What could they have done to defeat Sauron easier?

make samwise the protagonist, not little bitch-boy ring bearer

If Elrond had just killed Isildur and thrown the ring into the fire himself, instead of just standing there like a bitch while Isildur walked off with the ring, they could have won 1000 years earlier.

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no, because general relativity is an incomplete theory and is not definable over all energy states
also the universe doesn't exist in a perpetual state of now. any ftl travel in any form is equivalent to traveling back in time which would break causality

More like the spiders of the mirkwood with that web you got there.

causality is a logical fallacy. It has no place in quantum mechanics.

"Fly you fools!"

IE: Take the fucking eagles

Gather all the weed in Middle Earth and light it up.

>break causality
[laughs in QM]

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Poke his eye out.

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Those fools could have flown. The king of the eagles would have done it.

A little late to the game, friend

Frodo could have been labeled an eagle rider. Way better than his stupid uncle and his dumb barrel.

I know. I was rolling for war rigs

he said "run you fools"

Not in the book

How is a hobbit going to stop them from dropping you then swooping you up mid-air in their talons?

They're proven to be trustworthy

if madela effects work as the internet supposed, every stage derived and lead to it has changed too

With the one ring, he could simply put it on and disappear.

They could have eaten thorin and his band of wandering hobos easily

but then uncle gandalf would've gotten mad, and he's quite strong
with the ring they could fuck him up

That's the last thing you would want to do.
>here's my location master get those nazgul ready

What the fuck are you talking about?

Nobody had that ring except Bilbo at the time.

actually, causality is preserved in quantum mechanics

if they would've betrayed thorin and his hobos they'd get shit on by gandalf and there would be no point
if they could snatch the ring for themselves they could easily beat gandalf and install an avian dictatorship over middle earth

in all cases

FTL is kinda sorta possible though, right? tunneling and all that

They're pure. If I remember the lore correctly they wouldn't have even been able to help frodo because of the war. They were still fighting orcs from mt gundabad. The orcs were attacking their nesting grounds.

Not trustworthy enough to carry the ring.
Then just hit the ground and die and the ring would abandon his dead body.
Yeah, but they're vegetarians.

An eagle isn't a vegetarian that's stupid as fuck. They would have been pure enough to carry frodo because they carried Bilbo when he had the ring.

>Use the eagles

They didn't touch on it in the movies but in the books the eagles were kinda dicks. They were not Gandalf's pets, they were an independent, sentient race that kept to itself and didn't give a fuck about what happened to anyone else. The eagles only helped Gandalf because he was their boy; he saved Gwaihir once and earned their friendship.

Off camera, maybe Gandalf did ask them to help him with the ring and Gwaihir told him to fuck off, we ain't getting involved with Sauron & shit.
If the eagles gave a damn what happened to Middle Earth they'd have sent a representative to the Council of Elrond.

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quite a few "pure" beings have been corrupted before, especially by sauron and morgoth

Maybe that's why they dropped Bilbo and entourage off at the pinnacle because they could only stand the ring for long

They had their own war going on

True. I wouldn't say he was pure to begin with. He was something else beyond.

What could you have done in your teens to prevent your depression today?

>take the eagles

Um you know that the eagles would be spotted a hundred miles away? And would quickly be annihilated with arrows by the hundreds of thousands of orc warriors? And the Nazgul have fell beast dragon things which destroy eagles in 1 on 1 combat? This is the dumbest plan ever.

not stay inside as much
never buy WoW

If it could go back in time I'd tell my mom to get that abortion

Fly in from behind. The necromancer is a bitch. He only watches the west

Huh? What?

Go back to sleep

Aragorn should not have let the army of the Dead go, after the Battle of Minas Thirith. He should have told them to Attack Mordor then to rest in Lotr Hell.

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I didn't like the ending.

They didn't know he had the ring did they now? Also, why can't they be vegetarian, you got something against the ethical treatment of animals?

Take a stroll through the warp and get to Mt. Doom in a couple seconds

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>should not have let the army of the Dead go, after the Battle of Minas Thirith.
In the books he didn't even keep them that long.

The Army of the Dead only helped Aragorn defeat the Corsairs, freeing up the Gondor manpower that was being used to hold them off west of Minas Tirith.

When Aragorn showed up at the Battle of Pelennor Field he did have an army of reinforcements with him, but they were living Gondor men from the west...the Dead had already been released.

and start a massive war between elves and humans yeah real bright

"he was maddened by the ring and threw himself into the fire"
problem solved

this

also the second they would have gotten within range of literally anything in mordor they would have been pelted with arrows/ran down by fell beasts/stared to death/etc

Not like anyone witnessed it

>wait till rainy season
>fly above clouds
>???
>profit

rain in mordor?
also, sauron could see them regardless

that is one fucking copout answer
andl ike elrond might have been a ranking motherfucker but isildur was described as a 9 foot fucking badass and i highly doubt after just seeing him fuck sauron into oblivion elrond would just run up and start messing with him

>defeat Sauron?

Tom Fucking Bombadil
TOM
MOTHER FUCKING
BOMBADIL

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C A N C E R

fuck off retard

literrally anyone with even a little knowledge magic could have spied on them with a palantir
>implying people werent already watching the final war on their palantir like it was the 2016 election

Gandalf could just summon some rain clouds or some shit cuz he's a wizard, then use his bright light power to blind sauron.

i mean yeah but he cant even leave his forest technically right?

i know theres the meme where Tom just strolls into mordor wearing the ring around his cock and then fucks mount doom all before lunch

Tom is the motherfucking incarnation of Eru Illuvatar on middle earth, he could fuck shit up nuclearly if he cared

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>incarnation of Eru Illuvatar
i always thought he was the reader
you know allpowerful because im literally holding the book and can end this story whenever i want by putting the book down

Nothing. Everything happened exactly like it should have. That’s what makes it a good story. Even the hardships and losses lead to the successful outcome.

some say he is Eru living in and observing his creation
some say he's the reader or an author insert
in the end, his greatest power might be that we have no idea who the fuck the guy is

>Nothing. Everything happened exactly like it should have. That’s what makes it a good story. Even the hardships and losses lead to the successful outcome.

the only person here who actually said something that makes sense

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fucking deep my dude

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fuck off speculation is fun
no shit it's better for the narrative this way

Some proposals:
-Nuclear option
-biowarfare
-russian Propaganda to feminize sauron
-make the orks drug addicts
-just chill and fap to traps
-ging full doomguy

>no mention of an exterminatus

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>Some proposals:
>-Nuclear option
>-biowarfare
>-russian Propaganda to feminize sauron
>-make the orks drug addicts
>-just chill and fap to traps
>-ging full doomguy

so just full on america then?

Someone recommends giving the Ring to him during the Council of Elrond.
Someone (either Gandalf or Elrond) just says 'yeah, we could do that but he'd probably just forget it and lose it'.

Sorry. We can't spare any eagles to save the planet. We got sum orgz attacking our nest.

fucking kek
he'd probably get high and drop it into a lake

All those Middle Earth leaders could've simply said Fuck your magic rings, because they might be like a Trojan horse or European-Union type scam, so thanks but no thanks.

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just call sauron over for a grammy or two and talk it out

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The universe doesn’t allow causality to be broken, but you’re using the idea of causality backwards.

>Trojan horse or European-Union type scam

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>he thinks dumb hairless apes can make claims like that about the universe

Tolkein always said he hated allegory and didn't use it, but you could make a case that the eagles are a jab at the United States in WWI (which he fought and lost friends in).
Stay isolated until it's almost over then swoop in to be part of the win.

How does an eagle wear a ring.

his talons
the ring fits all beings, even smaug could've worn it

Too soon

bring on the memes

tarry

Those lazy fucking elves could've come and sort shit out besides getting the fuck out of middle earth and chilling in the 'undying country' eating McDonalds. Not to mention the Dwarves. At least some of the Silvan Elves came to Helms Deep.

Again, the book covers that.
Orc armies were attacking Lothlorien, Rivendell and the dwarves at Lonely Mountain at the same time Minas Tirith was being attacked.

when Sauron offered rings to all the leaders of every nation in middle earth stand up and say "Hey, has everyone forgotten that Sauron was a high ranking lieutenant for Melkor? You know, that guy who tortured the elves he captured until they turned into what we know as orcs? The guy that almost enslaved everyone on Middle Earth? Maybe we should just tell him 'no thanks.'"

Give everyone a fucking gun.

and in the book the "hope" for the helms deep battle was the heir with the reforged sword instead elves, they never go to help in that battle (xept legolas)

Yeah but those dwarves are just members of one house, the ones from the lonely mountain come from durin, meaning that there were other six dwarf houses that didnt do shit during the war

He was described as 7 feet tall if I remember correctly, so while definitely imposing either way...

>He's standing right on the edge staring at the ring like a crackhead stares at a rock.
He was easily distracted enough for elrond to shank him in the back of the knee so he cant catch his balance when he pushed him over.

Anyone watching would be able to see that Isildur was corrupted by the ring and refused to throw it in the fire...

ISILDUUUUUUUR

2899 year old Elf just shouting what the fuck are you doing then simply walking of like 'Fuck it i'm too tired for further discussion' after finally defeating Sauron and his army

He should have done this right when Isildor said "no."

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I shouldn't have started drinking or smoking

go be a homosexual somewhere else

He was in disguise and they didn't know it was him.

Gandalf should have seduced Saruman in a wizardly sissy manner ir order to get information from him (and some cum on his face too). That would have prevented the proliferation of Uruk-Hai, who killed Boromir, son of Denethor. The chain of events that whould have followed is this:
>Boromir escorts Frodo to Destiny Mount
>Boromir kills Frodo and steals the ring
>Aragorn, who was suspicious of his fellow man and has followed them around, kills Boromir and reaches Destiny Mount with the ring in his possession

Last 2 minutes of the film would be him not letting the ring go and deciding, at the very last moment, to jump into the lava and end all this nonsense.

Plot twist
>Gimli throatfucks Arwen

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who actually read those fucking books? you must be a mega nerd to have done that

>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

you should, they're great books
the story is known even after a century for a reason

ive read them first at my 11, then the hobbit and silmarilion, there was no internet at that time but i dont regret it, reading is great

Being a mega nerd is cool.

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Tfw when some1 says that and you're over 30

:____(

t. 12 year old desperately trying to get people mad

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I read them first when I was 11, a few times since then too.

That was long (17 years) before the movies...back then it was more of a hippy thing. There's lots of references to it in Led Zepplin too.

Anybody remember the animated versions from the 70's?

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What they should have done is have a million eagle decoys to distract sauron's army and have Frodo fly in when they are occupied. Offer the orcs as food so the eagles have a reason to join and dont eat frodo.

Put the ring on the dick of a goat and let a group of well trained elfs carry it to mordor in no time and throw him in. Who cares if the goat gets corrupted

they could have just told the nazguls the ring was given to the last elves living middle earth. that would send them on an unexpected adventure. think about the movies
>The Lord of the Rings: Nazguls go to Valinor
>The Lord of the Rings: Nazguls take illegals on board
>The Lord of the Rings: Nazguls in Europe

good luck making a bunch of goofball faggy elves find an invisible and probably sexually stimulated goat in the middle earth

>nazgul
>NAZBOL GANG

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