If you support abortion beyond the 1st trimester...

Check out the level of delusion here. Don't forget your meds.

really though, too many retards who have kids "out of love" but they don't get married first? plain stupid

>who can insult better

It's really important everyone knows you aren't a repetitive trolling moron

>hating and controlling women

Nice boogeyman fallacy. I think it's more likely people are actually looking at you like the fucking nutters you are

This

if you are "pro life" you have zero right to support the death penalty.
>a life is a life, right?

>seething

He is right. Look where you are

>Arguing from assumption
please reformat and try again

>dude fam lol

He's not though. This is not and has never been about "controlling women."
Ever.
It's about whether or not you are considered a human being while you're inside the womb and a woman's "right" to kill a child because she doesn't want it.

Deflect more.

>everyone who thinks I am stupid is wrong

Thats one possibility

>not an argument
>still seething

an unborn child has the right to be born, and prove himself in life. Some assfuck who murdered 2 people does not deserve to live any longer. Do you see the difference?

He is. Until its out, you're attempting to regulate a body that isn't yours and doesn't affect you at all. Both of these things are true.

It's a fetus. Children breathe and cry

No, I'm attempting to keep somebody from taking the life of another person just because they haven't been born yet.
See the hilarious thing is, if I abort my child, as a man, by giving her the ol' Falcon Punch, it's murder.
If she goes out and has a doctor mercilessly suck it out with a vacuum cleaner until there's nothing left? She's a hero. What a war on women!
More like a war on babies.

I am just imagining some chuckling group of idiots saying "okay new guy, you have to troll abortion"

Okay an unborn fetus then. Doesn’t change my argument, your reasoning is stupid

>fetus
human fetus, which is still... a human child.
You can try to mince words but it won't work for you. I'm just dying for you to call them a parasite so I can prove in front of everybody how fucking stupid you are.
Unironically kill yourself if you're so concerned about overpopulation you nigger-tier piece of shit

>imagining
Yep, you sure are bud.

See. You're obviously just pissed someone has any more control over anything than you. Those other people affect your life zero. You aren't concerned for their quality of life, you just want to cry for privaleges

>Nice boogeyman fallacy
THAT is the trump handbook of politics.
Obama not a citizen
hillary email
the murderers coming across the border /
everything is a bogey man that "only I can fix"
and you tards
EAT
IT
UP
Just like the evangelicals

Suckers.
so stupid, you don't even know you've been conned.

It shows how you pander to your own opinion

No it is an actual boogeyman. You are deflecting away from the actual argument by pointing out a completely nonexistent nonissue.

It doesn't get any more dishonest than that. If you have to lie, your position is untenable by default.

You lose.

You should probably stop and self-inflect on your own words.

>>Arguing from assumption

MOST pro life dickheads (you I presume) are pro death penalty.

>please reformat and try again
NO

No it's a fetus. You can't "abort a child". Different words exist for a reason.

You're welcome to prove a fetus isn't parasitic since you're hot about it

You’re still arguing from assumption buddy. When you’re argument is based on facts, come back to me. Stop justifying murder

read what you wrote again
>nothing to say

Nice non argument.
Reformat and try again.
>Protecting unborn humans means you're just mad you're not in control!
Yeah you caught me. It couldn't be that or the flagrant double standards and hypocrisy surrounding this bullshit. Yeah it's all about control.

Delusional woman detected. Just a heads up: if you abort, you will probably regret it.

Like I said to you or another user, it doesn't matter. You guys can mince words if you wish. It is completely ineffective against me. I know how to read between the lines.

“Again I saw all the oppressions that are done under the sun. And behold, the tears of the. oppressed, and they had no one to comfort them! On the side of their oppressors there was power, and there was no one to comfort them. And I thought the dead who are already dead more fortunate than the living who are still alive. But better than both is he who has not yet been and has not seen the evil deeds that are done under the sun. - Ecclesiastes 4:1-3

They exist purely to alleviate consciences. That's it.

>Nothing to say
Yeah I extrapolated that from your previous post.
You have said nothing of substance the entire time you have been here.

>keep repeating the same lines, because of all of my varied views on the topic

>not an argument
You're tiring. I can tell I'm dealing with a pseud.

It's actually for clarification when explaining something to someone unable to physically observe

>same lines, insult, no explanation or point

It's really not. A human fetus is still a human. It is an unborn child.

Keep trying to mince words.

so, it's YOU who gets to decide what life is sacred?
YOU decide that a person cannot be rehabilitated, but at the same time KNOW an unborn child "has the right to prove HIMself (guess you are a male) in life" and might not turn out to be a murderer you would put on death row.

>still peddling the same nonargument

haha holy shit, do you not see the hypocrisy in your own post?
You, the faggot advocating for abortion, is talking about who gets to decide what life is sacred?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY FUCKING LOL

It's actually a fetus. People who went to medical school vs wasting their time posting troll threads agree

Yep. A human fetus. An unborn child.
Keep mincing words.

>still proving getting the last word by repeating troll lines is the objective

Why are you here again? You're not arguing the topic of the thread, you're just shitposting and accusing others of trolling.
Kill yourself

You’re literally doing the same thing? You’re saying that an unborn child doesn’t have the right to prove themself? But someone who is a murderer deserves a second chance, while unborn babies don’t deserve a single chance?

Just a fetus. You're the drama mamma that has to keep adding "unborn child".

Its actual "undeveloped, non viable fetus"

>You are deflecting away from the actual argument by pointing out a completely nonexistent nonissue.
you are clueless..

Yes I am. It's up at the top but OP hasn't been able to get over being called wrong for 50 posts

another logical fallacy with zero argument or substance
What a surprise!

True. He is literally doing the same thing

>wah you're wrong go fuck yourself!!!

That's not winning the debate, fyi. It's just being a whiny faggot. Nobody has actually debunked anything OP has said, because they can't.
The only argument against what OP said is literally trying to play words (IE "fetus" in place of "child", as if people were calling unborn human children "fetuses" prior to the 20th century (well, the Romans were but then again "fetus"just means "pregnancy, childbirth" LOL

Keep on though!

read:

educate yourself or cry more, idgaf

being this mad

>When you’re argument is based on facts
it's your

And it is.
It's not an "assumption" that a majority of pro life dumb asses are pro death penalty.
MOST are also, wait for it, republican.
Not assumptions just percentages.

Come back when you can "think" outside of you narrow tunnel

>projecting this hard
>being unable to produce a counter-point this hard
sucks to be you

I can tell you don't give a fuck. You just like arguing

It's not based on facts though. You don't get to make claims and say they are facts without backing them up as facts.
You can drop the position of authority fallacy; we know you aren't an expert in any field related to the topic.

No, I like being right. Which I am.
The user arguing that it's a "fetus" and not a "child" just got absolutely btfo with a little history lesson

Keep trying to justify killing babies. Your mother would be proud. Be grateful she decided to keep you and not abort you.

Please drop your sources mr fact man. You keep claiming these are facts? Need some evidence buddy

I agree that fetuses aborted in the 2nd trimester should not be sexually abused.

It's not your body. She made the thing inside her, it depends on her to live, and she is it's guardian same as if it's born.

easy enough.

because you said so? lol

No you don't. Things are fine the way they are

What if he wanted to be aborted? His mom just reverse murdered him

Sorry I'm late for fishing trip OP. How many fish have taken the b8 so far?

Factually wrong.

WE made the thing inside of her. She carries it for 9 months. I pay for it for 18 years.
It's every much my baby as it is hers and yet I have zero say in whether my own child lives or dies. People like you would actually try to justify that, lmao.
Even if it was all 100% her, it doesn't give her the right to kill another person. If I don't want to be a dad and I kill my unborn child, it's murder. She does it with a doctor she's a hero, yadda yadda.
You just engaged in a nonargument. No wonder it seems so easy to you: you're an idiot.

How about we make a compromise? The right wants to ban abortion and get rid of anchor babies, the left wants abortion to stay legal and let them stay. So in exchange for keeping abortion legal, make abortion mandatory when someone illegally hops the border to give birth here for citizenship. What makes little immigrant babies any different from those here? If it's fine for a woman who lives here to choose to abort her kid, it's fine for an immigrant to choose to abort her kid by hopping the border.

I can tell you are pro-life just for the sake of being a white knight and trying to get laid. No one is arguing that a woman can’t do what she wants with her body. However fetus inside of her is a separate life, and if she chooses to abort it she is murdering it.

No because history said so.
Fetus is latin. It means "pregnancy, childbirth."
Note the word "childbirth"
There is no distinction between a fetus and a baby except the one you leftists have created to absolve yourselves of responsibility for murder.

You really should kill yourselves.

>having to adjust your troll to first trimester because you looked retarded trying to ban abortion, obviously not caring about any mother's quality of life or situation
>wanting people to think you're sensible now

lol

How's your schizoeffective disorder treating you pal?

If you aren't together with a slag you talk to her and both make a choice. Your shitty pick isn't a reason to change the laws for others

it's YOU not seeing the hypocrisy.
I'm pro death penalty, and pro choice.
It's YOU that is the hypocrite.
YOU think you know what life is sacred.
I'm OK with abortion, death penalty, war, whatever.But YOU "believe" a fetus is the a holy entity, when it might be the next ted bundy or the next You.
Not sure which is worse

You should be allowed to abort so long as it's still under 5 years old. Of course, I also believe you should have to apply to the government for permission to have children and the government should screen people for financial stability and base level of intelligence.

>I am going to tell myself a story about what's happening
There are many differences. Swallowing food, wearing a diaper,... its a big list.

It's always all about the women. Always.

The unborn child? Who cares. Not even human!
The father? Haha we'll just use the same argument against him we say is sexist when it's used against women and shame him into taking care of his child! And if that fails, we'll garnish his wages!
If he tries to kill the unborn child, it's murder!
So is everybody ignoring those words?
IF THE MOTHER KILLS THE BABY, IT'S JUST AN ABORTION. IF THE FATHER KILLS THE BABY, IT'S MURDER. LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO
Kill yourself you retarded faggot.

have a lot of experience with that do you?

Unironically not an argument. Isn't one of the key pro-choice arguments that you have no right to tell others how to live? lmao
can you see the hypocrisy through your self-righteous faggotry? Probably not lmao

Unironically kill yourself

God damnit really. Is this actually the way societies going? Regressing back to the with century? Noone having vaccines dying of polio while burning a woman at the stake for being accused of being a waitch oh and no sex before marriage. Literally trying to turn the west into the middle east

Sorry, i forgot to:
HAAAHAHHHAHHHHAAAAA
LOLOLOLOLOL
and call you a faggot.

Sometimes I forget /b etiquette

Not anywhere near your levels, clearly.

very mad, change rules because I'm mad!

>snowflake logic

Nah dumb shit
There's a difference between a fetus and a living breathing kid that's outside its mother

Literally what leftists do when they get beaten fair and square lol

unironically not literally actually very very triggered

There isn't though. You should educate yourself before saying such stupid things.

No its just drama groups on the internet

>unironically doesn't have an argument
>unironically projecting his insecurity onto others
>unironically unironic moronic

no u

We are progressing into the future. Hundreds of years from now our society will be looked down upon. Millions of human lives being ended before they had the chance to start. It’s tragic really.

>haha yeah I'm against those guys too!

poor dumbass

why do you right wing fucks care what people do to their bodies anyway

dont you fags want the govt out of your life?

think of the children!

idiot

so what’s the difference? Is it okay to kill a fetus the moment before it’s born? You are implying what makes human life is geographical location? Inches separate a fetus from the womb and outside.

not right, not left, just about creating upset where things were once just fine

people should be whatever they want, the government shouldnt dictate how we live.

Yes insult me because you have no counterpoints

>false equivalency

Agreed.

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Question for OP: why the first trimester? What magically happens then that is different from the preceding 3 months?

It's not false equivalency though. Imagine being this stupid but not knowing it. Dunning and Kruger would be proud of you.

nope, no expert.
Only that I actually read and can deduce (do your own research) that my opinion is based on FACTS.
My opinion is not THE fact.

Are you 12?
>that is a question, not my assertion of a fact

There will be an overwhelming amount of actual valid history and no one will care. They'll laugh about the inside out penises though.

Yes it is.

Because it is almost entirely unformed at that stage and does not resemble anything human.

So basically feminists like molesting children.

>nope, no expert.

then shut up fag

you sound like an antivaxxer

Other first world countries that can't universally be called stupid and challenged use that

there's no description here of *why* a fetus is the same as a baby, so what am I supposed to respond to?

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Your opinion isn't based on facts. Your opinion is based on snippets of information you read presented as fact that you accepted as fact without any question because they jived up with your feelings and world view.

Yikes.

If the fetus isn't viable it's not a child. 2nd trimester is totally fine and I don't see why not.

You still haven’t stated what the difference is.

Too important to call people retarded. Sorry.

What determines viability ?

Because there isn't one. He can't. All he can do is pretend that there is one.

Ive had like 3 abortions and a bunch of miscarriages. All of which im thankful for. Im a giant child i dont want to raise a fucking kid. The worlds fucking overpopulated anyway who the fuck cares if a few million get aborted. Jesus fuck life isnt that fucking sacred or scarce. Let people do what the fuck they want.

>you still haven't put effort into conversing with a dramaticist

Yes.

Till my son was born he was a parasite in my wifes body that could threaten her life and was easly disposed of in the case he was a threat. (She developed gestational diabetes from it, not full blown shes gonna die, but if she didn't take steps to keep it in check, her wellbeing and the future wellness of my son would have been impacted)
When I held him in my hands, that changed completly and I would do most anything for him.
Yes, I can have it both ways OP.
Interistingly enough I have little to no empathy for retarded people that put warning signs on everything and allow their retarded offspring to proliferate further retarding the gene pool.
Tl;dr Go neck yourself faggot.

“I’m not grown enough to take responsibility for my own actions”

A fetus is the same as a baby because it's still a human.
"fetus" is latin for "pregnancy, childbirth"
note the word childbirth.
Unborn children not being considered human is a very recent thing and even as an atheist (who voted for Obama--twice) it sickens me. I will never agree with the other dems on this issue.
I am fucking TIRED of the constant pandering to women.

not being required to be parasitic to live

When you can't actually produce an argument because there isn't one that wouldn't get scrutinized to hell and back but you just don't want to accept that you're wrong and don't have a counterpoint so you just resort to shitposting while you jerk your delicate ego off

It is actually sacred and you make the pro choicers fighting for your privalege look retarded by association

>mr fact man
never said my views were "FACTS"
you suck at reading comprehension
>can't wait to see how you misinterpret my previous statement

>not one description

>Let people commit murder against an unborn human child
>just do it goy

Nah, fuck you cunt. Kill yourself.

There is, but your response isn't magically going to become not repeating troll phrases and insulting

Whether it can survive outside the womb or not. Otherwise I think it's not fair to take away the right of the mother

Are you retarded or just deliberately ignoring where I pointed out that the word "fetus" is latin and literally just means "CHILDBIRTH"?
It has to be one or the other. Honestly I'd rather know that you're a retard. It's just more palatable to me than you being a disingenuous faggot.
Kill yourself either way lol

So its the way it looks that makes it human or not? Trying to understand

this is the most faggotist thing I've read in a long time

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>I don't like what you're saying so it's a troll!

Yikes.

>my feelings are hurt better lash out because it's anonymous!

imagine being this delicate

kill yourself

Not sure you understand my question... was asking OP why he thinks before 1st trimester is ok but after 1st is not (I'm not arguing one way or the other, trying to understand)

never said my feels were hurt - just pointing out the fact that you're gay

do you know what a description is? words are arbitrary according to your fetus/child whine

Do premature babies deserve the right to live?

>seething faggot projecting his seething faggotry

Do you know how to read at all?

shouldn't that be "faggotiest"?.... trying to understand

It was an honest response. Read the posts about vuability but when it comes down to why its a specific argument, thats it

also not a counterpoint. I'll accept your concession graciously.
Have a nice life and don't forget: abortion REALLY IS murder!

You keep making assumptions and try to slide them off as facts to justify murder

Abortion is murder.

Let's stop beating around the bush and murder the right peeps.

Premature babies don't survive outside the womb before the stage of viability.... that's why its called viability

Do you know anyone who has had an abortion?
I do.
Kid would have been born with Downs Syndrome, (somewhat like you).
She aborted, reluctantly.
FF 20 years, 4 kids all healthy, all in college, all better people than I will EVER BE.

Keep judging others dickhead
Keep "thinking" you know more than everyone else.
You are clueless.
Hopefully you are under 18 and your youth is your excuse.
If you are over 26 and your frontal lobe has fully developed, there is no hope for you.

Do you believe taking a non-viable family member off life support is murder?

words being arbitrary

you're literally just ignoring posts and repeating haha Im right no counter argument retard while the three people who actually want a description of your views get ignored

Depends. Are they clinically braindead?
If they're brain dead, certainly not. The lights are on but nobody's home at that point.

There are literally medical aspects that define wether or not it is already in place

I only disagree with one thing, the 1st trimester shouldn't be the line for when it is illegal. It should be illegal from conception.

Fetuses aren't people.
You're not a person if you can't survive outside of a womb.

if you can't understand
>never said my views were "FACTS"
You are beyond stupid

so if a fetus is not "conscious" in the way we humans know it, what differentiates that from being clinically braindead, honestly just curious on your opinion

Oh so now words are arbitrary?
Explain away then, the definition of the word fetus being "pregnancy, childbirth."
It's kind of hard to separate the fetus from the child when the fetus IS THE CHILD.
The cognitive dissonance is unreal. Imagine saying in one breath that a woman should have the right to act as judge jury and executioner for her unborn human child and in the other accusing OTHERS of not caring about kids enough
LMAO

Define conception

I literally already said that too. Genius.

Not the same at all. Someone on life support has lived a life. A fetus hasn't had the chance to live yet.
Not comparable. Nice false equivalency. I love how you tried to lead the argument there. Too bad it didn't work out for you.

When the egg is fertilized by the sperm.

So you are against in vitro fertilization too? Eggs are fertilized by sperm in a dish

If fetuses aren’t people then what are they?

>inb4 “parasite”

and people wonder why trump got elected

>inb4 exactly what they are that I can't disprove, only mock

wow

Preach it op

What makes your life more “worthy” than someone with Down’s syndrome?
And wow you know what a frontal lobe thanks bud I took 8th grade bio too

What makes having "lived a life" mean that any given organism is truly alive in the human sense at a given moment? You aren't answering this and I am just trying to understand.

lmao nice logical fallacy retard

You're leading the argument again. Stop it.
Stop changing the subject. You are NOT making any sort of valid point engaging in logical fallacy, I assure you.

Pro Choice advocates don't want people to get abortions. They want less abortions, just like everyone else. But the difference is they understand that there are hundreds of steps to take that are more effective than passing laws banning medical procedures.

Some examples: free and accessible contraception for women, medically accurate sex education taught by qualified teachers, paid maternity leave, child care subsidy, free health insurance for children and expecting mothers.

Rates of abortions increased every year the entire time they were illegal... with one notable exception: the years where the pill was introduced to market.

The problem with most Republicans isn't bad ideas - it's that they cannot commit to fixing issues the way that research and history would logically dictate. If you are truly a single issue voter on lowering abortion rates, then you should be a Democrat - because they actually put effort into lowering unwanted pregnancy. If you care about your tax money more than fetuses - then continue voting Republican.

U Didnt say shit about overpopulation tho faggot. Because the world IS overpopulated and you know it. How bout better quality of life instead of quantity of life? Like 90% of the world suffers or just sucks as a human being in general. We can do better.

Women can decide to end a fetus because it is their burden.

There is nothing more to it. Nothing makes anyone else more apt to make that choice.

I just consider abortion an act of mercy really.

If a. Om doesnt want her child that's when we see shit on the news like "mother kills/tortures child" or other really vile acts against children.
Or they grow up being neglected and turn into criminals or serial killers.

I'm sorry but if you were able to speak to me in the womb and tell me that my mother didnt want me and I'd possibly live a life or neglect or torture I'd say to just abort me before I would have experience any of that.
I honestly would rather have my life ended before I could even be fully formed and have to be brought into a world by a mother who didnt want me and will neglect me.
A child deserves to be born into this world wanted and loved. If a woman knows she cant do that then I think an abortion is the most merciful thing she can do.

AndPeople make it seen like adoption And foster care is this great and magical thing when in reality it's really fucked and twisted. I knew a guy who was adopted and his parents where tailor trash folks and he ended up a drughead.

My cousin got his kids taken away and they're in foster care and we all can only hope they're not being treated inappropriately like it so often happens.

So yea I'm all for abortion if s woman knows she wont love the child the way it deserves

Not arguing that at all.... why are you suggesting that people with Down's syndrome have less consciousness than a fetus without a developed nervous system? You are the one jumping to conclusions... I am a neuroscientist

so where is the cutoff? Where these parasites MAGICALLY transition into a life where it’s “viable”. If you can not define it i assume you are okay with late stage abortions

>You guys are always so quick to point out how Christfags and other assorted........
Biblically speaking human life does not exist prior to birth. All life is from God, and later returns to God whom gave it. The idea that a human can create life is an apostasy spread through the faith by atheistic infiltrative language, which is why the original stance of the Catholic Church on abortion was that declaring it murder was nothing short of blasphemy. This stance remained set in stone until around the 1860s when shills and secular humanists began propagating the idea socially that a fetus constituted human life and that Christians should agree to accept that as fact despite the Old Testament explicitly stating that this is not the case and the concept being reinforced in the New Testament when Christ told the Pharisee he must be Born again, not that he must be Reconceived.....

It is entirely religiously consistent within Christian Doctrine to oppose the murder of Children while not defining acts of abortion as murder. Neither is it inconsistent to behave this way in Judaism.

No I don't. Our lifestyle causes over populatiin more than our numbers. You're just picking the easiest fix

No, you fucking fruit, it's called being accountable so that you don't have to make the decision to possibly have an abortion because you didn't plan ahead

go spout your pre-rehearsed gayness on /pol/

I am asking you what being alive in the human sense means and you are failing to answer... no leading here, you just aren't answering the question. Trying to understand

You sir are a faggot.

When they can live unparasitically. Duh?

True. I totally could give less of a fuck about people doing whatever to their kids, max an cap broskini
>Do whatever, just stay off of my lawn

>What makes your life more “worthy” than someone with Down’s syndrome?
Can you not FUCKING READ!
Where did I say anything remotely close to that?!
HER decision was because she did not want to bring a child into this world knowing what it's future would be.

>thanks bud I took 8th grade bio too
yes you did. last year, apparently

breathing at least

Yeah, sorry; a fetus isn't human until its viable. Unfortunately, in 15 years, when crime rates are high due to a whole generation of kids born to people completely incapable of providing for them, the Right is going to pretend that outlawing abortions and crippling education and child protective services had nothing to do with it, so there's no use trying to convince them.

Youre arguing just to argue i hate faggot ass contrarians like you. Id fuck you in front of god and everyone. Youre prolly responsoble for 30% of the posts in this thread. Sad faggot.

This. Snowflakes just want something else they don't have access to.

mad

I agree with you wholeheartedly but please shut up, you make me seem dumb by association.

You can lop off the cortex and a person still breathes

Thats a good point

and? you know what at least means?

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Conservafags, can you explain whether someone with compatible bone marrow should or shouldn't be forced by the government to do a bone marrow transplant for a sick child?

I know what it means... just don't know how it was a relevant answer to my question

There is a lot more to it. If we're going by that metric, I'm the one who gets stuck paying for it for 18 years.
Oh yeah and there's also the whole double standard about it being murder if a father kills the child.
Unironically kill yourself for being so simple minded you dumbshit

I know you don't believe it but if you explained your actual view instead of crying murder, not an argument, then that means you also believe...

I would actually be interested. But the fact that you never provide any foundation for your opinion makes it seem like abortion regulations in place seem really valid.

Say anything that doesn't sound like trolling. Anything.

>Snowflakes
lmfao so not wanting cunts to be able to murder with impunity is being a snowflake?
Yikes. You're an embarrassment.

What question.

I provided a lot of foundation, you just didn't like it.
Go fuck yourself and don't forget to kill yourself too you disingenuous faggot.

>lmao murder cunts

who hurt you snowflake

nobody said murder cunts
and I'm pretty sure I know who touched on you lmao

So you can't. Okay.

lmao

Yea Forums takes bait like pornstar sucks cocks. Like theyre being PAID.

So in other words, you're going to come in and criticize an argument without providing any substance yourself and act indignant when someone tells you to go fuck yourself?
lmao kill yourself

lmao

the only reason you would "seem dumb"
is because you are dumb.
Me, or any other poster here, do nothing but ask questions or make statements.
The perception of your intelligence come from the things YOU say .

That's how bait works. If it was an actual discussion the thread might die

your argument was pretty shitty... why should we do all the hard work when you made a mess of things

>we

kys

Agreed

You're not doing ANY work though. You're not even making any arguments that aren't easily disproved by a five minute google search.
NONE OF YOU can actually explain why a fetus isn't a child. You're just saying it is and hoping we'll just take you at your word, lmao. Pretty intellectually lazy tbh.
You should kill yourself if you're so worried about overpopulation instead of trying to kill off people whose lives are just starting you selfish piece of shit.

samefagging this hard

telling people to go kill themselves doesn't seem very pro-life

I'm pro child-life. If you fuckers are so fucking concerned with rapid overpopulation, kill yourselves instead of people who can't defend themselves.

Selfish cowards, kill yourselves.

It depends on another body to live and isn't an individual. This has been said at least five times

Not an excuse to kill it. It's a human child, not a parasite.
Get over it.

Just to clarify, I don't actually perform the abortions... I use Planned Parenthood for that

> (You)
>>we
WE what?

See? Perfectly valid point you just stick fingers in your earsand say nu uh. Why would anyone put effort into talking to you? Not to mention your constant presumptuous "haha it already happened". It hasn't, that's why you're arguing. delusion.

i don't think anyone, if they're being honest with themselves, can draw the line once and for all between "inanimate biological matter" and "living self accumulating experiences and personality". the change is a transition which doesn't happen at any one moment--a person doesn't have a beginning. on some level it's just an irresolvable tension, and to think that it boils down to one of two opposing absolutes is a conceit. A fetus is not an organ, not a baby.

I don't accept that the problematic object in the womb really IS then what it could be in months or years to come or that there's some obligation to actualize that end. But I don't think reproduction is "just" a biological function like others to manipulate medically, and I feel very wary of any partner of mine ever being in the position of having the procedure. Which is a moot point because I am a virgin lololol

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>I don't agree with the things you say therefore you are an idiot

Good to know, moron.

Just to clarify, you should still kill yourself. I mean you can say you won't but we both know you probably will.
You won't be missed.

>no you're wrong lol

great work describing an opposing view with the effort you say you want

this is the best answer here

So you have no counter-point? Good argument lad. Glad I could prove you wrong.

It's a perfectly valid point in your opinion. In my opinion it is complete hogwash. Do we kill an 8 year old for being too dependent on its parents?
No. Do we consider children parasites? No.
You actually had no argument. Too bad you can't see it.

You don't counter people in denial. You just let them live in their own world

Have you ever considered that having to care for an unwanted baby contributes to the topics you listed ?
Maybe, it's better that the child never suffers through all that shit because you think life is precious. After all, parents were willing to kill the child so long as there was no legal repercussions.

so then you tell me why its hogwash instead of insults and false equivalencies. It's called a conversation

I think you might be the one in denial. You're trying to deny a living human being rights and a life to virtue signal like a fucking faggot.
Kill yourself.

No matter how you spin it, you're trying to justify infanticide because we're "overpopulated."
Again, if overpopulation is such a huge concern for you, kill yourself.

I already pointed out why, you completely ignored it to demand more of an argument.
I can't tell if you're just an idiot or doing it on purpose but if you tried this shit in a proper debate you would have already been declared the loser.

Nope. They just want to force changes to feel authority. It's not like they're letting immigrants live in their houses either

>They just want to force changes
not an argument, not at all what is happening. This is pure fantasy you have cooked up.
The concern is the rights of an unborn child. Trying to put words in your opponents mouths doesn't do you ANY service, fyi

you actually just made a bunch of false equivalencies. the hallmark of an abortion thread

>>I don't agree with the things you say therefore you are an idiot
sorry that was what you read into my statement.
but what i said was
>the only reason you would "seem dumb"
is because you are dumb.
Me, or any other poster here, do nothing but ask questions or make statements.
The perception of your intelligence come from the things YOU say .

I never said I thought you were dumb.
re-read my post, never said it

Supporting abortion is supporting pedophilia
Cause I'm gay

Wow so suddenly having to care for it matters?
Why doesn't it matter when a father doesn't want to be a father?
You can't justify a double standard no matter how hard you try.

>the concern is something we made up that was already figured out

Where are they then? Point them out. I'm waiting.

>doesn't even make sense on top of not being an argument

I think you're constantly playing who is better and I have yet to honestly hear a pro choice reasoning vs just their views

...

That's all anybody does when you really break it all down.

yeah quotes aren't arguments, good job

No, you disingenuous, lazy faggot.
Point them out. Explain how they false equivalencies.

I already know you can't. Scurry on now.

That wasn't a quote though you fucking retard.
Quotes don't involve changing the words around to suit a narrative.
Are you this dishonest all the time? Or just when you take an untenable position?

pro choicers have given reasoning, strong or not. I just want to hear one pro lifer reasoning

when every post is false equivalent, insult, murder, not an argument it just makes the view behind it blatantly mischievous

Yeah, it was a quote. You don't see yourself the way you are

>I just want to hear one pro lifer reasoning
This is where you betray your true intentions; that, or you can't fucking read. Not sure which.

That's a real waste of time. The challenge to my adequacy is getting old.

No, it wasn't a quote. You PARAPHRASED.
Fucking lol. Aren't you that fucktard who was talking about learning what words mean earlier?
lol dumbass kys

How can I challenge what doesn't exist?

You aren't the person I responded to

You realize that you aren't the sole caretaker of the child right? And that financially contributing isn't being a parent? And that it would be illegal for you to "abort" the baby because you literally cannot do that safely without her consenting to it? You should have every right to relinquish parental rights of a child you don't want and not be forced to pay child support, but you, can't just decide to have an abortion because the actual fetus is not physically inside of you.

It's a quote. Being delusioned as you are must make it seem different

>It's actually based on medical reasoning and life quality

fancy that

why are you?

So you're retarded and in denial about it, got it.
You paraphrased for future reference. You won't acknowledge that you didn't know what you were talking about but now you do so there's no excuse.

You
Cannot
Abort
A
Baby
Not
In
Your
Body
Jesus fucking christ why is that so difficult to comprehend

Great, then stop trying to force men to pay for children.
Once you do that, you'll stop being a hypocritical piece of shit.

Kill yourself btw

You guys have really let yourselves go

That does not justify the double standard of it only being murder if the father isn't ready.
At all. I can tell you just aren't that smart.

stop putting children in women you can't trust genius

Isn't that the same argument that's 'sexist' when it's used against women?
How about you just go kill yourself you hypocritical fucktard?

phew I am glad you told yourself all that stuff, you may have actually had to think you were dumb

>literally desperate, nothing to say
It's been a pleasure mentally molesting you with facts and logic.

>no I shouldn't have to be responsible!

kek

Oh so in other words it's okay to absolve one parent of responsibility but not the other?

Kill yourself retard.

You should also say you have an ice cream sundae and are eating it

I can agree with this

>so false equivalency?

kek x2

a lot of us do

Literally not a false equivalency you fucking retard.

>666
yeah I bet you do satan

Okay, explain it out. Nobody bump the thread to death while he does this

No. You claimed it was a false equivalency.
Back up your own argument.

I mean if you read it it's a pretty earnest reasoning to abortion.
Bringing unloved and unwanted kids into this world is way more harmful to everyone than simply aborting them

There's no explanation on how "oh so you're saying" something I didn't say. If it isn't false explain it. Entire thread is waiting. I think abortion is fine where it is but maybe you're on to something with child support. Women changing socially doesn't change where a fetus is grown but it might change support responsibility. If you can get over this emotional hurdle, please explain

No, no, no. Stop being a lazy disingenuous cunt.
YOU made the claim, YOU back it up.
That's how a debate works, kid.

Do you fucking reply to every thread with that same moving the goalposts faggot response? Are you the same fag who keeps posting it? Or did some famous faggot recently say that and now you have to regurgitate it every 30 seconds?

Whatever idiot. It's no wonder you have to make these stupid threads every day. You never see a pro choice thread because it would be "yep, that sounds reasonable". I actually give you my attention, explain what I need and why, and you can't help stucking in another insult because that's all these threads are for

>every exactly the same repeated thread that has to be posted because of how many people /don't / agree

>we tried saying it was wrong, looked completely fucking retarded, and moved the goalposts to the first trimester because that's what the uk does and you literally can't murder something that can't live on it's own

>Can't back up his own claims
>Calls others an idiot
What's it like being this retarded?

PS it gives me a RAGING stiffy to know that there are a bunch of butthurt cunts in here, right now, getting absolutely BTFO

You are wrong, they can affect your life if its your child which means they control your body...

>not an argument: the post
Your butthurt is showing. Why does it rustle your jimmies so much that somebody says a human being is a human being?

You should kill yourself only do it unironically.

Another brainwashed dem who project what his party does onto the other party...

I hope someone swats your faggot ass and you get shot and killed answering the door of your parents house in your underwear.

Says a clueless idiot....

They know that. They don't care.
It's either some retarded male feminist or an actual female feminist. If it's the latter it really is all about them.

I wonder if maybe raising all these little sluts up to believe they don't have any responsibilities and teaching them that they're princesses had something to do with the sheer level of entitlement observed in the modern western woman?

>thread is over
>obviously went one way
>no one is here anymore
>but I mist get the last word and let them know how superiorly amused I am!

lol all two raging inches

Libs are more prone to be in abusive relationships anyway. Just look at their platform

>seething rage

see THIS is how you know prople are getting btfo or whatever wouldnt it be btfu?

>s e e t h i n g
>dude fam

just sad broski

>being this mad
>being unable to just let it go
>keep rambling on about "getting the last word in" while actively trying to get the last word in
lol@urlife

agree but what's that mean?

run out of your own material?

Come on guys, one more shit spam?

Nope just pointing out how fucking stupid you sound complaining about "getting the last word" while actively trying to accomplish the same.
Self-reflection isn't a strong suit of yours, I take it?

I hope the prople bring pitchforks and torches to your tin-metal shack in Moldova and burn your bitch-ass corpse after stabbing you to death.

you call it shit spam, I call it planting seeds
We are not the same

lol faggot

oh ok you're right

great job

tin metal shack town rapist nigger.

Muldova sucks

Good of you to see it. Maybe there's hope for you yet.

butthurt faggot is butthurt and a faggot

>still can't stop
kek

>he can't stop either but can't recognize it in himself

What's it like being on the lower end of the bell curve?

This
Also dont women have agency? If they have so much control over themselves and are so independent how then are they not responsible for their actions?
Inb4 muh rape and incest that shit so rarely happens so dont give me that faggot bullshit excuse.
End planned parenthood. you want birth control pay for it like everyone else
You dont want a kid have protected sex or no sex at all Fuck off.
Do you know how easy it is to not get pregnant? Really fucking easy.
Leave it to women to want to be strong and independent but also sheltered from the consequences of making terrible decisions.
Oh also i might have entertained abortions as long as pro choice people ever stuck to one consistent position. First trimester, safe legal and rare, then second, then third. You fuckers will never stop or pick anything so fuck off.

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A fetus is a parasite until it isn't

absorbs nutrients
detriment to health until removed

Soon to be burned-to-death shitposter pissed cause no one even gives a fuck about shithead thirdworlders from countries with town rapists.

A fetus is, by the definition of a parasite, never a parasite.

Ever. You are more a parasite than a fetus. You should probably just kill yourself then.

>faggot can't stop being a faggot

>do things that I say! everyone just be responsible!

lol

Not an argument. Unironically.

>nu uh! because!

shill logic

Not an argument.

>you can start them back up at any time

ok I see why this is fun, dang

Exactly

>being this butthurt
>being this bereft of a logical argument
>i-i-i-i-i was only pretending to be retarded!

Also not an argument.

Not a useful post

Yeah I dont want to pay for other peoples bad choices crazy right.
Also you know women drone on and on about being empowered. Time to start showing it.

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Kek, when your so delusional that you do what you call out others for....

Why is the left like this?

Just pointing out the irony here in the left coercing men into being fathers by force on the grounds that they should "man up" and take care of their child whether they're ready for it or not while simultaneously allowing women to act as executioner for another human being and giving that human being ZERO protection.

It really is fucking hilarious to me watching you guys tout yourselves as the part of compassion while being completely bereft of it.
Kill yourself.

Not an argument.

Yea Forums: home of conservative politics and moral fags

Not an argument. Kill yourself.

A fetus is a parasite, based on the definition of a parasite. You can write the definition, and a fetus checks every requirement. I have no idea why this fact triggers idiots, but it does.