per se.

A slight average advantage will still make those with the advantage dominate the top tier where it's relevant.

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If someone was saying that the world would be better off if women didn't try to do things beyond being mothers, homemakers, wives, etc., I disagree, but I can have a discussion with them. When someone says "women contribute so little to society that nothing would change if they were all permanently in comas," they're either trolling, or hopelessly stupid, or both. Insulting or ignoring is what they deserve.

Fuck your shit, I'm enjoying myself.

So you can't argue against them, got it.

Men are better in chess because more men play chess.
phys.org/news/2009-01-men-higher-women-chess-biological.html

"First, the researchers estimated the expected performance of the top 100 male and top 100 female players. Then, they compared the expected differences in points between these high-ranking male and female players with the actual point differences. Theoretically, the size difference between the male and female groups should correspond to the point differences between the top performers in the two groups.

The results showed that the top three women had more points than expected, the next 70 or so pairs showed a small advantage for the men, and the last 20 pairs showed a small advantage for the women. Overall, men performed slightly better than expected, with an average advantage of 353 points, whereas the expected advantage was 341 points. Nevertheless, about 96% of the actual difference between genders could be explained by the statistical fact that the extreme values from a large sample are likely to be larger than those from a small one."

>the chess masters of the world operate at an IQ where a difference of 5 is a much smaller percentage change
Yes, and the chess masters also operate on a level where they compete only with the very highest in their field. A 1% advantage tied to a demographic would mean the very top consists almost 100% of that demographic. A woman who wants to be the chess champion of the world would have to beat the best men, not the average man.

Reasonable enough. Does not eliminate the possibility of an intellectual difference, but it puts it in perspective. It'd be a minor factor.

Now this leaves the question of whether it is desirable for women to play chess more, and how to get them to if so.

>Now this leaves the question of whether it is desirable for women to play chess more
I'd say it is. It would certainly be more fun (for me) to play chess with women than to actually have to talk with them for an hour.

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Came here to post this, thanks user

Posting in bad faith then declaring yourself the winner when people stop arguing with you isn't very fun for anyone else, user

Wait so the entire point of the thread is just to call women inferior? How is it /tg/?

>>r9k
please go back

Because user decided that he wanted to soil his sheets in /tg/ today instead of literally any other board

Because men MUST compete in some area they have at least moderate skill in order to gain status, money, and power. Women don’t. So even if intelligence is equal on average, the number of women who will ever feel the need or be provided the incentive to compete at world class level is much much much lower.

Fuck off tranny.

Even the nicest women are basically well-behaved incels no matter how much dick they get.

Women consume vastly more than they produce, statistically. The USA basically survives because of white men, in particular.

You really believe women are somehow not welcome playing chess? You really are retarded. Less women play chess because they are wired to be less adroit at it and less interested in it.

>my arguments are so self-evident I don't have to present them

The absolute solipsism of the modern left.

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You

But also maged to not bump the thread

>If women are equal to men
They aren't, anyone contending this is a retard.
Men are on averagr undeniably more adept physically and show higher aggression by one standard deviation, for example.
That doesn't tell us a lot on how to construct civilization, though, sonce most people fall in the middle of their groups. It tells us that a geniocracy or meritocracy would inevitably end up woth more men than women in charge, though.

Where did I say anything about them being welcome or not ?
I appreciate your attempt at a reply, but please try reading the message first.

>Thinking that an actual meritocracy would exist when there is nepotism.

I used to (you) this in good faith, but it's not true anymore in this fuckibg clown world.
On the other hand, the party leader of the right party in my country just got caught on tape indulging in adultery, accepting bribes and talking about undermining and selling the country and then got voted into EU parlament by direct votes even though he was disowned by his own party.
I just want off this clown edition world. Can't we go back to 4th or even 3rd Edition?

Any political system will inevitably rot, it's just a question of how fast and how easy it's to replace when the time has come.

>IQ testing used as a measurement of intelligence
>only 5 point difference, exactly in the margin expected for a test with known implicit biases
>using this to argue women are less intelligent then men

Are you a woman yourself?

>IQ testing used as a measurement of intelligence
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)
It is the most accurate measurement of intelligence we have available.
>B-But muh College Humor video tho bix nood mufugga

>only 5 point difference
A small difference, but far from insignificant. Especially when we're dealing with averages across two groups.
>exactly in the margin expected for a test with known implicit biases
Citation needed

>using this to argue women are less intelligent then men
Yes. A lower IQ generally means lower intelligence.

More like USA survives because China makes most of the shit the USA consume.

This. Feminists are seething.

Or you are just stinking

>It is the most accurate measurement of intelligence we have available.
Doesn't mean it's good. That just means we need more accurate methods.

>There are shitters on /tg/ who actually believe in IQ
>There are shitters on /tg/ who will see thinly veiled /pol/threads and still post in it
Horrifying.

Yes, and the fact that the Romans had far less accurate measurement tools than we do means they were incapable of constructing bridges.

Careful, stretching that far is dangerous for a lady your age.

What do bridges have to do with IQ? I mean, what?
And roman men were dominated by their women. Women were considered smarter in general in Roman, Spartan, and Greek society. Peddle your BS elsewhere.

Nothing, except maybe the fact that yours is too low to understand what I mean. The fact that our measurements are not as accurate as we want them to be doesn't mean you can -with no proper grounds- assert that all of our measurements are wrong. Then you're just reasoning from ignorance to assert that whatever you like is true. Sure, it's hypothetically possible that in the future we'll find a better way to measure IQ that proves everything we know so far wrong... but it's also hypothetically possible that in the future measurement tools will show that the earth is actuall 6000 years old.

>Women were considered smarter in general in Roman, Spartan, and Greek society.
Uh-huh.

>Nothing
So you have no point?
Good. Back to /r9k/ with you.

Women btfo.

Law of large numbers

It's also over fucking nothing. The difference between sexes is laughably tiny, and not necessarily in favor of men. Women on average have better classroom performance, for example, and real differences only appeal in the top percentile or less.

It's kind of funny that, if we actually went the eugenics route, the kind of people who whine over the superiority of men would be the first to go into the forced sterilization factories.

By your smell maybe

I just fucking hate women, I wosh we couldjust fuck a robot already and reproducevia vats.

>It isn't illegal for men to hold their own special event,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah yeah and top percentiles don't matter and culture does it and women are great and men just suck sterilize them all. Can you take this to /pol/ or atleast go shit up the robots board?

How many m'ladies?

Soon...

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It takes a special kind of retarded to read "men and women are basically equal, except in contrived edge cases, and the only untermenschen here are the people who somehow deluded themselves into thinking they're superior because they're men" and start crying about how the evil matriarchy is oppressing you.

IQ tests were not designed to measure intelligence it's impossible to do so anyway since there's no agreed upon definition of intelligence.

There's also the question of which IQ tests we're talking about because there are dozens of them all functioning differently and none having any scientific basis whatsoever.

In summation, pseudo-scientific hogwash

Based but a homosexual-pilled.

It takes a special kind of retard to consider 'inferior in practically all fields' as contrived edge cases. Stay delusional, cuck.

>Derp the derpping

And you know all about being inferior in practically all fields.

I don't, actually. I don't have a vagina.

From the looks of things you don't have a brain.

God, I am so tired of all you weak men who fell on the wrong side of the bell curve bitching about women.
I'm going to make women that are larger, stronger, and smarter than men just to get you to shut the fuck up and appreciate being the randomizing factor.

>cuck
Eh, nice of you to concede defeat. I'd tell you to enjoy your delusions of grandeur, but you can't even do that, can you? You know deep down that you're wrong, but you can't admit it because pretending other people are worse than you is the only way you can validate yourself. So you'll simmer in your impotent rage and lash out to random people on some Mongolian raid organizing board.

You'll be happier if you stopped doing this, you know, but it takes time. Maybe five years down the road you'll look back and think "wow, I sure was a retard back then". Or maybe the sterilization factory will get you first.

Of course I do, I just told you I'm not a woman.

>Y-you concede, I am right by being factually wrong and only being able to respond with insults!
The cuck cries out as he strikes you.

>"Lashing out"
>Writes a paragraph of impotent seething rage
You're not fooling anybody.

>newfag thinks it's called cucking
topkek

>being this upset you played yourself
Next you're going to tell us you're actually secret trannies.

Everyone in this thread but this man is a coward.

>He gets proven wrong so hard his only response is to cry and accuse others of his own
IMPOTENT RAGE

>Of course I do
Sure keep telling yourself that moron. Maybe one day you will grow a brain
>I'm not a woman.
And you not a man either

Your tears are delicious to me.
Doubly so because I'm not even that guy.

We've pretty conclusively figured out that the alt-right are majority trannies by now, so he's probably one of them.

You know, if you lurked more, you could probably use the correct term and avoid these embarrassing scenarios.