Please /b help - I'd like to buy a new receiver and I found Marantz 2275. If I want to pair it with a phono...

>do I need a pre-amp?
No, it has connectors for both magnetic and ceramic turntables. Nice chooice, OP.

bump

which turnable?

Technics SL-5100
Pioneer PL 550
Technics SL-Q3

Attached: keks.png (1100x1997, 1.84M)

Pioneer

why?

Now I have Sony PS-D707h do I hope new turntable is going to be noticeably better

Bump

What speakers are you running? You may be able to get a less expensive model and have the same sound you want. Something like a 2245 may have all the power you need.

I need to buy speakers too

I have Sony SSA 509

Why are you after Marantz? They are nice, but so are receivers from other manufacturers in the 70s and early 80s. Marantz will come at a premium that I don't know is justified.

I don't know - I just picked Marantz, I liked how it looks :) it's in my price range, I can't afford stuff like McIntosh etc. Would you suggest something different?

Depends on what you're after, I suppose. If you like how they look, and don't mind spending the money, you won't be dissapointed in how they sound if working properly. I restored a 2265 and while I like it, I wouldn't pay the asking price for one.

I also have a Pioneer SX-850 that I restored. If all I was doing was listening to vinyl, I would use it over the Marantz. However, I like that the Marantz takes a bit of the edge off of digital music, so I find it a good compromise.

>SX-850
I found SX-850, but it's more expensive - around 950USD

I'll use it for vinyl only

if you want music go to christian based church instead of being brainwashed by jews

That's very overpriced for an sx-850, it should be cheaper than the Marantz.
However, it seems like they're all overpriced right now.

SX-850, SX-950, and SX-1050 are all excellent. They are all built like tanks (More robust than the similar Marantz models) and sound excellent. They have real wood veneer and are also great looking.

If you want to save money and want something with big power, look at Realistic STA-2100 and STA-2300

I found Marantz 2245 for 500USD

If your speakers don't require a ton of power, that would be nice as well. I have a pair of Elac Debut B6.2 that I got on sale for 150 during the holidays that pair well with it. However, if I had the cash, I would probably have gone with the floor speakers (F6.2)

The Jews did 9/11

>Nothing made today compares to the warmth and depth these old receivers put out.
hipster nonsense

Yeah, he's just regurgitating buzz words.

I've owned a lot of these things and they all sound different from each other, you can't describe them all as sounding the same.

>new receiver
>vintage

not the same thing. understand the chance of that having a decent amount of floor noise is high. to recap it you're looking at several hundred dollars. if the tranny is not outputting correctly one channel will be significantly louder than the other. And all of these issues are pretty damn high.

consider how much you are looking at spending on this amp, how much getting it up to full working order might cost. then consider something newer.

the teac ai series, nad 3020, emotive basx will all sound as good or better and you're not worrying about any of those issues. you can buy a competent preamp for phono for 100 or less.

subjectively and objectively wrong.

literally any 400+ new amp will blow these out of the water.

For the prices he is quoting, these should hopefully be restored units. Also, as long as it is working well and not a low end unit, noise floor shouldn't be an issue.

Have you had transformer issues? I've owned maybe a dozen vintage receivers and have yet to come across a transformer issue. Mostly caps, transistors, protection relays, and controls are the issues.

You're right though, they don't make a lot of economic sense if you aren't getting them cheap and fixing them yourself. 80s stuff gets a bad rap, but there are a lot of excellent receivers that are just as good or better than anything in the 70s and can be had super cheap.

Depends on the amp. If it's actually a quality amplifier/receiver, sure. If it's a cheap home theater receiver from best buy, it won't be as good at music, and won't have a phone preamp.

only transformer issue i had between 10 or so vintage amps was on a teac ah501, which I guess being 20 or so years old might be vintage.

But floor noise was always an issue with vintage. I finally broke down and bought an AI-2000 around 5 years ago and wont fuck with vintage again.

As an aside. Along the lines of
>hurr they dont make them like this anymore
I have been looking at the luxman l-550 a lot recently. Very old design.

Hmm, maybe your speakers reveal noise floor than mine. As long as I was using a higher model receiver (Marantz 2265, Pioneer SX-850, Realistic STA-2300, Pioneer SX-838) I never noticed it. Now on lower models (Sansui 661, Pioneer SX-535) I did.

the highest end vintage I had were the SX-1050 and an MC2105 with a couple different preamps. Depending on what you consider high end for vintage but generally these are up there.

Been running upgraded cornwalls for years now, so yea they are very effecient.

Yeah, having horn tweeters will make them super sensitive. Maybe one day I'll shift to newer stuff, but I enjoy finding stuff that people discard and bringing it back to life. You can't deny the workmanship and quality of materials that went into the older stuff. It's a shame stuff isn't still built that way, but if they were, only the wealthiest could afford it.

I am not trying to disuade everyone from vintage.

I was just throwing out a few issues and a few examples of modern amps that should be around the same price point that should sound as good for years to come.

Unless you are in person and know what to check on an amp, or have the knowledge or willingness to learn about repairing and bringing vintage up to spec modern may be an easy and quick solution.

it was a good chat though, gotta nap, working afternoons and want a couple hours before I have to get ready.

yeah I have owned many and you put them on a scope and the "different sounds" are different types of distortion, the best amps have less distortion. Most distortion come from the internal power supply of the amp, the better the power supply the better the amp.

That isn't all of it. You could attribute all differences to be distortion if they all had a perfectly flat response, but they don't. Different receivers have different sound coloration. The designers didn't seem to be as obsessed with a perfectly flat response as they are now.

Out of interest because I like these old things, how about a picture from behind to show what connectors it has?

YOU AINT ALIVE UNLESS YOU SEE THE WARM GLOW OF VACCUM TUBES DUDE!!!!

so what should I buy?

Unfortunately nothing with vaccum tubes since they're not made anymore except for maybe some really old computer systems and they cost an arm and a leg.

I second this

Carver makes some good stuff, it's pricey. I love good audio but can't justify the cost of those for a tiny bit of difference that's barely noticable.
google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=carver audio