Has the emergance of the alt-right and /pol/ changed your views? It's made me more liberal

It was one of the key factors in transitioning me from a libertarian to an ethno-nationalist. I cam to the realization that the libertarian utopia I envisioned could only theoretically work in a country with a super-majority of white people. Thus, the only way to smash the state is 1488.

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Being white isn't anything special

i have to call you a newfag then.

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Oh I see you're just trolling. Even now you can't find any threads

Alt-right isn't a thing you communist.

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screaming communist at things you dont agree with immediately identifies you as alt-right...

Quite literally white people giving each other pats on the back

newfag

because /pol/ is full of prize winners kek

awful lot of native americans winning the nobel prize i guess...

sure buddy

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All right. Show me a thread

Not me, asshole.

its ok man, we all know what that lead pill does to you people...

That can be interpreted both ways

show you a thread: newfag

cope

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Because voting for a totalitarian dictatorship, instead of a military coup makes it moral!

Nah, I can't be swayed by idiots. I'm liberal on some things and conservative on other things. Only a fool chooses to tote the line no matter what.

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They did so sort of indirectly in my case.
It was seeing them butting heads with the far left that enabled me to see the authoritarian streak in socialists. So I left anarchosocialism behind and became an antiauthoritarian anarchist instead.
Their mutual squabbles has also led to me considering identity politics a form of divide and conquer technique, that does more to harm us than to help us.

You don't know history, get back in class, kid. Learn something.

Racial identity politics is the natural end result of multiculturalism.

>Made me more liberal?
Either you Libertarian or you actually mean more liberal. Which is not a good thing.unless if you're aware of how fucked things are and trying to accelerate matters

You say that like it's a fact.

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Poltards, liberals, extremists, white powers, "we wuz crusaderz", right wings, left wings ....

you're all fucking retarded. I've completely pulled out of "politics" (daytime soap opera) because there's no point. You effect nothing. You change nothing. Your voice does not matter in this system.

The only thing people can do to see "impact" is shooting a bunch of people for no reason, and it's always white people doing it.

Most of the things that people spend their life taking seriously, I just can't understand it anymore. What do I gain by watching the circus, when I could be working on things that actually affect my life, like my body, mind, spirit, education, skills, training?

I get that people want to feel "in control" but theres no such thing. I feel like I'm watching a bunch of idiots scramble for peace and understanding and it somehow takes the form of politics.

Build your own life. Stop voting for somebody to build it for you.

hint: they won't

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It make me realize the hypocrisy of liberals.
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>how fucked things are
Meme perception doesn't count

amren.com/news/2011/10/diversity_destr_2/

Diversity destroys social trust and cohesion. It is perfectly moral, healthy, and natural to find greater affinity with those who are genetically closer to yourself.

It's really a fact.

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It's conservatives that control people's lives

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It's made me pretty centrist. Realised that both lefties and rightists are NPC cucks who suck the cock of their Kike overlords. Funny thing is that some alt-right anti-kike brainlets don't realise they are actually helping to bring in shekels to their Shekelsteins

SEE:

This is Yea Forums please go

pretty based tbh

I feel you user

Are you conflating being a liberal with being an sjw?
Because that is handing the authoritarian left a label that doesn't actually describe them and robbing liberal minded people of a position.

That's literally meme tier propaganda.

It has definitely pushed me farther to the left, and now I vote against every single republican regardless.

the anti jewish thing is an indicator someone is literally retarded

Op here. I'm not even against Republicans or conservatives. It's seriously just the super autistic alt right who gets there political views from memes and walls of propaganda images on the internet

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Not at all, I don’t even take there shit seriously when a topic like race or sexuality come up on /pol/. Those individual characters don’t matter and is honestly just silly because they end up repeating themselves about those topics.

and you should call abort(), free yourself from slavery botnet user!

Me too, OP.

Conservatives have never been willing to compromise, but these alt-right assholes don't even want a representative government.

They MUST be fought, we cannot allow them even a single inch because their only goal is destruction of the union.

Made me more openly liberal. The more alt-right shit I see the more aggressively pro-everyone else I am.

Sheep

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The President takes them seriously, and so do a bunch of local police and state governments.

It's time to take the threat seriously, you're not going to be laughing when they finally come around to fucking your life up.

>its made me more liberal
This. Whiny nu college liberals are bad but nothing feels slimier than some greased up half white telling me how evil everyone besides the whites are. It wreaks of fantasy larp, insecurity and retold narrative.
Inb4 joo

Something makes OP more liberal but user says something equally offensive makes them more alt right and that's not fair? Stop being such a faggot.

I genuinely believe it's a mixture of larpers and people who can't tell it's a larp

Equally offencive? Your perception is literally fucked sideways

Follow up: yknow, sometimes i wonder if /pol/ was just a psyop to make us stray farther from true conservatism. If youve ever talked to a real shill before, they act like basically any /pol/ack youve ever spoken to minus the countless slurs, of course.

imagine all the buttseks going on on the alt-right side.

>Doesn't follow alt-right propaganda
>actively avoids and resists the loudest political movement
>must be a sheep

LOL, you're just fucking stupid enough to be a Trump supporter.

this. The alt right Utopia isn't Freedom at all. Anyone with a dissenting opinion would be purged if they had their way

See
But also, underrated. Couldnt agree more. Spending any sort of time there is unbearable as fuck. They just want to circlejerk, nothing else. It almost over the same thing every time, too.

If memes did not have a tinge of truth, the EU would not have banned it.

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>whiny nu college liberals

You stink of ignorance and jealousy.

FYI, the largest student group at UC BERKELEY is the Young Republicans. Universities have been systematically defunding liberal arts and investing in law, engineering and medical research that is PROFITABLE to the University.

This has been going on for decades, universities are not havens of education, they are Capitalist ventures now. The organization and leadership of universities is INCREDIBLY Conservative, your prejudices are about 2 decades out of date. Get some real fucking experience instead of whining about bullshit you don't come close to understanding.

What is your take on the authoritarian left?
Also I'm not the user you were arguing with just now.

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Your stament about blindly following anyone who is against a certain group regardless who they are is the talk of a sheep. Bahhh

There is no authoritarian left in the US. Cubans still vote Republican because they don't understand that politics differ between nations.

Are you as stupid as they are?

>blindly following
>supporting your opponents

LOL, nice strawman you desperate faggot

The "Alt-Right" is a stupid term created by the media to lump the opposition together into an easy to blame boogeyman.
Funny how many retards embraced it.

If /pol/ taught me anything, it's to not blindly accept anything as fact regardless of who's telling you.

Sorry, but only read half. There isnt a group i dont hate and its obvious that this hate for specific groups causes a rise in you. Thats youre problem. Im going to think poorly of all groups, regardless of how theyre portrayed or defended. A lot of my friends are liberals and thats fine but to say that all liberals are perfect is far from true, full stop.

hear hear

It's this. The Pepe contingent here thought the internet was real and now they carry green flags and wear swastikas and say things like Nazis aren't real lol. Fully fuckin owned online so hard you remap your whole life trajectory to complaining and never getting fucked

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How about this. Go back there you aren't welcome here faggot.

the alt right are a joke,i dont care

Hate is like AIR here, you're not remotely interesting or novel just for surrendering to your base emotions.

Ignorance is what bothers me, you fucking moron.

you don't see political threads on Yea Forums at all times?

this is fucking one of them...

The mindless will only fight against, never for somthing. Your such a rebel. Your making me stiff keep going ...baaahhh

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Yes. I used to hate all non-whites. Since the alt-right happened, I realized that I was wrong. Now I hate anyone who isn't me. I hope you all die.

>the media

if trump and his supporters have taught america anything,its that more people care what the media says then a bunch of manchildren who call themselves trump supporters

It's just a joke to you because your life hasn't been ruined by them yet, but if you gave a shit about other people you might care.

Keep laughing until it's your turn, retard.

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Not what echochamber means.

Commie and natsoc threads aren't making an echochamber if they oppose each other.

Individual threads can be one but people tend to argue in those threads.

Who we talking about? Niggers?

You'll probably kill yourself soon, luckily. Hate is a poison and you are killing yourself with it already.

It's a handy little evolutionary tool our society has to get rid of people like you.

Oh well.

>Are you as stupid as they are?
Nah, I'm just an antiauthoritarian anarchist.
To me, the use of intersectional thinking to assign groups with specific immutable traits as unilaterally oppressive, is authoritarian.
Especially if you base laws on it.

Yeah, transgender pornography and white supremacist banter is about the same level of offensive to most people. You liberal slang, you clearly don't go outside much into the real world.

Niggers, Mexicans, farmers, factory workers, and everyone else who has been devastated by Trump's trade wars and his oppressive and abusive policies.

Maybe you don't fucking care when children die in cages, but that's cause you're not fully human any more.

I've probably been here longer than you have
I haven't really gone to /pol/ since the election

I don't trust what either of them has to say

I like how you're so insecure you had to say that

Fundamentalist ideology is useless in the real world.

Make yourself feel better with all your impossible and retarded ideals, but none of that will ever help a single person in reality.

At some point you have to decide whether you're going to effect the world or just WHINE at it.

You definitely have not. Especially if you have ever loaded /pol/. Go back there. You don't really "get" "it".

Travel the world a little. Your faith in man will be lost soon also. No one cares about you besides maybe 10 people if your luckey. Grow up stop being mad at the effects be mad at the causes.

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summer in coming you know...

man just go on the b front page, and there is subreddit finder but its called catalog. Click on it and look at all subreddits. Good luck with aclimatizating on this autistic site! ;)

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it's made me aggressively right wing

this is what a troll does when he can't show you a single thread

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That's a whole lot of baseless assumptions. Is that how you protect your own fragile worldview?

Stop being a stupid fucking faggot, I've traveled more than 99.999% of Trump supporters.

>subreddits

Kek I am the same. Was gently conservative before. Now I'm fashy.

I bet you've never even touched a passport let alone own one

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Apparently it is, so says the left anyways.

It definitely helped me see that anyone subscribing to traditional Judaism should be killed, theyre just too dangerous to the rest of the non Jew world.

As we should, considering how well we do compared to almost every other group in the world.

Nope thats just from a dumb white kid who tryied saving the world by being a volunteer then watched everyone getting raped and killed. I just hope you grow up. I watched a guy try to rape a 8 yr girl and got told not to intervene becaue i dont understand the culture. Fuck them all

FYI, my wife is British, we've lived in England, China and Canada and traveled to a dozen Central and South American countries. My family reunion is in the Bahamas in less than a month.

I've had more life experience than your entire inbred family.

Underrated post and all true

here you go
just found by keywords trump, liberalism and conservativism. Didnt even scrollfind them

Yeah, pretty fucking stupid all right, though that's normal for kids.

What's surprising is that your will was so fucking fragile it was immediately shattered and you devolved into a completely lost cause.

No fucking SHIT the world isn't perfect, I didn't have to travel to know or SEE that kinda shit.

White guy in ny i had to have a passport its like a rite of passage. All the fucking cool kids have one

No one attacks more than the left these days which forces more people to the right

>Has the emergance of the alt-right and /pol/ changed your views? It's made me more liberal.
No, because my political philosophy has been pretty consistent for over 20 years. I'm a philosophical mutt. I'm a capitalist liberal. Meaning, I believe we have everything we need, we're just using it wrong.

Years ago, when I was trying to answer these questions about myself, I found out I'm a Moral Relativist. I can change my mind depending on the political situation. The better things are,, the more conservative I am. The worse it is, the more liberal I get. I don't like to see peoples rights fucked with, and I don't like to see people suffer economically when it's due to mismanagement.

this

Have you ever tried to help the fucking slums of Argentina or brazil when your visited. Maybe tried to hook up genrators to the fucked up half backwards power systems. Or stop them from running the genys in the house but they were to scared of them being robed. Its two separate worlds. God get a grip

You're pretty much on the same page as i am. Last question do you think Jews are evil and control the world and everything

>uncontrolled migration

Only someone speaking from PURE IGNORANCE could ever say this.

I spent over $10,000 and 10 years getting citizenship for my wife, during which time we were told we were going to be deported because the USPS put the wrong postage amount on one of our dozens of evidence submissions.

You need enough money to support an immigrant for 3 years because they're not typically allowed to work during that time, so the idea of "immigrants stealing muh job" is just an obvious LIE.

MOST illegal immigration is from Europeans overstaying their legal visas, which still doesn't actually hurt anyone.

You people are fucking scum.

Yea but it was the idea that its just not a big deal dont do anything becaue its not your job after we got told we would bring assistance without discrimination

Yes, I've done community work in the Caribbean where people have never even seen a while person before. Do you think this is limited to the slums of Argentina and Brazil?

There are illiterate people in the Appalachians dying of preventable diseases too.

It's NOT two separate worlds, it's all one world where poor people are being limited by social investment and international finance. Maybe travel some more and you might figure that out.

>You're pretty much on the same page as i am. Last question do you think Jews are evil and control the world and everything
"The Jews", no. Israel is a problem. And I really dislike individual militant jews. They're as bad as militant Christians, and militant Islams. Any faith that is militarized is bad. Religion should not be tax exempt, and should not be allowed in government or school. I think religion can do good things for a community, but when they gang up and try to get laws passed, they can fuck off.

Your job is to provide the help you can and not endanger future assistance. It's not an easy job and somebody should have made sure you were actually prepared.

You could be a social worker in the US and experience the exact same problems.

This, thanks user. Sometimes it feels like I'm taking crazy pills. Glad to see there are other reasonable people out there.

So you have all that knowledge but think the us border is that bad????.. im confused. The holding center in like a 5 star hotel compared to the everyday life they run from. Are you still upset about your wife's fucked teeth or are you just mad i said you don't travel?

you are describing legal immigration, not migration. No one is complaining about the hoops your mail order bride had to hop through.

>Fundamentalist ideology is useless in the real world.
I agree, that's why I oppose identity politics, no matter where they come from, because in the end they are always predicated on identifying an other and blaming everything on them.
>Make yourself feel better with all your impossible and retarded ideals, but none of that will ever help a single person in reality.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. In my view getting offended on the behalf of other people and assuming the moral high ground based on it, is the epitome of unhelpful.
It is not only the assumption that whichever group you are invoking is inferior and unable to defend itself, it is also the assertion that it needs your superior self to defend them.
Which is my beef with the intersectional left, they use benevolent broad stroking prejudices, to call out malevolent broad stroking prejudices. Which is essentially agreeing with the far right, that a given group is inferior, but arguing about whether that inferiority merits helping or rejecting that group.
Now I don't know what ideals it is you think I subscribe to, but your reply makes me think you guessed wrong.
Oh and just to make clear, if I want to feel better about myself, I don't do it by assuming everyone else to be bigoted and fascist and calling them out on it online. I do it by volunteering for projects that help homeless people and other projects that improve my local area for everyone living there.
>At some point you have to decide whether you're going to effect the world or just WHINE at it.
So when I call out authoritarian identitarians on the right alongside you it affects the world, but if I do the same to the left it's whining?

American policy should not be standardized to nations we are taking ASYLUM SEEKERS from, that's possibly the stupidest thing anyone said in this thread.

I hope you finally find love and have a child of your own so someone can lock it in cage til it dies.

>I'm an authoritarian anarchist
>but I totally oppose identity politics

Get the fuck outta here, retard

Lmao faggot, imagine using a bunch of retards to form your political views instead of professionals, read mein kampf and the doctrine of fascism

I was good for the the first 5 trips i went on then we went to this shithole outside of dharamshara In india i was just blind to it till then i guess

You're literally retarded if that's where your political views come from.

The alt right has made people understand that all races should be nationalistic
youtu.be/VZqBZmjUBUk

>professional opinion
>Mein Kampf and doctrine of fascism

LMFAO, you're so fucking stupid you don't even know what a professional is.

FYI, Obama had more professional advisers on staff than any President in history and Trump has NONE.

>I came here legally so what do you mean illegal immigration?
Reading comprehension, the post

>not typically allowed to work
In the USA a condition for green cards is stable employment.

>stealing jobs is a lie
Wage stagnation and cheap labour are not problems of today? Are you concerned about IS jobs going to China thanks to all their cheap labour? If so, why do you defend the importation of that same labour?

>most illegals
And the minority from spic countries is causing the majority of problems. Also, Europeans are not settling in America more than spics. The white population is shrinking.

>me and my wife came here
Spic, the post.

Yea Forums was never good
your new is showing

I got into a conversation with someone and they unironically talked about how bad things were in miami compared to chicago bc miami was a huge melting pot, so people had identity issues and were constantly fighting each other, different types of latinos vs each other vs blacks. Chicago is super segregated in comparison.

Go back to Europe then

Mexico needs to establish a presence on the border. A lot of this shit is happening because Mexico won't bother to stop those migrants, card them, and establish detention centers of their own. Mexico wants to be respected, sees 10,000 people hanging off trains, and allows them to pass right through. Understandably, they can't detain their own people, but they can detain foreign people who have no passport within their borders. They're willing to get into a trade war because their policy of migration is lazy. Hire some fucking cops, Mexico.

He meant professions as in people who achieved something rather than Obama's staff who were "qualified" but hardly professional.

Also trump has seen a healthy growth in the job market whilst Obama saw the slowest recovery ever and added 9 trillion dollars to the national debt.

>I'm an authoritarian anarchist
Antiuathoritarian user, that anti part is rather important to convey the meaning of the label.
>but I totally oppose identity politics
So my refusal of taking the authority to decide whether a person is oppressed or oppressive based on their immutable traits contradicts my being an antiauthoritarian anarchist?

>thinking America isn't a legitimate white nation in its form, origin, conception and identity.

Dont have to i have 3 kids with my wife of 15 years. You sr jump to conclusions to quickly. I live in ny i have refuges i help out on a daily basis. I work in utility i want to help people who legally cross like the 1500 somalian that we just got in. My wife is cps evaluator. I literly live in melting pot of the world

Oh and you forgot to check my dubdubquads.

They economically have trouble suporting a average citizen so its a burden to suport others. They will rather just push them to our front door.

>uncontrolled migration means it's illegal

Nope, you're just fucking stupid as hell.

>a condition is

Yeah, BUT IT'S NOT TYPICAL, most people can't get a job before they're even in the country.

>wage stagnation and cheap labor is due to immigration

A complete lie that has been proven false many times, where is your source for such a bullshit claim?

>non-white minorities commit more crime

WRONG AGAIN FUCKO. Your prejudices have been debunked multiple times and recently. Conservative white Trump supporters are far more likely to commit crimes including terrorism.

>more racism
My family moved to this land before the US existed, and we came from Britain you stupid fucking retard.

Being on here and /pol/ made me question everything, them come all the way back around to not giving a fuck cause everyone is trash. Everyone is stupid and has their own stupid ideals that they won't get rid of. If anything it made me hate both sides and realise that everything has some value but also some drawbacks. There is no perfect systems anywhere, time ruins all anyway. Just enjoy what you can and don't ruin it for others

>contradicts

no, you moron, I never suggested anything of the sort.

Do you even understand the words you're using?

Look at dem 1's

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No, it just reinforces what I have known for over 20 years, the right is retarded.

>being so amazingly ignorant of history but still proud and self-righteous.

Fucking disgusting.

Native Americans governed this land for thousands of years before Europeans, and their model of a Confederation of represented tribes is exactly what the US government and all other modern representative governments are based on.

You don't deserve to be American, get the fuck out.

Then you're ignorant as well as an idiot.

This is what is ruining /B. I can remember when this actually WAS a wretched hive of scum and villainy, now it's just porn and /pol faggotry. /B used to raid people so badly it made the evening news for fucks sake! Now it just goes: FB/Insta porn thread, trap thread, pictures you shouldn't share thread, thread about how much you frog niggers hate normal niggers, rinse and repeat.

how 2 build your life, real advice seeking

Alright, how is my opposition to identity politics while being an antiauthoritarian anarchist retarded?
Instead of calling me names, why don't you tell me what you think I am doing wrong instead?

Yes, the tribes that exterminated other tribes, or were in a constant state of war over territorial control.

Yea Forums was good newfag, I've been here all summer and seen it with my own eyes

>They economically have trouble suporting a average citizen so its a burden to suport others. They will rather just push them to our front door.
I understand what you'e saying, but we're talking big countries, big numbers, global nation shit. Mexico is complacent with their quality of life and their economy because they've been "trained" to accept it, just like any nation has a basic economy, things cost a certain amount to the average person. Americans consider Mexico to be impoverished, but Mexicans consider it normal. Everyone wants nicer things, and more of them.

But that doesn't absolve the Mexican government of taking action. They have trillions of dollars, and they choose how and why they spend it. Money would bleed out of it like a stuck pig. Graft and corruption, sweet-heart contracts. It would create ghettos and foevellas (whatever), but they have to figure it out because it's international law. They are allowing themselves to be a conduit of refugees from their SOUTHERN border. That makes them partly responsible. Sorry, but true. And thats why Trump's pissed, he's just too fucked up to articulate it.

>Nope, you're just fucking stupid as hell.
Ad hominem. Know how I know I'm right?

>cant get a job
That's why they are all working cash in hand. There is a school of thought that if you make legal immigration easier there wont be so much criminal immigration.

>proven false
Incorrect. It has been consistently proven correct. Re: my Chinese labour example. All work in the west has some connection to labour in China and generations ago it would have been entirely local.

>commit more crime
K E K. He believes in white terrorism being the biggest terrorist source. You realise those lies come from he fact that non citizens or foreign born citizens do not count towards domestic terrorist statistics? If you want non terrorist crime, then read Color Of Crime. It is free and well researched and sourced. Nuggets commit crime at far higher rate than whites.

>my family moved here before ethe US started
And yet you had to gain citizenship? I smell a mixed mutt.

Compared to Europe, they were a far more peaceful nation.

I like how you completely abandon one point and jump to your next racist quip without even considering if it's relevant.

How about you just use your fucking brain for once?

youtube.com/watch?v=4fsJGrx99R4&t=29s

>governed
Kek, they did no such thing. They tore each other to shreds day in and day out and they constantly fought over roland. There was no established and stable nation in the Americas run by the red man. As far as I am concerned those that fight each other and scalp each other over land should have no right to complain when a third party also claims that land.

>not fit to call yourself American
Good thing I'm a brit you faggot kek

i was somehow more liberal till the historically liberal liberty and freedom of speech, and the historically conservative fanatism and strict doctrine switched sides
i dont like the conservatives, but i dont like what the liberals became in the last few years
i dont frequent /pol/ or defend alt-right nonsense, but the middle conservatives follow a simple line of common sense that others do not so i guess im forced to be with them

recent immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes than native born Americans, it's been proven ad nauseum.

Wage stagnation and cheap labor is a problem of financial policy, not immigration policy. It could easily be addressed with current immigration policies, the reason it isn't is because conservatives support businesses rather than workers.

Yes, I had to gain citizenship for my wife. Getting married does not insure citizenship on its own. Reading comprehension, dummy.

This

He werent replying to the same user. He isn't jumping points, I am the user you called ignorant. He is disagreeing with you. Considering you think there wouldn't be no one else to disagree with you, it probably means you really do think you are in the safe majority

>compared to Europeans
I'll take a naval battle than most medieval peasants would never have heard of over scalping cannibalism and daily atone age living thanks user.

I literally fucking hate anti-semitic and I'm not even Jewish. Who gives a shit if Jews control the world? Good for them. It trumps anything you've done with your life

You are the dumbest fucking person in this thread, congrats.

Maybe do a little research into the origins of your nation.

>medieval peasants weren't routinely tortured to death by whatever lord recently took over their lives

Europeans were ignorant peons scraping in the mud and dying of disease while Native Americans were creating the first representative government since Greece.

On here, that makes you an optimist. Everywhere else, you're a nihilist.

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>recent immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes than native born Americans,
black Americans make America crime rates high.

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>proven
By whom? More single dimensional studies?

>problem of financial policy
So you admit wages stagnate under the right conditions? And you admit there is little legit work for immigrants? And you dont think migrants will take cash (no need to pay taxes on) and work for half what others do? No? If so, why not? Why so many small business busted having spics in their kitchens and on their construction sites?

>conservatives support businesses
Kek, it's both parties that take their green from businesses and make policy on their behalf.

>wife
So your wife is a spic? Not biased at all eh?

Yes, I embraced socialism.

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Racist cops targeting black people make American crime rates high. Moving the goalposts AGAIN, are we?

My wife is British, are you only reading like every other word or something?

>Greece
Holy sht my fucking sides!!!111 medieval peons had more national holidays than modern men and buffalo niggers are other people in times of famine which were constant considering they were fucking unable to grow anything with any competence.

You ever heard of the way they hunted buffalo and bison in America before Europeans brought them horses? Search Google for cliff stampede buffalo hunting. Literally no respect for their precious mother nature let alone making democracy happen.

unironically, this
/pol scum needs to be contained in their shitty board

>They tore each other to shreds day in and day out and they constantly fought over roland.
But the gunslinger was too much for them, and he once again set off across the desert in search of Walter.

Ah so you're just a cuck that cant understand what 13% and 50% mean.

> per capita

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Kek autocorrect. I meant over land of course

It means you're too racist to consider actual science, so you think correlation is important.

Get a fucking education, retard.

>per capita
Liberal kryptonite
/thread

>single dimensional studies

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If you really believe that, then you need to go back to the library (that big place with all the books). A few of the tribes were non-warring, but almost all succumbed to the warring tribes.

>medieval peons had a lot of holidays

yeah, they had to be constantly re-educated by the church so they wouldn't revolt. They were being placated into being peons and you're PROUD of it.

Really, GTFO of America.

I think the guy you're applying to is retarded but I just had to point out that's an actual phrase when it comes to scientific research. I'm serious look it up

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because of all the books you've read am I right? Give me a break

another libtard brainwashed by CNN

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sounds like the modern wageslave in the US tbh

Even warring tribes used representational government and had strict rules for engagement that were agreed between tribes.

Europeans typically raped and murdered each other if they had even a single difference in how they read the Bible.

no

The conservative mindset would turn us all into wage slaves in order to appease a few hundred business owners.

yes

>PolLOGo.png

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tpbp

/pol is the only reason /b became a shithole tho never being good in the first place. Sure, it was not good, but it wasn't THIS crap.

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I'm aware, it's just the topic at hand is relatively one-dimensional.

Either migrants commit and cause more crime or they don't.

Sure environmental and SES factors are relevant but any real study will control or account for such common variables is a crime study.

tee hee poop

Yes, actually, because not everyone is a basement-dwelling twit.

>b
what the fuck is b

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>when conservatives try to use data for evidence

It's a graph of CO2 emissions....

What the fuck did you think you were looking at???

This. Who cares about hating Jews or niggers when you're literally a publicly educated wage slave? It's infinitely ironic

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you say that but I know you don't even own a basement let alone property in general

>correlation
Assuming I am not read up on IQ differences hence understand causation.

Also, if the correlation tend towards my point of view then you have to prove why it is meaningless. You are right, I cant go ahead with a cause, but you cannot conclusively prove your point of view without one either, ergo we must tend towards the correlation until sufficient proof presents itself.

>not realising that crime stats showing whites commit more crimes than blacks without showing population sizes are posted in this very thread, and that is the definition of a single varied analysis and a unidimensional study
Fucking cope

>he has no response

>/thread.

been on this board off and on for 8-ish years. Was off of here for the past year. Just came back on this week. What a fucking shit show. Even during 2016/17 it wasn't compeltly shot to shit.

>medieval brainwashed peons
>forgets all those peasant revolts
>thinks the catholic church is a brainwashing machine
Are you a literal 14 year old? Also read my posts again. I'm a brit in Britain.

look at this guy try Harding because of his insecurities about his political opinions. Opinions of which aren't your own because it's all from memes

It was a post to illustrate how per capita can be misleading, with no context.

/thread

roughly same amount, 7 years, and the decline started in early 2015, but it was only autistic logposters, now the least that can happen to you is to find a YLYL thread opened by a Ray Pist meme. If you actually bother filtering up all the trannies and dicks, that is.

>"b-but /b was never good bruh I have to type this shit if I don't wanna look like a newfag lmao"

kys.

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There were meetings of tribal leaders from vaious clans of the larger tribes, like the Sioux, or the Cherokee, but the notion that this "Representational" government approximated any form of democratic government is pure crap.

Break crime down by race and SES and see what happens nigger.

The break the population down by race and SES.

It has changed my views in the sense that I used to have hope for humanity, and felt positive about people. But oh no, not anymore, the alt-right has made it clear that there are so many brain dead idiots in this world:)))

Doesn't say race retard. Bet most of those are Jewish. White supremacy is a mental disorder.

I am the guy he is posting about. Wanna share why you think I'm wrong? I would genuinely like to know as you seem more level headed here.

The issue is one dimensional but the studies have to take into account more than one data point and they often dont such as crime relative to population size. Either that, or those with a dog in the fight misrepresent these studies.

>any real study

The only studies that CAN be done on this are correlational, You cannot create experimental proof of this claim, because it is IMPOSSIBLE to control all the variables and create laboratory conditions.

You simply cannot account for all variables because you do not have unlimited access to the personal information of every single subject, and you will need thousand at least to make a correlation study that isn't worthless.

It is not one-dimensional or a simple question that needs answering. There is no way to prove anything or predict anything for a given subject, so all you're really studying is a historical trend.

Ok, so have many other races. Ghengis Khan was a conqueror. Funny how white losers bring this up when they themselves haven't contributed anything to society.

>conservative
Thread about alt right and he thinks they are all conservatives. Wew lad.

Also the other guy that posted to you is right, it's an illustration of the inconvenient dimensions you always conveniently miss out. It could be consumption of kibble by dog breed for all I care.

Congratulations. You haven't failed to be wrong yet.

I learned that simply being pro-gun rights makes me alt right. Sounds like the left accuses so many people of being alt-right that they're forcing the numbers to swell. Most alt-righters have no idea that's what they are.

You want border security? Alt right. You want smaller government? Alt right. You want fewer radical muslims being imported to cause social unrest? Alt right.

Hey losers ;) what watch are you wearing right now? A swatch? what a fag, m8, this is the shit ;)

It's fun because I'm rich and you're not ;) lmao

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>implying liberalism isn't right-wing
If anything, the alt-right meme has only made me more commie and less liberal.

Not really. Not all of us are insecure about being white.

The honker is right!

The tribes were represented by their chiefs. I never said the chiefs were democratically representative of their individual tribes, but they were incredibly invested in the welfare of their tribe members, obviously.

Check this guy outimplying I could not possibly have formed these opinions by actual consideration and reading the evidence and must have gotten them from memes.

the alt right is a fantasy

people just wanting the fucking liberals to shut the fuck up, stop telling us about the bullshit planet is going burn because we drive cars shit, and stop taking the money we work so hard for every day

i'm sick of working 40% of the year for the damn federal and state government

fuck 'em all

Thats why I'm quick to read the method section of a study first. If the data isn't clearly presented. I take it was a gain of salt.

The FBI, BLS, GAO reppots are fair.

you soon will be

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I'm not level-headed when it comes to people like you. You're just a run-of-the-mill racist who thinks youre better than other people just because you were born

>Orange man bad
>U sheep
Kys loser

Are you one of these fags that thinks income and education effect black crime at all significantly?

They're not scared of your stupid, false memes. Ever heard of copyright you autistic faggot?

>It is not one-dimensional or a simple question that needs answering. There is no way to prove anything or predict anything for a given subject, so all you're really studying is a historical trend.

Keep thinking that.

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Kek.

This 1000x

It's only misleading if you don't know what per capita means.

Real misleading graphs have skewed axes, mislabeled terms and omitted data. It's not misleading just because you can't understand it.

your head is too far up your own ass to look at anything but research that supports your own conclusions. Your perception is literally fucked sideways by an echo chamber full of memes and propaganda.

>Hurr durr orange man bad
>Only my side is right
>Hurr durr manchild

Yes, but this doesn't mean that there was any democratic process in place, any more than there was among the tribes of Scotland.

If it wasn't, then you could identify behavior that is universal to all immigrants across time and space.

Are you really claiming that? Cuz it seems like a stupid fucking claim.

Thats what the data sugguest nigger.

But it's also failmy (community) support and up brining.

>Not really. Not all of us are insecure about being white.

Correct. There are people are insecure about it. They're called liberals.

I didn't say there was a democratic process, I said there was a representational one.

Our government is not based on direct Democracy. In fact, the popular vote doesn't even determine our President. We are a representational government and our tribes are political and financial entities.

Are you one of those fags who act like it plays no role at all?

As opposed to the left who get fed what to think from social media and PBS News hour?

OP: I'm not for either side. Slams just one side.

Just stop.

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That cringe-worthy perception is why people don't understand what it really means to be leftist. That's an image spoon-fed to you by the alt right

>social media

no, that conservatives. They're several times more likely to form opinions based on social media feeds, and that's why Putin targeted them during Trump's election. They tried against Democrats too, but every single top comment is always debunking their propaganda.

Sorry the PBS news hour isn't to the standard of Hannity.

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Great then sources from the FBI that show the race differences of crime should be evident to you?

So the reason you think a humble user like me is wrong or retarded is cos you refuse to be level headed as you do not like the opinion? You chose to ignore the facts rather than refute them and that makes ME the retard? Stunning logic user.

Any matter of sanity is considered insane

>actually thinks a black man making $1,000,000 per year and graduated from Harvard is just as likely to commit crime as someone who is starving and illiterate

I bet you're so fucking stupid because you're poor too.

Assuming i memed my way into what I believe. Okay though user, I will take the bait, what evidence do you have that shows that I am wrong for thinking race and crime rates are deeply intertwined? Share something with me that will dissuade me. I promise to read it with all open mindedness.

Wrong and fake news. When adjusted for income inequality poor whites commit less crime than blacks from the same income bracket.

Oh no, 12 people who get paid to say they hate white people said they hate white people. What ever shall I do? 12 people is obviously a majority of the population and definitely not a fringe minority. I guess my only option is to go on Yea Forums and make a thread about how Jews are behind this and how niggers are bad. You've redpilled me buddy. Aryan pride or some shit.

Again, SES, age, and eniverment matter.

Sauce?

Not at all, there is clearly a mix of environmental factors and natural ones. But the natural are shown time and again to be the bigger of the two.

I've always hated the government, and I always will.

Are you suggesting the left is inherently less likely to be biased or narrow in theor source material?

actually the facts scream you're wrong actually the facts scream you're wrong but you'll never see that because you go cherry picking

are you kidding me? it's dead of these conservatives live breathe and shit that every day of their lives

You are utterly retarted. This is not support by any current understanding of Environment/Gene regulation regarding violence.

Environment is the greatest predictor of violent behaviour.

Did I say that? DOD I say that literally ever nigger is a criminal and every white man a saint? Or did I say there is a strong correlation between crime and race? Of you are the correlation fag, you should be ashamed now having to rely on a hypothetical correlation.

>trust issue.
>molested by someone close.

Nope, environmental factors have way more influence on social behavior. Just consider how extreme your own behavior differs between online and personal conversations.

Never said they didn't but they are a minority of the factors compared to race.

>correlation is not causation

So, your argument is that, because they're both "representational" governments, there's no real difference between a group of tribal leaders and a republican government elected by the the popular vote of citizens at large.

Uh, sure.

Because if you're going to justify racism with Statistics then you can also fully justify sexism against men with Statistics as well. Only 50% of the population but they represent the overwhelming majority of violent crime across all cultures and all history.

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No they are not. Why dont you understand this?

Roughly 70% plus of rapes.

But poor whites still commit crime more often than wealthy white people, so the user you're responding to is right. Stormfags always got to move the goalpost.

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Nope. I was center right before, and I'm center right now. I think antifa and the altright are two sides of the same facist coin. Also, intersectionality is the worst thing to happen to academia.

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In light of political dogma and aggression, I've chosen to become a humanitarian. Spread love and good vibes in these times of division. May we praise the sun, love under the moon, and never become one with the abyss.

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There's a natural instinct in all of us to kill due to evolution. Why don't you react to it?

One of the few studies that account for income and race is zaw and rarity 2016.

Cant post link as 4chins thinks it is spam.

And pray that you don't go hollow!

Agree with everything you say. Go to pol and mention horseshoe theory and they'll go ballistic and start acting like chimps.

You don't actually know this. You only know that poor whites are charged with or convicted of crimes more often than wealthy whites.

You seem like a guy who smokes a lot of weed.

Why are they dressed like the Angry Videogame Nerd?

Ok. Now do the same to black people.

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I'm going to keep hating niggars but the truth is I can argue against this at the moment.

Still not refuted me.

Wut that post is unreadable

Most blacks are raised by blacks and whites by whites. If you want to claim being black in an all black school and neighbourhood leads to higher propensity to crime, we can agree on that.

Actually, no! I don't take any form of drug and steer clear of alcohol! I just get a high from making people smile!

Is that an indication of propensity towards crime? Whether I am with my sweet old granny and dont curse but with you I call you a cunt? Big think user.

I know and yet you (or the user) correlated an imaginary black man with a result.

there's no need to refute you because all you've been doing is posting weak antidotes and a few studies that prove nothing

These people would not be at all relevant if people didn't feel the need to create another "struggle" for the modern era. People are so upset that they'll never do anything as historic as things like the civil rights movement, so they felt the need to legitimize neo nazis. We used to laugh at these people, now they have more of a platform than ever before because people decided to pick literal fights with them. This is what happens when we run out of actual problems.

Perhaps since you haven't refuted it with evidence, just keep saying it over and over.

Yes, one hundred percent. Who said I didn't. men are more likely to commit violent crime. black men or than white though ;)

They're not elected by the popular vote of citizens at large.

They control the voting districts and have gerrymandered them so that they control government even when they don't win the popular vote of citizens at large. The same thing exists at a national level with the Electoral College.

That's a pretty significant departure from Democracy.

Well being a student will acuess to a research database. The search result "ses and crime" returned 142,646 results. 65,894 of which are peer reviewed.

Try again nigger

I acknowledge this. Never denied it. But poor blacks commit more crime than poor whites and rich blacks. How is your point and mine incompatible? Libfags always move the goalposts.