>ex military man told by HOA not to raise the colors
>i got mad at first
>read more
>he doesnt own nis house
>landlord sides with HOA
Seems cut-and-dry to me. He doesn't have a case and he shouldn't be doing something the property owner doesn't want him to be doing
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Fly em anyways if the homeowner has an issue he can get shot. America isn't a place for communists
you say that but he has a family and getting kicked out for something like this is irresponsible
You are correct. It is cut and dry. The Freedom to Display the American Flag Act of 2005 makes it illegal for any property management organization to prevent him from displaying an American flag unless it is a hazard.
This. Fuck these un-American commie fucks.
>I will do something in YOUR house even if you tell me it isnt allowed and when you try to stop me i will shoot you landing my ass in jail and leaving my wife and kids unprotected
Is this really how trumptards think jesus christ
you are correct. however the landowner sided with the HOA so what he says goes
OP has a point because its not his property...
The alt-right, ladies and gentlemen. Fuck your freedom.
Shh, let people lose their freedom for shit like this.
On your own property, lol. Not someone else's... Redneck dummy.
I once got fired for Easter decorations
do you think this is making a point
kind of an interesting question. the freedom to display the american flag act says an HOA can't prevent a homeowner from flying a flag.
complications:
- guy doesn't own the house, he only rents it. i doubt the statute protects renters rather than homeowners
- the HOA allows the flag, but you need to have an approved pole, which this guy didn't do
- prob depends on how the HOA rules are worded combined with the statute. if he's allowed to fly a flag, and he just didn't follow the procedure to do so, then he should just nut up and get the right kind of pole
would be an interesting law school exam question.
It's the tenants property until eviction retard
It is his property
If you rent a property it belongs to you and is your responsibility until eviction.
Texas Roadhouse fired a woman for burning a flag in her back yard
The homeowner is the Property Manager in this situation. If the flag can safely be displayed then the resident can legally do so. Additionally, if you read the article it states that the neighbors are now displaying a flag in solidarity with him. If the HOA does not come down on them equally it is another strike against them if it goes to trial.
Yup. You rented a home in an HOA, so first you have to follow the HOA rules, then your landlord's. After that you can talk about the government and "muh rights" but the people in charge said no. You must accept limits on your behavior when you choose to live on other people's peoperty.
>america isnt a place for communists
>only draft dodging,anti gun republicans who get made president while the pro gun and pro military crowd cheer him on
Wow sounds like we got a lawyer over here.
What you just said is nonsense.
WHY WOULD ANYOEN NOT WANT HIM TO FLY IT?? OH YEA COMMUNISTS ARE INFILITRATING THE COUTNRY AND TRING TO SPREAD ANTI AMERICAN HATE THATS
LITERALLY
THE ONLY
RAESON
>america
>freedom
choose 1,americans are to lazy and stupid to deserve freedom
holy shit guys calm down
while I think it sick that someone might be subjected to "you're not allowed to do this or that in YOUR HOME because you don't actually own the land," I find it very amusing because this is the exact brand of plutocratic bullshit that the flag-waving retards demanded in the first place. Your shit your rules. Don't own it? Tough shit; that's what you asked for and that's what you got.
and then these dumbasses cry communism when it's the exact opposite. What a joke. Time to pack up and get out if you have a brain enough to do so. The nazis lost because they chased off the intellectuals and scientists that had centuries of history in germany and the US came out on top because that's where they fled. Where's next?
Dude probley got a 20 foot of a eye sore flagpole on his front lawn. That looks out of place.
so i can tell you not to express your patriotism but i cant tell you not to express your faggotry while living in my house? I bet things would be different if that was an lgbtq flag...
Rent free
faggot youre right about yoru irrelevant points
the question is why do they not allow a flag to be flown?????
retard
This is completely incorrect. Renting a property in a HOA does not bind you to the HOA bylaws unless your rental agreement states that it does. The owner of the property is responsible for any HOA policies and fines.
>The alt-left, ladies and gentlemen. Fuck your freedom.
fixed
its like you said, just have to have an approved pole.
Democrats HATE AMERICA
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>high school kids who never rented or owned property
Yet a other lawyer. Bro I live in a restrictive HOA and you're talking nonsense.
I am not American, not even pro-American.
But burning flags just seems like the most useless time wasting childish thing you can do.
>imagine putting in the effort to make one or spending the money just to burn it
Might as well by a snack and enjoy your time and money.
Only Alt-right NAZI's love America
it doesn't matter why, dumbass. The law does not require you to explain the reasoning behind what you want to do with your property. That would be some gestapo-level bullshit.
Why do you driveling morons not see that every time you cry about something you're only asking it to be made worse? This is how we ended up at the point where fuckers believe they can tell people what they can and cannot display where and when. This is why christmas trees are racist and you can't say hello to a stranger without committing sexual assault. It's all just escalated from stupid fuckers being offended and angry at what other stupid fuckers are doing, just shoveling shit back and forth over the fence. Look at what is going on around you for once.
It’s Fox News, of course the story is cherrypicked to anger a bunch fools.
i'd add that if the owner is fined because the tenant doesn't follow the HOA rules, then the owner has a cause of action against the tenant for recovery of those fees under the terms of the lease contract, whether or not the HOA is in the wrong.
Good way to get your ass fired
Nice absolutes you have there brainlet
So you heard the good news then?!
That’s the issue with modern reporting. Fox shows this, patriots get mad, they don’t tell you the whole story. CNN shows porchmonkey getting pulled from a car and tased “for no reason” doesn’t disclose that said spook just robbed a bank and led them on a high speed chase through a school zone. Fuck news networks and fake news. You can’t trust literally any of them anymore and it’s on both sides.
Probably not where I live, no one really cares as long as you don't bother others with it in public or make a mess.
The issue is that he doesn’t even own the property he lives on, which is why this is happening. It is retards like you who caused such a thing to happen in the first place because of muh free market.
>inb4 commie
it's jihadi beheadings - technologically sedated and complacent american cattle edition. The difference between these people, and just as well the god hates fags and the folks with aborted fetuses on signs, is minimal: the level at which they take out their ape instinct is determined solely by their environment. They burn flags and "protest" here instead of cutting off heads solely because the system set up around them prevents it from escalating to that level.
I'd do everything I could to get it into court
Please let somebody try to convince a court I shouldn't be allowed to fly a flag
I bet the judge falls out of his chair laughing
Should also add that no one here also seems to even think of doing dumb shit like that.
Underrated post
Which all rental agreements do you fucking mongoloid.
>checked
>speaks in symbolic face noises
Next level trolling
>if you do not have a flag outside your house you are unamerican
>lol wut
Autism
If the landlord says you cant play loud music then you cant
If the landlord says you cant have pets then you cant
If the landlord saya you can have a flag flying around then you cant
Its not about being patriotic or not, its about respecting the rules of a house that is not yours
I live in Kim Davisland, where tarot cards are illegal, solar power is illegal, refusing to use the tainted poisonous water is punishable by eviction, the jailers murder inmates, and church truancy alone is grounds for termination.
People are allowed to shoot cars with offensive bumper stickers on them here but you can hire the police to do a private investigation for you while on duty
The laws of the country you Stan so hard for allow private people and property to have exist. Do you Nazi fags have a problem with private property? Cause if I tell you you can't smoke in my house and you do I'm emptying a mag tube into your chest.
Based non-American
Protesting is the same as murder in Texas
Freedom don't come free, brother! YEEEHAW SEMPER FI!
>browse Yea Forums
>cry autism
Like pissing into an ocean of piss
If a landlord says you can't have an American flag you should burn his house to the ground
You come to my house and tell me I can't smoke in it and I'll empty a clip into your crotch
Thanks for the explanation. I had no idea which website I was on Captain Explainerman.
np fren
it was the communist who wanted to abolish private property.not the nazi's,if your going to call everybody you dont like a nazi,at least get some knowledge on who they actually were
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Exactly my point Nazi faggot. It's not his house. Make money. Be successful. Own property. And you get to make the decisions. You can't compel people to let you do whatever you want on their private fucking property you idiot.
Communists are the real nazis though right?
Most countries have an exemption for political signage/flags/etc. In Canada, a condo board (same as an HOA) is explicitly not allowed to prevent you from displaying a flag or an election sign.
How does 'Murrica not have this?
Then why are you Nazis always crying that people won't let you violate their private property? That bawww this private website won't let me do whatever I want. Bawwwww I don't own this land but I should be able to do whatever I want here. It's always just bawwwwwing until you call someone a snowflake in the most ironic faggotry possible.
why are you doing this
No because the United States is a free country and you're allowed to prohibit whatever you want on your land.
it makes you cry
They wouldn't kick him out over this
Political speech is sacred. Even more sacred than property rights
Exactly.
Giving someone hundreds of dollars to do what you want on their property doesn't give you the right to do what you want on their property.
"Property" is theft from the community.
Wow, mad respect for actually reading beyond the title and actually looking into the facts, op.
This is partly why I hate HOAs, and refuse to buy where I'd be required to join one. My property, my fucking rules.
Yeah, he's renting the house (which makes it retardedly worse), but pretend he didn't for a second.
Just imagine spending a monthly ransom to maintain a pool you don't own, like at an apartment. And you can't paint your front door red (the most common color) if you want to; it has to be brown. You can't have three potted ferns and two rocking chairs, as you're limited to three "personal items" on your front porch. You want to grow some tomatoes and cucumbers, but your back yard is visible from the side street, so it's deemed unseemly.
And then you're put on a big project at work, so you have to leave before dawn, and you return long after dark starting Monday, and things aren't finished so you have to keep working like that through the weekend, until the following Friday. Two rain storms mean your grass grows a bit more quickly than normal, but you can't mow because you're getting home, quite exhausted, after quiet hours begin. So two weeks later you're given a thousand dollar fine for your grass being more than two inches high.
Then one weekend you're working outside and your garage is open, but it's messy so you get another fine.
Then your brother visits you on a weekend, and parallel parks his truck along the curb so the boat fits in the driveway. HOA crew comes by, and you get another fine.
Three strikes. Your home is foreclosed on because you've violated the terms of the HOA. They get to sell it out from under you, and you've got to find somewhere else to live.
Fuck HOAs.
Not if you give that right to someone else in exchange for money
>the HOA allows the flag, but you need to have an approved pole
The law doesn't allow them to require that.
>Murrica isn't for communists!
>So we should overrule property rights for the sake of virtue signalling!
Litterally retarded/10
Sorry your mom was a junkie or played impact sports while pregnant with you.
The left never moves out of mommies house pt. 50,000,000
Which is a thing that doesn't happen you fucking idiot and it's the reason fagdick can't fly the flag.
My county outlawed trees.
Every tree over 18 inches is a $500 a day fine for the life of the tree.
The county is entirely Kentucky woodland so it is now owed over 1 trillion dollars upon demand.
Gas all landlords. Problem solved.
Yeah it's nice. She bought it for me when I got out of college. Your parents didn't buy you a house? Are you poor?
I'd burn the fucking house down if someone came at me with that noise
He can fly the flag nobody will stop him
Lololololol nazifags all the same
>the thing I care about right now is the most important thing in the universe and the way I wish it was is the way it's always been
You bet your fuckin ass they will. They evict his bitchass off their land with state force if necessary and rent to someone who will honor a contract like an actual American capitalist and then they'll let THAT guy fly a flag as a fuck you.
Fuck the HOA, fly the flag. We have laws against a large governing force from doing the same thing for a reason. It's not even the landlord saying no, just a shitty faceless organization that buys property en masse and uses that to enforce their own shitty rules.
yet if he wanted to fly 52 israeli flags nobody would say or do shit but praise him
Lol the right all live under tree stumps in the woods and theyre like OK PARENTS BOUGHT YOU A HOUSE. Like yeah we're successful because we cooperate retard. I'm going to buy my kids a house too XD
The part where the landlord sides with the HOA tho... my sides you idiot. Learn to read.
it might, which is why any decision by a court would be dependent on the terms of the HOA and the language of the statute. i just looked up the statute, and it has this caveat:
"nothing in this Act shall be considered to permit any display or use that is inconsistent with . . . (2) any reasonable restriction pertaining to the time, place, or manner of displaying the flag necessary to protect a substantial interest"
is requiring a particular kind of pole a "reasonable restriction" on the manner of displaying the flag? maybe.
Strawman and entirely wrong.
Draft isn't for wealthy, its for the poor and state educated.
You're jumping to conclusions assuming that they're treating him unequally. As other anons have pointed out there's a HOA rule about pole type. Those "showing solidarity" probably bothered to get the right pole or they'd be facing the same issues.
Hopefully he'll make an angry video about it from the front seat of his truck
I'm just gonna add this here.
These must be bait. Anyone who criticizes American government or its unethical actions is a communist. >Boomer mentality
Pffft major lol
State forces come to evict me for flying an American flag id massacre them
Pop pop pop
A big pile of dead cops
What? There's nothing wrong with making sure your family is taken care of. My wife and I don't have kids but we have investments set aside for her brother's kids to buy houses. Kids shouldn't have to struggle.
>doesn't know what a house is
>meat freezer iq
>nazi
>checks out
Mad agreed bro and same but these Nazi faggots live in mudhuts and think they're self actualized
Or just he wants to hang it on the garage door no pole which, aside from being trashy for the HOA, is disrespectful to the flag.
On a similar note, fun fact: under the us flag code wearing the flag as clothes is disrespectful. Just something to think about the next time you see a rascal-rider draped in a tent-shaped flag, ranting about others not respecting America.
Nope! No you wouldn't. You like to pretend you would though. A lot.
>Why should the USA flag require proper respect and treatment? You should be free to throw it over your rust-bucket's missing window to "show patriotism" just like any degenerate tranny plastering their made-up flag over every trashcan they get their hands on
1/10 patriotism, if genuine you should report yourself for execution/deportation to contribute to making america greater.
You shouldn't have to compare the U.S.A. flag to tranny bs, even if you THINK you have to you shouldn't, show some damn respect I stead of just virtue signalling.
>couldn't fly a flag in his front yard
Probably because there's no goddamn room with those power lines.
reasonable restriction to protect a substantial interest. from HOAleader.com ""Associations are permitted to place reasonable restrictions on the time, place, and manner of the display to protect a "substantial" interest of the association. The bottom line? Federal law prevents associations from enacting blanket bans on flag flying but allows restrictions that are reasonable and necessary to protect owners' interests in association property.""
so basically unless its somehow damaging to property or disruptive they can get fucked
No it's just the lying liberals, fox NEVER lies.
This
What the fuck are you doing in a country in which you can't stand to see it's flag waved anyway. Turns out you have bigger problems than some colors on a cloth.
>We have laws against a large governing force from doing the same thing for a reason.
>implying the HoA wouldn't try to punish the home owner if they did not side with them
Guess the landlord will have to evict his other tenants, since they are flying a flag along side the active resident in protest. The landlord/hoa is free to wait until the agreement is up for renewal, or evict all his neighbors as well with this ToS cop-out.
>They burn flags and "protest" here instead of cutting off heads solely because the system set up around them prevents it from escalating to that level.
Yeah REEL Patriots shout up churches and schools regardless of the law!
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I wouldn't even call myself based tbh.
More like common sense not to do retarded shit.
All these people do is wine and moan and just rile each other up, all while they accomplish nothing and make no positive changes for the world themselves.
Same with basically everyone complaining on the internet, if you want something done... fucking do it.
>outlawing trees above 18 inches
citation needed, or you're a fucking idiot
Kek, foreigners still pretending any American actually cares what they think. Those pics are nothing more than a circle jerk of solidarity against their excuse for failure
says the guy posting on Yea Forums
Ok? That's fine? That's how things actually work? They will evict you for failing to abide the HOA rules and they're probably happy to do it in a rising rental market.
You communist cuck fuckstick what do you have against people flying the flag
did you even read what he wrote
Kek
lol if you read that and that was your takeaway. just lol. a substantial interest is any interest of substance. it's a hundred percent allowed to keep people from running their american flag underwear up the flag pole in a decent community. the guy is being a faggot for sure or the HOA wouldn't care.
>I hate this thing
>Let me shove it up my ass
>Jokes on you.. hehe right?
Kek
Imagine thinking a symbol of a thing was the actual thing like a fucking four year old.
I love when you tards actually pull this shit.
PLEASE don't just be an internet toughguy and actually follow your own stupid advice.
Feeling a compulsion to constantly cram the idea that you're a patriot down everyone's throat is indicative of being a moron.
You should be able to fly the flag on any US territory freely. Shit ought to be in the Bill of Rights.
Until it is, though, I’m siding with the property owners. I think they’re worthless faggot communists, but it’s their property, fuck what I or anybody else thinks.
I’ll take “delusions that boomers have”, for 1000, Alex.
If mommy says I can't have tendies I'm burning my own house down
>_____are the real nazis though right?
>Tfw on some level /pol/tard wannabe Nazis realise that everyone hates them and so have to try to project Nazism on opponents even as they try to argue for the virtues of Nazi philosophy
Lol
You do understand that somewhere in this branch of events is someone who doesn't want the American flag flown over American soil. That's the core issue. That's the bud that needs to be snipped.
The veteran and hoa and all that extra crap is just fat on the meat.
Probably the most based post in this thread
It's not. It's that some faggot wants to do whatever he wants on someone else's property and this is America bitch.
You're not allowed to shoot me. It's in the rental agreement.
pretty sure the underwear up the flag pole would count as "disruptive" sooo
someone should start a new thread when this 404s because of the butthurt spammer
Law fag here. More common law than American law but from what I understand (bare in mind my area isn't property law) once you lease a home to someone they have the right to raise a flag if they so choose, provided that they don't alter or damage the property in order to do so.
Basically if this dude didn't modify the property so that he could raise the flag the HOA and land owner can fuck right off. At least according to the legal system I'm trained in. You Amerimuts may be entirely different on this topic
Too many people making good points and making the Nazis and fake-patriot flag wavers look bad so gotta spam to try to shutdown all conversation.
Like when a thread is posting pics that make /pol/tards look retarded so some triggered user swoops in and spams low-effort low-definition copypasta and Facebook memes.
Or when there's a porn thread and someone doesn't like what others like so instead of finding a topic they like they spam gore and furry.
hes butthurt into oblivion
You aren't a lawyer because you're wrong as fuck. We've been through this. Read the thread numb nuts
Only on the proper pole.
"you're wrong as fuck"
~a lawyer
Whenever the dunk squad is on this happens in pronazi threads lol. The fash gets BTFO so hard they have to suicide bomb the thread.
So what you're saying is if I were to raise a 30 foot wide flag across the street, blocking all traffic, you'd support my doing so and accuse anybody who complained about it of being a traitor because you equate the complaint to them not wanting the American flag flown on American soil?
Based on your argument, I can tell you are stupid, so I'll make it clear that my question was rhetorical. Rhetorical means that the question wasn't actually something I expect you to answer.
HOA isn't city or community. Its always like 10 old people who need to get fucked.
>I don't know anything about American law or property law but here's an uninformed opinion anyway
continued
It's your duty as an American obviously lolol
Lol nice desperate insecure projection, pls ignore all the redneck right tards whining about the issues of not owning houses while I sit in my cute little paid-off 3 bedroom in a non-hoa area with gardens out back, nature trails just down the hill, and friendly neighbors who mind their own business but happily lend a hand when needed.
Yeeeessssss good goy bootlicker, make sure to vote trump again to protect Israeli interests!
It's not though. He can fly the flag, just not on a broomstick, his garage door or a 50' pole. The flag was never the issue.
having a social security number is overrated user. think of it like circumcision, you shouldnt just do something life changing without their consent
Facebook conservatard boomer 101:
-Only I can criticise anything, anyone else who does so is a snowflake whiner
Do you really think anyone believes your internettoughguy act or are you just lying to yourself?
not the guy you're replying to but you sound butthurt so could you blame him?
Ah, Communist sympathy on the internet. Never gets old. How come you cowards can't come out in the open in a US city and do this without getting slaughtered? Crybabies still mad at capitalism. Lol.
>a country in which you can't stand to see it's flag waved
>Neighbors had no problem following the rules and flying flags
>One lazy retard thinks he's special and shouldn't have to put in the same effort and suddenly it's a matter of people not being about to STAND seeing the flag waving
Oversensitive retard who can't read/10
Yeah, I'm sure they'll evict everyone involved. That totally won't be something that ultimately does them more harm than good.
Or, they evict a single person while living the other protestors, I'm sure that will go over well for them.
Presumably the neighbors followed the damn rules because they're not niggers.
>describes placing material outside of the property renting
>material off property is affecting traffic on public roads and is disruptive on public grounds
No, purposely blocking public access on public land is not allowed, but the flag has nothing to do with that. Please strawman harder.
I get what you're getting at and also get that your going to extremes to point out plot holes. And while you are correct, it's against an incomplete argument that in the 20 second it took to write it I did not consider all the possible ways for Murphy's law to take place and how to "keep it simple stupid" (protect idiots from finding loopholes). I assure you if I were writing laws instead of Yea Forums comments I would take more than 20 seconds to formulate a sentence that would not allow such loopholes.
But to answer- the gist of society is to protect others from others so we can all get along and progress, so seeing as you're impeding something society uses, that goes against what society is about. This isn't some moral abortion-esque issue either. Everyone can agree that blocking a street is impeding. You're objectively in the wrong for pulling that off.
There's a while balance of morals when you do this kinda crap, and sometimes you gotta pick which outweighs the other. They can both be good, but one is better. Seeing as society is the whole reason both we and the flag are here, that gets the upper hand.
What he wants to do is something that should be ranked as unquestionably ok to do tho, like breathing and eating. It would be a dick move for a landlord to say "oh yeah, and no blue shirts or furniture in this house". Like that would be weird, right?
Tho I notice some faggots are pointing out it's actually about a pole instead of the flag itself. Welp, that's mainstream media clickbait for ya
>You do understand that somewhere in this branch of events is someone who doesn't want the American flag flown over American soil
Yet there's apparently no problem with all his neighbors flying their flags after actually following the rules???
Doesn't add up.
Seems like it's one lazy redneck nigger who doesn't want to pay to do it properly so he's throwing a tantrum relying on oversensitive tards like you always on the lookout for something to get offended about and shoehorn into your stupid us versus them sjw crusade.
You don't care about the facts or reality of the situation, just how you can twist it to reinforce your preconceived beliefs and narrative.
Seriously, are you just some bot or is some kid legitimately SOOOO triggered that a conversation didn't go in a way to support your narrative?
why would it matter what the home owner thinks?
if he is a tenanted than he is the resident
unless he is just renting a room or squatting or something
obviously it worked
Mostly only here for the memes.
But slowly everything is turning into porn or autism threads.
I have been here less and less.
Could I blame who? The person I replied to was making fun of boomers too, moron.
Sorry if you're a boomer and got triggered, feel free to keep projecting your whining on me if it makes you feel better.
If he moved in to the property, and they changed the rules afterwards, he should be "grandfathered" in and allowed to fly the flag. If that clause was in the lease and he signed it, then he agreed not to fly the flag, and he can't change his mind now.
>Mostly only here for the memes.
Fuck off back to FaceBook boomer fag