RIP

So the 49% vote away the liberty of the 51%?

Very true

Couldn't agree more. That's why Obama was employed for 8 years.

The electoral college was put in place to make sure the uneducated can’t just vote in whoever they want. If they were to say vote in the king of England the electors would just vote in whomever they wish. It’s not to protect you it’s because they don’t trust yoy

the really shameful thing is how Trump, a former democrat, managed to primary every republican candidate and hijack their party

Trump was elected because the other candidate (an unlikable elitist cunt) was literary a mix between Satan an Al Capone , who had to cheat an old communist to become the nominee in the 1st place

No. If the US was a democracy, the coasts would dictate what the rest of the country does. Its difficult to make huge swings in policy at the whims of the 51%. This was done on purpose.

Thank God the electors saved us from Hillary then. Pat on the back to them.

>a former democrat,

Democrat leaning "independent"

This
Most americans are idiots. Example- how college students react to election results despite being very well educated.
Anyone below that level must be worse.

Something tells me the CIA is behind Hillary being put into the running for POTUS. I bet ISIS agents put her into power to make America support Israel/Wars in the Middle-East more and let the Jihadis drum up more support for their cause. I wonder if she's secretly a Muslim like Obama and Trump?

Turnout based around rules of play. No telling what the popular vote would've been with different rules. Absolutely no need for many to turn out.
Keep your average Californian IQ of 95.5 where it belongs.

So the middle of the country dictates what the coast does?

The current system makes only the votes in a limited number of states count(Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Florida). If you don’t live in those states it doesn’t matter who you vote for. New York is about 48% conservative but all of the 52% that is liberal dictates that all of the states electoral votes go to the democrat.

I like how people call everything "a sea of red". Like, bro. Those states are only Red because no one lives there. All of them are hicks and will vote trump no matter what.

Everyone has to realize that the costal states, Chicago, New York City, and sometimes Flroida rules our country.

No-one rally's in Idaho because they want votes. They just want to improve their image

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I agree. Which is why we need direct election of the president so everyone’s vote counts

Or at least a system where it isn’t winner take all in the majority of states

I refuse to believe NY and CA should decide who our president is forever.

The electoral college was put in place so that a handful of city's (less then 1% of the us by mass) would otherwise control everything

sound fair 5 cities get the vote the rest of the country might as well fuck off without the collage

They shouldn’t. The people of the country should

it should be though

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plenty live there lol fools

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No, the majority of representative states (representative republic) choose what the rest of the country does. At least with choosing a president. Dems had the last 8 years, reps had the 8 before that, dems before that, reps before that.... guess what's. Corporations still dictate policy. President means nothing. Dems beat the war drum just as hard as the reps do, so at the end of the day, what are you really arguing for?

That’s flatly not true. The electoral college was meant to protect the country from the uneducated masses not from the cities.

The uneducated voted for Trump you gibbering fool

I am arguing for the abolishment of the electoral college and direct election of the president. I am arguing for abolishment of congressional districts and apportionment of representatives by party at the rate of 1 for every 50k votes.

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Very true. But they elected who the educated wanted them to. The elite pick the president. Not the people

There's one way to correct it if you don't like it as specified in our constitution, call a constitiution conversion, there are two ways to do that. The states can do it or the congress can do it.
Instead of changing things you'd rather whine like a bitch because your anoinited one shillary who should be in prison lost.

>not from the cities.

no so that the whole country has a say not just the a few population centers

Actually it was put into place because this is a federation of states and it gives all states some say in things.

Some of you people really need to read The Federalist Papers and the founding documents of the United States of America.

1-I don’t support Hillary. The 2016 election was a travesty where no one who was qualified was nominated by either party.

2-i have for years been writing to my senators and congressmen asking for them to propose an amendment

No so that the elites in the city can control the uneducated rural community

The Electoral College was created for two reasons. The first purpose was to create a buffer between the population and the selection of a President. The second as part of the structure of the government that gave extra power to the smaller states.

historycentral.com/elections/Electoralcollgewhy.html

literary 5 blue states have 51% of the population
(and most of the illegals)

The argument you are making was the one made by antifederalists who wanted more power to the states(especially the small ones like Delaware and RI). The federalists wanted more central power since they new large states like New York Virginia and Pennsylvania would be able to dominate it.

Your ignorance is showing. People are people all over the world. Most of the country and the rest of the world for that matter, are not interested in the fake reality that living in an overpopulated city brings you.

Yup, less valuable people who create the most wealth and economic activity in the US and prop up the welfare systems in the red states

It's to keep individual Cities from over taking the State's power. There's more to it than just selecting a President.

>If it were just up to a handful of Cities. Those Cities would get ALL the attention of those seeking public office.

The problem with this is that people think the US government is an instrument to be used to push a social agenda. The government has nothing to do with these social issues. Where in the constitution does it say "federal government dictates what bathrooms all buildings must have?"
It doesn't. It says "all powers not EXPLICITLY outlined for the feds, go to the states" you want your state to mandate gender neutral bathrooms in every building, go for it. The majority of the country isn't with the ultra progressive agenda.
Apportionment of representatives by population is essentially what we do now.

A constitutional convention right now would be a disaster. The fuckers in charge would use that opportunity to cement a libertarian plutocratic hell scape. A simple constitutional amendment would do.

Welfare in California is as big as 5 red states.
More red states are financially solvent than blue states.

Actually... he was elected for his Qualifications. That's why I voted for him.

They were all constitutionally qualified, who are you to argue with the constitution of the USA? You come up with general statements and yet have no specifics.
It makes you come across as goofy.

Why are Trumperinos so obsessed with someone thats not even talked about in her own party anymore? Stop acting like you didnt win the election, act like you did. I.E., not like a 4yo kid.

She was just on Television speaking last week. She's still making her self relevant you dumb ass.

It's also to slow things down, to prevent simple reactive public from changing everything overnight. That's why we not only have three branchs of government but also two within the first branch the congress which is listed first in the constitution. There's the house and the senate.

That's why the congress was divided into two houses.

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I know that, it's a very complicated issue.

Like what making shitty casinos and almost becoming personally bankrupt to avoid the IRS from his laundered money?

Of course she is. Shes a fucking politician it's what they do.

Trump did win the election by election according to the constitution of the united states of america. Read it sometime, you might become informed.

They were both qualified. People really don't understand what the position of President is anymore due to the Public Education System, and the News Media.

>The President isn't a King. He is a symbol for our Nation. He is our Mouth on the world stage. And mostly he's in charge of the Military. None of them have defacto Power over Policy. And the fact we have two "Rival" Parties in charge is a Major Problem.

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You really should pick up a book and stop using Television News as your only source of input.

No she's not. She's not a politician anymore. There is absolutely %100 percent NO Way she will ever hold public office ever again.

You are confusing the word "qualified" with the word "eligible "

Just because someone is constitutionally eligible to be president doesn't mean they have the qualifications a competent president requires.

Nice one. To bad I knew all that shit before he was president. Doesnt take a genius to figure out what he did.

I wouldn't capitalize either of those two, they're not worthy of it.

*Too

That's not really for you to say just because your anointed one lost.

That was kinda my point. You should probably read his book, The Art of the Comeback.

That book really underlines the News Media's Partisan Desperation. Pertaining to their current outrage coverage. Of which you are ignorantly parroting.

This bitch is smoking hot

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Welcome to NewSpeak where the individual will define your words for you.

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I've read the book and how his daddy bailed him out by basically consigning for him.

Where did all his money magically go tho?

++good

How did the clintons go from being dirt poor then once they got government offices become worth over 100million?

LMAO...

>"I've read his book!"

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I agree but I still think she would have lost.

Nope, that's not what the federation of states was founded on. Only little children think that there should be direct election without regard for states.

Everyone? The 19th was one of this Nation's biggest Mistakes.

If you want Direct Democracy to even remotely function than Voting must become a Privilege.

One thing that I'd change if there was to ever be a consitutional convention is the bullshit of having citizenship by simple virtue of being here. That would end anchor baby crap for once and all.

I get the point of it. It makes sense and everything and I even get that states have their own voting laws so it would be impossible to have a fair popular vote election. 1 vote 1 person just makes sense regardless or how aids it would be to make work.

Actually, you're not wrong.
Two states award electoral votes is parts while others give the whole batch to one candidate.
So people in California and New York are at the mercy of the popular vote.

If that was how it was to going to be originally the federation would have never been formed and there have never been a USA. The laws can't just be changed without reason and without a constitutional convention, and that would never pass. Essentially that would eliminiate states.

... I realize that lot of chump ass treaherous cunts like that cortez bitch want states and our nation to be eliminated but that's not going to happen without a fight. Also we have a lot of nukes, does the rest of the world want them controlled by regional warlords and shit like that? Our banking systems would go to shit and we'd get bombed if we ever showed unstability.
Do you really want your old mom walking through bombed out road warrior territory?

Nice deflection. This is about trump not the Clinton's idiot. Stay on subject you spaz.

It's bizzare that most people simply have no sense of reality, they're too stuffed in their cell phones and shaking keys.

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Who said this was about Trump... You?

>IT WAS HER TURN