But really

You're so gay.

what is an assault rifle tho

>2019
>banning abortion in the US.

Talk about some serious regression. You'd normally expect this from fucked up sharia countries.

Because one is a constitutional right. One is not.

>teaching children about fucking and providing them with condoms reduces unwanted pregnancies, according to this bullshit study I read in the Huffington Post or some other nonsense rag!

Cool story. Doesn't matter.

Abortion (certainly past the first term) is murder of a baby. 'b-but I don't like Republicans and their sex education policies' is not an argument against this.

But conservatives are unironically correct that the breakdown of sexual morals has led to societal decline. Pregnancy is nature's way of preventing women from being disgusting thots. The ability to kill unborn babies without consequence is one that shit slinging monkeys were never meant to have.

Society SHOULD control womens baser instincts, and mens. That's what a society is for.

You actually believe it's up for debate that a fetus is alive, yet you personify the opposition as ignorant of science?

There are many reasons why abortion is wrong in every facet of it aside from keeping poor people from leeching off of state resources. The government doesn't do anything because if 'your feelings'. They decide based on utility. Abortion isn't a right. In fact, it's the decision over another life, and ending that life by abortion is legalized murder by definition.

You must be a fem bitch pandering to people that you believe will rush to your aid and confirm that you're still right and on the side of justice by telling what you want to hear.

Or this thread is just here to piss people off by challenging two well defeated arguments.

Or this thread is here by some degree of seriousness. Both arguments proposed are well defeated, and implicating a default victory to both at the same time doesn't qualify both to lie in the same spectrum of moral arguments. You're using multiple fallacies all at once either because you've latched onto the snowflake-Obama-esque era of arguments or because your simple mind doesn't know any better.

Do some work and get to reading up on Constitutional law.

The only reason for abortion is because no one wants shitty people with no concept of personal finance leeching off of the welfare system.

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Abortion should be ended through Thoughts & Prayers.

It worked for school shootings, it will work for this, too.

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but the jews have secret motivations.

It's common knowledge. Facts don't care about your feelings.

Point proven. Every argument about abortion eventually devolves into you fuckers admitting you just don't want women to have choices.

>ending that life by abortion is legalized murder by definition.

Nope.

>another straw man
>all right wingers are one person

Wow keep it up

You redneck, science tells us if a homo sapien can't breath without medical intervention, they aren't alive

oops

>according to this bullshit study I read in the Huffington Post or some other nonsense rag!

So you read it somewhere, you don't know where, but it angered you-- and it's really truly true and not something you just pulled out of your ass.

This isn't remotely correct.

>science tells us

That wasn't "science." I don't know who told you that.

It's probably a "fact" you made up yourself.

>common knowledge

It's literally a baseless assertion that isn't even relevant.

Are you even literate? Who do you think you're responding to?

Hoes mad

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0024658&utm_campaign=partner&utm_medium=readMore&utm_source=AOL

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1054139X07004260

tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19325037.2001.10603497

>they always seem to favor "abstinence only" education, which is associated with a higher rate of unwanted pregnancies

I assume you're under 18, otherwise you'd have realised by now that 95% of statistical studies are bunk

If one person can provide a logically sound and scientific reason that they (an adult) aren't a clump of cells, i'll go pro choice here and now

but I am

638,000 vs 1200

Hmmmm

a better question:
>why did it take so long to make it a crime to kill a living human?

See
Also, you're still missing the point

The sex education argument DOESN'T MATTER. You can't argue on the actual facts - that abortion is murder of babies - so you obfuscate and change the subject.

show tits and close your legs roastie

because abortion it's all about murdering innocent babies.

assault rifles may be used to murder criminals.

>95% of statistical studies are bunk
Even this one? Kek.

>how did a law I don't like get passed before a law I would like?

Above all else, liberals are insufferably arrogant, thinking they are truly moral and everyone who doesn't agree is literally evil.

?

You clowns are so focused on your 'natural rights' which are mostly mulled over by philosophers with no actual legal backing and you're comparing it to something which has an amendment on the US Constitution. That's why. So, guess you have two choices here: 1. Continue being a Russian bot and nurture your fucked mutually exclusive guns v abortion argument to fuck the confused and divided voters. 2. Start pushing for a constitutional amendment for abortion rights. You'd need the Senate on board but there are ways of doing that. 3. Fucking grow up.

You can have sex without having children.

All things you do have consequences. even choosing to do nothing.

A woman can choose what to do with her body. She chose to get filled with cum, an action that comes with the risk of having a child. She accepted the risk and lost. Same with the man. He accepted the risk and has to take care of said child. He could've also chosen to not come inside her.

Both people it takes to produce a child has full responsibility for said child from the moment of conception until they're 18. If you don't want the child, take action to prevent pregnancy in the first place.

>I want to live in a world where sexual degeneracy without consequence is the norm

Such progress!

Because my right to protect myself is more important that a womans right to kill her unborn child, to those particular legislators.

>Every argument about abortion eventually devolves into you fuckers admitting you just don't want women to have choices

No, no, you dumbass, no. Abortion is murder, AND women shouldn't be thots. Both are true, but the former is more important.

Either you're being dishonest or you lack critical thinking skills. Let me spell out for you why it matters.

Someone who believes abortion is murder would want measures that would reduce abortion. Abortion is the result of unwanted pregnancies. So it follows that reducing unwanted pregnancies would reduce abortions. Sex education reduces teen pregnancy rate(see ), and therefore reduces abortions. So people who oppose abortions should be in favor of sex education.

However, people who oppose abortion are often not in favor of sex education (not true in every case, but it's fairly common). This is because they actually just don't want women having sex freely. They want women to be punished for being "slutty." They don't give a shit about the baby after its born, they only want it to be a punishment for having sex.

"This statistic I just made up says statistics are bullshit."

TIRED: Controlling guns
WIRED: Controlling women's bodies
Welcome to the Supreme Nation

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Idk why you bother. These idiots aren't capable of rational thought (or they're posting in bad faith and trolling you).

Like who the fuck thinks abortion before the second tri is murder? Only right wing religious nut bags. You can't convince people like that, they still believe Jesus is coming back in their lifetime...

If its all about murder and not about controlling women, why do anti-abortion laws routinely exempt destruction of IVF embryos outside the body? Destruction of unused embryos is a regular part of the IVF process, but no one cares about those "murdered babies". Wonder why?

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Yeah IDK why I waste my time.

But I didn't cite any statistics.

>I want to live in a world where people can't enjoy sex freely and where sexual mistakes are brands for life in the name of a non aware clump of cells.

Such progress!

These sort of lies disguised as logic are fun. If, then, but, who, how, tadaaa!

>no one cares about those "murdered babies

The Catholic Church has railed against this for years.

an unused embryo does not a baby make dumdum

>However, people who oppose abortion are often not in favor of sex education

a) citation needed
b) still doesn't address that abortion is murder
c) stop trying argue with some all encompassing meta-Conservative and address the points presented to you.

And finally
d) they oppose handing condoms out to children because they *honestly believe that abstinence is the best way to prevent unwanted pregnancies*. You can argue about whether or not they are correct but you can't claim they have secret evil motivations on this basis.

it's very inclusive

As a woman, i agree with banning abortion. Its not about punishing women for having sex, its about protecting precious life from being sacrificed for someone's comfort after a dumb choice.

You chose to have unprotected sex, you get a baby. Deal with it, whore.

Defending 'women's rights' on the internet doesnt raise your chances of getting laid, btw

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>a child is a brand for life

Are you mentally ill?

>a world where people can't enjoy sex freely

You mean like 99.999% of human existence?

not an argument

Some do. And many embryos don't go to term regardless of the method of fertilization dipshit.

Congratulations, OP. This is the most soy shit I’ve read today. Tell your wife’s boyfriend to treat you to the next Smash Bros game for this masterful display of faggotry.

Tits×tamp or gtfo

>As a woman
Tits or GTFO

Also, I hope you end up having to a carry an unviable fetus to term. Enjoy dealing with that heartbreak. Holding your baby for 2-5 secs then watching it die.

You have the reading comprehension of a goldfish. If you agree that abortion is murder, then you should support sex ed because it results in fewer murders!

>muh clump of cells

Objectively false presupposition. Early first trimester this maybe can be argued but certainly 2nd trimester afterwards that is a BABY.

Terrorists and psychos can't wait when guns will be unavailable - they will switch to assault trucks, poisons, explosived and so on - generally methods that are harder to prevent, detect, counter, and are more deadly

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>I have a huge cuck porn file. Its all I think about.

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I literally addressed this point directly you absolute brainlet.

People who support abstinence education do so because they believe proper implementation will reduce unwanted pregnancies.

And therefore reduce abortions too.

They might be incorrect. But that's what they believe.

Why wouldn't terrorist use those things now if they are harder to prevent and detect?

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Aaaand he proves it by posting cuck porn. Awesome.

You’re directing your trigger attack at the wrong person faggotron. I’m not the jackass momposting on fucking Yea Forums.

Very progressive, such empathy, much advocacy for women

I hope your wife leaves you for a tranny

Because more children's life got cut short due to abortions in the last 5 years compared to maniacs with assault rifles.

Two can play this game. We both know that assault rifles need an accomplice to commit murder.

CURRENT YEAR AD: alt-wite Yea Forumstards rail against degeneracy and sex outside marriage when not fapping to lolis and traps.

So learning that they're wrong about this should make them support sex education in order to stop the murder. Why isn't spreading this info a higher priority? Lives are at stake.

1. They lazy - killing with gun is easier (no need for preparations)
2. They want to die like a martyr
3. They dont care about their life, prosecution and consequences after they commit an attack is the last thing they worry abour
4. After simple truck useful idiots will not call for banning assault trucks - disarming you is in the enemys favour

Sure cuck obsessive. Keep telling yourself that.

I have blacked stuff if you are interested

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>”I literally cannot stop sucking dicks.”
This is you. This is how you talk.

You seem to know a lot about how terrorists work. Mr. FBI please log this poster's IP for further investigation.

>No babby if you no have secks
>It's wrong !

Do you believe in Jesus or what? I'm having trouble understanding your thought process.

>I have blacked stuff
No shit.

Because we have the right to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. It will be sad times if rifles are ever banned

>write something
>claim someone else wrote it

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Guilty as charged for using logic and common sense
I just reported myself

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yes shit
Imagine the smell

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Worst humble brag ever

why blacks can't progress without white people?

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You can't stop kids from having sex. That's why abstinence only education doesn't work. If you tell a kid there's no way to prevent pregnancy other than abstinence, they won't bother with birth control. You can stop (a lot of) them from getting pregnant if you teach about safe sex.

no really - let's concentrate on the tool that was used, not on the person that uses the tool

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Yeah, we should all just have gay sex tbh

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What is a false dilemma?

>Durrr uh gun sittin in sumonez house iz worst thin uh woman gettin uh baby ripped outta herz cunt...durrr

Pic related - it's OP.

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>As a woman
Yeah no way a woman said this

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Kek. Dubs of truth.

Paranoia must be rough. That soy must be fucking with your brain.

because murder is already illegal, it just took idiots realizing babies are people and its still murder.

after guns will be illegal and some mass shooting will happen we will imprison only the gun
gun will be locked in a damp locker with couple of BLACK BBC rifles for the next 25 years

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Death count:
Guns: 12,000 per year
Abortions: 330,000 per year

Pretty straightforward.

Also, rifles are almost never used in shootings. It's 99% handguns. If you wanna advocate for handguns being banned, maybe you have an argument, but rifles have been used in, like, 10 shootings ever. Out of thousands.

bingo.

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Th'fuq you on about now chowderhead?

Isn't that the whole gun control argument though ?
You can't stop maniacs from getting guns . You can prevent accidental murders by practicing gun safety .
Are suggesting that argument is valid ?

I know many, many older women that believe this.

They generally don't use the internet, though.

It really is just about some people looking at it like "Why the fuck would you kill your baby, you selfish bitch?"

>imma just write stupid shit and pretend it means something

Abortion is not muder, idiot.

>so they'd support sex education IF it could be conclusively proved to reduce unwanted pregnancies

Some would. Others would not, because its already conclusively proved that not having sex means you can't have an unwanted pregnancy. Funnily enough for thousands of years women managed to avoid getting pregnant out of wedlock or face being an outcast in society.

Yeah I actually support gun ownership for these reasons.

/thread.

A legal gun owner with a firearm sitting in his home doesn't result in death - unless a criminal breaks into their home with ill intent. An abortion ends a human life with malicious intent. OP is a typical uneducated far left inbred knuckle dragging imbecile.

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you smart whiteboi you probably thinking about shooting your school

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...

Depends on how you define it. Is it alive? Is it a person? Then killing it is murder.

The question isn't "Is it murder?" The question is "Is it a person?" And on that it's split. Some people think "If we leave it alone, it'll become a person" is a good enough argument for personhood. Others believe that it's simply not a person until it crosses a specific threshold of development.

I've known women to organize funerals for their miscarriages. My own grandmother had 2 (8 surviving children) that she had service and burial for. I've also known women that had multiple abortions before the age of 20. One kind of woman certainly has a lot more dignity, than the other.

It literally is though. Would you support an abortion of a healthy child the day before the due date? No sane person would, because its obvious that is a baby. So the question becomes not if a fetus is a human life, but when it becomes one.

In most places you can get an abortion right up to the end of the second trimester. A child can be born at that age and be have overwhelmingly positive odds for surviving. It seems self evident that aborting at this age is wrong.

There is no moral argument for allowing the murder of unborn children.

A black rifle apparently.

Did you know:
the prison population is largely assault "people".

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The same reason the 530 people who were murdered in Chicago in 2018 don't matter.
Since 2000 or 2003, 550 people nationally have been killed in "mass shooting"
The same reason pro life supporters, don't ever think about reforming the foster system.

Because our deaths don't matter until it reinforces the agenda of someone insulated from the problem in their high castles.

Good. We need a higher future crime rate due to all the unwanted children.

My religion is abortionist.
Poof.
Now it's a constitutional right

>I'll pretend I'm black and post more cuck shit. That will show em.
Seriously, get some help. You're obsession with black men's dicks is sad and disturbing.

You’re not getting the last word in, fuckface.

Wrong thread then. It was about why guns are banned but abortion isn't.

Personally I'm not against abortion. I believe it's more cruel to live life as an unplanned/unwanted child rather than not living. You can't suffer if you don't exist.

Minors having sex is a complicated matter. There are theories that the more you introduce children to sex earlier and explaining it as "natural" it kinda forces them to get sexualized earlier due to thinking they should do it to be "normal".
Child mentality is really malleable, hence the strict laws around child care and specialized approaches in child development.

...say what?

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Lmao. Almost like you mean that bs

because changing the constitution is much more difficult than changing some sketchy law on killing babies.

guns are a constitutional right, abortion violates the infant's constitutional rights. why is this so hard for leftists to understand?

Pro choice.

Why? Not my vagina. Not my choice.
If some slut wants to kill a baby thats her problem and honestly that kid would be way better off dead anyway.

He says you love cocks so much faggot.

Assault "person"

Pro gun.
Why? I'm not in school anymore, if some asshole wants to kill a bunch of innocent children, his problem. Nobody is sad while dead

you should too - it's the future

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so you agree we shouldn't let muslim refugees comes into our country and influence our beautiful country right? right

To lower the nihilism for logic or a second

Think horseshoe theory about the political movements, now remember that these people elected in power have either not been in touch with social issues for decades since election, or grew up with enough money to never be in touch with the populace and think blanket bans fix the problem.

A statistically miniscule number of people die to mass murderers. But they're automatically more important to my friends who died of gang violence, drugs, or car accidents.

Abortions are a sign of economic instability for women, a bad social service system, and the horrid state of US sex education. I am pro life for some very personal reasons. But I don't want to ban abortion because muh morality. I want reform to child services, the adoption network, and sex education.

But since it won't actually happen I sit on these boards and be REALLY depressed about my personal experiences.

Murder is defined, by law, as the unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. Given that we have justification, it is not murder. Given also that it is not unlawful (at least until recently, and only in a select few states), it is not murder.
Disregarding these two points, a blastocyst or embryo is not a human being. It has the potential to become one. But then, killing the potential for something is not the same as killing the result of that potential. Just because I take away someone's ability to, say, be a doctor, does not mean that I murdered that version of them. It follows such that an abortion before the mass of cells is considered human is not murder.
So we come to the conundrum of defining a human being, and I'm willing to concede that we should consider a fetus a human being. Not a zygote, not a blastocyst, not a morula, not an embryo. A fetus. None of the earlier stages of development even come close to humanity and it therefore cannot be argued that they are human. A fetus is defined by the development of organs, which typically begins around the end of the third month.
So, it's not murder until it's a fetus. Before then, it should be legal.

watch out, you don't want to confuse their circuitry, they might malfunction again.

This argument can be used for why people shouldn't have access to guns, cars, or fast food. Try again.

This

Good post in bad bread.

Assault weapons were never legal in my lifetime and abortion is murder. The left is losing its mind.

The 2nd amendment is there to have the ability to overthrow the government. An amendment based on America's past of overthrowing a government.

There's nothing wrong with assault rifles, if a deranged madman/woman has an assault rifle and is trying to kill someone, a good doer with an assault rifle can counter that. You can't justify killing babies for the sake of being irresponsible and uneducated about practicing safe sex or refusing to be abstinent. Abortion should only be used in the rare cases where the child was conceived through either rape or incest. All other cases, don't want kids, don't have sex

Posts tits or stfu neckbeard

Now seems like a good time to exercise the right to overthrow the government. You pussies won't do it though. You enjoy getting fucked by the orange man and being the laughing stock of the world. Lol - you guys even apologised to Iran today. Fucking useless cunts...

Seconded.
Also my money my choice. I should have no financial responsibilities in a choice I have no say in.