Georgia admits abortion is murder. Take that, liberal delusionists

Fucking serves them right for all the shit they force on the rest of the country.

And fucking a horse is still legal. Take that bigot humanists.

True but the same thing applies to liberals. The far-left and the far-right are both retarded.

Thank you for not saying cuck or libtard, i can pay attention to you now. I automatically tune out people who use those 2 phrases lol

Agreed. Both extremes are mentally ill

Except the far left are few and the far right have 190 reps and 45 senators

>Georgia
>redneck bible thumpers
>Georgia waste of space and the south doesn't live in the present.

Not every single Republican is on the far-right, just like every single Democrat isn't on the far-left, and the fact that you believe otherwise makes you a far-left extremist.

And Ohio's law makes it illegal to cross state lines for an abortion. Say goodbye to Roe v Wade.

OP admits he’s a faggot.

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When did Yea Forums become so liberal?

Cause the fuckin repubs keep trying to take freedom away. It's not about sides, it's about freedom to live without the government forcing you to live how they think you should. People just don't fuckin get it.

People are gonna do it anyway.

Why wouldn't it be? Yea Forums has always been about being able to go anything.

Democrats try to take away your freedom too. Maybe even more. If both sides are bad you should be supporting neither.

Dems always vote for larger government, just like reps. How many laws are passed expanding your liberty? The answer is few to none. Doesnt matter which party is in power. Do I have more freedom in California or Texas? Texas without a doubt.

>Georgia admits abortion is murder.

Or, as anyone who isnt delusional would put it:

"Backwards religious hicks push laws to deny women freedom of choice and bodily autonomy."

If you think america is the "land of the free", why are you so eager to restrict those freedoms?

>people are gonna do it anyway
Just like owning guns

And this is an instance where Republicans are taking away freedoms.

Abortion was never about sexism, that is a lie invented by the left. Pro lifers are pro life because they believe abortion is equivalent to murder.

I'm not opposed to people owning guns, I'm really a libertarianish liberal

Does that justify voting Democrat, and getting your freedom taken by them? No, swinging the pendulum the other way doesn't fix anything. A third party is better than either of those faggots.

Oh, ok, that's a more reasonable stance. I also would identify myself as a libertarian.

But in a general election I choose the least bad realistic candidate, which is generally a Democrat.

In practice it restricts women

Republicans were never about small governemnt, it's just something they tell their retarded voter base. Of course, Democrats are not about small government either. If you really want small government you should be voting Libertarian.

abortion = parent of a dead child

still a mother. still a father. still...born

That baby is half someone elses. In practice I'm happy single, irresponsible women kill their half of the child. If they are irresponsible enough to need an abortion, they are not eligible to procreate and would raise more trash children. Thank God.

It's in her though. If I put my bodily fluids on you, you're free to clean them off of you.

I used to think that way, except I thought Republicans were the lesser evil, but now I think "lesser evilism" leads to a slippery slope. The government are basically compromising with the voters to see how much rights they can take away, and eventually, inch by inch, they will have taken all of them away. I actually think both parties actively play off of this and this is what they want.

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They're also disturbingly similar.

The political spectrum really is an awful lot like a ring, isn't it? The farther out your go to the wings, the more similar they are. It's not easy to spot the differences between fascism and communism since they borrow so much from one another.

That's because there aren't really 2 parties with 2 agendas. There are corporations that either directly or indirectly control legislation. The left/right paradigm is a sham.

This. For all the amount of hate thrown at each other, the alt-right and SJWs are not all that different, just like Nazis and communists weren't.
They want to divide the population, if both sides actually cared about there freedom there wpuld be no brainwashed Democrat or Republican voter bases, they would be unified against the State.

They didn't admit it, they declared it; big difference. Probably all decided from a fictional book, the bible.

Any woman wanting to risk the life of her unborn toddler should be required to put hers at risk as well through restricting abortion methods to concrete stairwells, MMA boxers, rusty clotheshangars or handguns.

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That’s pretty much it.
90% of righties are dipshits.
Only a handful of lesbians who troll right-wingers spout the dipshit stuff that fox pretends is main-stream liberal views.

For example, not a single democrat gives a fuck about AOC.
Not a single democrat has advocated taking away your guns.
No democrat wants open borders.

>they would be unified against the State.

We don't need to unify against the state, but we need to torch the constitution and take control of our court system back. We need a restored constitution that hasn't been poisoned by a century of corruption and lobbying. The state needs to work for us, it doesn't matter if the government is big or small, it's the power dynamic that has become completely fucked up.

Our president is king for eight years, the checks and balances on his power are almost impossible to enact with a two party system fueled by trillions of corporate dollars. We need hard spending caps and a complete ban on PACs. I remember Obama claiming his donations for his campaign were all tiny, they were! Unless you count the humongous PACs that ran endless advertising for his campaign. Same thing with Trump and Clinton, hundreds of billions of dollars coming from these secretive PACs that have almost no disclosure rules to help THE PEOPLE follow the money.

From the view of a right-winger, very few Republicans are extremists, and every Democrat is. You're biased, just in the opposite way. I'm not a Republican by the way, I'm a libertarian who is against both parties.

The democrats consistently vote to expand individual freedoms.
The republicans vote consistently against personal freedoms.

The only freedoms they support are the freedoms to interfere with other peoples’ Freedoms.

You can pretend that it’s “both sides”, but it’s not.

You don’t have to do any conspiracy research to find this information.

Just look at public voting records.

No dem has advocated taking away guns. Sorry you're terribly misinformed.

A horse won't ever beat you or rape you or give you an std or poke holes in the condom.
Sex with them should be encouraged.

>I'm a libertarian who is against both parties.
call us when you get a driver's license, graduate high school, and/or move out of mommy's basement.

California is more free than Texas.

Unless you talk about freedom to kill people. Texas makes it a lot easier to kill people and get away with it.

Freedom to take away someone else’s right to life.

By the corporations For the corporations.
New Walmart World Order.

Which one said to take away guns?

Banning abortion is tantamount to forced organ donation. Hope you aren't found at fault for a car accident. You might end up losing a kidney.

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Not even remotely true. Taxes are way, way higher. Gun laws are moronic at best.

It is illegal to defend yourself in Texas.
Self-defense is not justified.

Democrats support of hate speech laws, gun control, socialism and there is bipartisan support for things like war and the surveillance state. Neither party wants freedom.

>ad hominem "argument"
This shows that you cannot refute libertarianism.

The Soviet Union admitted that capitalism needs to be abolished and that antiimperialism is the way to go. Take that, bourgeois scum.

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Libertarians are locked into this “small government is the best government” idea to the point where they think doing anything at all is overreach.

It’s the same mentality as people who have a giant growth but don’t go to the doctor and just pretend it will go away on its own.

It is not illegal to defend yourself in Texas.

You can literally kill someone for entering your house.

My neighbor put a shell in a pipe and fired it with a hammer while taking a break plumbing his house last year, then installed that same pipe in his basement.
His house is now an illegal firearm!

No, because the giant growth is the fault of too much government, not the lack of it.

>From the view of a fascist, very few fascists are extremists, and everyone else is. You're biased, just in the opposite way. I'm not Fascist by the way, I'm an illiterate prole who is against both parties.

You're a fucking moron, is what you are.

The US republican party policies are graphed on the political spectrum as Far Right, and match up with what is termed "extreme right-wing" in all other countries. The Democrats' policies, when on the same graph, are centrist right-wing.

The United States' political inclination has, over the last 50 years, veers steadily towards increasingly right-wing, authoritarian policies, to the point that the so-called "left" in the US is more conservative right-wing than the right in most other developed nations.

the US honestly wouldn't know what to do if a genuine left-winger ever rose to public awareness or popularity.

Democrats don't support hate speech laws.

So Republicans are graphed the same way as fascists? Republicans suck but they're not as bad as fascists.
I'm not seeing how the greentext s supposed to be an argument AGAINST me, I never said fascists don't think that way either.

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georgia. LOL

You don’t get to threaten people and then hide behind the first amendment.

Not being for gun control is fucking retarded. We all know that having guns available to every retard is a bad idea.

No democrat has endorsed socialism. Ever single one wants a capitalist system still, but some want the social programs that make social democracies the happiest places on the earth.

You’re listening to people who are lying about liberals.

Probably millionaires on Fox News who work for billionaires.

So you think that if you took away all the government that everything would take care of itself?

You do need to grow the fuck up.

you both are retards arguing in vague images because you're ashamed of actually being concrete with the nonsense you try to sell

Libertarianism is stupid because it assumes that if the gubmint wasn't making rules, no one would be. We'd all live in a happy utopia where people are free to do what they want! In reality, corporations would do whatever the fuck they want, including polluting the environment on a massive scale, forcing workers to work in dangerous conditions, paying people in coupons to the company grocery store, etc. You only have to look at turn of the century coal mining towns to know that libertarianism is as much a fantasy as anarchism or (real) communism. Most libertarians just read some Ayn Rand papers and if they graduated from undergrad they certainly never matured from there.

Social libertarianism is fine though. Making things illegal which have no victims (or the only victim is ones self) is a massive waste of time and money on law enforcement, the judicial system, and the penal system. Drugs, prostitution, guns, etc. should be legal. It's easier to control the consequences of legal everything if you nudge people into good behaviors instead of outright banning things. That's why needle exchanges and shit work.

>Do I have more freedom in California or Texas? Texas without a doubt.

errrr....which state government is more likely to murder you?
not that i disagree with the D penalty or anything but facts are facts, jack

Yeah as a matter of fact you can threaten people... words are never enough on their own to be imprisoned for.
Fuck you. I'm gonna kill you.
See? No action or intent. No jail. Thank goodness for the first amendment

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>So Republicans are graphed the same way as fascists? Republicans suck but they're not as bad as fascists.

Their policies have been almost identical for the last decade or so. Its how its presented that's the real difference in the US.

the only significant difference is that fascism tends to revolve around a cult of personality, an orator who generates blind devotion to the party/state. Often a bombastic figure who makes boastful self-aggrandising claims (ie, Mussolini)...

I don't think that. I do believe the government could be less involved and things would and could be better. Elected officials are supposed to do the will of the people. And they do not, left or right. All professional politicians are shit. There shouldn't be professional politicians. Money should not make laws.

Maybe because abortion is the cessation of life without an excuse.
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I never said death threats are justified, even I don't think you should be alowed to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. I'm talking about college liberals that want to ban racist, sexist, homophobic slurs, etc. I think you should be allowed to say whatever you want about white or black people, men or women, straight or gay people, etc.
Gun control doesn't work, the cities with the highest amounts of gun control are ones such as DC, NYC, LA or Chicago. I saw a movie once where only the police and military had guns by the way, it was called Schindler's List.
AOC is a socialist. Social programs are government overreach.
I have a negative opinion of Republicans too, don't mistake me for some Fox News redneck.

Lol, no. No you can't threaten to kill someone and not get charged.

you are more likely to die in a california prison for petty shit than be put to death by the state in texas

>took away all the government
No, I'm not an anarchist. I support a night-watchman state.
I think you are mistaken abut some of my stances. I support environmental regulations because pollution violates non-aggression. I fall more in line with the social libertariansism you described.

A bunch of the regular Trumptards are on restriction and can't have internet for a week.

The policies of fascists and Republicans are not the same. You can walk up to a Republican politician and tell him to go fuck himself, but if you did that to Mussolini or Hitler you'd be executed.

Depends on the state and circumstances. Texas allows lethal force to protect property. You tell someone that you'll kill then if they try to rob you there, you're fine.

>you are more likely to die in a california prison for petty shit
thats what ya get for being a petty mother fuckaaa

That's interesting. Also not true at all, fortunately. Imagine a world where someone can be put in jail for simply speaking. What a terrible place that would be. I'm glad I'm not offended by mere words like you.

This "both sides are the same" shit is getting old. I used to believe that, but if you look at voting records it's clearly not the case. Who is holding up campaign finance reforms? Republicans. Who is gutting regulatory agencies that exist to protect people from predatory loan practices and predatory drug pricing? Republicans. Who is intentionally hamstringing a law designed to get everyone access to healthcare? Republicans. Who cut taxes for corporations and rich people while raising import taxes that will be passed on to consumers? Republicans. Which party refuses to bring legislation to the Senate floor? Republicans. FFS, Mitch McConnell filibustered HIS OWN BILL.

The only issues that Republicans are on the right side of (from the perspective of their voters) is the handful of wedge issues that they bleat about on FOX 24/7. Everything else they clearly vote to fuck their constituents. My state refuses to expand Medicaid even though it would help people and save money. Why? Black president bad!

The main place they share similarity--being beholden to corporate interests and big donors--needs to be fixed. Starting with passing laws to get money out of politics... Laws that R's have always voted against.

Crime Statistics
State Prisoners - Number of deaths (per capita) by state

DEFINITION: Total number of all deaths for prisoners in state correctional facilities. NOTE: this statistic does not include District of Columbia. There were 9 prisoner deaths in 2001 for Washingotn DC. None of the deaths were suicide or homicide. Per capita figures expressed per 10,000 population.

Rank States Amount
# 1 Alabama: 0.377 per 10,000 people
# 2 Delaware: 0.368 per 10,000 people
# 3 Texas: 0.352 per 10,000 people
# 4 Louisiana: 0.332 per 10,000 people
# 5 Alaska: 0.331 per 10,000 people
# 6 Oklahoma: 0.324 per 10,000 people
# 7 South Carolina: 0.273 per 10,000 people
# 8 Arkansas: 0.263 per 10,000 people
# 9 Maryland: 0.252 per 10,000 people
# 10 Mississippi: 0.236 per 10,000 people
# 11 Arizona: 0.234 per 10,000 people
# 12 Michigan: 0.224 per 10,000 people
# 13 Georgia: 0.219 per 10,000 people
# 14 Nevada: 0.215 per 10,000 people
# 15 Missouri: 0.21 per 10,000 people
# 16 Florida: 0.205 per 10,000 people
# 17 Colorado: 0.201 per 10,000 people
= 18 Pennsylvania: 0.2 per 10,000 people
= 18 Ohio: 0.2 per 10,000 people
# 20 South Dakota: 0.193 per 10,000 people
# 21 Tennessee: 0.188 per 10,000 people
# 22 New York: 0.187 per 10,000 people
= 23 Kentucky: 0.185 per 10,000 people
= 23 Virginia: 0.185 per 10,000 people
# 25 Idaho: 0.182 per 10,000 people
# 26 Wisconsin: 0.179 per 10,000 people
# 27 California: 0.173 per 10,000 people

you are more that twice as likely to die in a Texas prison than you are in California, according to the US government's own statistics.

Who cares if it's murder? Too many people anyway. I say let's use these fetuses for scientific research.

You're missing more than a few states there buddy

Thats probably because democrats vote to raise their own residents taxes outrageously. You could make a chart of “states that tax residents for more than their fair share” and get similar results.

>I fall more in line with the social libertariansism you described.

Congratulations: you just discovered you're a liberal. Go vote for one of the far left candidates in the primary. We can't have Creepy Joe running against Donald.

While I'm at it: there is no such thing as a free market, and thinking that corps would behave sans government interference regulation and trust-busting is infantile. If we're going to have a "free market," I should also be able to walk into the board of director's meeting and throw a grenade, since without regulation the only thing that prevents them from fucking me is violence.

yes. but maybe Texas and California were the two that mattered in that conversation. So I cut the list at #27.

(also, 2000-character limit.)

but just for you...

# 28 Connecticut: 0.171 per 10,000 people
= 29 Hawaii: 0.157 per 10,000 people
= 29 Kansas: 0.157 per 10,000 people
= 29 Wyoming: 0.157 per 10,000 people
= 29 Oregon: 0.157 per 10,000 people
# 33 Indiana: 0.155 per 10,000 people
# 34 New Jersey: 0.148 per 10,000 people
# 35 North Carolina: 0.147 per 10,000 people
# 36 West Virginia: 0.138 per 10,000 people
# 37 New Mexico: 0.135 per 10,000 people
# 38 Illinois: 0.124 per 10,000 people
# 39 Montana: 0.118 per 10,000 people
# 40 Rhode Island: 0.102 per 10,000 people
# 41 Maine: 0.098 per 10,000 people
# 42 Vermont: 0.096 per 10,000 people
# 43 Washington: 0.095 per 10,000 people
# 44 Nebraska: 0.085 per 10,000 people
# 45 New Hampshire: 0.084 per 10,000 people
# 46 Massachusetts: 0.077 per 10,000 people
# 47 Iowa: 0.067 per 10,000 people
# 48 North Dakota: 0.063 per 10,000 people
# 49 Utah: 0.057 per 10,000 people
# 50 Minnesota: 0.055 per 10,000 people

Dems and reps trade places every 8 years. They all spend more money than we can afford. No one is worried about a balanced budget or fixing the deficits. They're all too concerned with moronic social issues that should be dealt with at state level. As soon as someone says, time to reel in entitlements and military spending, I'll listen. Till then, they're all the same.

>This "both sides are the same" shit is getting old
I understand your view. What I mean by that is no matter what, no politician is on our side. That just the facts of it. They are all bought and sold.

Republicans are bad, yes, we have established that. Don't pretend Democrats are flawless either though.
I guess I'm a classical liberal, not a modern liberal though. I can't support the party of gun control. I support capitalism, but not corporatism, which is what we've had for about the last 100 years. Killing people with grenades isn't freedom, because you're taking away someone elses right to life. And I'm not an ancap who thinks McDonald's nuking you is freedom either.
>no politician is on our side
Based

Even the worst rate there is half as bad as outside of prison. OP was entirely wrong.

Who cares about Georgia

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> OP was entirely wrong.

its quite remarkable how often that is the case, when people make absolute statements about things like that.

though please do note, those are per capita per 10,000, and homicide rates in the US per state are listed per capita per 100,000.

so for parity with state figures, you have to multiply by 10x - ie, Alabama 0.377 per 10,000 = 3.77 per 100,000.

That is significantly better than Louisiana state's 2017 per capita homicide rate of 12.4 per 100,000....

>They are all bought and sold.

Most of the democrats are refusing money from big donors. The side of the party that plays with billionaires is dying, but the democratic establishment and a large chunk of the media is trying to shove them down our throats. That's why Hillary won the primary but then lost to the most unqualified presidential candidate in history. It's probably going to happen again this year with Biden.

>reel in entitlements
Some of those entitlements would save us money. We're the only country in the world that spends tons of taxpayer money on healthcare and then also forces people to pay thousands of their own dollars. A study funded by the Koch Bros found that universal healthcare would save us at least 3 Trillion in 10 years. If we're the Greatest Country In The World we should be able to come up with solutions which provide people with the services they need and reduce the cost to taxpayers.

Here's another one: why aren't we funding the shit out of education when every study suggests that every dollar we invest in education comes back twofold because of higher paying jobs? Not to mention the social benefits of having a population that isn't duped by AntiVax, moon landing conspiracies, or Donald Trump.

>military spending
Yeah it really seems like we could put those $700 billion per year into infrastructure or back into my pocket. We were warned about the military industrial complex. It's a scam to move money from taxpayer's paychecks to the pockets of investors in companies like Lockheed and Ratheon, but if you say that you're in favor of decreased military spending, the R's cry that you hate The Troops.

>dollar of FEDERAL spending per dollar of FEDERAL tax

>Republican calling literally anyone else a delusionist
Lmao, the fucking irony.

Is this a meme?

Said the constitution burner lol

I have bodily autonomy? Good! Ill just kill whoever I want with MY body.

Imagine honestly, unironically finding this to be true.

And Kentucky's

>graphed on the political spectrum
What graph? And who graphed it? Are you just making shit up now?

Reddit is here arguing with strawmen

The great political debate in a nutshell

You act like they just kill people for nothing there. People are only put to death for crimes in which they have caused a magnitude of suffering in the community so large that a jury of their peers has decided, through a democratic process, to give them the ultimate punishment. I wouldn't live in a state that DIDN'T allow it. Look at murder stats by state in regards to death penalty legality. I'll take a few criminals getting the shot before I trade them for the lives of the innocent.

That meme applies to both parties.

Go outside and get a job faggot the internet has warped whats left of your snowflake infected brain.

>I wouldn't live in a state that DIDN'T allow it
Thats funny, I don't even like passing through states with the death penalty.
I have like 0 confidence in your judiciary system, why would I ever get near to a place that can legally kill me if they think they are right.