Explain why you refuse to defend yourself and your family you unarmed bitch

Explain why you refuse to defend yourself and your family you unarmed bitch.

Unless, perhaps, you like the idea of Jerome and Jamal tag teaming your wife after they steal your TV.

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Have you ever shot a gun indoors? You have to cover your ears lest you go deaf, there's going to be blood and a bullet hole at the very least, you're going to have to deal with the court related shut even if you come out innocent in the end. It's just a huge mess and in the end costs you more time and therefore money then whatever they stole was worth. You're literally a second amendment cocksucker that knows nothing other than regurgitating garbage propaganda that rednecks push on you. You can shoot yourself with that gun

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Because i live in a civilized society, with a government that is capable to keep its streets safe an mostly gun free. It really is awesome to never fear being shot.

Keep sucking that NRA cock. good boy.

Get a suppressor and some subsonic ammo dork.

>keep it's streets gun free

Yeah okay retard.
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"mY gOvErNmEnT pRoTeCtS mE!1!eleven1!!"

The NRA is a pile of shit, they don't defend our rights at all. All they do is misrepresent us and bend over and take it from the democrats. Don't associate me with those faggots.

I'm not a poorfag who will shoot a robber and serve a lifetime in jail just cause some dude tried to steal my tv. And if I lived in a place where I would fear that my family could get raped in my own home (!) I'd move the fuck away from there asap. That's the only real way to protect your family.

Yeah no criminal is going to make his own guns, you are completely out of touch with reality if that is what scares you.

Practically nobody has guns here, only cops and a few criminals have old guns. There were 78 gun violence deaths in 2015, on a population of 17 million. I dont know how many of those were suicide and cop killings. But that is practically nothing.

Have fun living in your backward shithole of a country.

Only reason to have a gun is if you like them i you want to play with them. That is what private gun ownership has gotten too.

But the whole, to protect my family schtick is uther bullshit and we all know it.

"no criminal is going to make his own guns"

Are you professionally retarded or is it just a hobby of yours? That link was for a factory that produces illegal automatic pistols. They SELL them to criminals. The criminals don't have to MAKE them themselves.

Use your fucking head.

"and we all know it"

We all know... what, exactly? We all know that home invaders are impossible to kill with bullets? What are you on about?

Guess you better get movin bud, humans are shitty and a lot of rape happens. Have fun in your cabin in the woods away from society, hope no bears are out there.

Simple, I don't live right next to niggers. If you wanna stay in your cute little allabama shithole right next to all those escaped slaves then that's your problem.

I have a pistol for home defense, Sig sauer P226 Legion series

I'm in Philly. Plan on moving to Montana eventually. The op was an obvious joke, there are a host of threats you should be arming yourself to defend against. Exercise your nature-given right as a human being of self defense. Nobody talks shit on a porcupine when a wolf gets a mouth full of quills, do they?

Maybe in you fucked up country there is an illegal gun factory, here there isnt even a demand so why would there be a gun factory. Not every place is a thrird world country like yours.

Noice, do you think it was worth the extra price for that Legion gucci? I hear mixed opinions on it.

Yeah that's canada. And Australia has the same problem with biker gangs and homemade SMGs. You're deluding yourself if you think big brother really is protecting you. I could have pizza at my front door before I could have a cop car if there was a life or death situation.

That P A Luty SMG video I shared is for an SMG that can be made from hardware store parts and simple tools.

Guns make the weak feel powerful and the cowardly brave. - John Wayne

It was, it's a very nice piece. Cost me about $1,800 + tax

I see nothing wrong with owning a gun for home protection (i myself own 2). My only issue is that people that often own guns for protection don't have smoke alarms with batteries in them, CO2 detectors, a simple fire extinguisher, or any basic security system. Those things are 99.9% more useful in protecting your home & family then a gun.

Now if you own all those and have a gun great. But if you think owning a gun is all you need to protect your home, your a moron and stop arguing you want to protect your family.+

Bullets will put out a fire.

seems legit, cops always put out fires around here.

Keep that quote in mind when you're bleeding out on the floor with a can of mace in one hand and a taser in the other.

Yeah, that's a serious thing. People go out and buy a walmart AR and think they're preppers. If you're going to be deadly serious about a threat that, statistically, is very, very low, you need to be really up to date with every other environmental threat you face. NeverEnuffAmmo has a video on this somewhere on his channel, as does TYM I think.

Only JHP rounds though, SWC and ball just doesn't cut it.

A can of mace and a taser... Try a can of wasp spray and a hammer... But hey, I'm sure your ready for the zombie apocalypse

Well canada is flooded with guns from the US, and australia has a shit ton of guns, mainly hunting and shotguns, because wildlife. Here, Netherlands, you have no wildlife or a gun crazy neighbour. And i already told you we have 70 gun death a year on 17 million people. So yes "big brother" is keeping me safe. If i call the police they will be here within 10 min, that is the law. In test done each year the response time is closer to 5 min.

Tax well spend if you ask me.

Yeah yeah yeah, I'm sure my neighbors, the Windmillers, a couple in the 50s made up of a dentist and a stay-at-home mom will proceed to break into my house and rape me and my wife to death, keep your own paranoia to yourself.

But your socialist and everybody in America knows socialism sucks...

Okay, here comes Larry the Bath Salts and Meth enthusiast. He's got a piece of glass and a raging erection. Hope you can cave his skull in before he slits your throat. Oh, and the wasp spray isn't going to do anything except possibly poison him, which doesn't really help in this situation.

Or, you could stop being a fucking pussy and shoot him twice in the chest.

Now of course, the examples I've given so far are assuming you aren't getting attacked by someone with a gun, and also assuming that the government is perfect and not capable of any evil at all. Which is a happy thought.

>eurofag

Isn't it about time for another periodic massive, destructive war caused by warmongering governments yet? And how're those hordes going, see any rape gangs or acid attacks lately? But yeah you've got a cop with a billy stick and a god complex covering you, have fun with that.

It must be great being so braindead that you cannot even conceive of any threats existing outside of your narrow little privelaged bubble.

Shhhh, just let it happen, an american could wake up in the surface of the sun and deny he feels hot until he burns to atoms.

And that is why your country is slowly falling into ruin. The inability to adapt, compromise and learn from others.

Because I don't live in a country that allows it's regular citizens to carry little mechines designed to kill people.

Also on the off chance I did ever get shot, the healthcare system will look after me and not send me into financial ruin. You know, an actual first world country.

A racist gun owner, go figure

Oh no, far from it, I am well aware of the threats, which is why I don't live near them and came to buy a home in the whitest neighborhood I could find (despite being a spic) precisely so I don't have to deal with your kind of bullshit.

Move to Montana already as you claim you wanna do, or are you some poorfag who cannot even afford some rent while you find a place to live, but is perfectly fine owning guns?

>the inability to learn from others
Right, and socialists are shining examples of learning from past mistakes? Lemme guess, real socialism hasn't been tried, those genocides and mass starvations were all because of the CIA or something, right?

Yeah, too bad bad guys don't follow the rules.
"Well I was planning on killing this guy with an illegal firearm, but guns are illegal, so now I have to throw it out and magically become a good, upstanding citizen."

You're surprised by a race joke on fucking Yea Forums? What are you doing here newfag?

>which is why I don't live near them
You don't live near people or wild predators? Are you on the ISS or one of those private islands or something? Oh no, I got it. You just like being coddled by the government and think some cops 5 miles away are going to be able to protect you when your life is threatened or the government tries to round people up and throw em in camps again like they did with the japs in WWII.

Another fucking mindmeltingly stupid comment! Yeah, because monthly rent is the same price as a 500 dollar rifle with 300 dollars worth of ammo in a one-time purchase.

Hillariously enough, it is. But keep pretending you "cannot" do it.

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You're really retarded.


Like, not in a hyperbolic internet way, like you're actually mentally retarded.

So you think I'm going to be discarding my firearm and all of my ammo every month? Please learn how to read!

Oh fuck, got em! I'll take that as a concession, thanks.

It doesn't take more than a month or two to find a place to live unless you're a poorfag who needs subsidized housing. probably why you live in Philly deluding yourself with dreams of negros breaking into your home so you can shoot them.

You really are a far right mouthpiece.

Socialism has enough good points, just dont go all in to the extreem, same goes for capitalism, or anything else. And you are the epitome of why your country is slowly drifting into ruin. Have you seen your infrastructure lately. You can actively see your own collapse.

I own more than a few guns and live in a "stand your ground" state, but you're not wrong. A gun is your very last line of defense, and if your survival depends on an armed response then you have failed as a homeowner and as a head of household. Pick the best area you can afford, meet your neighbors, clear your sight lines, install exterior lighting, reinforce your doors and get good locks for your doors and windows, consider investing in a dog, make sure the city is diligent with street light maintenance and police patrols, then worry about what kind of gun to buy.

Dont you think that is kinda fucked up, that you live in a country that cannot protect its tax paying citizens?

At what time did I claim that was the case?

Okay, you really are having trouble here, I can smell the burning electronics stench coming out of your ears from all the way over here. Let me explain.

Rent cost money. Rent mean pay every month. If pay 800 dollar rent monthly, that mean 800 dollar X 12 month. But if buy rifle and ammo, that only 800. Only need rifle and ammo purchase one time, not every month.

800 < 800x12

Does that make sense? Do you follow? Do I have to open excell and start making spreadsheets here or something?

>socialism has enough good points

I agree. T-72s are pretty cool, Hinds are good attack helicopters. The Soviet anthem is a banger, and the uniforms are on fucking point. I love brutalist architecture, which the soviets also did. They're atheists usually, which I'm all for.

>slowly drifting into ruin
he says as the economy is performing better than it has in years, he says as europe is run over by a wall of tolerance, he says as the areas that are most poverty-stricken are almost always the inner cities, which are almost always run by democrats.

I can't see that collapse, actually. What I CAN see, when I open a history book, is a shitload of socialist collapses. And if I turn on the news I can even see a couple in progress in a few countries.

Agree with all of those things, except you absolutely should get a gun first. Only takes slightly longer than driving to the deli to order a sandwich. Exterior lighting and reinforced doors don't stop muggers or government dictators, as well.

Welcome to the planet earth. It's not a video game where the government is this all powerful being, no matter what country you live in. Stop living in a fantasy world, take responsibility for your own safety. Be independant.

MY point still stands, you haven't moved because you don't want to or you're too poor to do so and you resort to paranoid fantasies of shooting black gangbagers to cope, the fact that rent costs money is inconsequential when it's gonna cost you money all the same when "you move to Montana" either as rent or house payments, you're gonna pay. Period. End of story. Why are you still there in the projects other than being in denial? Wait, let me guess, they haven't opened a cheesecake factory in Montana and you're just waiting for that so your job can move with you.

Actually exterior lighting, whether on city streets or from private residences or businesses, curbs most crime after dark. Turns out criminals don't like operating in the light, excepting the dyed in the wool psychos who frankly don't obey any laws of man or sense. And the best protection from tyranny is a well informed and active voting population.

Well you own a gun, so that you can protect your family, thus you are scared that something will happen to them in your house, and nobody but you can protect them.

That is literally saying your government cannot protect you properly.

Nah, I've got ear protection right near my bed, also live in a stand your ground state, the minute they're through your door they're dead. After the initial investigation when the police arrive, nothing more need be done. Even if I do go deaf, its better than being dead.

That fact that you cannot separate socialism from communism, proves my point.

You are a blind and gullible sheep that marches to the tunes of your overlords. Have fun.

I don't have the money at the moment to move my entire fucking life across the country, congratulations sherlock, now tell me what the fuck that has to do with being able to defend yourself with a gun.

No government can. In fact, if we go by genocide numbers, it looks like they're the ones to really look out for.

I know, I'm just saying. Those ones who don't care are the ones you need a CCW for.

Or a lot of guns. And if you wanna talk about the fat cheeto that just got elected by a well informed and active voting population, we're boned.

Yes, because being anti-government means I'm a gullible sheep. Certainly not the other way around.

Socialism is the lube they rub into your asshole before they slide in all 13 inches of communism.

Oh shit! I might go deaf! Better let them rape my wife!

Oh fuck! I might go to court! Better let them kill me & my family.

Hey buddy, you can't go in there and rape that family, don't you know rape is illegal?!

"Your entire fucking life" is nothing if you're single, so unless you're attached you're being full of shit.

That's what silencers and money are for.

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All of my family is in this area, and all of my friends are down in Cape May, where I used to live. You're being obtuse and obfuscating the argument at hand because you're out of steam. I'll move when I move, probably a few years after finishing college classes and saving up extra money with my degree afterward.

And I'm not sure if fwb counts as single...

RIP hudson
:(

No, I own multiple guns because I inherited them and three that I bought for myself because they either looked fun or filled a sporting niche better than what I already had. That they can be used for self defense is undeniable, but remains secondary to my interests.

>the ones you've got to look out for
I'd like to say you're crazy, but I've been to Florida. That man-eater case they had a few years ago really forced me to take stock.

Rather be prepared for a bath salts zombie and never meet one tha- AAAAAAAHHHHH MY FACE FUUUUUUCCCCK

Nothing wrong with having an interest in firearms firstly, as long as you're not a fudd who can't see them used defensively.

That is the only good reason to own guns, fun/sports and hunting, but you dont need an AR for that, although still there is the fun part.

You don't "need" a firearm for that matter. You can hunt with airguns (yes, they make ones that can kill deer) or bows. You can plink with airsoft guns, like I do.

ARs are the most common hunting rifles around right now. They offer rapid follow up shots so kills are more humane in case the first round isn't a vitals hit, they come in calibers ranging from .22 for shooting squirrels to .338 for shooting moose and bear, and some animals must be hunted with a rapid fire rifle, like invasive hogs that destroy thousands of acres of farmland.

My government can protect me and my family for a few generations now, only the second world war was close, still no one died, but it was close. We haven't hada single violent insided in my extended family for atleast 70 years.

And yes you are a sheep, you literally spewing out propaganda from your government over and over and over again. I do not believe you are capable of critical thinking.

Gun ownership is motivated by fear. I'm not so cowardly I fear some home invaders are going to kill my family. but we do have lots of rattlesnakes on the ranch. That's why I only have a shotgun loaded with rat-shot.

I know, the poor fuckers. :(

Most of the reasons to own guns have nothing to do with fear user. Stop projecting.
>just f-fite me with your f-fists

>ARs are the most common hunting rifles around right now
For hogs and varmints, definitely. They still lag behind bolt guns for big game, though, and there are still A LOT of 30-30s out in the woods come deer season.

>only my family lineage was nearly severed from a war caused by tyrants who, get this shit, banned the people they were throwing into gas chambers from owning firearms so they couldn't fight back. You should listen to my clearly informed and not delusional drivel.

>from your government
My "propaganda" is 100% anti government in nature. You're fucked in the head if you think what I'm saying is pro-government.

I do not believe you are capable of 3rd grade level reading comprehension and/or understanding of context clues.

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>My government can protect me
HAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHA

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I would love to go hunting, but everything worthwhile has already gone extinct, no more nature left. All of those things, from bow to airsoft are illegal here, unless you have a permit (sports and such).

If your reason for owning a gun is protect your family, then the reason is fear.

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Nice dubs also i got a few guns Mr. FBI.

All the anti-socialisme stuff, and pro gun stuff is coming from one side of your government, but you arr apparently to delusional to see it.

Well I'm sure not being willing to defend your family will prevent them from dying if anyone were to cause them harm. You must be so brave, what with all that willingness to watch your family die in front of you just so you can puff your manly, hairy chest out and say NO to guns.

Remember "just hit him with a candlestick holder or something."

Oh yeah. I'd love to get a .30-30 for hunting, I like the idea of an open sighted manual action gun for hunting more than an AR, personally. Bolt guns are always gonna be a favorite for hunters, but ARs are just so common nowadays.

Where are you? I know in germany they have some wacky laws were insanely powerful air-powered crossbows are legally considered toys, despite being able to take out a T-rex at 200m. (watch the Slingshot Channel, shit's cash)

I lost all of mine the other day in a boating accident. Darn!

Great, you figured out what I just said.

That's one reason out of like twenty to own a gun.

And even then, how is that a bad thing? I never understood the "coward" argument. Yeah, I'm not afraid to admit that I'm terrified of someone murdering my family. If that thought doesn't scare you enough that you actually shit your pants, there's something wrong. That SHOULD scare you. Fear is an evolutionary advantage, you're here today because your ancestors used their fear to gauge situations and lived to reproduce. So tired of people saying that.

It can and it has been for 3 generations now, with only WW2 as a dip, still no-one died in my extended family, but it was close.

Netherlands, you cant even own a slingshot here.

Too risky. I have young kids, they get into everything and they will find the gun too. My options are to lock it up or keep it otherwise disabled in which case it's useless to me in a B&E. And don't try to give me that "you need to train your kids to respect guns user" bullshit, they can't even shit on the toilet consistently much less be trusted around a loaded gun. Nah, I'm better off with a knife and good security practices if I want to keep my family safe from harm.

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There is a pretty big difference between murder and suicide. Ayn Rand is clearly an idiot.

>Nobody wants to fuck that horse you have for a wife
>You are irrelevant, you have no enemies
>In case the gov becomes tyrannical, your guns won't do shit against their army

If they take away our right to bear arms America will become a tyrannical police state and we'll have to rely on homemade weapons that will likely be extremely faulty

>better off with a knife
Be careful. Depending on what state you live in defending yourself with a knife or a bat-- even if you don't actually kill anyone-- could be treated more harshly than if you opened up on someone with a Tommy gun. Here in Texas a few years ago, a guy went up for aggravated assault and attempted murder for cutting a would-be car jacker with a pocket knife. The prosecutor eventually dropped the case, but that's still time and money he's never going to get back. I'm not saying don't do it, just be sure to cover your ass.

If they wanted to go full Stalin on your inbread ass, what would stop them? They have fucking drones, and bombs, and the biggest military the world has ever seen. You think you're the one who's going to stop them with your assault riffle and your Rambo cosplay fantasies?

Canada has high restrictions on guns and is not a tyrannical police state

You know when pro gun nut jobs say the "problem isn't guns?" Well they're right. The problem is our countries goddamn obsession with guns. The fact that we fetishize them prompts a good majority of our problems with guns. We don't need gun legislation to take guns away, we need gun legislation to change the narrative on guns. Get conservautists obsessed with something else.

Canada doesn't have the freedom of speech. That's kinda tyrannical.

They also bag their milk. I don't want to live in a world where bagged milk is normal.

Most of the civilized world has high restrictions on fire arms and for a good reason, you can't trust people to have a gun and not having a senseless massacre here and again. I agree, you should be able to own a gun as long you're able, and willing to take a test to at least reduce the risks of people going full autistic and killing a whole bunch that didn't need to die. But you don't want a test either so, it's really a fucking problem that you own a gun you don't need

They do, what are you talking about?

You’re acting like this is an everyday occurance

All I want at the end of the day is to see a very firm piece of crap sticking out of you and sliding into the water like an ice cube

Gun laws too strict.
I prefer to use my machete and a bullet proof shield

>machete
You from Brazil?

Wow that's wild. Better not let those civvies own a fucking slingshot, they might revolt!

Weed's finally starting to get legalized here in the states. Not that legal status ever stopped me, but at least we're getting somewhere.

I currently have 12 stitches on my arm and 6 on my left thumb from a severed tendon from sharpening a knife and slipping. I've been using knives since I was 10 and helping my dad with yard work. My left thumb only has about 30% as much power as it used to, and barely any movement. Knives are incredibly dangerous.

Use a safe. They make safes that mount to a wall or under a desk that can be opened quickly and allow instant access to a loaded firearm, they even hold it in a way that lets you grab it fast as shit.

You DO need to train your kids around gun safety. When I was little my family didn't like that I liked guns. I remember trying explain to them, even as a child, that it would be much better to teach kids gun safety than to just tell them guns are evil.

If someone has a gun they stole from someone or bought from an illegal manufacturer, and they decide they want something from you, that's a M U C H bigger threat to your family than a gun sitting in a locked chest. Irresponsible people will always exist, and some of them will always own guns.

I just bought Atlas Shrugged, I'm about to take a double dose of that pill.

>ayn rand is clearly an idiot

Says some random user on Yea Forums

I'm actually gay so I don't have a wife, that insult is funny as shit though I'm stealing it.

>I have no enemies
That's not correct. Bizarre statement to make, I would have gone back and omitted that if I were you, it's not really an argument at all.

>your guns won't do shit against their army
The Viet-Cong and Colonial Americans would like to know your location.

This nigga gets it. Look at venezuela. Their "revolution" is a wet fart, because the government has all the guns, and they don't even have toilet paper.

>inbread
L M F A O

>restricts personal freedom and puts people in jail for misgendering a tranny
>not a police state
Google "cognitive dissonance."

What are you even talking about? What government is obsessed with giving it's civilians the ability to fight back against them, except for early America?

Having a heart attack is not an everyday occurance. Are you saying my boss is stupid for having several AEDs in our facility?

Fires are not something you deal with every day. Is it stupid to have an extinguisher?

Severed arteries are not an everyday occurance. Is it stupid to own a couple tourniquets and know how to use them?

hmu bb

Found the machete wielding, bullet proof juggernaut.

Libs aren't taking our guns. Why don't you hold our president more accountable.

"That tiger that's circling us isn't currently eating our face off, so we should just stand here with our thumbs up our asses."

Next.

Trump's a dork, he hasn't done anything except admit that he's fine with doing away with due process and banning bump stocks to appease the liberals at the expense of... well, we're talking about bumpstocks, so at the expense of rednecks who blow up tannerite in their backyards.

aight I'm too drunk to continue this thread, have fun lads

Just bought a gun a week ago. I live in a state with some of the more rigorous gun laws in the country. It took about 20 minutes. Cost me $350 (I bought a lightly used 9mm handgun). It’s worth it for the peace of mind. Also shooting is pretty fun.

You’re most likely to shoot yourself or a loved one with a gun in the home. If you want to keep yourself safe get rid of it.

I'm not unarmed. I have 2 arms and I'm sure they would work quite well against a person breaking into my house. I know where everything is and since everything is technically a weapon, I'm good. Also I have fake signs in my yards pretending I have a security system. Also I like to laugh very loudly when I meet someone for the first time, that should be enough to scare away an invader. It works on normal nobodies every single day.

Both good reasons to own one! I like protecting my family and those around me, but I also like big noise bright color when pull trigger.

That's horseshit, gimme a statistic if you wanna be taken seriously. I already did my own research, and know where I stand. Don't just come in here with some weaksauce bullshit like that without backing yourself up.

Tell me, who exactly is gonna shoot themselves with my Zastava M57 when it's on my hip every waking moment of the day except when I'm sleeping?

I shot a .45 inside of my apartment. Not deaf.

That's that subsonic ammo. The only experience I have with a firearm going off inside is my drunk dad firing a .22 at our microwave once when I was little, how was that .45?

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Most likely is you swallowing a bullet. Or your kid sneaking in through the house and scaring you. Or your wife gets scared and shoots you. Or someone actually breaks into your house and you kill someone else in the crossfire. Or you force them to escalate to armed violence. The possibilities are limitless.

>annals.org/aim/fullarticle/1814426/accessibility-firearms-risk-suicide-homicide-victimization-among-household-members-systematic

Would you agree that the increase in cars on the road has led to an increase in number of suicides and homicides by vehicle?

>most likely is you swallowing a bullet
Yeah. I worked in a nursing home. I'm killing myself the day I find out I have alzheimers. I will die by own hand, eventually. Is there another point you're trying to get to? Are you trying to make an actual argument or are you just saying whatever you can to try to... get some sort of leg up?

Suppressors*

I am a far leftist gun owner who hunts you softdicked homo

Leftists operate under the inherently false assumption that everyone in the world acts and behaves the same way they do because of their conceited self of intellectualism, and therefore no one needs to protect themselves because they don't see the need for self preservation. To them the world's people are inherently good and guns only corrupt these otherwise virtuous individuals the same way they think money causes greed.

My dick is currently soft and I'm gay, and I have no problem with either of the first two statements.

You have spoken the truth today, sir. Thank you.

You got a source?

The point is that the “I’m protectin ma family” power fantasy is some false bullshit that you were sold by gun companies, and that you are actually putting your family at risk owning a firearm.

A source for what? Me wanting to give a middle finger to the universe by taking a 12 gauge foster to the forehead instead of dying slowly of some bullshit disease?

>power fantasy

You're right, I should stop trying to be so macho and instead just let my family be totally defenseless. Are you even reading what you're typing? That's great bud, you're so brave for not wanting to defend your loved ones.

"I'm a heartless cunt who cares more about looking tough than keeping the people who raised me and love me unconditionally from harm. You should listen to what I have to say."

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Have fun when your son kills himself

My family have owned guns for over 100 years and we will continue to. I've got a picture of my great grandma with a deer she killed and her .30 carbine. Come and take them

>son

Man I don't think you've read what I've written. Unless medical science allows men to get pregnant some time in the future, I'm not getting anyone pregnant. And are you stupid enough to think that if you take away access to guns you've cured depression? Are you that insensitive and uninformed?

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I've shot an ar with a brake in a car you pussy ass liberal

>any punishment for killing crooks on your property
The absolute state of nonamericans

>with a break

Mr. Pressure wave is not your friend.

Dude england is a shitshow, there's that famous story of the guy who got locked up for killing a murderous teen with a 12 gauge.

Yeah it sucked but i was only ringing for a bit.

What's the context on that? SD situation, or one of those ranges that lets you shoot from inside a burned out car?

Addendum: my uncle carries a single round of Buffalo Bore in his G21 chamber, with a full mag of Gold Dots behind it so he can smash through his windshield in case he gets stuck in a backstreet here in Philly.

so instead you would rather be killed along with you family or child or watch them raped

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nope when seconds count cops are just minutes away, at best

at lest the cops will take a picture of you dead body, and look for the killer that is long gone

That's the logic I don't understand here. Like I can understand, atleast on a caveman retard level, the whole "you're a coward for owning a gun" thing. But. If you have a family, you should care about them. you should do everything within your physical power to protect them. I'd put a fucking bullet through my head to protect my family if I had to, I cannot understand anyone who has this weird "you're all dying with me" mentality.

keep sucking that NWO globalist cock

no where on earth is 100% safe
try again faggot

how many stabbings? bombings / acid attacks lol

globalism is the future
your racist nationalism is coming to an end
you only want guns so you can harm refugees and maintain non-inclusive communities.
IT AIN'T HAPPENIN CAP

>But the whole, to protect my family schtick is uther bullshit and we all know it.


libtard in a gated community with armed guards detected

Nice keyboard (IDK shit about guns but they look good)

ROFL , just remember when they line people up and shoot them

it the useful idiots like you they shoot 1st

The most commonly repeated arguments on both sides are equally stupid and you're showcasing that fact very well. Kill yourself.

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funny thing is the left is
more racist
more fascist
then anyone else

>racist nationalism

Isn't it funny that the tribes that survived the stone age are the ones that clubbed the everloving tits out of anyone that came near them, and cared about their own? Huh.

>harm refugees

oh it's a sarcastic post shit dude you got me at first, lmfao.

That's a Hudson H9. Brand new pistol design. This (very attractive) couple were stranded in a cabin in a snowstorm and instead of fucking like rabbits they were like "lets make a gun." Too bad they didn't sit down with an industry expert because they essentially screwed their own company by announcing an aluminum framed version of their steal-frame pistol before they had enough money to manufacture it.

Second pic is some variant of a Beretta 92, gorgeous italian handgun.

Third is what appears to be a beretta bobcat, very popular handgun to suppress, .25 ACP.

You ever notice all these commies who want a revolution are rich art students blogging from a 3000 dollar macbook daddy bought them? They're literally the first ones going against the wall when the 2020 Red Terror starts and we get our own NKVD after they have their little revolution. totally self-unaware.

>horseshoe theory

"Everyone is stupid except me, the centrist. I have no serious convictions and mediate in all issues, completely disregarding evidence in all cases. Therefore, I'm smarter."

Eat an entire bag of foreskins.

EXACTLY!!!!

Liberal retards call everything retarded so you don't reallize how racist they actually are!!!!

They dont' look at blacks as equals, they look down on them with sympathy

five-star post by a truly brilliant user. what a twist!

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WOW YOU GOTEEM HOLY SHIT CONSERVITARD OWNED EPIC STYLE

Pity, even. Poor blacks and gays too stupid to do anything on their own, here, take this government grant. Ever see those videos on liberals saying minorities are too stupid to get IDs, therefore requiring ID for voting is racist?

>exhibit a: a two word phrase I heard someone use last week that I think describes what you wrote.
and I guess that's all you need to decide right and wrong. Herd mentality is so very efficient.

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>heh, kid, that was a stupid post, but let me show you a REALLY stupid post!
You did it!

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I live in a safe place, and I have appropriate security measures on my house, so I don't feel I need one. I have adequate outdoor lighting, good locks on my doors/windows, and exterior cameras. My bedroom is on the second floor with no balcony to climb onto, and the bedroom door has a strong deadbolt, which I lock before bed. I have insurance on my belongings. If I hear someone break into my house, I'll just call the cops and wait it out in my locked bedroom. Not risking my life to shoot a burglar who may or may not be armed, when insurance will probably cover the loss anyways. If they care enough to break down a deadbolt into my bedroom and kill me, they'd probably kill me even if I had a gun.

In every day situations outside of home, I feel safe without one. I live in a safe area and have never been mugged/assaulted. Almost nobody I know has ever been mugged/assaulted in my town unless they were somehow involved in selling drugs. That isn't to say it could never happen, but it is a small enough risk that I don't feel I need a gun.

I don't begrudge anybody for owning one, but I don't need one.

>thinks their regurgitated political rhetoric deserves more than a nanosecond in the spotlight

Dude shut the fuck up. Come up with your own arguments that haven't been shot down like the luftwaffe and we'll have a fucking discussion.

>not saying anything of value
You did it!

He thinks Jordan Peterson is credible

>I live in a safe space
No you don't. Not if you live on Earth.

>I have appropriate security measures
So you have a CCW, carry a pistol with at least 20 rounds total, and have at least one weapon strictly for home defense. Good job user, glad you're on my side.

who are you talking about? And why are you bringing some weird lobster into this debate?

>Nigger detected

Doesn't Even Deserve A Reply

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The argument is usually not that they're too dumb to get IDs, but that IDs take time and money to get. For someone working a shit job, already behind on finances, taking a full day off to arrange a ride and go down and wait in endless lines at the DMV, pay $50+, and lose a day of wages can be a big obstacle. If they were less expensive and provided via mail, there'd be no issue

>says my shit doesn't deserve a reply
>replies with post that proves they have literally nothing of value to say in the first place

womp womp, better luck next time jackass.

>ID's take time and money to get

Literally took one day to get my ID, I don't remember if there was a cost but I can't imagine it being more than 30 bucks if you live in a really stingy county/city. If you're telling me minorities can't afford that because of the color of their skin, you're a fucking racist and your presence makes me sick. Stop pitying people with darker skin than you you privelaged fuck, treat people like people.

>still here
the joke is on both of us. Just like gun control!

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I didn't say anything about minorities, I was talking about poor people

I'm preparing for something else actually

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>I'm still in my own fucking thread

Fair point though.

I'm a software developer in a good neighbor of Seattle. I don't need a fucking gun.
If I lived in a middle-class neighborhood which actually sustained robberies and murders aside from domestic violence cases, I'd certainly see reason to buy a gun.
Oh, I suppose if I lived in Buttfuck, Alabama, I might be bored enough to own a gun, as well.

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>poor people

If you can't afford a couple bucks to get an ID you've got bigger troubles, like not being in a good enough begging spot. I mean seriously it's not like it's 1,500 dollars. If that was the case I'd complain too.

I'm a fan of X. I think his approach was better than MLK's. Peace is great and all but when your race is oppressed for that long, it's time to break out the rifles.

>I don't need a fucking gun

Then don't get one faggot. Fuck.

It's less about the $30 and more about the day of lost wages. I didn't say I agreed with any of it, I'm just explaining the argument

safe place =/= muh safe space buzzword. There do exist towns that aren't crime-ridden hellholes, you know, as hard as that is to imagine for Americans.

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Yeah dude I'mma keep it real witchu chief, I don't give a fuck. Welcome to america, everyone needs to go and get an ID if you want people to be able to hire you and have an inkling of who you are.

The argument is silly. I get it, but shit's hard for poor people regardless. Having to take a sick day is hard for poor people. Having to go grocery shopping is hard for poor people. I think the ID should be free personally, but you still need one.

>in towns
>not crime ridden hell holes

Hi welcome to the Homo Sapiens race. We act like cunts when you cram us into a small space, and it doesn't matter what the government has to say.

Tell that to all the people who were thrown in gulags and starved to death from Mao's inability to provide food for his nation. Guns (that they definitely had) really helped em there, eh?

gulags and starvation memes aren't based by any reliable imperical data, all the stats around it are sourced from a dubious book that was even debunked by its own researchers. Even then, 20 million die by preventable causes every year that is considered unprofitable to fix. Even if every inflated estimate of deaths for "communist" nations were real, it would still be far less than how many people die now.

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>imperical data

washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-deliberate-starvation-of-millions-in-ukraine/2017/11/03/0999f2d0-b8bb-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.df3ac5e59e68

I think gun laws need reformed, without a doubt but guns are a right and police aren't able to show up to help the exact moment you need them. Big bet that my 5'5" headass is getting a concealed carry in a few months because of how much of a target I am to be mugged or whatever.

Why are gun owners so racist?

terminal autism
seek help

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