What does Yea Forums think of the tv show Question Time?

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I think it's farcical.

Didn't he more or less say that civil war is going to happen in the UK.

95% of the time it's absolute shit. Not even the occasional spastic in the audience can make it funny enough to be bearable

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Probably, he's a fatuous enough old nonce to spout crap like that.

Our fucking congress allows an open border to mexico, its just as bad as the UK ignoring the brexit vote outcome.

is this the guy who played frodo

so has Yea Forums just become /pol/ lite at this point

Don't talk about your shit, this thread is for British viewers only.

Would be funnier if near-death Rhys-Davies was recognizable as the same man.

John Rhys Davies used to be a Marxist in his youth, but then he watched a Maggie Thatcher rally in the early 70s and became a conservative

He apparently attended it to heckle and became a supporter, which reveals what a glib shit-for-brains he must always have been.

>Push in one direction
>Opposing force appears
It's nature

>so has Yea Forums just become /pol/ lite at this point
i thought it had become Yea Forums lite

>talking about a tv show on tv

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Thatcher saved this country you ungrateful cunt. Go swallow Corbyn dick

It did that ages ago, though it varies.

>abiding by a public vote (the result of which you disagree with) is betraying democracy

Nice one, fake midge

this i fucking hate that vile anti-semite corbyn

That's a total myth. And why are you pretending to be British, Sergei?

i think britain should be nuked

that's not what he was saying was it? he meant that people should abide by the referendum's result

He's pro-Brexit, he thinks they've failed by not making it magically require no negotiation.

I think you sound bitter

My mistake

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bitter about what, britain's being a shithole? yeah i guess so

that's okay user i forgive you

he's also old enough to have seen few civil wars with his own eyes

imagine thinking the EU would ever let a big player like England leave peacefully. you lot will be getting nothing but shit trade deals until you give up or redo a referendum until stay wins

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We have a thread on /pol/ every Thursdays to watch it together. Come join us next time.

I was also in the audience on that episode when John Rhys was on.

the vote was years ago, the majority now is different

Why do they invite loudmouths like this guy on? Question Time, up until the early 90s at least, was a serious political show which would feature three or four politicians and one political journalist/commentator. It's now a show which averages two actual elected representatives and three rabble-rousers.

No it isn’t

imagine being ruled by the eu in the first place

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This is why it's all so fun to watch. The coverage of Parliament is like watching Shakespearian actors put on a children's pantomime. Brexit will never happen, it's just a question of how much piss needs to be taken out of its supporters first.

Except there hasn't been a proper negotiation. British leadership capitulated every single step of the way without good cause, which lead to the EU offering them the terrible deal they have done, which effectively fails to honour the referundum result anyway and effectively gives the EU it's very first colony.

Theresa May has been trying and failing to say this is the ONLY way Brexit could ever happen. The country knows she's lying, just like she lied when she said she'd stick to her red lines, or when she said we'd be out in March. The only thing she can do reliably is lie to her electorate.

The one good thing about all this is that it seems to be bringing to long overdue realignment to British politics. The mainstream parties haven't represented the people for the last 20 years. People are finally wising up to it.

>just keep waiting until the pakis take over and eventually we'll win the vote
so this is their strategy?

The sad part is the remoaners always claim to be all about democracy. Like the E.U. will ever listen to them in the slightest.

Because that specific episode, they had 1 person who voted to leave the EU then the other 4 people were remain voters.

Caroline Lucas: Remain
Vince Cable: Remain
Jon Ashworth: Remain
Victoria Atkins: Remain
John Rhys: Leave

So as you can see the BBC have no intention on making it a balanced panel. This happens very regularly.

not him but the eu is good paypigs
every day i pass by a children's playground that has a sing there that says it was built with eu money. the sign says that tiny playground cost 400 000 eur kek. imagine how many bureaucrats lined their pockets lol

favourite guest? David Starkey for me

Oh fuck off with this shit, nobody wants Brexit except thick bigots we should euthanize.

Most of the time they overrepresent Leave.

The sad part is that you think you'll ever get what you want.

>nobody
there was literally a referendum that you lost
what kind of mental illness is this where you don't believe people who disagree with you exist

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>nobody wants Brexit except thick bigots we should euthanize

You should think about euthanizing yourself for being so deluded as to think the majority don't want to leave the EU.

No, I know they exist, but I also know they don't count.

you can only talk about tv shows that agree with that particular posters political opinions.

Are all British people this dumb?

>Most of the time they overrepresent Leave.

You must be one of those people that uses twitter a lot. I see loads of those retards thinking QT has more leavers on the panel than remainers. Every single episode it'll have either 1 or 2 people that voted Leave and the Remain voting guests will always be 3 or more. I can't recall one episode that had 4 leave voters and 1 remain voter.

most of the campaign against the EU was based on lies which have subsequently been debunked

The EU will let more through after Brexit than before. This has happened because the UK is too cowardly to do what Hungary did. Hungary, a poorer country, simply repelled people at the border, then paid a fine. The UK, too scared to do that, is paying for it now. A pointless identity crisis, and it'll solve nothing - they'll still come flooding in.

I didn't say they weren't the majority.

You're commenting on a country you don't understand.

I'm not talking about QT, I'm talking about the coverage in general. Look at the nonsense of pretending that people flocking to the Lib Dems and the Greens means that people want the government to "get on with delivering Brexit". It's a joke.

>most of the campaign against the EU was based on lies which have subsequently been debunked

The most overused sentence that's always said. Bore off you clown.

>I didn't say they weren't the majority.

So why say the only people that want brexit are thick bigots? Maybe it's the remain voters that are the thick bigots

you're crazy if you think the average voter is compelled by facts and not emotions. this counts for both leave and remain voters btw, your band of faggots and muslims isn't immune to this

Im not commenting on the country im commenting on your stupidity

It’s shit. It’s a bunch of wankers trying to appeal to the brain dead masses. Nothing of importance is said there.

>So why say the only people that want brexit are thick bigots?
Because the majority of English people are thick bigots. Last year was the centenary of the universal franchise in Britain. You know how much TV coverage that anniversary got? Zero. It's not a democracy, it's a highly class-stratified society disguised as a democracy so that Woodrow Wilson could justify backing us over Germany in WWI (the Lusitania thing helped, of course). The government brought in the universal franchise, then immediately made sure that the majority of those votes could never count for anything by preserving the pre-democratic first-past-the-post electoral system. It's a SCAAAAAM.

The average English voter has no notion of their responsibility in a democracy. They're bigots, kept pacified by tabloid titty pics and binge drinking. Let them weep.

I wouldn't say Britain's problem is stupidity exactly, rather that we have a plague of average IQ people who've been overeducated and oversocialised. They internalise the narratives fed to them by every mainstream source, retcon it as their own opinion which they came to through logic and reason, and un-thing any dissenting viewpoint. Ted Kaczynski talks about this psychosis in a broader context in Industrial Society And Its Future

What do Pakis have to do with the EU?

Why would that have anything to do with what I said?

No, you'e commenting on a political situation you cannot possibly understand from the outside. The majority of British votes don't count. The electoral system we have is designed to make most of them invalid.

Just like every single piece of politics then?

>quoting the Unabomber
Fine, you're edgy.

Nothing, but the Russians don't know that.

This guy right here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Not a single original point that wasn't told to him by an authority figure, and he thinks he's the bold free thinker speaking truth to power.

and yet its 100% true

if the public was properly informed and not mislead then they would have stayed

Politics in a nut shell. The problem now is remainers keep saying we were told lies and the common person doesn't know very much about the EU and the consequences of us leaving but they in turn never explain it. The only thing it all seems to boil down to is major corporations will lose money.

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>British
>uses "this guy right here"
>accuses others of repeating authority figures' words

You're so enfeebled by Yankophilia that you quoted the Unabomber. Even the worst American is a hero to you. You're a virgin, fuck off.

you dont even know do you yet think you have an opinion of value, shut up you clueless fucking dense cunt.

Nah.

>unabomber
>worst american
pick one leftist faggot

Brexit won't save the UK. Farage is a jew puppet and """conservatives """ will flood the country with shitskin rapists aswell

>t. Southeast English ponce

I know your type. You cling to this rejection of "Americanness" (while unthinkingly accepting every premise of American liberalism) to compensate for your complete lack of authentic identity. You will never read anything by an American scholar for fear of being corrupted, because you know deep down that they'd be writing on a blank slate. You have no understanding of what it is to be English.

The Conservatives have always been pretty dogshit, even at their best. But the current generation of their politicians seriously need to be put out to pasture. If nothing else I'm glad Farage is the one shepherding them away.

Yes, based EU will save Europe with Islam and Marx!!

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You know nothing. You don't read scholars, you read the Unabomber. Yes, I understand the English perfectly, they're thick bigots.

so why is their capitol now minority white?

He didn't reject Americanness mate, he just pointed out your virginity.

Powell was decent tbf, his shortcomings were things that are kind of baked into the cake with conservatives in general. By nature, they lack imagination, lack fervent belief, lack a sense of urgency. They have such strong, unshakeable faith in the status quo that they become utterly impotent when it's in crisis.
In those circumstances it takes a radical to turn things around, and radicals normally gravitate to the left. This is why so many man-against-time archetypes have been defectors from the left like Mussolini. They have the psychology to commit to radical change where a conservative will not.

Why do you think that pointing out that the English are too thick to keep a foothold in London somehow invalidates my observation that they're thick bigots?

The whole USA is minority white

If they were bigots why are all the cities full of non whites, they would be white.

People aren't "archetypes". Listening to Jonathan Bowden audios won't make you a real boy, pig.

BASED and iron lady-pilled

This unironically

Because they're *thick* bigots. Can you understand that phrase?

You have not a single original thought that wasn't given to you prepackaged by a university lecturer or a talking head on the TV. You reject out of hand any writer who wasn't pitched to you as an Approved Source. You have no capacity for self-reflection, you fear and hate anything which might enrich your soul, you are likely completely disconnected from nature and your fellow man.

Having a majority of thick bigots doesn't have anything to do with the racial makeup of the capital city.

>american
>liberalism
>fathers of liberalism are majority British
ohohohoh no no no no

when has a radical EVER turned something 'around', they cause centuries of needless suffering and damage because of egotism and self righteousness. At the heart of conservatism/traditionalism is the veneration of ancestors which is probably THE defining trait of all European cultures. The only peopel who fear their past are the immoral and the wicked, if you act in a way that honours your ancestors you are not afraid of your past, and such people are honest and accountable.

>Projecting this hard.

You have to laugh at anti Brexit Americans. As if they’d like taking their marching orders from Mexico and having open borders with them...oh wait they do lmao

So your saying we should love the immigrants who live on welfare dont work continually rape our children and change the way of life in the places they move to?

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You have not a single original thought that wasn't given to you by that queer in the jumper on YouTube, or Jonathan Bowden.

>british classical liberalism: property rights and democracy
>american liberalism: open borders and drag queens

>live on welfare
Why are you pretending to be British?

And if you're one of those sad British people who uses Americanisms, why are you pretending to be poor?

>forced to live with muslims and niggers
>turn into a racist

Who would have thought?

>they're thick bigots

Thinking like this is exactly why the establishment is in the precarious position it is in. It simply isn't true. The vast majority of people, even working class, aren't racist or prejucided. They're just sick of having the ladder constantly pulled from under them, to the benefit of foreign governments. They're sick of having leaders that hate them, both here and in Brussels. They're sick of having no power to fix things for themselves, and they're sick of those better off laughing at them for it. Thick? Maybe. You might have a point. How the fuck are people supposed to get a quality education when the government destroys funding for state schools. You know, the schools in charge of educating that population that you constantly deride for being "thick"?

Britian is a really fucking horrible case of the cutting of your nose to spite your face. No one here denies that things are in decline, and have been for the last 50 years. They'll continue in that fashion until something drastic changes. I think ending the constant hate of our fellow countrymen would be a really good way to start, but you won't ever see it in the paper.

You’re right the uk is way too cucked lmao

The British bureaucracy/police force is probably the most corrupt out of any western nation.

I would seriously defy any anons here to dispute it. Shit like rape gangs being covered up for fear of being called racist (and the cops fucking admit that is the reason).
It's proof of how highly cucked the bongs are they haven't formed vigilante gangs over it, but they are so terrified.

Germany lost to us twice in wars and are beaten again with Brexit lmao

Enjoy your rapefugees Eur*cuck

Well thats what our government calls it.

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Conservative is as much a personality trait as it is a political alignment. Arguably more so, it's just that conservative people prefer tried-and-true ways of doing things, and therefore prefer tradition, even if they don't have a complete understanding of what those traditions are or why they exist.
To be clear, I'm not putting conservatives down. Most people are conservative, and that's how a stable social order is preserved. A country full of radicals would be a mess.

Where conservatives fail is when that stable social order is no longer a good thing. As we see today, they look at a particular system which is clearly working against their interests, and continue to defend it because it's the status quo. Sure they might advocate for some reform round the edges, a redrawing of electoral boundaries here, an increase of police powers there, but they'll never address the fundamentals because they can't imagine a world without them.

Radicals don't necessarily create good or bad outcomes, but they do make change. Lenin was a radical. Hitler was a radical. Caesar was a radical.

It doesn't need negotiation. Any situation where you make deals with the eu requires compromise aka surrendering our sovereign power. The eu is totalitarian, it was obvious from the start that any deal made would be simply deciding what level of influence they have over us in the future.

The establishment isn't in a precarious position. You're mistaking Britain for one of those countries where what the people think can effect the lives of the powerful. You also seem to have caught the American idea that thinking positive thoughts will turn shit into clay. Telling the truth isn't "hate".

They aren't having the ladder pulled from under them. They're powerless because of the British class system. Mainland Europe has countries that believe in representative democracy, Britain regards it with contempt. These are simply facts. I'm not blaming the thick bigots for being thick bigots. They've been intentionally kept that way. Look at what I wrote here again: The fact is, feeling sorry for them doesn't alter their nature. If you spend a century working to make sure people know nothing of the value of their vote, then spend forty-something years testing the theory that they'll vote however the Sun tells them to as long as there's a nice pair of tits on the inside facing page, they will turn into the only thing that could logically result: thick bigots.

Not true. The BBC only focuses on the economic aspects because that's the only argument in favor of remain. The economic arguments for leave were mostly debunked, however they came from Farage, not the official campaign.

It was obvious from the start that if you're a cartel, and you leave the cartel, the cartel is not going to give you better terms in future. That would defeat the point of having a cartel.

Stop trying to give speeches on a Mongolian knitting forum, you anus.

Yes, reality is the only argument in favour of Remain. I notice that you spell favour the American way, because you're an American or a Russian who learned English to shitpost about Hillary.

*in a cartel

Day of kebab removal soon, Ahmed.

if they were bigots they would be angry about that situation instead of apathetic. the problem with britain and the wider west is that people aren't bigoted enough. they're too tolerant, too passive, too accepting of things that are obviously wrong. we need more bigots, especially those willing to make sacrifices for the good of their race

Be great to see this old cunt's eyes blackened until they're tender as cunt flesh.

>Why would that have anything to do with what I said?
you gonna pretend to be retarded now boy? helluva an approach to conversation

They're angry as fuck, they aren't lacking in anger, it's just that their anger is impotent.

>Read Arrow's Theorem, people!!

What? Arrow's Impossibility Theorem has got fuck all to do with--

Oh, shit. What an utter pseud. The worst kind of person.

I can see his is a pointless argument if you won't even have the decency to discuss the idea in an adult way. And the spelling is because I'm phone posting, but keep believing the bbc lie that everyone who opposes the approved viewpoint is a Russian bot lol. I'm off to down vote captain marvel on rotten tomatoes.

still relevant

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Explain the connection you think the bizarre thing you said had to what you were replying to.

It could literally be done with no negotiations. The UK could say "lol see you later fags" and not honor any of the EUs mandates. What's the EU going to do, invade the UK with their non army? inb4 "muh economic consequences", some things are more important than jew gold.

Stop pretending to be people, jizzmop.

that's what happens when you have no guns and no will to use them

I'd say that preferring 'tried and true' ways of testing things is very much a trait of most radicals who usually understand politics and economics to a much lesser extent and are reliant on the same means of rule every time. Also conservatives can be very innovative especially during wars and conflict, and they create the stability needed for the right minds to get educated and inspired. Sure a conservative might have trouble getting from step 5 to step 6, but a radicall simply goes to step 1 back up to 3 quickly. Ultimately both radicalism and conservatism fulfil a generation's sense of self importance and worth, for conservatives it is about them getting richer, feeling secure and knowing their place and for radicals it's about feeling in control in the now. We don't actually have any political system as yet that is selfless and cares only for future generations, which is what we should strive for, but in a sense that wouldn't even be politics, since politics is achieving self interests among many.

>It could literally be done with no negotiations.
So far, my "all pro-Brexit people have an infant's understanding of economics" theory is 100% watertight.

Americans have guns, what are they doing about the open border? Oh yeah, whining, just like the English gammons.

Yep.

The average person does not care about what trade deals mega corporations can get there are plenty of countries outside the EU who are doing fine why would britain suddenly fall into chaos? and as he said some things are more important than money.

>there hasn't been a proper negotiation. British leadership capitulated every single step of the way without good cause

You're the kind of retard that thinks the UK can just walk up to the EU and demand whatever it wants and then gets pissy when EU says no, you don't get to pick all the cherries on top, that's not how you negotiate, you seek a mutually suitable compromise. The EU has been more than fair in the negotiations. Rhe fault is entirely on the UK and pro-Brexit folk not having any type of unified view of what Brexit even fucking means. They just want it and every person has a vague, completely delusional vision of what it means, usually tied go delusions of returning to the old British Empire's glory days.

Ahhh the "muh economy" argument.

went to shit after Fiona Bruce took over. but was going to shit for a long time. the audience is just a representation of the average mong that lives in the UK.

there are citizen border patrols out there as we speak. they also elected a president who said he was going to build a literal wall to keep subhumans out; unfortunately he turned out to be a liar, but he was elected on that promise none the less

Look how angry all the Europeans and Remainers are in this thread lmao

Fuck Merkel and fuck EU

100% watertight.

hahaaaa

If he really believed that some things were more important than money, he wouldn't have been a Thatcherite.

Exactly.

Many Britains don't know anything because its all behind closed doors we don't know what deals May has tried with the EU or what the EU has said in response.

The U.K. should never have had a Remainer negotiating. It’s insane.

Toyota negotiating a buy out with Ford wouldn’t but the CEO of Ford in charge

>we don't care about the economic consequences British Sovereignty is more important
>"LOL THESE GUYS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES"
You're a fucking spastic mate.

Let me put it another way. Would you agree to share your house with people from down the street? You've never met them and they've never met you. Would you agree to let them sleep in your bed, watch your tv or take food from your fridge? What about if you were given some money to compensate?
Whatever your answer, surely you agree that 'no' is a perfectly logical and sound answer to such a proposal.

You have to go back.

The only person getting angry was the Jonathan Bowden listener who objected to the perfectly accurate observation that the English are thick bigots.

The EU is our largest trading partner, we need some sort of deal with them. If we leave with no-deal, the problems of the backstop, divorce money and citizens right will still be there, except now we'd be desperate for a deal because we just jumped out of the plane without a parachute. No-deal doesn't exist, it's not feasible at all (if it was, it would have been done already).

Can you explain to me the deal back in January that was voted against? Which caused Corbyn to issue a vote of no confidence

No, I just understand that nobody who understands the economic consequences would shrug them off. It's the classic English pleb "don't bother me with the facts" attitude.

What about the guy who called me a russian bot because of autocorrect? That guy is 100% seething, you can see with every word he types.

They're allowed to be thick bigits as much as they like in their own country mate, and they in a democracy they have a say in what direction they want their country to go in.

The situation you're describing bears no resemblance to any part of the relationship between the UK and the other EU nations.

The funny thing is the U.K. is still growing faster than the Eurozone

>muh economy

BTFO!

Besides I couldn’t care less if Brexit does weaken GDP by 2%. Only people in the City will fee it and they’re Remainers anyway

No

/pol/ wants to kill pedo's. Yea Forums is full of pedo's.

What, are the poor working class going to get suddenly more poor? Spastic.

I recognise your writing style.

You’re the seething German on /pol/ who makes pro EU threads every 10 minutes.

Tell that to Swindon and Sunderland. If anything London will feel the least of the crash.

Have sex

But you are a Russian bot, Pavel.

That's because Londonistan may as well be a city in another country.

If you're a Brexiter and under the age of 55 you were probably bullied at school and should have sex.

What kind of deal do Gibralta, Hong Kong, Iceland, India, Norway, Russia, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, USA have with the EU?
why does every country in the world inside and outside the EU have a deal with the EU and britain are somehow finding it so difficult?

Certainly. See pic.

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As a labour voter that’s grown out of student politics and has the benefit of seeing how the EU and socialism actually turns out (spoiler not cool for whitey or anyone that wants a cohesive nation) yeah she was pretty based despite the pain innocent people had to go through

>why does every country in the world inside and outside the EU have a deal with the EU and britain are somehow finding it so difficult?

because of TM's red lines and the Irish border you mong.

Britain isn't a democracy.

Yes, they are.

I've never been to /pol/.

based Professor Sallah

ok,ill try to do a votin count for brexit aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it doesnt matter you are an permenant EU bitch for life now

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meant for

Because Britain wants to "sit at the top table", which most of the countries you've named don't, and the only reason Britain keeps its place at that table is its unique position as the only economically powerful English-speaking EU member state. Outside the EU, it has a lot less to offer others.

The only border the EU cares about is a border no one cares about.

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Definately the butthurt Germanfag.

That's it. If only someone had had the courage to say this, a lot of time-wasting could have been avoided.

I see this argument all the time but no evidence to back it up.

You want someone to prove to you that an asset is an asset and a loss a loss?

When asked why he wasin the Dungeons Siege movie he said

I'd never had a vacation on BC Canada

It boggles my mind why any country would give up independent trade policy. Specially for the UK, who can trade with the USA

>2019
>Britain still begging for mercy from the Germans
I swear, you guys never learn anything...

I want someone to prove to me that brexit voters thought they would still sit at the top of the EU table whilst leaving the EU.

Nobody cares about Brexit except for retard Brits, stop posting as if we care. sage

>Nobody cares about the Irish border

It will literally threaten the Good Friday peace deal, you fucking idiot. It could incite a new era of IRA terrorism if they have to put on physical border between the land controlled by Ireland and the UK.

Trade is a bit more complex than just "well we'll just buy from America instead!"

You have to go back

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John Rhys Davies is one of the most red pilled actors I've seen, Check out his video interview on western civilization on utube.
I'd put him in charge of the country as dictator.

fuck off slave

America GPD is more that all of the EU. It will not be simple but it give the UK a stronger standing.

Implying (((economics))) will apply after we nuke Israel.

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It has always been controlled and limited thought where they provide the boundaries of talking points, and a leftist audience boos and claps to steer the reaction and thoughts of the viewer.
It's worthless, use your own heads and think for yourselves. Stop depending on other people to tell you what to think.

It is almost always that ratio, 4 to 1, with the 1 being the bbc's hand picked "alternative" that still stays centrist and barely over the line, who just sits there to receive the boos so they can have the illusion of debate. It's theatre.

he should slide to a better reality

>I miss blacked threads

if Trump is not building the wall and putting little spic kids in cages and concentration camps then why is it on the news all the time saying he is?

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It's funny that EUfags think they're being anti establishment

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kill yourself kike-mouthpiece

Your angry because the EU meddling will fuck up a peace deal between two countries? It just shows what a huge clusterfuck the EU is.

no, he's right. you're just a boring, mindless turd that could be replaced with any tabloid.
you regurgitate rhetoric and that's it. you have no value whatsoever.

because much of the media is run by democrats

doublespeak is a helluva catnip

You are so foolish. Do you know what was a lie? That the EU would just be a financial alliance. Now you are ruled by unelected officials that behave as puppets for the wealthy and powerful.

You are pathetic. Of course you want to be ruled like the slob who can not take care of himself you are. Boomers are right about your generation.

>EU meddling

There would be no issue if the UK wasn't leaving and refusing to allow the free movement between the UK and EU territories. It's also the UK's fault that they cannot commit to the backstop safety measure designed to guarantee that the free movement Ireland and Northern Ireland that would keep the peace. The EU is not the bad guy here, it's the UK.

all the rampant Brexiters who voted because of immigration forget that if they want all their old age entitlements then you're gona have to take in a shitload of immigrants to pay for them. All this is gona do is replace Eastern Europeans with cunts from India and Pakistan then they will be reeeing all over again.

and you're the nonce who'll roll over for the Paks and other random foreign cunts, won't you, Nigel?

top kek, the only good thing about Jezza is that he's pilled on the Juwes.