Out of all my opinions, anti-vaccination seems to be the only one I can't find an ally in. I understand there's no proof vaccines cause autism but there's no proof they don't. If I'm supposed to start buying this then I'll have to reject things like God because you can't prove he doesn't exist. I have faith in both and you can be damn well certain I'm not injecting my kids with garbage. My parents got the measles when they were kids and mine will too. It's fucking natural
Out of all my opinions, anti-vaccination seems to be the only one I can't find an ally in...
Daniel Russell
Jayden Jackson
Nice bait bitch
Alexander Collins
cool thread
Luis Ross
And that's the other thing. My opposition literally can't be taken seriously
Ryan Thomas
>There's no proof they cause autism
That really should have been the end of your conspiracy.
>No proof they don't!!
There's a lot of proof they don't... Someone on Facebook saying there's no proof they don't doesn't mean there's no proof they dont..
>My parents got measles so it's fine.
The death rate is 3 of 1000. Sounds low except it can be extremely devastating in a pandemic situation, which is why an extremely high vaccine rate is important. It stops the spread and keeps especially immunocompromised children safe. This isn't just about YOUR kid.
Now that we're done with the death rate, there's also the chance of permanent deafness, brain swelling leading to permanent brain damage, a lot of children with measles develop pneumonia then THAT could kill them.
Then there's all the other diseases that carry a much much more higher chance of severe complications like polio. Heck rabies has a 100% mortality rate if you weren't vaccinated. Therea lot of vaccines to be had, why rule out one because it doesn't sound that bad to you?
>It's fucking natural
Yep. Every bit as natural as a bear mailing. It's just trying to eat, user. Natural doesn't mean safe or good or desired. It means part of our reality, and sometimes our reality is terrifying. And we've found a million ways to mitigate the less pretty more deadly parts of our world only to have dumbasses like you say "no I WANT to be sick with a potentially fatal or disabling illness you idiots!!"
Cameron Sanders
Why should it?
Nicholas Wood
>no proof they don't.
YOU SERIOUSLY DENSE MOTHERFUCKER. YOU CANNOT PROVE A NEGATIVE
Camden Flores
Vaccines provide more value than harm, and God is the Universe and therefore exists.
youtu.be
Angel Ramirez
For all the people actually confused, check out kurtzgesagts (or someshit like that) video on the topic
David Campbell
Whoa, meta-bait!!
Dominic Cooper
Jesus fucking Christ you can write a whole book and pretend you know something but the bottom line is you can't prove they don't cause autism and I don't want to hear anything else until you can
Benjamin Cook
>bear mailing
I think we need a drawfag, stat!
Brandon Powell
no
Matthew Powell
you should find better things to pass your time
Nicholas Baker
>but there's no proof they don't
Um you didnt look
annals.org
Carson Taylor
You cant prove a nevative user.. "you can't prove it doesn't" is the most intellectually cowardly argument you can possibly make because it's impossible.
It's like children playing guns and one of the not laying the fuck down because he claimed hes invincible but no one else can be. Just the faggiest little shit no one wants to play with.
But FYI, the national institute of health makes all medical studies publicly disclosed. There is a dot gov website. It's an immensely better source than words on pictures and rhetoric on Facebook. You'll find all you need there. And if you reject that then you are hopelessly stupid. If the "can't prove a negative" argument didn't already make you so.
Nathaniel Hill
God damnit I missed that gem of a typo I made. Thanks user, lold.
Xavier Ward
>no
The antivaxxers greatest weapon
Hudson Lewis
It's to the point I wonder if some foreign power is behind this shit, too. The most immensely dangerous little pseudointellectual retards in the modern world.
Jacob Johnson
Thank you for selecting your own retarded genes for elimination of the gene-pool. Thankfully your kids will most likely die from an entirely preventable disease rather than spread your genes further
Ethan Torres
Vaccines contain a number of harmful chemicals, including the neurotoxin mercury, that don't metabolize properly when introduced directly to the bloodtream. However, the risk these chemicals pose is greatly outweighed by the benefit vaccines provide. Opt for nasal sprays, and a limited vaccine schedule that covers life threatening or debilitating disease.
Thomas Fisher
Yeah this isn't really a good way in which to formulate rational beliefs user. If you choose to believe in something on the basis of there being no negative evidence then logically you should believe every conceivable notion until such evidence emerges.
Where's your evidence that your thoughts and actions are not determined by a democratic society of minature invisible gnomes living in your brain? There isn't any but needless to say I doubt you believe it to be true or even possible.
Christopher Bailey
There is no proof that visiting Yea Forums will not make your left leg longer than the right one. I choose to belive that. Do I sound like an idiot? That's how you sound.
Brandon Evans
>I understand there's no proof vaccines cause autism but there's no proof they don't.
The proof they don't is in the hundreds of millions of lives in a hundred different developed countries who have statistics of autism that aren't even able to move the needle within the margin of error.
Cooper Jones
It's not like I haven't been reading your replies, I have. The problem is if I am supposed to assume vaccines don't cause autism despite there being no proof then I would something like God isn't real because there's no proof
Caleb Gutierrez
You ever heard "the dose makes the poison'"? Water is neurotoxic in surprisingly low doses (7 litres in an hour can be fatal for the average man).
The levels of Mercury in vaccines were so low it was a non issue. There's Mercury in tuna fish. Enough the FDA actually has a recommended amount of tuna to.be eaten per week to avoid neurotoxic effects.
But all that doesn't matter because with all the bitching and moaning from anti vaxxers they've mostly removed it from the vaccines anyway. Literally just to shut people up. And they still don't.
Benjamin Williams
Anti-vaccination isn't the right way to go
Josiah Harris
This bait gave me autism
Gabriel Reyes
>My kids are going to become infected with a disease from the dark ages because it's natural!!!
Good riddance.
Kevin Wood
Okay.
Ethan Brown
I don't mind if your kids die.
Sebastian Clark
I'm a good parent
Wyatt White
Then move to an island with only other idiots like yourself.
Jeremiah Morris
If you're not doing everything you can to protect your kids from real threats, like measles, instead of imaginary threats like autism from vaccines, then no, you are not a good parent.
Logan Diaz
>there's no proof they don't.
There's a shitload of proof they don't you goddamned retard.
Aaron Lopez
We should stop feeding kids. There's no proof food causes autism but 100% of people with autism have eaten food.
John Robinson
You have it wrong. There is no proof that vaccines cause autism, and quite a few comprehensive studies that indicate they don't. Therefore, you have no reason to assume that vaccines cause autism.
Again, you can't prove a negative. I can't prove that there's not a teapot in orbit between Uranus and Neptune. That doesn't mean I should assume that there IS one.
Cooper Murphy
uhh there's literally all the proof in the world that vaccines DO NOT cause autism.
autism is caused by genetics, not an injection of pathogens and various chemical compounds.
if you're going to argue mercury, let's keep in mind most vaccines don't contain and that tuna sandwiches and swordfish have higher concentrations anyway
Brandon Wilson
There is ALL the proof in the world that vaccines don't and can't cause Autism you fuckwit.
Vaccinate your crotchspawn or go fuck yourself you pathetic imbecile.
Autism is better than debilitating 18th century diseases and Autism is genetic.
The only thing Vaccines do is activate your antigen response and inflammation in the immune system.
Julian Gutierrez
That's because it's literally retarded. Death will come soon enough. No need to rush.
Jace Jones
You know what, even if vaccines DID cause autism, I would STILL vaccinate my kids. Because I'd rather have them autistic than dead.
Not that it matters, though. Because VACCINES DO NOT FUCKING CAUSE AUTISM.
Christian Brown
They got German measles, shit for brains
Ryder Butler
Thimerosal has mercury atoms in it, not mercury compound.
Na = explosive crystalline sodium.
Cl2 = Deadly Chlorine gas.
NaCl = fucking table salt.
If you don't know the first fucking thing about chemistry, then don't claim any chemistry-based argument you literal retard.
Cooper Scott
Carson Scott
This, this, fucking THIS.
If you're going to make a scientific argument, but then ignore everything that actual scientists say about it, then you're an idiot.
Caleb Martinez
Why are you crying about your kids getting autism anyway?
1. There's many functional austists, just look at Yea Forums.
2. You're not gonna have kids anyway.
3. Even if you somehow did have kids, you clearly already have it so the odds aren't im their favor to begin
Nathan Moore
let the anti vac fags do their thing, its good for the gene pool if stupid people die.
some of them might be naturally immune, these ones should be allowed to breed with specially selected high IQ partners to offset their stupid genes
Levi Edwards
IF only the stupid people died, we wouldn't have any problem with them whatsoever but they usually infect sane people too. Viruses and bacteria mutate the longer a particular strain lives and inside an antivax host, there is a strong chance they'll mutate to the point the vaccinated peoples' immune systems don't recognize it from the vaccinations anymore.
They're not just retards; they're public health menaces.
Nolan Gonzalez
There is a lot of proof that vaccines do not cause autism
Blake Murphy
Looks like OP isn’t the retard here.
Colton Sullivan
How do I disprove this?
Lincoln Lopez
If a woman has measles as a child there is very little chance that it will be serious. She will then have lifelong immunity from measles, something which vaccines don't give. Vaccines don't even give short term immunity in some people. When the woman with naturally acquired lifelong immunity has a child, that immunity is passed on to the child through the placenta and through breastmilk. So the baby is not likely to catch measles until they are over a year or so old.
When a mother hasn't had measles and has no immunity because she was vaccinated as a child and the vaccine no longer works in her body, the baby has no immunity.
The mother, vaccinated as a child, may go on to catch measles in old age as her immune system declines.
This is why the best protection from measles for the most vulnerable groups, newborns and the elderly, is for people to catch measles when they are children, and most able to cope with it. As people used to do, until measles vaccines. Not as now, when they are babies with no immunity, or elderly. The measles vaccine is nothing more than a money making scheme which has caused more problems than it has protected against.
Ayden Reyes
Lifelong immunity is a myth.
1. Mutation can render it moot.
2. You only become able to generate immune system cells that know how to kill the one strain you got. You can still get it again and again if your Helper B cells, Memory cells and neutrophils didn't manage to properly learn to recognize the virus the first time around.
A lot of people get chicken pox and measles more than once.
Nolan Turner
Absolutely not true. You can not get measles twice.
It is possible to get chicken pox twice but it is very rare to do so. You're talking out your ass.
Landon Peterson
i literally know someone who has...
Michael Miller
same here.
It may be super rare, but rare isn't zero chance.
Jacob Gray
It's not about vaccination
It's that people would prefer to have their child die than raise an autistic spergblasting shit tard.
Can you blame them?
Hudson Howard
Not measles.
Adam Butler
Yes. I can and do and I'll beat them for it.
Henry Fisher
Blake Lewis
Bringing polar bears into this isn't necessarily the right way to go. I can understand maybe you're trying to calm people's nerves but this is something that goes beyond that. You really have to understand the gravity of this dialogue
Nicholas Robinson
Kurtzgesagt is a stupid lefty channel that draws in normie pseudo-intellectuals with “look at this guy he English tat meeb he smart” yes they have good videos and have been relatively scientifically sound in the past, but they massively oversimplify things and they appeal to authority without citing their sources and draw in childlike people with bright and colourful animations.
Thomas Torres
>bear mailing
keep having your down syndrome babies you commie fag
Michael Garcia
Why would you even be saying this in the first place
Asher Lee
Vaccinate everything
William Harris
You are a literal troll
Dominic Jenkins
>It's that people would prefer to have their child die than raise an autistic spergblasting shit tard.
you're evil
Liam Sanders
You're gonna get your vaccinations or else STOP RESISTING!!!
John Watson
Cameron Nelson
stop killing the world with propaganda u faggot
Aiden Collins
Actually, you're worse than faggots, because at least fags keep their sickness to themselves.
Eli Cooper
Fuck anti-vaxx
Aaron Thomas
Right, except the measles is known to kill millions and cause a widespread pandemic. If you don't vaccinate your kids, you will single handledly start a plague. I'm pretty sure if your parents weren't vaccinated, they still had you vaccinated because they knew a sickness like that could cause harm not just to your kids, but the entire species as well.
Logan Rogers
Modern science is bullshit today just as much as it has always been. If you believe in germs and bacteria and viruses you might as well believe in flying spaghetti monsters and space magic too.
Jose Moore
Only the strong survive and only the strong deserve to survive.
Easton Perry
>not putting all religious people indiscriminately into the gulag
there is no excuse, the soviet union was too liberal and democratic
if it went Stalins way all that filth would've been cleansed
Isaiah Adams
>Only the strong survive and only the strong deserve to survive.
say that when you're old, ppl like u are the worse
Nathaniel Parker
Why the fuck does Yea Forums think post is spam?
I literally brought up a bunch of links to Nation Scientific articles showing that vaccinations don't cause cancer while making fun of OP, yet the Yea Forums bot thinks it was fucking Spam?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Also, if THIS post isn't counted as spam, I'm fucking done with this retarded site.
Easton Kelly
I'M FUCKING DONE FUCK THIS SITE
Ian James
Test
Joshua Phillips
Hoping I die of super aids before that happens but all you vaxer fags are making it harder for me gramps
Henry Cox
IF THE IMAGE WAS NOT THE THING MAKING MY POST "SPAM" THEN I FUCKING KNOW WHY I COULDN'T POST IT
FUCKING COME ON
Camden Sullivan
>only the strong survive
>cries about "victims of communism"
Anthony Fisher
THIS ONE ISN'T COUNTED AS SPAM EITHER?!
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Nathan Peterson
just spend lots of times in and around hospitals and you'll catch something
germs and all the good stuff are more resistant there
Jack Hall
Your autism is showing....
Carter Foster
that image you posted is a true meme and im impressed. done post it often okay bro?
Hunter Cruz
Vaccines cause premature organ failure kidney stones and brain issues that mock bi polar disorder, ADHD and life long chronic depression but that's a small price to pay to not get red itchy bumps that you will get anyway and then 100 times worse when you're older.
Owen Scott
List all the way because it couldn't be more obvious. Everyone has ever gotten my vaccine knows that the rest is always there. Cancer is also highly associated with the increased vaccine amounts. Vaccines are basically saying of the devil and all around cancer everyone needs to die who has vaccine. Vaccines Jose super infant Mega devil
Carter Thomas
The problem with the anti-vax movement is that it assumes there are any perfectly safe medical treatments. There aren't. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of statistics and the benefits of modern medicine in spite of occasional dangers.
Benjamin Rivera
You're all just research monkeys.
Nolan Wilson
CANT PROVE DOESNT CAUSE AUTISM