Why do the democrats want open borders?

Why do the democrats want open borders?

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Free votes.

why cant republicans pass an immigration bill when there own party has control of the country? cadet bone spurs had to wait until he lost the midterms to throw tantrums about the mexicans and his wall

if you cant convince your own party to want it,how do you expect democrats to want to tolerate your shit?

They don’t. They want sensible immigration laws. That or because they conservatives don’t and both parties take the stance of “if the others want it it’s bad”

STOP REPLYING TO EVERY GOD DAMN FUCKING PIECE OF FUCKING BAIT YOU RETARDED APES

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>sensible laws

yeah,just like gun control right?

I've seen many make the argument that immigration control shouldn't exist. Look what they did in Portland:

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Still believe all liberals are moderate?

i see i made the trumptard angry

problem is its not even made up

nobody calls liberals moderate.not that it matters,trump supporters arent exactly moderate either

Because we have fake faggots in the party that think just like you. Luckily though we found a solution, ship them all to your neighborhoods and cities. Then you can finally be culturally enriched.

>fake faggots

haha,im a real republican.not some toothless redneck trump supporter like yourself.those are the fake faggots,not me

>They want sensible immigration laws
Oh yeah like sanctuary cities?

And therein lies the problem. The fringe ~10% control everything and their numbers are swelling.

To destroy the country.

they don't
nobody does
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and go ahead and ship them to my neighborhoods and cities.i have enough guns to protect myself.cant say the same for you gun grabbing trumptards

Yea like sanctuary cities which hold the stance that it is more economically efficient to turn illegal immigrants into tax payers than to deport them

You're a fake faggot who wants open borders, get real

oh right,more socialist horse shit.im sorry but good luck when you raise the rich's taxes to pay for your bullshit and they just leave the country and your left to starve to death in your socialist utopia the dems try to make you believe it is

nope,i think both republicans and democrats have the wrong idea on immigration

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but hey,good luck with cadet bone spurs wall.oh right,you couldnt get that.so went to the other option which is fear mongering americans into thinking immigrants are bad

Illegals do not pay taxes you fucking idiot, besides maybe the sales tax, and they TAKE far more tax money than they put in

Most of them will be on welfare and making money under the table. Hence why they are such a huge drain on the economy.

They are when they're ILLEGAL, and then faggots like you give them gibs when they get here

I'm not a dem you fucking idiot. Jesus christ both sides have turned full retard. We need a civil war badly.

The aim of the Democrats is a larger government. The aim of the Republicans is a larger government. Party rhetoric is different, results are always the same.
The movement towards socialization is not an accident, it is a movement towards centralization of power.
The platform of the "conservatives" today is left of the platform of liberals 60 years ago. There has been an incremental slide towards larger government for at least the same amount of time. The left/right paradigm is a sham. Is it all due to poverty, incompetence, coincidence? You tell me.

>illegal
>receiving social benefits / anything provided by tax money
pick one and stop chugging chromosomes you mongoloid

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>We need a civil war badly
the world is watching
you voted trump in you retards, it's all you deserve

they don't . they just let the crazy left assume this. the black vote is real Obama was proof that they can swing an election. most illegals take jobs from blacks and stress the social security net that the poor have come to rely on.

Because better educated migrants will make redneck scum like you redundant and obsolete

They don't.

False on both accounts
They pay sales tax

They pay property tax through their landlord when they rent

Their employers pay a payroll tax for what they pay them

And in sanctuary cities since they don’t have to hide they can pay for government services without fear of deportation

Many have fake documents that allow them to work on the books and pay income tax

Also no matter where they are they give more than they take since they pay but cannot collect any benefits since they aren’t legal

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Illegal immigrants can’t collect welfare since they are illegal

OP is a russian troll

they do if you don't think about it and just spew maga shit all day..

Educated migrants typically fly in on a work Visa, not cross the desert packed into a box truck. And its poor blacks that are hardest hit by low income illegal migrants who price them out of the job

yeah your correct...I think proof of this is how can the right be in power for so long and not repeal Obamacare ? the truth is they like single payer it equal more power and control over corps and r&d globally. by controlling healthcare they will control more of the global market.

So illegals don't go to the ER for free, or get FA for college, or get food stamps? Any other fake news you'd like to put out while we're at it?

It pisses people like you off.

Cheap servants and more vote-farms...

>They pay property tax through their landlord when they rent
Just stop, you're a fucking idiot

Illegals can go to the ER but those are run by private companies not the government

They cannot get financial aide unless they can prove they are a Dreamer

They can’t get food stamps

70% of Russia was rebuilt throught loans and technological assistance from parties based in the US, according to Stalin. Amazing that the US suddenly had a well equipped enemy for the cold war. Americans suddenly had to borrow tons of money (at interest) for the buildup. I wonder how many organizations are out there that are capable of loaning money (at interest) to nations? Must just be coincidence.
Russians aren't the trolls. The people that own Russia, the US, and EU are the trolls. Russians are pawns, as we are.

>go to the ER for free
pouahahahaha you're saying that like the usa doesn't have a health system that will gladly put you in crippling debt for a bottle of aspirin
get real mate

Why because I have a basic understanding of economics and you just listen to someone’s podcast or watch YouTube videos?

This
Get your head out of your ass

Not control over corporations. More corporate control.

You misspelled 'Welfare Cheats'

Why do conservatives only argue with memes and logical fallacies?

I can't wait to see American whites gone.

don't forget just pure lies also

Yeah I don't give a fuck. You said they don't get gibs when they clearly do. Then faggots like you wanna cry and complain because the right is supposedly racist and hates illegals. Stop giving them fucking gibs and they won't come anymore, but dems like you don't wanna hear it.

Skin color is irrelevant. Everyone that begs for more powerful government, more centralized power, begs to be a slave.

the hospitals receive money from the fed. my county hospital has never earned a fuckin dime, every year they are in the red for millions and every year they get money from the fed gov. or maybe your talking about your country and not mine.

Because unskilled and uneducated illegals knock the bottom out of the labor market and speed the destruction of the middle class...

And why are "dreamers" being given FA meanwhile american born citizens have to fucking pay? What jobs are these fucking beaners going to get they don't even have SS numbers. Just so they can go to college and study fake bullshit like taco history and salsa dancing.

There are no “gibs” that’s my point

That’s because you live in a shithole county. Hospitals by me make millions a year.

FA is loans. Loans which are given to and paid back by both dreamers and citizens

so that more poor desperate uneducated people come into the country and vote for them. Why do you think they are also against verifying citizenship at the polls?

You don’t understand economics

right here ladies and gents, another moron wasting our precious oxygen

please, the USA as a whole is a shithole nowadays...

So that people won’t be discouraged from filling out the census and we can get a true one estimate of a population

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Illegals are only a small, small symptom of the squeeze on the middle class. Poor agitators/immigrants/activists always cry for bigger, more powerful government. The ultra wealthy always cry for bigger, more powerful government. Why would the ultra wealth beg to pay more into a system to give their money to the poor? They dont. People that beg for bigger government in hopes of handouts from the rich are misguided or stupid.

why do cunts keep posting /pol threads here?
Because you're a cunt that's why, now please fuck off.

I live in the USA

But again, what jobs are they going to get with their fake news degrees in taco dancing and spic history? Besides Mcdonalds and Walmart

well you do litterally have thousands get shot each year.

Maybe where you live but where I live is thriving. Hill Country Texas baby. Where jobs are plentiful, houses are affordable, and the traffic sucks but two outta three ain’t bad

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I said county not country. Learn to read Cletus

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A better one than you have I am guessing

Because abortion is wrong.

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I don’t get the connection

Ever spoken to anyone who works for a living in industry or the trades?
Ever looked up from your phone long enough to see how much harder Mommy is scratching every year to keep the lights on?

over 90% are suicides and nig nog on nig nog violence

I went to college where I got my MBA and now work as a director of development for a non-profit. So I have a pretty good understanding of economics

>let's disregard all shootings and mass-shootings because it would invalidate my skewed world view

You misspelled 'I make shit up because that helps me shit on people I consider OTHER without feeling guilty for being a bad person'

And my mother is doing just fine she is a nurse and is 4 years away from retirement.

The Census is to enumerate representation, THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO ILLEGAL ALIENS.

All suicides are violence against self

That's not factual.

Because they believe in freedom. Like the freedom to cross borders.

Legal immigrants are afraid as well. Permanent residents. They are afraid that even though they are legal they will be targeted. Like the Iraq veteran who was deported even though he was a citizen

Wait is this /pol/...?

Australia can use an AOC. Open the borders for more muslim mut from Indonesia

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The Elite need a carefully curated population of Tokens for proper virtue-signaling.

Being upset that the constitution is being shit on doesnt make him a bad person.
Executive branch secures the border. Black and white.
No border=no sovereignty
What language the people speak, the color of their skin, their culture are all irrelevant. Illegal is what matters.

IM ILEGAL ASK ME ANYTHING..PAYCHECK WAS CASH LAST NITE

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Didn't you troglodytes get bored of illegal immigration and move on to abortion already?

Do republicans still beat their wives?

>PAYCHECK WAS CASH LAST NITE

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This guy gets it.
No one else wonders why the wealthiest are on the same side as the poorest, rallying for legislation and regulation that would take money from the rich, to give to the poor? Sure seems fishy to me.

because they act before they think then have to adjust later when they find out they were wrong all along and costs more money in the end run.
then they flip flop and take the "we told you all along open borders are a bad idea"
because the left just steals from the right

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And gun control would effect them as well.

Just to preempt the usual arguments:
>People will just buy illegal guns!
At nowhere near the rate due to cost. Other countries with gun control laws on the whole have fewer guns, and have fewer deaths due to violent crime even when knife crime upticks because a knife is less deadly than a gun.
>But that's because they have less niggers!
Hackney, UK has more niggers per square mile than any city in the US at over 7800 per sq mile. It has a marginally higher knife crime rate than some neighbourhoods in Chicago, almost no gun crime and is less than half as fatal in instances of violent crime.

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Taking the bait so hard..

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Stupidity

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He's a shit person for pretending things that don't happen do happen as an excuse to just hate everyone who doesn't fit whatever constitutes 'one of us' to him at the time. Illegals are almost never the beneficiary of income support, financial aid, or any other form of welfare.

An MBA shuffling paper for a 'charity', you've successfully mastered Parasitism, you've almost certainly never experienced actual work with your attitude.
I'm sure everything looks fine from your insulated little hothouse, out here in the actual economy it's not so rosy...

The left/right paradigm is a sham. Regardless of which party is in power, the US is always moving in the direction of a larger, more powerful government. NEVER the other direction.

Democrats don't have any values.
They against whatever republicans / christians hold of value.

Thinks they still do say. No Democratic politician has said we should reduce border security. The wall is a waste. Move manpower would be more effective and less expensive in both the short and long term. No wall keeps people out of it isn't guarded.

Good for her, too bad she insulated you from reality so badly, good intentions...

>No wall keeps people out of it isn't guarded
Did you crack this case all on your own snowflake?

Corporations failing to increase pay even close to in line with the increase in cost of living is the thing that makes 'mommy scratch harder every year to keep the lights on'
>But living wage would hurt small businesses!
If they can't afford to keep their staff fed, clothed, warm and watered, they cannot afford to exist. It is okay for businesses to fail of they cannot afford their staff. Corporate welfare and labor exploitation are the two cancers killing your mommy's ability to keep the lights on you ignorant shit.

And an ad hominem with no attempt to address the perfectly valid point you quoted? Of course. Fucking tribalists.

Legals being targeted need to have options, any border enforcement worth the name will have false positives, ICE agents getting out of hand need to be publicly spanked...

Employers are not responsible for paying people a "living wage", when is completely subjective and has no real meaning. If the job doesn't pay enough for you, find one that does. And don't fucking cry about living wages while you smoke weed and have kids out of fucking wedlock, both of which the niggers and spics that want $15 an hour do.

Why can't /pol/ stay in their own fucking containment board?

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The stupid....it hurts. Dumb nigger

Upset there aren't enough nigger porn threads for you?

Since when have niggers ever wanted to work?

>Mate

Faggot furry detected

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You need to look at un-cooked crime stats...

You mean like making drugs illegal makes people not do them? You can't ban guns. It won't do shit but cause an uprising.

You would know

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I very clearly defined living wage user
>If they can't afford to keep their staff fed, clothed, warm and watered.
Current minimum wage does not allow for this in the majority of the country. Labor does not behave the same way as other commodities in the economy. Companies are essentially paying the laborer (supplier) less than cost for their lives (the product) in a buyer's market where the laborer has NO power (there are more people than jobs that pay enough for the definition of living wage set out above, so 'find one that does' is a retarded argument). Since the product is the very life of the laborer, a lack of a livable minimum wage should, in my opinion, be considered in opposition to one of the founding principles of this nation (right to life).

Present some, then?

Lol un-cooked. If some crime stats are cooked then how could you ever be sure yours weren't cooked, rather than just seeming more agreeable to you because of your confirmation bias?

Making drugs illegal makes fewer people do them. Making guns illegal would make fewer people use them. Case in point: rest of the first world.

But I don't actually believe in banning firearms, my ideal would be a licensing users, rather than legislating the weapons.

And precisely why would Any company, especially one staffed with chiseling MBAs, raise wages when they can get an adequate supply of interchangeable bodies at the current rate?
A large supply of Illegals to exploit means the bottom of the market can pay less-than subsistence, which means anyone legal is bidding against minimum-wage desperation, the downward wage pressure works it's way upwards as the Fucking MBAs destroy the Middle Class in the name of Shareholder Value...

because americans don't vote for them anymore

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Can you be so blind?
The labor market is fucked because of the large and growing supply of Illegal workers undermining the bottom end.
And you're advocating for the Elite bastards trying to reduce us ALL to Serfdom.

The vast majority of them don't. Stop listening to the fringe and pretending it's what everyone believes.

No. I'm advocating for the rich bastards to be absolutely forbidden from keeping their bottom end so low regardless of who they hire. A living wage does NOT help the fast cats, which is why they hate the idea so much.

Minimum wage set to enough for a full time worker to afford:
>Accommodation disciple for one
>Food for one
>Water, and other basic utility bills for one
>Clothing for one
And to remove corporate welfare entirely (no crutches for corporations), coupled with percentage-share penalties for any company found hiring illegals (share having value based on the company, even big corporations will hurt from this.

See above. Major reforms are needed to corporate law. Punish those who create the situation, not those who come to it out of desperation.

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>Democrats

I'll just leave this here.

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It is true that democrats continue to push for more criminals in prison to vote and more illegal immigrants allowed in and capable of voting. They are also pushing to allow minors who are more impressionable to the liberal media machine to vote. It's like they hate America and want everyone who hates America to have the power to help them overthrow the country. I hope these entitled, greedy, children never get their way. It will become just like the places these illegals are running from.

GOPs response to Parkland and Las Vegas sure as hell made that easy.

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He's literally Hitler!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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It just goes to show how much the democratic party has changed since Bill was in office. It's sad to see them use women and minorities to try and sway the votes and push for the lawless among us to have more power.

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Welp here comes the /pol/lack meme spam. Pls take it back to your containment board.

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Why do Republicans hate
>women
Sexism
>black folks
Racism
>Latinos
Racism
Fear of having to learn another language that isn't 'Murrikun
>gays
Fear that a gay man might be attracted to them, which would lead to confronting their own ACTUAL feelings on the issue (Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, etc)
>children
Regulating people's sex lives with the disingenuous "pro-life" stance (because if you're honest with yourself, you see that after they're born, Republicans don't give a FUCK about kids)

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more votes for them

Those are blanket statements that are hypocritically flawed just like being a racist or sexist is. Feeling the need to roll out the enemy marker for lack of facts?

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Exactly, the idea you're going to allow literal criminals and non-citizens vote is absolutely ridiculous, and yet the democrats are serious about it. None of those people have any right to fucking vote.

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>Fear of having to learn another language that isn't 'Murrikun
Why should Americans be forced to learn beaner talk? They should learn fucking English, or are you telling me spics are to fucking retarded to learn it? Everyone else learns English just fine, so why can't they do it?

Nice bait retard

Better question: could conservative views still generate majority votes if Democratic positions weren't continually lied about and distorted to the point of nonsense, like this, while Republican positions are consistently sugar-coated and obfuscated? I've only heard of one Democrat who wanted "open borders" and he's a kook.

Is this really what liberals think? We need to start making economics mandatory in public school.

yep. America is the developed nation with most guns per person, the least restrictions on licensing/military style weapons and the most homicides by ratio.

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Because most people evading Mexico are doing so to seek asylum from gang violence and mass poverty. sneaking in drugs is r

scratch that last part. Was gonna talk about how stupid the wall was for many reasons but it just requires common sense

They are down with the Globalist Agenda. The only reason Communism doesn't work is because other things work BETTER. So they feel they must eliminate everything that isn't communism. And when that's done, they will eliminate each other until only ONE communist faction exists. And the planet will be littered with human bodies because under Communism, everyone fucking starves to death.

The rest of the world has typically always had less freedoms and more oppressive governments. Good luck raiding the homes of 150+ million americans. Also we are already licensed in most states and have to pass background checks. What most dems want is an all out ban. Good. Fucking. Luck.

>to seek asylum from gang violence and mass poverty
Those things are not grounds are asylum. You need to stop telling your spics friends they can come here and apply for asylum because gangs refuse to stop killing each other over drugs and tacos.

>americans don't vote for us anymore

That must be she reason she was dog walking him in congress as speaker of the house.

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>Breitbart-fond

Discarded.

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>And why are "dreamers" being given FA meanwhile american born citizens have to fucking pay?
TBH this is what pisses me off the most. Those people shouldn't even be allowed to go to fucking college, and then they get money to go for fucking free on top of it. Then they wonder why everyone hates them so much.