Why are liberals so goddamn retarded

Why are liberals so goddamn retarded

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Doesn't planned parenthood also save kids

[large heterogeneous group represented here by a straw man] is retarded

fuck a baby dude whats the point of banning abortions

because you keep hauling them into vans man they come out with original content and an economy and you ruin their lives in a way.

A child is not a child until the child is born.

Unless you want me to claim life insurance on a clump of cells and then miscarry my way into a lavish lifestyle, then by all means.

If you don't think plenty of bums are going to take rampant advantage of pregnancies being considered full, living citizens of the US then I have a bridge to sell you.

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You seem to be confused about the difference between a child and a fetus.

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Welcome to the bi-partisan system

Instead of everyone working towards the common good, you have two extremes of idiots doing everything in their power to have as little in common with each other as possible, to the point where any and all common sense goes out the window.

And all the while, the kikes profiteer

>cuckservatives trying to take my stem cell source for little tyrones
Fuck off moralfag, if I end up in a wheelchair I want a full fetus injected into my spine. I hope your sister get impregnated by a black

...

Why do conservatives only care about babies before they are born?

this

life starts at conseption, you autistic jewish nigger faggot

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OH NO NO NOO

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why do liberals not care at all?

we don't. Friendly reminder that living in your fantasy world does not alter reality

Do you even know how life insurance works?

Doesn't have a heartbeat for weeks nignog

no. He thinks its legal to take out a policy on a person then kill them for the money

Life insurance for an unborn fetus will need to become a thing now. Hilarious.

2.5 million lives saved each year
how few die again?

Then so should child support, and welfare.
Oh wait conservatives don't support those things right?

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>implying all living things have heartbeats
learn to science friend. Scientists agree that human life starts at conception. The abortion debate centers around when a fetus becomes a person.

still do. You're batting 1000 at being an ignorant faggot

>Conservatives are hypocrites so I can be a hypocrite too.
Cool.

If you think a fetus is alive. Then you think that every miscarriage deserves a funeral as well to be consistent. Do you think that?

A fetus isn't a child.

This is video of a fetus right after it was ripped from the womb.

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We could keep both sides happy. Every American should be entitled to one free abortion and one free firearm per year.

Wait, by the logic that conception creates a "baby" and that said baby shouldn't be aborted because it's a person, mean that if two non-immigrants come to the US for any reason and literally conceive a baby, said baby should automatically be a US citizen.

On some of the cases where the parents get to stay in the US due to having birthed a baby on US soil, would that mean that the couple could miscarry and still get to live in the US, as the baby who was born could die and the US wouldn't revoke the parent's citizenship.

What about African Americans?

Scientists do not believe life begins at conception. Are you high? Or do you mean that "life" like plant life is technically alive begins at conception?

We talking ripped as if it exploded out of the abdomen of the woman like in the Alien movies? That would be awesome.

You didn't answer my question. Do you?

well, technically it chewed its way out, but yes.

Just give them the guns and they will take care of the abortions.

I didn't even read your question.

I second

Foetuses are almost comically un-living when you actually see the ones that are legal to abort. They are basically a collection of cells that given a LOT of support and resources, could potentially become human. But you know, the same could be said of a human spermatocyte. They all have the potential. It just depends on which point you feel is the 'point of no return'.

There's a real danger that if you don't think too carefully about it, you end up vilifying women who honestly have no choice.

For instance, some people believe life begins when a zygote is formed by the meeting of sperm and egg. But obviously, if that zygote fails to implant (which they frequently do!) Then has the woman 'killed' that 'human'? How should she feel about that?

What about spontaneous abortions in the first few weeks. Super duper common. Was that woman negligent in keeping that 'person' alive?

You see how it gets complicated?

Once you accept that a whole bunch of potential babies never make it out the gates, through complete random chance, it becomes a much smaller deal to allow people to have a hand in picking and choosing which pre-humans get to go the distance.

It is however personal opinion at which point in the journey to humanity that interference becomes unethical.

I personally think that after the first trimester, it's pretty iffy, and should only be done to save the life of the mother. Full person trumps uterine parasite at that point, I'm sorry. Especially since both lives are usually threatened. Before that, I don't really care. It's very much 'not very human yet' from a bunch of metrics of development that I care about.

Some people (Catholics come to mind) believe that every sperm is sacred. I'd wager most people here, even pro-lifers, don't agree with that. I certainly don't else I'd be a mass murderer rivalling Pol Pot.

You're conflating a subjective reality (birth-right citizenship) with an objective reality (life starts at conception).

>A free abortion and glock with every happy meal at McDicks
Best America.

Even more awesome!

>conseption

based and true, trees are alive and do not have a heartbeat.
life does start at conception.
stop coping, you're completely wrong. 5 minutes on google will tell you that.

libtards are fucking stupid

yes they do. The zygot is the beginning of human development. It's the difference between a cell and an organism

The fuck are you smoking? Life has been defined by science for a long time now, the definition doesn't change based on what organism you're studying...

because when you have an IQ below 80 it's hard to understand those who have one above 100, so it's just easier to say they are retarded when you can't grasp basic concepts.

>trees are alive and do not have a heartbeat.

Ooh, this is a really solid argument actually.

>sperm is sacred
sperm isn't life to say, you can argue it all you want but sperm is nothing without an egg, and an egg is nothing without a sperm.

as far as the abortion debate, the question isn't whether the fetus is a living human being, it's whether the fetus is defined as a person and is deserving of rights given to other people

cuz your trailer park grannie raped your muffin when you was only a child. shit bird

I'm OK with killing a plant. I eat them all the time. So if my moral compass that I do not kill technically living things. Then I also would not eat plants.

I do not think you should kill a conscious human. Which fetuses are not so a fetus won't even miss not existing because it was never aware of its existence in the first place.

Although true, can't we assume that the certain amount of birthright citizenship cases could now be argued toward citizenship being awarded to parents who simply conceive a child as many argue that conception is the start of life.

Sure it wouldn't apply to every case not even most cases, but it will apply to some.

the point is I'm sure Republicans hate the issue immigration more than abortion, which is why I believe bringing up this point will convince some Republicans to make abortion unrestricted again in the state of Alabama and Georgia.

And in most states a fetus is given rights, and killing an unborn child - unless you're the mom which is totes okay - you will be charged with homicide.

I even fucking spelled it wrong and you retards fell for it

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>declared his bait
even worse, fuck off newfag

And a gun owner isn’t a criminal

The 13th amendment doesn’t actually grant birthright citizenship to people who are foreign nationals, it was meant as a way to grant citizenship to freed slaves. And I’m assuming your using the “Mexican refugee” point, but it’s a mute one. Children born to Mexican nationals are Mexican nationals simply by being born according to mexicos laws, so technically the child cannot and should not be granted American citizenship just for being born on US soil according to our constitution. Also, a fetus is not yet a citizen so even if a child was conceived on this side of the border it wouldn’t make a difference, you need to Have autonomy to be a citizen. The point is you don’t need autonomy to be living though and therefore you should not be able to murder a child even if they are in the womb still.

Define conscious.

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>And in most states a fetus is given rights
Aside from the bullshit that Alabama just passed recently, I would like you to point out one right a fetus has. Either at the federal or state level.

>700,000 abortions a year
>30,000 gun deaths a year, only 50 of which are children
>2.5 million defensive gun uses per year
Hmmm.

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it was a declaration of the left's inability to meme

Switch guns and abortion and you have the conservative position.

I don't think the analogy extends to gun owners in general. A murder definitely, but not a gun owner.

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Best post here is ignored.

Uh, I just did? Charging someone with homicide for killing an unborn child (against the wishes of the mother) is ipso facto fetal rights...

>30,000 gun deaths a year
I think you'll find over 98% of those are not committed by legal gun owners but by criminals
Gun laws do not apply to criminals

So is the argument for no abortions and no guns, or abortions and guns?

At the 6 month gestation period. Abortions should not be allowed after this point unless for emergencies to the mothers life. I value the mothers life over the child's in this kid as it is not independently alive while the mother is.

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but more people are saved by guns a year

and there is no right to kill your baby

we should just ban death

Okay so you DO think it's wrong to kill a fetus, you just define when it's wrong and when it's okay based on brain waves. Progress, at least.

>killing an unborn child
You didn't provide an example. You just asserted that states give rights to fetuses. And again, a fetus isn't a child. Now let's try this again. Where in law does a fetus have a certain right granted to them?

planned parenthood prevents abortions from being done through contraception

Kinda hard when human mortality is a thing.

Since you can't google, try this on for size?
leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN§ionNum=187.

Most people are not for late term abortions and believe in some form of limitation.
Grey states are the only no limitation states.

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>epicenter of human consciousness
Really?
Epi
center
?
!

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You are not at all wrong, but its still nihilist way to see things. If you agree to disconnect people in coma, even tho they are not dead, now I can see your point, even tho I don't agree with it.

And since you don't know law or apparently can't read, I'll point to it for you using your link.
>Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought.
UNLAWFUL KILLING. Abortion isn't the UNLAWFUL KILLING of a human being or fetus. If it was, then abortion would be outlawed in California as your link would suggest. But it isn't. Because it is not UNLAWFUL.

>child support

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>clump of cells
You are also a bunch of cells, kill yourself and test your point.

PLANNED PARENTHOOD PREVENTS ABORTIONS BY PROVIDING CONTRACEPTIVES

Own your stupidity. You literally asked "Where in law does a fetus have a certain right granted to them?" In California (and most states), a fetus is literally given the right to life unless it's mother decides to kill it.

It's clear as day. Even the subsections point it out.
>(b) This section shall not apply to any person who commits an act that results in the death of a fetus if any of the following apply:
(1) The act complied with the Therapeutic Abortion Act, Article 2 (commencing with Section 123400) of Chapter 2 of Part 2 of Division 106 of the Health and Safety Code.
(2) The act was committed by a holder of a physician’s and surgeon’s certificate, as defined in the Business and Professions Code, in a case where, to a medical certainty, the result of childbirth would be death of the mother of the fetus or where her death from childbirth, although not medically certain, would be substantially certain or more likely than not.
(3) The act was solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother of the fetus.
The terms only apply to an UNLAWFUL killing, but other it does not give full rights to a fetus. If it did, it would be enshrined and unalienable in law.

By the way, you fail to mention that this comes from penal code, which is part of criminal law and is separate from a country's or state's bill of rights. So I will ask one more time: where in law does a fetus have rights?

To continue , you better own your own stupidity for not providing an example.

Yup, I do think that about people in a coma who are no longer conscious and just in a vegistative state due to brain damage and are just kept alive by machines. They are basically just human sacks of flesh that we are growing for like no reason.

Why is OP such a goddamn faggot

Hurr Durr it's a right but not a full right muh bill of rights

It's not my fault you're this stupid. Do you need more links? ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx

PLANNED PARENTHOOD PREVENTS ABORTIONS BY PROVIDING CONTRACEPTIVES

Yup. The republicans won't say it. Abortion is a huge voter base keeper.
No ones going to mention any of the services planned Parenthood offers outside of abortions.
Just like no ones telling these retards late term abortions are for medical reasons, not "I don't want it" reasons.

I see your point but no way in hell an insurance company would ever cover an unborn fetus, and if they did premiums would be insanely high. Too much can go wrong.
I didn't Google anything here so I'm wide open to be proven wrong if I am.

>muh clump of cells

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>Wants literally every policy possible to ensure a high quality of life and opportunity for everyone
>Hurr liberals don't care

A fetus isn't a human fuck nut.

A penal code is not a person's rights. It's a set of rules that people must abide by, and if not it lays out the consequences for breaking those rules. Nowhere in the link you gave showed the inalienable rights of a fetus as a person (because, newsflash, a fetus isn't a person) just what should happen if a person or fetus is unlawfully murdered. That's penal code. The rights of a person is given in a bill of rights. It would explicitly state what rights are given and to what class of personhood.

For the last time. Where is in law is a fetus bestowed right. Either give an example or own your stupidity.

oh right,republitards still preaching about gun rights.but elect a president who after 8 years of no gun control he was the one who passes gun control with 0 outrage from his fake republican supporters.meanwhile,the bible thumpers ruin the country again by banning abortion in their southern incest hillbilly state

freedom to them is only freedom unless you support gun rights,the gay community.or abortion

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fetus=has human cells. has human dna. but its not a human. great logic.

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Child support is for the child, not the mother's personal expenses. Not a whole lot of spending a fetus is doing. No shots, school books, food, clothes, ect.

The thing is the people who vote liberal on impulse are dumber than a box of rocks,but the elites at the top of the establishment are cunning as fuck.

The point of letting someone who was born here stay is that it's likely all they know. It would be fully retarded to send a whitewashed mexican who only speaks english to mexico when they were born in the US and don't know anything about mexico

Might as well take care of the ones that are already here, but if there's a chance to not have more mouth breather before they're born pull the fucking plug. It's not like it's your kid or anything so who cares?

Y'all are gunna be pissed when it's nothing but hundreds of little nigger babies born cuz they're the primary demographic that's both stupid and broke enough to not use contraception.

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You guys don't even understand what these new proposed bills were about. There are plenty of good reasons to have a late term abortion, you probably know someone who's needed one (maybe even your mother. They don't talk about it much. It's not a gleeful liberal murder affair. They're almost always heart shatteringly terrible) and the bill was meant to make it easier to get them in the event of medical emergencies and free doctors from liability.

I had a friend who had an abortion in her third trimester. It was a miscarry. The fetus died. The child was extremely wanted. Carrying to term would have put a lot of unnecessary strain in her body. Pregnancies aren't walks in the park. They are extremely draining on a woman's body, and even potentially fatal.

Under the new republican bills like the one in Georgia, she and the doctor could be investigated for the procedure and if the investigators don't like what they see, there could be charges handed out.

These laws were meant to protect and aid people like her who are far more common than you realise. She probably couldn't have even had the procedure in Alabama if she wanted because of poor access to clinics and doctors who would not want to risk the liability

>"I saw it on a sourceless internet jpg so it's gotta be true."

You've already lost the argument. Your next link is pointing to the only state that considers a fetus a person because it is now in Alabama's constitution.

In case you don't know, that's where a person's rights are stated. Not in penal code, dumbfuck.

because when you are an inbred Republican all foreign ideas sound retarded. Trump took your bump stocks and Obama didnt do shit for abortion rights. i want guns and abortions for all

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Are you really being that obtuse to try to wiggle out of your stupidity? It's actually just sad.

If you can be jailed for killing a fetus, it's because the fetus had rights (i.e. the right to life). If it did not, it would be impossible to be jailed for killing it.

I want one big law that makes birth control free and abortion illegal.
>Saves taxpayer money (less welfare babies)
>Reduces poverty (less unplanned babies)
>Less crime (less niggers)
>Eliminates virtually all excuses for unplanned pregnancy
Why the fuck not?

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not to mention life insurance wont pay you if you execute it your giant moron.

>Reduces poverty

Ain't a single politician gunna sign that.

>clump of cells
>sentient clump of cells
see the difference?

Retake basic biology you inbred waste of cells.

we need troops and working poor. duh

When does life start oh wise one?

What's there being obtuse. That is the exact definition I was asking for. What inalienable rights are there to fetus? What can you find rights for people? In constitutions and/or bills of rights. Not penal codes. Are you stupid?

The cases where people are jailed for the unlawful killing of a fetus are due to the mother testing or providing factual evidence they intended to have a baby. Believe it or not, there have been cases where a murderer was tried for filling a pregnant woman and there was proof she did not intend to have a baby. Guess what? They were only charged for murder of the woman. Not the fetus.

You wouldn't understand. Hence go back to school kid

The Russians are cooking this shit up, you're all Russian idiots

Seems like you're not sure, maybe you should break open that biology book.

I like it. I love guns and hate people on welfare, so this is a great solution to eliminate the poor for good

Continuing from , I'm getting tired of this. Are you going to give an example or not?

>"da Russian don' wan' us to murder our babies!!"
Mental libtardation

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Life begins in the nutsack anyman who masturbates should be executed you are killing millions of babies, in fact, ejaculation itself murders millions of babies since only one can impregnate a girl, men should be culled they are genocidal maniacs

>Why the fuck not?
Because I have a better idea.
Make a law that abortion is illegal and that every unwanted baby is taken away from the parents and put into children's home run by the state. The children are going to be educated and trained to be the perfect future sex slaves when they turn 18.
Interested citizens can visit the institution and order their sex slave, even before the future slave is 18. So the trainers can train the child in order to favor his/her/its future owner's needs and interests.
>State makes a lot of money that can be put into public healthcare, education, infrastructure etc.
>Reduces rape and sexual harassment etc.
>Less crime (less children growing up in toxic environments + more children getting an education that enables them to lead a meaningful life as a sex slave)
>Makes unplanned pregnancy a service for society!

It's called the Dunning-Kruger Effect. You perceive them as "retarded" because you are extremely unintelligent and uneducated so when they speak to you, you can't actually figure out what they're saying. It's a literal intellect-keyed language barrier.

Life starts at the seventh month of gestation.

Already did, again you're just being obtuse. You don't seem to understand the basis for criminal law.

Again it's very clear, if a fetus has no rights, it should not be possible to be tried and jailed for killing it. For example prior to UVVA.

That's not what dunning Kruger effect is.
More like he read an opinion piece and has the bare minimum facts on climate change as well as the nitpicked arguments on anomalous data and, because he doesn't know enough to actually form a reasonable understanding, thinks he knows everything about it.

Only liberal cucks think this. Life begins when a sperm is created. If you've ever euaculated you are worse than even the most deranged feminist slut when it comes to baby killing

Nice pictures of miscarriages you're misrepresenting as abortions. Kill yourselves.

God says so, anyway.

Not being obtuse. Your rights and mine are listed in the U.S. constitution and our State's constitution. In the amendments. Not penal codes. There are no rights in any state's constitution (except for Alabama now) that are explicitly given to fetuses.

To show how stupid you are here's an example; you probably know there are laws against deforestation in some states, so does that imply trees have rights in those states? NO. Because those laws are in penal codes.

I'm done. You can't provide one example to me because you either can't find one, you don't understand what rights are, or you're a troll. My guess is that you don't understand what rights are.

Actually, biblically, babies are only alive after they take their first breath at/after birth. The "breath of life", the "holy spirit", it's all based on very early myths. The "soul" is your breath, God's gift is the air you breathe and you "give up the ghost" when you stop breathing.

Fun fact: there is actually abortion in the Bible. God instructs a woman who was unfaithful to go to church and make a tincture of dust, dirt and water and drink it so she won't have the other man's baby.

oh wow the liberal lie machine is in full effect

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>muh centrism
the middle of the road is the worst place to drive, kiddo

Ignores the fact some women dont want to, or medically cannot carry the fetus to term

>700,000 abortions a year
>over twice that many embryos thrown out by ivf clinics every year
telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9772233/1.7-million-human-embryos-created-for-IVF-thrown-away.html
>fucking crickets

Not when the "left" is the moderate right and the "right" are drooling, brainless retards hovering around fascism and theocracy.

Actually, a Republican retard answered this. He straight up admitted its all about punishing and controlling women. "If there's no woman, it doesn't count." Direct quote.

>miscarriage

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Perhaps because I'm not an Ameritard I don't have the same idea that a 'right' is somehow different from the real definition of a right? Trees for example have a legal right to exist if their is a pertinent law that says as much...

Your Daily Reminder -
Every day on my feed I see political bashing of the other party from many of my friends.
You need to know that this is exactly what they want, to keep us fighting each other!
They're ALL a bunch of crooks who don't give a shit about the 99%

>"STUPID RIGHT WINGERS DON'T WANT TO CHOP THEIR OWN DICKS OFF AND CARVE A HOLE INTO THEIR PELVIS!!!"

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No, I think you'll find that most of those are accidents and suicides.

>muh alternative facts

npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/29/521919322/2-activists-who-secretly-recorded-planned-parenthood-face-new-felony-charges

splinternews.com/the-justice-department-will-investigate-a-fake-right-wi-1821111502

Stillbirths and miscarriages used without permission by two fucktards who forged illegal IDs and are now felons.

The great thing about this cartoon is you can swap the signs around on the bottom and it works the same for the opposite party. Neither the Dems or the GOP have a consistent ideology. They're all hypocrites.

>Ignores the fact some women don't want to
Nobody cares.
>medically cannot carry the fetus to term
They must try it, if the fetus dies naturally, it maybe removed, but the mother (NOT her husband, NOT the father, NOT her family) has to pay the bill.

And now fuck off and be a white knight somewhere else, faggot.

>someone actually took the time and effort to make that retarded travesty
How very SAD.

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Oh, then let me enlighten you. Nowhere in the U.S. constiution is a right given to a fetus. Nowhere in state law (except Alabama) is a right given to a fetus. If you haven't picked up the meaning of OP's post, this is clearly about U.S. politics in relation to abortion. Your opinion doesn't matter in the discussion. So fuck off.

If a troll, you got me good. 10/10. But still, go back to your shithole country.

This is an reply to

These aren't as bad. They're cheap and extremely simple.

The point is still moot and a straw man though, so kindly fuck off.

Do Republicans actually care about abortion? Or is this just another meme that they think pisses off the left?
I thought the Right hated regulations and bans.

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Conservatives support getting off your lazy fat black asses and put down the obama phones, and stop wasting taxpayer money, you useless oxygen suckers

I'm aware. I was joking in response to the other guys statement on sperm because that's what the more Catholic churche's position has been. Wasting sperm makes for mad god.

>I thought the Right hated regulations and bans.
The right loves regulations and bans.
Everyone who wants to be in charge loves that. That's why we should execute every single politician on this planet. All of them are enemies to freedom.

Guns saves kids too honey, and libtards wont say it

All of you have stopped making any sense

liberals are fucking insane

I'm right wing and eat my steak rare

steak with ketchup isn't that rare in the south. I had it once and it wasn't bad, you should try it

Everyone calling eachother retarded for what they believe in, but all of you believe in absurd shit for absurd and misguided reasons

They aren't trying to ban guns either...
A known ISIS sympathiser with foreign citizenship can buy a gun.. they want shit like that changed with slightly more restrictive gun control.
Responsible gun owners are fine.

I'm in a country with high gun ownership and low gun murder rates. The government tried to put in a gun registry. It was strongly opposed by both liberal and conservative voters because it was a waste of money and only punished gun owners in the end.
But you do need to go through some yellow tape to get a gun here which cuts gun access to some people you wouldn't want to have guns.

And no it doesn't cause them to get guns illegally. only some will do that. There is no catch all policy, but it reduces gun ownership a lot on dangerous people and our murder rate is much lower than yours because of it.
That's what American liberals mostly want. Fox news and Facebook just show you the hippy morons with the headline "this is what retarded libs believe!" And you fell for it.

It's funny because you can't see past the 'bill of rights' vs. a right. For example your own example for trees... Do trees have rights? Well if there's a law that says they do (or specific trees do), then yeah they do... But because there isn't a tree bill of rights it's not really a right. Ameritard.

Also it matters to me because I live here. I'm not even pro-life, I just dislike retards like you.

...

Abortion kills 1,000,000+ kids a year

Guns 300.

Good luck.

Yet... if I willingly break the eggs of some wild bird under the pretense that "it's not a real bird, it's just an egg", you retards would throw a hissy fit and call me a nazi for it.

>Let's just kill all bird eggs! They're not birds anyway!
>Let's just destroy all saplings! They are not trees anyway!
>Let's just demolish all pre-schools! They are not universities anyway!
>Let's just burn down all forests! They are not furniture anyway!
>Let's just end everything that is not fully formed yet! They are not things yet anyway!
>Let's just kill all fetuses! They are not humans anyway!
This is how retarded your argument sounds.

More like 0 and 12,000, but thanks for playing.

>leftist "humor"
whew

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It's not meant to be funny. It's illustrating a point. A very valid one too.

He's talking about the image sweety.

God DAMN the left can't meme

>kids
OMG TRIGGERED
Are you happier if they say abortion kills 1,000,000+ humans a year?

Ugh, these trannies are going too far
>AWWWW DID I HURT YOUR FEELINGS MAGAFLAKE
Excuse me?
>*takes hormone supplements* I JUST BET YOU GET TRIGGERED BY THIS DON'T YA *puts on dress and makeup*
Sir?
>IT'S MA'AM ACTUALLY *grabs scalpel and begins to slice cock off*
Are you...okay?
>I SWEAR THE SLIGHTEST THING TICKS YOU OFF *shoves cylinder into bleeding hole* I AM VERY NORMAL

BASED Baby Killing Psycopath

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY STRAWMAN HAS BEEN BTFO BY THE INTELLIGENT RIGHT-WINGERS AGAIN *clutches cartoon award that nobody has heard of* PIC RELATED, IT IS I, THE INFERIOR MATT BORS

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I didn't even read your post, you dipshit. I couldn't care less about what randoms on Yea Forums think about anything.

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actually looks a bit like him to be fair.

Kids who are already born =/= kids still in the womb. Prove me wrong.

Maybe for you, weakling

It's a meaningless distinction.

There is a difference between action and apathy. I dont think you should hunt the homeless and elderly and at the same time im not going to fund a shelter and and old folks home. This is ethicaly conistent not doing harm vs not giving

If a person was in a coma for 9 months, it wouldnt be right to kill him, even if he had no active brain functions.
Let's play your game though, you can at least agree that after 6 months, the baby is viable and thus is the same as a newly born baby in terms of worth, if we judge it by your standards
If the baby can live, outside the mother, then I don't see why you can't just deliver the baby instead of killing it. There are loads of people who want newborns.

Thats not how that works the parents dont get citizenship only a child so the dead baby would be a dead citizen and illegal parents deported.

not if they're black lol

The baby has no idea what's going on. So what's worse. A whole life of bullshit and angst because you were left behind? Or a quick procedure that the baby has no idea about?

Utah should outlaw it.

Babies have no idea what's going on even after like 3 months out of the womb, should we be able to just nope them into a river no probs?

Anyone who believes in individual liberty should support both guns and abortions.

Every person owns their own body. A woman's body is therefore her property, therefore she has a right to evict anyone inside said property.

The guns are there to shoot the people trying to deny your basic property rights.

Neither the left or right give a shit about individual liberty anymore.

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I believe that abortion should be done in a lawful manner, if you want to get it done you must fill out a form stating your reason for doing so, if the state decides your reason is valid, you may get an abortion. It cannot be a case of “I don’t want this baby(no reason stated)” and liars found guilty must pay a fine for it/jail time (depends if the law finds it to be murder)

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It may be their body, but unless they were raped/plain retarded, it was their choice to let a man enter their body and inject his seed.

>inject his seed.

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Take the potential abortions and make test tube babies, allow those that are denied adoptions for whatever other reasons, THESE children.

Then 16 & pregnant LITERAL CHILDREN don't have to careen into living hell (or more likely have THEIR parents saddled with that hell.) Weirdo incestos can fuck without fear, minorities don't have to grow up with single parents becoming a drain on the system, and most importantly; freaks can start "normal" families, i.e. lgbtqmdops can NOW adopt these unwanted children,

BUT!

Any girl getting a birth deferment must also get a tubal ligation as a cost for the service, later, if she wants to become a mother, she'll have to confer with a committee, who will decide whether she can have a (free) reversal, or optionally she can adopt from the test tube kid list.

99% of the time, it was her choice to invite said person into her "property"
It's her fault, and her choice and she has to deal with it. It's not freedom to abandon the problems she caused, or else, I can apply the same logic to everything.
That baby is an individual themselves too, and the founding principle for freedom is Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. Emphasis on the first part, which means said individual cannot end the life of another

Fucking hilarious

Because the wealth of the liberal bourgeoisie insulates them from the consequences of their actions, allowing them to be utopian as hell. Conservatives won't do anything about it, they're the poor bastard workers getting ripped off by the liberals. Fascists won't do anything about it, they're the overseers the liberals pay to keep the workers in line, and only pretend to hate the liberals. Not even Bernie will do anything about it; social democrats will call the cops on the revolution when the chips are down.

Only communists will ever do anything about these liberals. May God send us another Stalin and deliver us from their wickedness.

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Why aren't any republicans talking about how to care for the babies they're forcing women to bear to term? Do they stop caring once the babies are born? What's the point of forcing a child to exist to live in poverty?

Try to come for my AK and you'll NEED Medicare for all, you damn dirty capitalist.

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My surplus labor value is my property, and I'll shoot any lazy welfare queen bougie who thinks they own it.

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>Why are liberals so goddamn retarded
If that's an honest question then the honest answer is complicated.

Look into R/K Selection theory of evolutionary psychology and take it with a grain of salt. It will be an interesting read for you and is a good place to start.

The individual inside the woman's body has no free will therefore no liberty to protect. They might have the potential to one day be able to exercise liberty, but the woman has liberty now. I will prioritize liberty over life every time.

If I invite someone into my house then that person starts eating all my food and demands to stay with no rent and I realize that this was a bad idea, I'm not allowed to change my mind? Fuck that, I'm kicking him out.

Kicking him out.
Not ending his life support that you created in the first place .
You dumb fucking roastie

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>You dumb fucking roastie
Thus illustrating that it's a bunch of incels being mad at women for having sex as usual

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>why ban abortions criminals don't follow the law

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If I decide to pay for someone's life support for a few weeks, that doesn't obligate me to continue it for 9 months.

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You start the life
You finish it
If I lock you up in prison I can just quit feeding you, yeah? It's your problem not my body.
You will learn your lesson when it's too late

>kids

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Being mad for not accepting responsibility for your own actions you fucking adult children

I'll have "What is a strawman argument" for $200, Alex.

Just a thought for you though... Isnt that it?
They give off a huge great package of things, STD testing etc etc... Which is great. But then they have abortions as well...

it doesnt matter how you look at it, liberal. You are preventing a life from developing. You wouldnt want it for yourself, yet you think you can dictate how the future should be for a fetus(and in a few years a person)?

Wow, delusional on such a high level. Btw, I guess id be a republican (im european), but even I am for abortions if the mother was raped, or if the child is going to be born with birth defects, or if the mother risks dying from giving birth...

Liberals are really shitbrains, with no insight into reality. All i hear from liberals is " Me me me me me me and me". So selfish and useless, typical :-)

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You literally want to punish women for having sex because you can't get any. Pathetic.

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You're sub human. I had a wife and child.
Have fun withering into nothing. No one will save you

I take responsibility for my actions because I am an adult. Women no longer have the ability to call themselves adults if they can t accept adult responsibility

>Just like no ones telling these retards late term abortions are for medical reasons, not "I don't want it" reasons.
Yea, except over 90% aren't though....

If you don't want to feed me anymore then throw me out.

Let me ask you something. Are you vegan? You ever eat any farm animals? Farm animals that were created for your food? If so, then you paid someone to create life then destroy it for your own sustenance and pleasure.

Hell, take some antibiotics and you've just killed millions of bacteria. That's destroying life too.

So, black man bad?

Good thing I support the life of my own species . Unlike wamyn.

>A fetus isn't a human fuck nut.

No youre right, its a DOG, or a bird, maybe a seashell actually.. Good observation.

Man liberals are so fucking delusional. It is truly twisted that people are this evil, and not only that, this really fucking stupid.
Liberal logic:
School shootings, hell yeah lets be against this and riot from morning to late evening!!

But abortion, which is effectively in the end the same thing, and absolutely is murder on every level fine by me!

With that said... If it isnt murder to kill a fetus by abortion, is it then legal for me to stab a womans stomach with a knife to kill the fetus? Lets say the woman survives and i go to jail for battery, i murdered the fetus. Does that make me a murderer or simly a criminal in jail for battery?

Think long and hard retard. You know the true answer to these questions.

Then again, there is nothing to discuss with you people. This is really the reason why i believe people like you and me will have to kill eachother in the future in a civil war, because you are THIS delusional.

Please do the right thing, hang yourself tonight. No more abortion talk from you.

A1 is just ketchup with more seasoning.

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If the democratic platform is abortions until birth, what is the difference? 24weeks has a 50% viability rate and it only get higher from then on.

Didnt proofread so lots of typos. Durr you have no arguments so lets talk about typos ;) ;) ;)

You fucking lie.

Have fun getting dried up before a man gives you a chance, whales.

The pig or cow on your dinner plate had more sentience a few hours after it was born than pretty much any human fetus

Moderate here. Fuck all the right wing idiots that are anti abortion. Anyone with a thought of not wanting to raise a child shouldn't have the child. Chances are good that it's a minority, that wont get adopted, that will drain tax dollars via social programs, the same social programs right wingers want to do away with because they cost too much. Seriously go fuck yourselves, abortion saves money, if it's not for you dont have an abortion.

The argument is that women take responsibility for their fucking Giners' and act like adults. Practice safe sex not getting pregnant over and over again like a dumb whore and wanting the government to help

You can’t get life insurance on a kid the day after they are born.

I guess that proves they aren’t human.

Retard.

Insurance qualifications are better than scientific facts.
Fucking tard

Life insurance for newborns: lifeant.com/faq/best-life-insurance-baby/

8ball?

Sperm has human cells, has human dna, is a human. great logic

You do realize part of the issue is that Republicans are also actively trying to ruin any access to the things that make safe sex possible as well, right?

It doesn't you fucking brainlet. It has spermatazoa and dna.
Pick up a fucking book or a gun and make a decision

Smart user is actually smart, sorry you're arguing against Anti-Choice dorks.

Women birth control hasn't been an issue in a long time . Planned Parenthood and every single sex clinic has free contraceptives.
You just won't accept responsibility and neither will women these days. Grow up you've been in society a long time now.

>It doesn't you fucking brainlet. It has spermatazoa and dna.
I.
Holy shit this is so stupid it's hilarious.

Sperm is not human
It takes a combination of egg and sperm to make human to back to elementary

>WTF I love Planned Parenthood now

>$100+ for birth control
>Sex-Ed constantly getting fucked by Republicans
>Sex-Ed seriously lacks information about women
>Thinks condoms are all you need

Virgin and brainlet, neat.

You're welcome.
Please take responsibility as an adult and practice safe sex.
That's it, women cant handle it

You can just pull out too. As well as a condom. Try getting pregnant . Just try

Learn sex ed from multiple sources . Teach your children and society will follow with time

Democracy in a nutshell. At least one more party would change the landscape of what had to be agreed upon to some extent

Mate, it literally has 23 human chromosomes, otherwise it wouldn't produce a human zygote - it's a human gamete, you dork.
My sides are in the fucking Kuiper Belt.

A gamete is not a human
You're fucking sides are in your ass

le both sidez roflxd

>blames "kikes"
>Centrism
I mean, I know centrism gets equated to retardation often but...

Why are Americans so retarded? Your picture doesn't even make sense. Obama isn't president. Planned parenthood SAVES children, and republicans are trying to be rid of it. You're so backwards and delusional. Are you trying to imply abortions are the same are murdering children? If so, you shouldn't have dropped out of high-school you redneck fuck.

I hate America so much. You are the most retarded dumbfucks on the planet.

Hypocrite

7 months cut off for choosing.

up to the day of birth for if the woman is in serious danger from some kind of complication.

That said, you have no idea how ridiculously rare and dangerous "late term" abortion is. It basically never fucking happens unless something is very, very wrong health-wise.

I maintain from a egalitarian and utilitarian standpoint that the woman has far more value than the fetus or even the infant. She can still have more later and she's a contributing member of society already.

It's actually a very simple and logical stance.

Republicans: It's okay to put thousands of children in cages and turn them into orphans.

Also republicans: Hurr durrr.... abortion bad. God say no! Think of childs. HURRRR!

It's 90% worchestershire sauce.

It's a human gamete, much like how horse sperm would be equstrian gametes.
We really need to do something about all this lead you're somehow consuming.

In what way is he a hypocrit? lol you don't even know what that word means, obviously.

dumb fuck OP

It takes 2 gametes to make a human

Do I really have to explain this?

No one's platform is abortions 'until birth' that's not even physically possible. You clearly don't know WHAT AN ABORTION IS or HOW IT WORKS, let alone what A FETUS IS.

Fuuuuuuuck America. You should have stayed in highschool maaaaaan. You dumb as shit.

They ran out of things to say. They have no real points afterall. They just won't accept adult responsibility.
It's a refusal to grow up

Again, my sides have left the solar system.

Can you define "liberals" because I highly doubt any of you know what it means.

Case in point

Go on. Try to explain it. It will be hilarious to see you fail.

Please, continue. I am a biologist and I would love to see you try and explain to me why you think a fetus is a person.

[America is experiencing a Fundementalist Evangelical virus, please standby as we resolve it]

>it's a refusal to do what I want them to
>I am the boss and arbiter

Mate, you're retarded or a narcissist, sorry all I can do is laugh as you flail this fucking poorly.

Fail RP

Why not?

Over 90% of abortions in general.
NOT over 90% of late term abortions.

Almost all abortions in the third trimester are for medical reasons relating to the viability of the child or the life of the mother.

First and second trimester abortions are harmless. The child is incapable of sensation until roughly 30 weeks, when the nervous system is finally complete and operational.

I don't see a moral issue with stopping a child from coming into a world unwanted when it is incapable of suffering from that decision.

...

The cool Americans should come over to Australia. The Trumptards aren't welcome though, and will be shot on sight.

Yes. We do have guns. I know your Fox Propaganda would have you believe otherwise. We just have gun control. Guns still exist.

Not a single person here has anything but extreme hate for Trumptards, except one fat fuck billionare who is trying to copy him, but he got literally 0 votes this election.

> I absolutely refuse to clean my fucking disgusting putrid giner and will let everyone can dumpster me! No one can say anything bad because I'm opressed and it's my rghyte! I'm gonna have 25 fetuses and scrap them all . All because I have zero self control as a human being, I barely have a conscious

Projection

The Red states are poorer and worse of than even the most Spic-y state though?

Good talk.

You have nothing. Seriously, it's not too late to go back to school. Just pick up a book and maybe the 'HURR AARGHH libtards' will start making sense, once you have a basic understanding on how the world works.

Also, stop watching Fox you dumb ass.

It's a retarded propaganda lie/meme from our right, which collectively has a single-digit IQ.

Inagine being a conservative on Yea Forums just to "own libtards". Most of you are not even real conservatives. Under real conservatism your fathers would beat the shir out of you pathetic virgin incels for being a waste of oxygen

Why are all left "memes" so long and drawn out? Understandably unfunny, but always tl;dr

>When your attention span is too short for a comic with more than 9 words.

oddly specific

You poor misguided abortionist folks. May the universe have mercy on your souls.
I know most of us wouldn't

Kys

Nobody cares about your opinion, your existence is as inconsequential as that of a fetus.

nah my mom gave birth
Good luck in the next life

You get a single point for not resorting to Ben Garrison level retardation, but this is still really fucking stupid.

Because how could it be good idea to have responsibility?
You're a joke
You are all children.you'll grow up some day .

>Part of the horde that can't conceptualize responsibility for the things you say.
>Trying to act like the mature adult
This thread has given me enough laughs for a lifetime holy shit.

>why is the team that opposes my team so awful? don't they realize that the world is purely black and white and if you're not right then you're clearly wrong? that's what my chosen news & media vehicle pumps into my atrophied brain, anyway. grrr those louuuusssy {shit political party} - why can't they just get out of the fucking way and let {other shit political party} do what's RIGHT for {country}

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I feel pity for you, you Evangelicals may have ruined Christianity itself.

Yeah they are but I was using the worst possible number and it still pales in comparison to the number of abortions.

Yes to everything, less restriction. Just illustrating that using >death as a reason to ban guns is disingenuous. Especially when you try to drag children into it.

Fuck yeah. New mexico is best mexico

God, Australia sounds fucking great right about now.