"what do you mean i cant kill my baby?!"

>"what do you mean i cant kill my baby?!"
>"NOOO my life is ruined!"

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same thing but with a guy? they push abortions too ya know

Kill yourself, and get a double kill

>oh no,abortion is banned.now i have to use a coat hanger instead because conservatives are morons and think laws are gonna fix the problem

this might sound crazy but hear me out :if you dont want children then dont have sex?

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Kill your parents btw
Godlike

yeah,except for people who get raped.so how about we teach men to keep their dicks in their pants instead?

Pro gun yet pro life kek

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child support should start as soon as pregnancy is confirmed...

I'd hate to see what would happen if we made private gun ownership illegal

how come you lefty progressives don't use this very same logic for the gun debates?
why is it ok here but not there?
also
>22227 sad

>abortions for some, tiny american flags for others

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kek exactly
won't people simply break the law???

how come you're terrified of the future?
>because you're not going to be part of it
oh, rite...

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In pretty much all cases of something being made illegal...

Yep.

nothing you just said holds any relevance to the topic at hand
but ok

Or just do anal...

I find it funny how both the leftists and the rightists act like abortions are something every woman goes through every 2 months. Geez.

you can still kill your babies in all 50 states

> OP is an inbred faggot

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>never be able to justify the killing of an innocent human life
sure you can

Nice parenting goals.

Ouch, hurt myself on that edge.

>imagine being this naive

just move states roastie

So you gonna risk the life of your daughter and make her hate your guts forever all because of a nigger child that will be put up for an adoption? Nice parenting goals.

People died just so our gas could be 3 cents a gallon cheaper.

so then you agree the baby should be raised rather than murdered because it's an unfortunate inconvenience
understood

>Hurr durr 6 people said something about an extremely rare occurrence and now I can't contain my white knighting

You realize only a fraction of abortions are because of rape, right?

Abortion is still legal in all 50 US states.

>you can just go to another state and get an abortion
why are americans so fucking stupid?

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Giving birth is a painful process, does a woman really deserve to go through the pain of giving birth when she already went through the pain of being raped?

explain how

I can spot an edgy incel in you even from a mile.

>You can get arrested for memes
Why is UK so stupid?

Not just 6 people, 6 republicans. Corrupt Republicans follow their Party over the best interest of the country. Nice deflection though, faggot. At least try to use your tiny brain

talk to any female

Because our education system is shit.

Yes. Although I think in the case of rape a women should not be forced to go through with it.

>there are only two counties

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Let me get this straight. You're gonna force a CHILD to give birth after she was raped? Do you understand how fucked up this sounds? Or you're just trying to be an edgelord?

You really gotta crawl back into the hole you came from.

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Relax people. Theoretically the law in Alabama could go into effect in 6 months but in reality it will be tied up in the courts for years. You can still kill your babies in Alabama in the meantime

>Hurr durr 6 Republicans said something stupid about extremely rare cases of rape so now I must orange man bad

its funny how you guys inject the racism into this to make it seem like it's easier to make this decision because the assailant was a different race
regardless of how the pregnancy happened, the baby doesn't deserve to be murdered
the teen case raise it
or put it up for adoption
you guys just repeating things like "ruin her life" and "hate your guts" doesn't make it any less stupid to just murder innocent babies
plus you have absolutely zero evidence to even make a claim that a pregnancy ruins someone's life or makes them hate their parents
that's just fucking retarded

Not in states like Alabama. You go to another state and abort your baby, you've still killed an Alabama resident and they still get you for murder.

> inbred republican can't think for himself

No, that shit is not the law right now you idiot.

Yeah. Besides, there are approximately 7,346,235,000 human beings on Earth, I don't think we're going extinct anytime soon.

cool story, faggot

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i dont think it works like that. Also a fetus doesnt have a social security number, so in the govs eyes they arent even a citizen

let me get this straight
you're gona murder an innocent human being because your feelings got hurt?
teens have given birth before and will in the future
it's not the end of the world for them
aborting a baby is, however, for the baby
if you're gona kill anyone, kill the rapists

Alabama is trying hard to fuck the election up for Trump. WTF Alabama?

>aborting a baby
using the term baby means it has been born. No one really supports late term abortions except in extreme cases. Regardless, the decision should be up to the mother, doctor and father if he is present

why are incels so anti-abortion? also why do people on the cess-pool of the internet somehow think they are morally superior to anyone?

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Where are you from, Islam? That is such an overly-emotional reaction.

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hi i just wanted to thank you real quick
up until reading these two posts, i was incapable of imagining what it'd be like to be so retarded

>Living in Alabama to begin with
Well, there's your problem.

>raper
Bruh moment, having a kid isn't a need. If you have to rape to have a kid, you aren't good enough to have a kid.

I don't plan on getting married for at least 10 years, you're telling me I gotta stay celibate til then?

OP, since you hate abortion and care so much about children you surely support comprehensive sex ed in schools so kids can better avoid pregnancy in the first place, generous prenatal and pediatric health funding to keep these babies healthy and taxes to support good public schools, right? Or are you an utter hypocrite?

Waaaaaaay ahead of you on that one buddy

I'm just saying, a woman is a human being too, and therefore she has rights. Does she deserve to go through a painful process she doesn't want to experience?

It's not a human, you fat fuck. Human definies a complete biological creature. So you're putting a future of a cell cluster over a life of your loved one. Clearly you're a basement freak that just enjoys suffering of entire female population.

you have it totally backwards
the incels are the ones arguing for the murder of unborn babies
this is mostly because of their lack of female contact, so they have no idea how women really feel
they only know what the edgy sjw feminists they see on cnn tell them to think

The Supreme Court will uphold abortions as legal in cases of rape at a very minimum. Then bitches will just say they were raped and get their abortion. Then rape stats go up and the feminists will be happy too. At the same time unsolved "rape" cases will soar to all time highs

Imagine unironically advocating for abortion.

I would really enjoy the sight of you dying, slowly choking to death. Have a nice day, you fucktard.

I'm positive that if this happens, false rape accusations will go thru the roof.

deserve isn't the right word to use
does any person whos assaulted deserve to go through recovery?
it's just something you had to do
and if it's really that bad, couldn't the girl request sedation and a c-section?

Woman kill a her unborn baby, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY BODY!!!

Man kills the woman, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!

How come killing the rapists would help your daughter? Are you retarded?

So let me get this straight.
A girl get's raped and she has too keep the baby, she has massive trauma, after it is born it's put up for adoption, and it has to live with the fact that his/her father raped his/her mother and that he/she is a rape baby orphan.

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Actually, male basement dwellers are usually the Conservative Alt-Right.

We need population control.
Nothing is wrong with abortions.

As an ex fetus, it's safe to say that if I were aborted at that time, I would have never known about it, let alone give a shit.

>MOM LOOK I'M SO EDGY I'M GONNA TOTALLY PROVOKE ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND HURR DURR
Just don't.

>false rape accusations
yeah, they don't actually have to accuse anyone. see Roe V Wade, bitch claimed to have been raped but was not

wrong debate chief
in this one it's already decided that abortion is in fact killing a human
you can repeat cluster of cells ad nauseum but you're always going to be incorrect

In islam you actually can blame the women for being raped. Google it.

Ah yes, don't you hate it as a man when there is a woman inside your body for months and you have to shit her out.

You literally copied that from some normie post. I saw that retarded sitcom Facebook the other day when I had to sign up for some event at Uni.

Don't talk to trolls.

struck a nerve there huh buddy?

Things can happen quicker in life than one expects. You don't think about something affecting you until the day it happens to you, and rape can be one such thing.

or we just kill the baby?
not giving it the chance to experience life?
how fucked does that sound
pregnancy and birth are temporary setbacks
death is not something you recover from
i felt i had to make that clear for you

I mean that simply killing someone for committing a crime, regardless of whether or not it's murder.

well you guys are so gung ho on killing i figured why not just kill the rapists instead and allow an innocent baby to live?

how many abortions has trump paid for, more or less than 25?

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If you’re attractive enough that sex can come easy, you’re not going to want to just give up sex. This is just fact. The only exception to this are very religious people, and I doubt a huge portion of Yea Forums falls into that category. If you were attractive enough, you’d want to fuck around a shit ton too while you’re still young. Don’t hate the players, hate the game.
t. mediocre looks dude

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Nah, just want to do this world a favor and put you out of your misery. You're clearly should be a goner at this point.

so? who gives a fuck.

Yeah hate to break it to you but this isn't 1984 and people should be allowed to romantically express themselves, especially since love and sex are pretty high on our hierarchy of needs.

Does that make it any less legitimate?

Not him, but
>Massive trauma.
Her having a kid or not having a kid isn't going to change her trauma. All she can do from there is try to recover.
>All that bullshit about the kid who's put up for adoption.
Firstly, why the fuck should the kid know about that stuff? Secondly, if the kid does learn the truth, they should be taught to be their own person and live their own life, and not associate themselves to their shitty rapist of a parent. Sure, it's kinda fucked learning that, but it won't ruin them.

fuck man it sounds pretty bad
you're gona be alright though, i promise

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finally, someone on Yea Forums who also isn't an incel

it appears you meant to make a post on /pol/ but you accidentally posted on Yea Forums

here let me help you
take your cancer with you too please
sage

Fair enough, just don't complain about the consequences from having sex that you could have prevented from not having it.

its also better than being dead
i think we can all generally agree that being dead sucks and a basic function of life is to not be dead
well, actually for the fat kissless and suicidal incel virgins in here this may not apply

Imagine white knighting for Instagram whores.

Based

abortion will stay legal so there will be no consequences

Dead fetuses could solve world hunger?

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I’ve only fucked one girl and I ALWAYS whore a condomn. Can’t say I’m shameless as I used to be more religious than I am now. But I still acknowledge consequences that may come my way.

guys we're not being very sensitive to all those gay couples out there who want to adopt
or have you just forgotten about them?
sickening

Plan B works and it costs cheaper than abortions

Nothing against tubal ligations and vasectomies. But, not everyone who doesnt want a baby *now* wants to be permanently sterile. The balance of forcing sterility would be setting aside tax money to pay the medicial procedures where people may become electively pregnant. Secondly, men shouldnt be forced to have vasectomy if they dont want one, the same as women shouldnt be forced into medical conditions they dont agree to. Right to bodily autonomy and all that.

Bc and such is great too which i support over abortion as well as elective sterilization, but it is not a one size fits all product. It should be free or reduced on a sliding scale at the very least, but every method needs to be readily available.

Some people have sensitivities or downright allergies to spermicide and rubbers, so offering condoms only, and only one type of condom, for free at clinics isnt enough. It is a nice start, but it isnt anywhere near enough. If the goal is to reduce abortions and value life, then pro lifers need to fucking act like it, because nobody in their right mind LIKES abortion, and if they behave like they do, let them have at it since they're probably unfit to parent anyway. Choice is simply getting to control when, how and where a pregnancy is safely and responsibly carried to term.

gay people are bad cuz sky daddy sed so.
>the same group of people that never needs an abortion if situation calls for one.

The very same Plan B that conservative christfags are trying to abolish? Please tell more.

abortion exists to deal with those consequences.
because people have sex and therefore unwanted pregnancies

I don't get why they don't make abortion tea. its cheaper and healthier than plan b

>Her having a kid or not having a kid isn't going to change her trauma. All she can do from there is try to recover.

But she has a constant reminder about it in the form of the rape pregnancy.

>Firstly, why the fuck should the kid know about that stuff? Secondly, if the kid does learn the truth, they should be taught to be their own person and live their own life, and not associate themselves to their shitty rapist of a parent.

The first part I agree with

>Sure, it's kinda fucked learning that, but it won't ruin them.

I think it would, I mean i would be fucked up if I learned that I exist because of a rape

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>Had cerebral palsey with a missing chromosome
Good, one less leech to worry about.

I'm 100% in agreement with you
however, i wasn't making the case that vascectomy or tubal ligation should be an option for young people who are worried about the consequences of pregnancy
those are more reserved for people like me, a married father of 2 with no plans to have more children
my point was simply that there are choices of prevention in condoms, bc and abstinence
abortions should be an absolute last resort option reserved for when the pregnancy and/or birth would be harmful to the woman and/or baby
or if it's known the pregnancy is going wrong, like an ectopic pregnancy or something

so we're back to
>kill babies because my feelings are hurt

a lot more women would probably be willing to carry to term to place for adoption if financial aid were available the moment they find they are pregnant.

But the baby's existence is a double standard. Its a life and a person when abortion is concerned, but not considered a life or a person when the mother suddenly needs financial aid to maintain a healthy accidental pregnancy.

So which is it?

Damn right!

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The kid's put up for adoption, she doesn't have to worry about them for the rest of her life. If anything, she could take solace in the fact that from this terrible event, life was created that can live and breathe. Sure, trauma sucks, and I'm not telling her to suck it in because she's a pussy, obviously you need time to heal, but it's not fair to put the blame on and punish a kid who didn't ask for any of it. As for the kid themselves, much like the mother, they might also need some time to heal from the fact, therapy is important. Again, the kid shouldn't let their parent's lives define them as a person.

depends, if the baby is a nigger then it should be aborted

A fraction are. But circumstances can change in an instant, regardless how well planned out a pregnancy might have been, even during the far more rare times pregnancy is planned at all.

People suck and they're alot easier to kill in the womb.
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>Terminal Leukemia
probably saved the family their livelihood from endless medical debt from treatments that don't work

its still an option so until that's gone you have nothing to really bitch about plus there are supplements you can take that will cause the period which gets rid of the baby. I believe abortion is wrong but if i got a girl pregnant i would absolutely get her the abortion.
I'm Catholic and i believe at the very least abortion should be done to help the poor and also keep the population dropping

Men truly don't know what it's like to be a woman...

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i haven't the slightest clue about financial aid or obligations when it comes to an unwanted pregnancy
the closest thing i do know about is here in California, there's what they call emergency medical for situations like that
it covers all the docotor visits and birth for a pregnant woman who doesn't have insurance
not limited to pregnancy either, the same emergency coverage can be awarded to someone who was assaulted and needs medical attention but doesn't have insurance
taxpayers just pay for it i believe
but like i said, not my area of expertise
my opinion however is that financial aid should be awarded when its a rape, sure
but if it's just two horny teens not using prevention and accidentally got pregnant? no.

Y'all are fucking hilarious. A fetus is supposedly a life and should be carried to term, regardless of whether the mother has the means to take care of the child or not.
If she doesn't, you suggest putting it up for adoption, failing to realize that there are already so many children up for adoption that are not getting adopted, forcing them to stay in homes without a family to support them - the very thing you claim they need so badly.
Then, when asked to support the financial aid of running these operations, you refuse to support them - instead opting for more and more cutbacks to funding of these institutions.

You want to bring more life into the world but none of you want to take any responsibility for it. You don't get to have your cake and eat it, as the saying goes.

Please fucking explain this picture.

>my opinion however is that financial aid should be awarded when its a rape, sure
>but if it's just two horny teens not using prevention and accidentally got pregnant? no.
then bitches just say they were raped and take the money

this point is entirely irrelevant

Well, based on this dumb logic people made up to be upset about, we should arrest women for having monthly periods, because those fertilized eggs (that people claim to be a human being with god given rights) are flushed out after not attaching to the uterus during those few days.

Life finds a way...

some guy shoved an aborted fetus up his ass

true
so then the rape has to be 100% proven
otherwise then free medical coverage for all pregnant women because women lie?
tough situation to figure there

It's an anal baby. Nothing more to explain.

Since your okay with killing kids, just kill the preteen daughter and be done with the whole mess

its a painting

It's true, the problem is only average people or wealthy people have that option. It hurts the people that are poor the most.

Protip, It's Alabama.. Poor = Black, Why do Republicans want to just have more blacks?

It seems to me that less black unwanted kids growing up is a win win for everyone involved.

What, that men don't understand what it's like to give birth?

Good. The overpopulated planet could use some pruning. Can't win with these people anyway, so, why not?

how the fuck?

even if men did, why would that matter?
we're talking about the decision to end an innocent human life
not how women feel about being pregnant or giving birth

Mpreg is more common than you think...

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the entire population of earth could fit in Arizona
with room to spare
>citation needed
learn math

It's like shitting out an intact watermelon while being punched in the balls.
>Now you know.

no, we are talking about why people feel obligated to tell women what to do with their bodies.
that kid is part of the woman and until it isn't it's nobody's choice but hers

You're posting propaganda and you're telling user to think for himself

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lol

youre ugly nigger fucker

Pregnancy doesnt always ruin life when its unplanned, accidental, unwanted oe whatever. But your idea of forcing an innocent child existing through zero fault of its own to come into life under dangerously unstable conditions is super fucked up. Also, just because a teen CAN give birth, doesn't mean they should be forced to do so. The teen's bodies are still growing, their bodies can make a baby, but the pregnancy is far more dangerous for the mother and the fetus. If the health and safety of the baby is the goal, then the health and safety of the mother is the ONLY path.

no
we're talking about being obligated to tell one human they're not allowed to kill an innocent human
gender or who has to do what does not matter here
you will never win this argument

I just came here to tell your retard ass to read a book.
>a living being containing human DNA isn't a human because it's early in its development!

If we decided to just mulch morons as stupid as that we wouldn't be facing Overpopulation

the kid is NOT part of the womans body
this argument has been defeated for a long time
stop using it

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It’s not a baby until it’s far enough along to survive outside of the cunt. How about instead of abortion we just give meds to induce labor and if it survives then you can have it?

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Modern people are shallow.
Purposeless sexuality is a way to express their misery.

Thought that went without saying.
They ARE married, after all.

you realize that
a. we're talking about a fictional incident
b. the amount of times this fictional incident happens is extremely low
>dangerously unstable conditions
what?
pregnancy and delivery has never been safer and plus it's much safer the younger the woman is
obviously if she's prepubescent, it's a different story
the female body is literally designed to gestate and deliver children

learn english
>this argument has been defeated
personally I havent heard a good reason against this.
but even so the things is still inside of her and that is a fact.
if it is inside of her it belongs to her, there's really no way around it.
she gets to decide what happens with her body and that includes whatever is inside it

Copy pasting a fact doesnt make it any less true. As an ex fetus, im inclined to agree. I wouldnt have known, ever. Big whoop.

You lose by acknowledging its a kid. Pretty sure it's illegal to murder kids

wow again another great post to help me understand what it's like being absolutely fucking retarded
thanks user

Hence, the $1m question of, why should other people outside a family care about it?

not if they are inside of you and changing your body without permission.
this goes for anything, child or otherwise

>global population ~ 8 billion
>land area of Connecticut ~ 12 billion square meters
>area per person ~ 1.5 square meters

The logic is that abortions performed by medical doctors using the proper tools are the least damaging way to abort children rather than coat hangers and therefore prevent unnecessary loss of life

Lefties support stricter gun control laws (NOT banning guns) because it means that the only people who can get guns have lots more training and are more psychologically stable and therefore won't go on a mass shooting spree, thereby preventing larger numbers of unnecessary loss of life

The logic is the same in both cases and in both cases it makes sense

you're simply wrong
do your own homework
you'll find this argument has been had and long since ended
the child is an entirely separate human being from the mother

"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones."
—Psalms 137:9

Republicans narcissistic assholes who want the government to stay out of there lifes but simultaneously infringe on others rights and make everyone but themselves live by standards in a 5,000 year old fairy tale good lawd LMAO

if only other progressives utilized the logic in the same way you just laid it out

but even so the things is still inside of her and that is a fact.
if it is inside of her it belongs to her, there's really no way around it.
she gets to decide what happens with her body and that includes whatever is inside
>you're simply wrong
not an argument
can you read?

You're not sterile after a vasectomy you jackass. One is still capable of having children. Why are the biggest dumbasses the loudest?

>>kill babies because my feelings are hurt
No, kill that baby because it was the product of a rape and the mother doesn't want a rapist's baby
I never said that all abortion is justified, but if a girl get's raped I think that it's ok if she doesn't want a rape baby
If the sex was consensual i could see your point, but in this case it is not.

Being dead doesnt suck for anybody who isnt alive. Its not like your are capable of being aware of your death and dead self after you die.

So no, death only butthurts the living.

If we allowed girls who got raped to have abortion then women everywhere would just abuse the system and even more (there are a fucking ton) of false rape accusations would start popping up.
Horrible idea

Go home, Halbert. You're drunk off your ass on mead again.

when it comes to murdering innocent children, yes

Nice false equivalency.

Can't do that in Alabama. Enjoy raising an unwanted rapist baby as your own blood, while you can thank your fellow republicans for that.

By your logic every time your dad masterbated into a tissue he committed murder jeez you people are fucking retarded lmao

So if I kick a woman who is 8 months pregnant and the baby died it's murder. But if she kills it it's not murder because "ma vagina"

Better than being a pro-lifer because your fee-fees are being hurt.

>the baby is an entirely separate human
apparently you can't read
we're not talking about a fucking cyst
we're talking about a human being
it does not matter that it's growing inside of her
>not an argument
i told you to do your own homework
I'm not going to go re-read things and then link them to you
I'm already satiated with the knowledge I took the time to gain

was the baby inside of you?
was that baby changing your body without permission?
if you answered yes then congrats! it's not murder

What kind of retarded reasoning is this lol so if i kick u in the dick and make you sterile is that assault because huuur i didnt want any kids

Why do these cucks always use rape babies as their prime defence when the majority of abortions are because Stacy wants to ride the cock carousel.

Shut the fuco up nerd. I'm 100% for social programs and pro life. You don't get to preach as if you have the moral highground when your goal is ending an innocent's life.

so you're ok with killing someone who's innocent because of something that happened that they had zero control over
got it

>it does not matter that it's growing inside of her
can you explain this hilarious bullshit statement with the knowledge you took the time to gain?

why does the woman's life not matter?

>pro life
>only have certain self-interests

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About 1.5 mil unborn slaughtered by their mothers each yr in U.S. how many rape/mother's health? Virtually none. It is a convenience. Also, have two friends who are raising their rape babies. Both say the child reminds them out of the worst, the best can happen and saved their sanity.

You are a murderous, self-centered piece of shit.

Also, it’s Alabama:
Black-on-black sex can and probably will be reclassified as rape by definition.

That's a well-established fact regarding reasoning for abortion.

good to know this argument is never heard when it comes to abortion
because it's bullshit and entirely inaccurate

Then an investigation is launched. If she is proven to be full of shit she gets hit with the same charges as any other food stamp scammer.

>Blaming a baby for changing your body
>This calls for killing it
This is the funniest fucking line of logic I've heard. I'm not even upset at how retarded you sound, this is too funny.

no one is threatening to kill the woman

and? what are you planning on doing about that? sit on your fat lard ass and bitch about it on social media, while giving zero effort in solving the issue at hand?
go fuck yourself.

Stop being stupid. Ovums and sperm on their own are haploid cells, they do not fit the scientific definition of life. Please educate yourself.

The average white relationship

>nobody refuting any points
big surprise there

So if she murders it it's ok because its just a parasite but if I do it all of a sudden it transforms in to a human with rights?

>missed the joke
Please take comprehension courses again.

Please, we are absolutely discussing nonfictional situations which happen every single day, thousands of times all over the world. If the situation were truly fictional, then there would be zero reason to have this debate at all.

Dangerous instability means more than the obvious medical portion of pregnancy. Life doesnt stop at the end of a pregnancy. Thats the entire goddamn point.

not kill her but subjecting her to a pregnancy she did not want it not taking her life into account

A baby is sentient 6 months in gestation you dumb cunt what constitutes as human by your logic and stop using science without fully understanding the method behind it retard go back to you cave and bible and stfu

If its her body how come it doesnt also end her life?

That's why the call it a fetus and not a baby, plus who cares if the little shits die not like they had a life to care about to begin with

because these arguments have been dead and buried for a long time
the idiots bringing them up simply haven't learned that yet
they have to do it on their own

We're mocking you at the fact that you think here's any justifiable reason for killing a baby. The refutale here is that under no condition should murder a fucking kid. You sound like a teacher who'd commit a school shooting because you hate children. Get yourself checked out, mate.

Problem is they’re all in China, India, Indonesia and third-world countries where everything is fucked up.
Meanwhile, the people killing their own children are the ones living in first-world countries where shit is working the way it should.
If you were concerned with improving the lot of the human race, you’d really want it to be the other way around.

Oh so what you mean is spending even more money.
What are they going to investigate?
“I got raped in an alley I remember nothin including where I was, i got drugged or hit from behind”
I made that shit up in less than a minute. Are you gonna tell me i’m a liar? “Believe all women”

yeah
recovery is a part of assault
if she got pregnant from a rape, the resulting pregnancy and birth is part of the recovery from that assault
it doesn't mean killing the baby is somehow warranted

I agree with this wholeheartedly
I don’t get people using this argument thinking it will scare white men away
We don’t like fatherless families either

>It’s not a baby until it’s far enough along to survive outside of the cunt.
Good argument for a retard, its just that the adults are discussing life, not the title of the human you'd like dead.

>so you're ok with killing someone who's innocent because of something that happened that they had zero control over

We are talking about a clump of cells here
>inb4 Lmao clump of cells opinion wrong xd
and yes i do think that late term abortion is not right in any case but I'm talking about when it still doesn't even look human shaped.
I can say the same, watch: "Oh you're ok with masturbating well a sperm cell is human because it contains human dna and is part of the baby making process"

Yes - completely ignoring one of the strongest biological urges in countries where the population is millions of people and expecting all of them to follow your sage advice.

Serious what fucking planet are you on where this is real advice? Shit happens and plugging your ears and yelling doesn't stop it from happening.

honestly its up to the woman at that point depending on if she wanted to keep it or not.
you could've been doing her a favor or stealing the future of an expected child

Lets say you're a woman. Didn't cause problems, not a seeker for dick. Then one day, you get forcibly and unwillfully raped and impregnated by some nigger. Now you're stuck with a kid you didn't plan for, let alone thought of having one and you're forced to raise him or her. How would you react to that? Like you've been cheated or swindled, right?

>if it is inside of her it belongs to her,
Ohwaityourbeingseriousletmelaughharder.jpeg

Genius.
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So you pro lifers believe that abortion should only be done to Asians and Black people? Wow, you Trump supporters really are racist!

>duuuuuh i don't like your valid point

>clump of cells
stopped reading right there
if you're unironically still using that term, you don't even belong in this thread aside from the sole purpose of being a faggot troll

Teens pop out babies all the time, it’s not a danger to anyone for a normal healthy teenage girl to give birth. At least not from a purely physical/biological standpoint anyway.

A womans body is designed for all that, but that doesnt mean every pregancy and every body at impregnable age is capable of safely doing so. Safer than ever does not equal infallible.

>implying a underdeveloped sack of shit inside a person is a fully functioning contributor to society, therefore has rights

rape is a stupid defense for abortion.
it's about the woman's right to with her body as she pleases

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Your still pushing this "owerneship/slavery is legal based on a living human's current adress"?

i hope you remember this when you discover how stupid you've been

>implying nigger is meant for black people only

anyone may have an abortion
but after they have one all their past, current, and future pregnancies must be aborted

oh you're right, how silly of me. let me rephrase that.
>Uncooperative sperm recipient

nope
it's about any humans ineligibility to possess the right to kill innocent children

>I think it's ok to kill a human because the events of its conception hurt my feefees.

Exactly the point the First guy was making.

Why should somebody have a right to kill somebody else just because they have a pussy?

>you have to be republican to not want to kill babies
retard detected

I agree with he argument a clump of cells isnt a human, but I am also willing to completely admit to being ok with abortion for much more logical, yet admittedly darker reasons.:

There are far too many humans on the planet is it stands. 99.9% of the children born to parents that don't want kids are going to grown up to be average middle class people at best, but a significant portion will become a drain on society and then have babies they don't want to continue the cycle.

The idea that every human is special is retarded and less than 0.000001% of babies born will end up contributing something major to society that other people aren't already working on. Eventually the planet is going to collapse under the load of humanity and people will then die by the millions. If anything we need to encourage abortions except in situations with stable parents that want children and have the resources to raise said child.

>lmao, i failed biolgy, during sex ed I was to busy huffing glue... lmao

Why should somebody dictate someone else's body, especially when they're a complete stranger to you?
Thought so as much.

Wow there are no words. Good job your an incel and will never reproduce

Firstly, I'd be pretty fucking traumatized, and I'd want to punish the person who did this to me. I go after the piece of shit rapist, and make sure he gets what he deserve. I'm not going to target an innocent life. Nine months, nine months added to my trauma, but it'll at least give me some fucking peace that I didn't resort to murdering a baby who didn't deserve it. After that, I put them up for adoption. I obviously would need to let go part of something that caused me trauma but not by going with drastic measures. Then I take the time to heal, and learn to move on healthily. Sure, life was unfair, and it'll eat me up from the inside, but I'll never punish the baby that had nothing to do with it. The only one who deserves to be brought to justice is the piece of shit scumbag rapist.

K so are you Republicans going to foot the bill for all these rape babies and forced full term pregnancies because the rest of us sane reasonable people aren't lol there is such a thing as over population and dwindling resources i swear you religious retards want everyone to live like 18 kids and counting rofl

Okay well what about the right for me to do whatever I please with my body? Are we gonna pass a law to let me jerk off in the middle of the mall? It’s my body, my right! #LegalizePublicMasturbation #MyBodyMyRight

tl;dr
overpopulation is a myth

Then you have a miscarriage and happened to live in Georgia, and get thrown in jail for something that is beyond your ability of controlling.
>changing goal posts reeeeee
Doesn't make it illegitimate since that what would happen.

Not him, but people still have morals? This is the equivalent of telling me why I can tell a stranger to not go on with their plan to murder someone, or tell a stranger to not kill themselves. You're argument is that it's their life, they can do whatever they'd like, but I still have fucking morals.

Look up the definition of incel dumbass haha

So we established that it's a human regardless of who kills it. So you think it's ok for women to murder their own kids. gotcha

Wait? We should be allowed to murder because it would be inconvenient otherwise?

The republicans don't give a fuck unless it's their wife or daughter who got raped. Then it will be "different".

I don't claim to be liberal or conservative but Republicans are the worst about being total hypocrites when it comes to abortion.

>not Republican
>overpopulation is a myth
why don't you DEMOCRATS just raise taxes to give free money to women who were forced to have kids they didn't want?

Good to know you have little else than meems and buzzwords as a response

Nobody’s reading your edgy overpopulation myth fantasy piece. There are pleanty of resources for nearly double the amount of humans on earth than there are now. Just because some people hoard obscene amounts of resources and tells everyone else to stop having babies so they can keep it all doesn’t actually mean there’s not enough resources on earth for more people.

Sometimes a basic meme is worth a thousand words. Good to know that even the most basic memes and buzzwords is all it takes.

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a woman isnt an address. shes a conscious human being and has a right to what is inside if her

You literally are moving goalposts. No one ever brought up miscarriage. And you even fucking assumed what my thoughts are on it. Throwing someone in jail for miscarriage is the equivalent of throwing someone in jail because their child was born with a life-threatening disability which ends up actually killing them. These things are accidents, not meant to happen. The body fucks up, and does something it's not supposed to, no one is responsible for it. Abortion on the other hand is a conscious choice made by someone to murder an innocent life for some fucking reason.

If I really WAS racist, i’d be for abortion. After all, the most dangerous place in the whole world for a black or Hispanic child to be is inside his mother’s womb.
By that logic, pro abortion people love slaughtering niggers and spics.

I just would have thought that the people who wanted to kill their own children would be in places where life is shitty, not places where the quality of life is the best it’s ever been in all of history.

You don't give a fuck about another man's baby, and rightly so, unless you have no problem being called a cuck.
So why do you give a fuck about another man's fetus?

humans posses the right to do whatever they want with what is inside their body including a child

>all these rape babies

You act like every other person was born through rape or something.

What a fucking scientific answer based on data.
Earth's oceans are filled with plastics, we are in the midst of a huge extinction event. We still burn fossil fuels as a primary source of energy and there are entire countries that cannot feed their population or are one bad harvest away from being in this situation.

Humananity's population needs to pump the breaks until we are better at obtaining energy, feeding people, and not causing long term damage to the only rock in space we know of that can sustain life.

Its a myth guys people are starving for no reason it doesnt exist because reasons and i have no proof beyond hurrr my reasons

>babby
nah, fetus, y'all faggots don't care about dead babies

>just because they have a pussy
this conversation is beyong you if you don’t understand how pregnancies work

That baby should not exist in the first place
And never would if his daddy wasn't an animal.

1. Please learn proper grammar, or get off our English site, Pablo.
2. Fuck you, what constitutes "living" does not include sentience.

I said rape babies and forced term pregnancies you dumb fuck quote the whole thing or stfu

nobody is stopping you, go for it

>this

Nobody gives a fuck that it’s “your body” (as if there isn’t another body inside you now, but whatever) you don’t get to just do whatever you want.

The real discussion should be when life begins instead of wahmens feelings. Also pay for your own abortion you irresponsible cunt.

>These things are accidents, not meant to happen. The body fucks up, and does something it's not supposed to, no one is responsible for it.
The state government of Georgia would like to have a word with you on that one.

Attacks grammar and uses race insults without refuting anything i stated go back to church bob the grown ups are talking

It's kinda funny that they had to point out specifically that no abortion is allowed in case of incest as well.

if that stranger is planning to murder someone that is living inside their body without permission it’s not really your business.
its in their body, they can kill it

Rapes are already investigated, you mong. Not upholdong the law because some "cases are difficult to solve" is a retarded line of logic.

Just the usual dishonest leftists arguing strategy. Always make cases based on the outlier scenario.

Then what is sentience if not the human mind self aware of itself that life you dumb fuck by your logic a potted plant deserves human rights.. the absolute state of pro lifers is astounding

>all these rape babies and forced term pregnancies
>live like we’re in 18 kids and counting

Yeah my point still stands, you’re just getting emotional and blowing things WAY out of proportion now.

Just force the pro life republican's to adopt the unwanted babies. Problem solved?

Thats life**

Well, the state of Georgia can go fuck itself. Just because I support one thing, doesn't mean I support the other. This is why political parties are retarded.
>Ever since my kid was born, he's done nothing but cause me stress, I've become fat and depressed because of him.
>Today I will be murdering him so he stops changing my body.
Again, morality still applies. Killing innocent life is never justifiable.

Argumentative fallacy. Reducing human life to "clump of cells" (a term that actually aplies to all of us) means you have little actual argument to make.

Or how about stop being a cumdumpster?

Explain how your point still stands you stated rape babies are a small percentage of overall pregnancies and i stated all full term forced pregnancies do the fucking math calculate how many abortions there are a year and tell me how were supposed to care for all these unwanted uncared for children and explain how your point still stands

no the real discussion is why do you care more about the life of an unborn child rather than the life of the woman?
i agree they should pay for it tho

it is not a fucking baby

it has no memory, no emotions, no ability to think; it is less alive than a fucking cockroach

you are irrationally comparing it to human being because of your idiotic religious values
>muh potential
whenever you masturbate or have a wet dream you kill millions of babies, shame on you
it is literally the same thing. Prove me wrong

Actually most do. Most dont even want new laws so much as they wish to see the gun laws we already have properly and vigorously enforced, in addition to mental, emotional health and warning signs to be taken seriously.

In the flip side relating to the topic at hand, there is plently of agreement to reducing abortion from pro choice and the general left. I said in an earlier post, nobody in their right mind likes abortion.

No this i agree with lets all vote for it aslong as all these rich repubs foot the bill and shelter all these incoming babies not only that lets make them support the women while there pregnant its only right

>Ever since my kid was born
you absolute fucking moron

can we all laugh at this idiot?

Let's say your kissless virgin on Yea Forums bringign up a topic that's been not only discussed already but also not the point of the argument. Then you make retard statements like "a woma is FORCED to raise her rape baby". Just because you might be retarded. How would you react to that? Like you've been cheated or swindled, right?

before the 3 months the fetus can't feel pain it's not a living creature it's basically a tumor why are some republicans worrying about this shit instead of immigration and the trading war and actual shit going on

Mommy either has to close her legs or start charging for spreading them I guess, that’s how.

They dont understand basic biology all they understand is muhh god muhh guns

Let's just say you're trying to prove a point based on absolutely nothing because hurr durr i'm better than you. Then realize no one takes you seriously enough to give a half-assed effort response. How would you react to that? Like you've been cheated or swindled, right?
also, fuck you for making me reply to this shit.

Exactly you have no argument

I think you're the fucking dumbass. I was relating abortion to the hypothetical scenario I created. I was making the connection that they're both essentially the same thing, you're murdering innocent life, which is unjustifiable. You have the IQ of a fucking rock.

>why does she get to have secks but I can’t?
BOOM there is is folks
all anti-choice arguements lead to this

do you eat meat?

Doesn't matter how you dress it up. Abortion is wrong, end of story. Take your leftist tears somewhere else.

The Jews care about us and would never do anything to harm us. If they tell us it's ok to murder babies, we BETTER LISTEN!

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>I agree with he argument a clump of cells isnt a human.
Only idiots give a shit about opinions this wrong. A living being composed of the same matter and having the same DNA, growth and development as as all other Himans is dun... dun... dun... HUMAN. Its stage of development does not change its species

2 facts remain. It is human and alive. Conscious? No. A baby? No, it's an embryo/fetus/ect.

The Jews wouldn't dare subvert people, we should listen to (((them))), we must kill babies, it's the only way.

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You say this but it is an argument that does not provide any solutions. You are dealing with urges deeply ingrained in our biology and are expecting a population of millions to all comply. It is completely unrealistic and not based in the real world.

Babies without resources to raise them properly is nothing by a drain on society and the economy whether or not you want to acknowledge the facts that brought about their existence or not.

the only difference that actually matters is that the kid is physically inside of another person.
you complete fucking nitwit this is about ABORTION, as in pre-birth you ignorant sack of shit

>Animal life is comparable to human life.
Jesus Christ, you people never stop moving goalposts do you? Humans will infinitely be more important than animals.

It's not like the Jews are OPENLY trying to genocide or race or anything. Just do as you are told goy.

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So then it's not murder if i punch a pregnant woman in the stomach? also if you ever enter a vegetative state or coma you are no longer a human?

>prove me wrong
>not even a single point
whelp

It literally doesn't matter if he's in the person's body or not, you're still murdering a kid who doesn't deserve it. That's my point, you literal mongrel.

What possibly other reason could the Jews, and exclusively the Jews, be pushing so hard for baby murders. It's simple, it's because they definitely care about us goy.

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guns are wrong, burning fossil fuels is wrong (you are literally killing every child on the planet if you continue), killing animals is wrong (especially in those industrial complexes, it is literal torture), racism is wrong, putting mexican kids in cages is wrong, not helping homeless people is wrong

all things conservatives fucking love

>Humans will infinitely be more important than animals
Until humans fuck up this planet so hard to the point that we suffer a cataclysmic event that will set us back for decades if it doesn't wipe everybody off the face of the planet.
Sounds like typical human nature in general.

Quit acting like the Jews and the talking puppets they put in government have anything to do with this. Now keep killing your children goy. Oh, and fuck up their dicks as well. You will OBEY GOY!

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you said life, not human life

I though we agreed that a lump of cells is not a human (last time I checked humans look a bit different)

>it doesnt matter
why does the woman’s life not matter in this situation?

Obama was a conservitive?

For a certain amount of time, a few months actually, a clump of cells is what It literally, actually, scientifically is. The material starts out as human dna, but it dna isnt a human person. It becomes a fetus later on, and it isnt a baby or a live person until the fetus is born at the earliest of preemies, well, alive.

The government even states this within the written laws. Claiming it both is and isnt to suit the agenda of pro life but without support or recognition is legit hypocrisy.

The Jews have not committed a single crime in all of human history and they would never attempt something like genocide against another race. Remember the Holocaust goy. Remember or ELSE!

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Actually he was at one point human so therefore he has human rights a fetus before 6 months isnt sentient because the parts of the brain that grant emotion pain thought SELF AWARENESS arent fully formed yet therefore has the awareness of a potted plant understand christ fag

Show where on our constitution it states that? Because unless you show me an argument that proves her inconvenience trumps human life, you will not sway me.

But honestly, even of you did. I will die believing that that an innocent human need not die if we can avoid it.

Lol conservatives are the clowns of the world

Remember Goy, Hitler was the enemy of the people and he, unlike the Jews in Germany, was against abortion. Never forget goy, our absolute control of the media has already informed you that Hitler was the worse person in history. And just like Trump colluding with Russia, what the media tells you is the truth and you are NEVER allowed to question it.

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What do you mean no argument? They grow up and fucking pay for their children themselves.

Except for mexicans right build that wall even tho we can save them BUILD THE WALL YEEE HAWWW

Y-you’re just scared of girls having s-sex

I promise no woman you’ve ever talked to has had any respect for you

Did you stop after the first sentence or did you not understand? Read the entire post, Pablo.

You can hear crickets chirping after asking this question.

do you support free medical care then? or universal basic income?

inconvenience doesn't trump human life, huh

We are a lump of cells, you dipshit. Though let's go your route: Regardless, that "lump of cells" will become human, it will become more important than any fucking animal.
All we can do is hope big issues will be fixed. However, right now we focus on the smaller issues, and then we can take care of the bigger ones.
Because what's happening to the woman's life isn't as severe than what would happen to the kid. Murder is the worst fucking offense. If she puts up the kid for adoption, then issue's dealt with. If it was a rape-baby, then the trauma is already done, it's not the baby that caused it, it was the fucking rape. Killing a baby is not a solution for getting over trauma.

Remember how well "diversity" worked for you goy and you have us Jews thank for that. Now we MUST have endless abortions goy or else. You MUST listen to your masters goy.

>All we can do is hope big issues will be fixed. However, right now we focus on the smaller issues, and then we can take care of the bigger ones.
Unfortunately, hope alone won't do the job.

"Diversity" and "Abortion"

Thanks Jews! You are kind masters!

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Dur hurr, let's keep talking about what sentience is and means! What do mean the post I was responding to specifically said that sentience isnt part of the scientific definktion of life, therefore semtience doesn't matter in discusions on whether a being is alive? Dur, but what if I bring up the definition of sentience again?!

Some people can and do carry rape babies and babies and babies from other unfortunate circumstances to term. But not everyone can do that, nor should they be forced to.

Remember, THESE are the people who are fighting for more abortions.

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