Why do the democrats want open borders?

simple, they do

because that would cost them votes.

as a democrat i want money spent on boarder control that actually works. a dumb fuck wall that does nothing is fucking stupid, taking that money and pushing it into paying for more boarder patrol/technological barriers/immigration court staff would go a long way in fixing the bullshit system.

>as a democrat
Get out

Attached: 1554658048279.jpg (317x330, 13K)

>as a democrat
>boarder
figures. consistently democrats expose themselves as by far the dumber party.

They don't. I don't think there's a single democrat in office who actually wants open borders, they just don't want Trump's wall because it's an ego project that's just a waste of money and won't work.

I think political parties are stupid, I think it divides us to much, I get it’s purpose but why can’t we just handle every problem as it is without having a party to split us, yes obviously some will say stricter borders and others will say open them, but we should all decide as fucking 1, cuz we’re fucking Americans

Every single candidate, except for maybe Biden, is running on open borders. Any other fake news?

>import Mexicans by the millions
>drive down the cost of labor and force lower classes to take even less money because Jose will do it cheaper
>drive up housing costs because Jose doesn't mind splitting a three bedroom house with seven people
>take more in taxes because Jose isn't paying his fair share and we need it to pay for the increase of social services
>start voting away what's left of the Bill of Rights because that's how Jose wants his new country run damnit!
>use this as a reason to import more roaches from shithole countries because now America is a shithole country and really it makes no difference
>laugh because while white college kids were screaming for equality and more gibs you just set yourself up for life because you're a Democrat and the whole plan was to plunge the country into shit while you stayed firmly at the top

Attached: 1555861989758.jpg (450x337, 19K)

They literally aren't
In fact during the government shutdown crisis, the democrat-controlled House introduced several budgets that included millions of dollars for border control. It just didn't have a wall so Trump refused to look at it.
Stop getting your news from Fox News

Literally no dem has said this.

Why do republicans pay for school shootings?
Why do republicans kill journalists?
Why do republicans hate science and facts?

> fake news
For a trumpcuck everything he doesn't like or hurts his feelings is fake news...

Really? The only aid people in need are getting is by coming here illegally or abusing the system and then getting the aid we paid for with our taxes. Its funny how all of these large, liberal cities are shit-holes which want illegals to come there - but have huge problems with homeless people. Can't take care of actual citizens, but will cater to illegals.
>Also, someone needs to do the low-pay work...

The problem with that is the work is low-paying because they've hired illegals to do it, thus driving the wages down. No one wants to legally work for less than minimum wage and no commission. So, it is a lie based upon cheating the system.

Did you see the report the CNN "reporter" did where he was in a border town with a wall and was bragging about how the wall there wasn't needed because no one was trying to get in there? You know. Where there was a wall to stop people from getting in.

In addition to that, when they thought it would get them votes, Biden, Hillary, Obama, Pelosi and almost all of them said we needed a wall and/or coming here illegally was wrong.

Now, when they see how many votes they can get by calling it a racist wall, they say it is inhumane.

true. My sister voted for Trump and she is livid about his performance so far. So I brought up his promises: build a wall, make mexico pay for it, lock up Hillary, replace Obamacare with a better version that coosts less, stop foreign wars, control immigration, spend all his time working and not golfing. All of these he promised. He has done pretty much the opposite of all of them.

She still won't vote for a Democrat, but she would take any Republican other than Trump.

You should start watching Fox news, because that is where you'll see dems going on about open borders and how horrible it is that President Trump used tear gas at the border and separated families - just like Obama did.

Because we'd actually get people in the country that want to work. Can't fucking get people to do shit nowadays. Firing them doesn't help because the next shithead white piece of shit that gets hired isn't doing shit either.

Being against illegal immigration is not equivalent to wanting a wall, they're two very different things. But nice try.

Attached: 7205833368.jpg (2112x1614, 142K)

>just like Obama did.
so Obama was right

Attached: butt dimples.jpg (900x644, 197K)

There isn't anything wrong with political parties, as long as they both have a common goal of improving things based upon the law.

The big problem is that the left will oppose any and all things the right does, while the right will actually try to work with the left. The left was in favor of a wall / against illegals coming here when Obama was running for office and in office. Now they are totally against it.

Neither side is perfect, but the left have ruined this country with their divisiveness. They are what caused ANTIFA to rise up. They are why FB and Twitter and other places like that silence Conservatives for no reason other than they don't like what Conservatives say.

And the left wing media constantly lies about what is going on. They bash President Trump for his policies on immigrants. His policy on immigrants is the same as Obama's was. President Trump, however, is coming down hard on ILLEGAL immigrants. But, the left always seems to forget to include the word, "ILLEGAL."

Or how about how they want to hold Barr in contempt for not breaking the law, but defend Holder for actually breaking the law and getting held in contempt?

Until the left plays by the same rules they have for everyone else, this country will never heal.

Your "sister" sounds like a nigger-loving cunt

this board is full of NEETs who won't leave the basement. But hey, immigrants are taking our jobs!

School shootings happen in "gun free zones" which dems push for.

Which journalists were killed by a Republican? If any, was the killer punished?

Why do dems believe that a person is what he or she identifies as, and thus ignore science and facts?

Attached: Catie-Wayne-Boxxy-Naked-001---TheFappening.nu4ebb367bac0da8c6.jpg (432x398, 27K)

Attached: FKSYS.jpg (500x500, 134K)

White people are doomed. Its called natural selection.

She's livid about a great economy? She's livid because the AG spent 2 years going after him on a lie? She's livid because he's pulled troops out?

Except that it is proven that where there is an actual barrier it works to keep illegals out.

When did I say Obama wasn't right for enforcing the laws? He flat out said illegals were wrong to come here. The problem is, he also changed the rules in his 2nd term so that more and more illegals had the incentive to come here.

>the left will oppose any and all things that the right does, while the right will actually try to work with the left
You mean like when Obama watered down the ACA multiple times in a futile attempt to get Republican support, and the GOP later tried to threaten a government shutdown in order to kill it? Or like when McConnell proudly declared that his goal as Senate Majority Leader was to make Obama a "one-term president"? Or the most recent govenrment shutdown where the GOP refused to pass any budget without wall funding (when they themselves had passed a budget sans wall back before the Democrats took over the House, only for Trump not to sign it because "muh wall")?

If anything it is the Democrats who have constantly tried to work with the Republicans, who in turn have stonewalled them at every turn and always been the ones to up the partisan gamesmanship.

Attached: 3449578084.jpg (1612x1270, 156K)

Providing aid to people in need... That’s a civil issue not a governmental issue. If you feel bad Venezuela has taken up communism & now It’s people are starving to death you should personally donate your time & money to them. I’m Mexican American, from a border town & I get to witness the murders committed by the cartels. Nothings being done to stop them build the wall.

Circular logic. Bring in people who you can pay way less than actual citizens, then complain that you can't get citizens to actually work for the wages you are paying illegals.

Then, to top it off, artificially inflate the minimum wage to a point where businesses now have incentives to use more machinery for low skilled jobs than to use actual people.

Reagan started the ball rolling with the DREAM Act. Not Obama. Reagan. Pull your head out of your ass.

Attached: 1557209778884.jpg (915x915, 113K)

Walls work for Israel

Attached: Dirty Wars.png (1318x522, 873K)

SCUD missiles work for Iran

We believe in social Dawinism, just like you guys.
Show up to work and earn your shitty wages, or shut up and let your pathetic race die.

Attached: shitpost.jpg (1308x2688, 653K)

It's called invasion. You do realize in comparison to the world population, whites are out numbered? There are far more black people and asian. Who the fuck cares if we have a country or two that is white dominant? Are we going to go yell at Japan for having 95% Japanese people and not enough black or any other race?

Keep the UK, US, Canada, and Australia white. UK might already be fucked like the other "white dominant" countries I didn't mention.

>Israel's barrier is completely covered by patrols and covers a much smaller area than the border wall would.
>We don't have enough ICE agents to patrol an almost 2,000-mile long wall.
>Massive underground tunnel networks that walls are useless against.
>Wall would be ridiculously expensive, not only due to the engineering costs of a massive wall in the desert but also all of the eminent domain buyouts the government would have to do (especially in Texas whose residents are famously protective of their land)
The problem isn't that the wall is inhumane or that it would stop immigration, the problem is that it wouldn't be nearly effective enough to justify the massive costs to American taxpayers. Why should my tax money go to one man's ego trip that won't even work?

>You mean like when Obama watered down the ACA multiple times in a futile attempt to get Republican support,

No, I mean like how Obama said his WH wouldn't be open to lobbyists. Then, he shut out the dozen Republican lawmakers who were in the medical field and instead had insurance company lobbyists help draft Obamacare. Not to mention how Reid and Pelosi kept all Republican ideas from ever getting out of committee.

I also mean how when the GOP shut down the government and then gave in Obama didn't compromise anything.

And I have no problem with either side trying to make the opposing President a one-term POTUS. The difference is the GOP didn't go after Obama with the DOJ for a BS reason while covering up for their own candidate.

Yes, the GOP should have done more for funding, but it is quite telling how the left has done a 180 on the wall and security because President Trump is actually doing something about it.

To say dems have worked with the Republicans is intellectually dishonest at best.

Trump logic

GM closes a plant and moves to Mexico, 4000 jobs lost in Ohio alone. "but Trump had nothing to do with that!"

GM stock hits a record high after the move. "Trump's economy is booming!"

No elected official wants open boarders. That's 100% fox news straw man.

We want strong boarders. We want automated high tech boarder security, cameras, drone patrol, sensors. We don't an expensive fucking wall that anyone can get over with a rope ladder.

To share pools

Attached: 1548438248546.jpg (1200x802, 452K)

Because republicans dont. Easy as that. They've reversed their views on so many thing in the last decade for the same reason.

Attached: 1557176685741.jpg (640x581, 113K)

>fires bottle rocket into illegal israeli settlement
Nothing personal kid

A manned wall, sure. And we can't/shouldn't pay another 7000 rent-a-cops to do it...forever. We should either start rapidly naturalizing them (a la Ellis Island) and taxing the labor or adopt extremely aggressive deportation (like the Swiss) making it a financial danger to try. Its the half measures that both sides push for that fuck up the resolution.

Obama changed the asylum rules so that all they had to do was say the right words and they would get in without hesitation. It didn't matter if they were coming from a country that wasn't a shit-hole.

But, your shit-hole large, liberal cities will gladly use your tax dollars to protect illegals from prosecution and deportment so they can rob and kill again.

Wow you really drank the fear mongering koolaid.

HAHAHAH watch fox news much?

Literally no one wants open borders.

Reagan

i don't think any of these anarchist college drop outs are running.

Not sure why you think it wouldn't work. It is easy enough to tell where people are tunneling through and stop it.

It won't be perfect. Nothing is. But, it is worth the time and money to do it.

What is not worth the time or money is allowing sanctuary cities to protect illegals.

Democrats voted for fencing along the border in 2006, not a border wall. Again, you're trying to be sneaky and make the border wall and border security equivalent when they are not. Trump himself called that fence "a nothing wall"
This is yet another example of Trumpists refusing to argue in good faith and then wondering why people don't trust them.

nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/republicans-admit-everything-they-said-about-obama-was-a-lie.html

God I want to beat the shit out of that stupid bitch

get out of the basement already

Attached: 41Ic74v6MtL._SX425_.jpg (425x201, 19K)

99.999% of the planning for 9/11 happened when Clinton was in office and Clinton received warnings about an attack - "Bush's fault!"

Eight years of a shit economy under Obama, President Trump lowers taxes and cuts regulations and the economy booms - "Obama's economy!"

Thread

Thankfully I don't have any STDs

Attached: 0 OoXZ7NExZCjABJlM.jpg (400x438, 39K)

>No elected official wants open boarders. That's 100% fox news straw man.

We'd believe you if you actually ever watched Fox News.

But, if you did watch Fox News you'd see the videos of the dem candidates talking about open boarders and how no person is illegal, as well as all of the problems in sanctuary cities.

Open borders are fundamentally horrible for the free market 100% of the time. For Both sides of the equation. Democrats don't give a fuck about the downtrodden beyond their votes. Republicans don't care about the poor either, but at least their honest about it.

All three of them are incompetent faggots

>muh safespace
Kill yourself

You do know why that work is low pay right?

The problem is, the left will never go for it as long as they think they can get votes by opposing it.

Along the areas of the border where there is a wall, you don't find many people crossing it. It is where there is no wall where "rent-a-cops" are needed. More walls limits where they can cross.

Borders i can see are between lands and seas from space.

Attached: NamefromSat.jpg (926x660, 102K)

Attached: 1545588140049.jpg (480x399, 28K)

STOP POSTING IN THESE GOD DAMN JIDF/TURNING POINT USA THREADS YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. LITERALLY A DISCORD TALKING TO ITSELF LIKE SOME DEBATE IS ACTUALLY TAKING PLACE.

>i was a democrat but i watched ben shapiro once and now i fucking love walls, israel, and donald trump

>Reagan

The greatest President in the past 100+ years.

What other points do you want to make while ignoring the facts?

It may keep a few people out. But it won't be nearly effective enough to justify the extreme cost to American taxpayers.
People often bring up the effectiveness of the Israeli border wall, which is 440 miles long. Trump has said that the proposed US border wall wouldn't need to cover the entire border, but it should cover about 1,000 miles. You'll notice that that's over twice the length of the Israel wall. Do you really think that we would be able to patrol the entire thing? It would likely be trivial for illegal immigrants to scale unpatrolled sections of the wall.

Trumpists constantly try to push the wall debate of being a matter of whether border security is justified or not, when to most Democrats its about cost-effectiveness. Again, why should I have to help pay for one man's vanity project?

Keith Ellison for one does

Interesting. I guess I'll just say thank you for agreeing to everything I posted previously.

Funny, I don't see you bitching about the ACTUAL shill threads on Yea Forums. Why is that faggot? Too busy jacking off to nigger porn?

Everyone's accepted that "the wall" is a ridiculous idea, which is why the new narrative is an even more generalized "border security"... whatever the hell that means. All that means to me is tax payer money being funneled to private security companies owned by Trump.

>It may keep a few people out. But it won't be nearly effective enough to justify the extreme cost to American taxpayers.

"Extreme cost."

You do realize that what President Trump was asking for wasn't even 1% of the Federal budget, right? I mean, it's not like we never piss money away on making sure men can compete against women because the man wakes up one day and says he identifies as a women, right?

And Obama's "shovel ready" stimulus bill was so cost effective that they had to pass it so we could see what was in it, right?

Ever heard the tale of Caracalla the Roman Emperor?
I'll give you the quick version Mr Caracalla liked power and money, lots of money but he realised to keep both he needs more taxes and the people won't allow higher taxes so what does he do?
Well the answer is simple. He decrees what is now known as "The Caracalla Edict" which makes the 28mn non citizens across the Empire immediate Roman citizens with all the rights and opportunities that brings. He gets a huge population that loves him for giving them rights and a big increase to his wealth thanks to a lot of extra tax income.
This however would late have major consequences such as army shortages as no one wanted to join now that they have citizenship as one example.

TL;DR They do it for more votes and tax revenue in the short term and don't give a shit about the long term cost.

Also the woman in your pic has the eyes of an insane person. I don't know who she is but I don't like her. I've seen those eyes in serial killers,dictators,BPD sufferers and warlords.

>All that means to me is tax payer money being funneled to private security companies owned by Trump.

It means that to you because that is the lie you've made up to continue to justify your hatred for President Trump.

>more easily
so it's about you

Why are you leftists faggots acting like now, all of a sudden out of fucking nowhere you care about wasting other people's money? That's literally all you fucking do is waste everyone's money and time on bullshit. Mostly giving it away to niggers and spics. But now you want to cry about muh spending and muh tax dollars, fuck outta here.

Teenagers and college students would be glad to do it, like they did before we exploited illigal bean labor

Just do what the Koreans did and put 2mn landmines across the border except at the official crossing points. Mark that they are entering a minefield(for legal reasons).
Job done.

>If i say nigger and faggot enough I'll fit in

You're a shill in a shill thread shilling about shill threads on a fucking shill board

despite Trump's promises many actual estimates of the walls cost come in at around 50 billion dollars. I don't give a shit about what fraction of the national budget that is, that's money that could be going to something that's actually going to be effective. That doesn't even include the cost of annual maintenance (in the desert).

And I thought that the Republicans were against big government spending.

>So few actual posters three different shills jumped on this post in hopes of getting paid.
Beautiful

>republicans suddenly love big government spending as long as its to fuel their king's ego trip

You're a faggot expressing your faggot shit to everyone else ITT. Please leave, we're trying to have a fucking conversation here.

oh yeah? those economics trickling down for you, are they? you one of the rich now because of old reags?

give it up man he put shit in place decades ago that hasn't helped you once

We're the whales and they're the whale hunters. Remember they only get you if you flee, use your greater intelligence and passion to overturn the base of their hollow, barberous rhetoric. Show them that your perception is unchanged by their attempts to own you, then express your honest thoughts proudly like a flame beating the darkness!

Roman citizenship was a bugbear throughout Rome's entire existence. Under the early Republic system where only landowners could be soldiers, it worked for a while until huge corporate conglomerates started buying up all the farm and the land (because when a Roman soldier spent years out in the field there was a good chance his farm could go into default). It's estimated that by the time that Marius reformed the military, there were as few as 700 actual Roman soldiers left, with the rest of the military being filled by mercenaries.

Italian ally states would also often be conscripted into Roman wars, but without the benefits of Roman citizenship, one of the many factors that would lead to several wars over the topic. The Gracchi brothers (who turned out to be right about literally everything) knew this was a problem, but when they tried to fix it they were murdered. If the Senate had seen what this would lead to (the death of the Republic), they would've begged on their knees for the Gracchan reforms.

reag trickles down
clinton redregs everything
bush trickles and tarps
obomber makes trickle permanent and let
s wall street walk

team t-shirts are so 90's

Attached: 0pr8yv4898yw49.jpg (416x416, 21K)

>Why do the democrats want open borders?
Because jews hate homogeneous societies. They're not able to fuck everyone over at the same time in them. So they promote the importation of destructive, parasitic, hateful, people who are incompatible with civilized human society. They slowly take over the media, entertainment, education, law, and finance in order to push society in the direction they collectively want so they can destroy it. They're incapable of creating; they can only destroy. They are literal demons sent from hell to turn this world into the nether realm. No one in their right mind would ever want to live among people are fundamentally different and diametrically opposed to them.

Attached: just post the demographics.jpg (1024x751, 161K)

>Why do the democrats want open borders?
For the same reason republicans want to kick out anyone who's not a dumb white coal miner.

Well this is just retarded and you should feel bad for posting it. Hang in there though, we're looking for a safe space for you.

Ever wonder what that whooshing sound is that you hear over your head every few minutes? lol

Attached: 48363470_10217997297070709_573267096226496512_n.jpg (960x728, 67K)

You still need that safe space? They have them over at Fagbook, you should head on over.

>on the one hand, I'm not very smart
>but on the other, I'm a bigot, so I've got that going for me

Everyone wants to help. Till these fucken ppl are camped out on their front lawn.

They don't, Boris

Attached: trump_shill12.jpg (600x450, 61K)

They do, Boris

Attached: snowflakes_1524257464731.jpg (480x471, 39K)

Putin still pays you guys? sweet deal

Attached: trump_shills.jpg (420x315, 129K)

They are against big government spending, when it is bullshit welfare, SJW crap as opposed to spending on things which are required by law - such as the common defense.

Attached: Obumfuck_Embarassment.jpg (480x430, 30K)

A common defense that won't even work and is a waste of billions of dollars? May as well just burn that money.
Remember when Mexico was supposed to pay for it?

Yes, sweetheart. They did wonders for me. I've had my best economic times when I was working and there was a Republican POTUS. I've had my worst times when there was a dem.

It's funny how the left whines about income inequity and how they will solve all of societies problems by raising taxes and giving more stuff away - all while making themselves wealthy beyond compare. If they actually cared about "poor people" they won't take so much for themselves.

The Republicans make themselves wealthier while giving people the opportunities to enrich themselves.

>Everyone wants to help. Till these fucken ppl are camped out on their front lawn.

At which point, the wealthy liberals, especially the politicians, will build walls around their multiple homes and hire people with guns to make sure those immigrants, homeless people and drug addicts don't get too close.

It doesn't work according to who, a liberal pussy like yourself?

It won't work, except that it is already proven to work. Again, remember the CNN "reporter" who was boasting how there was no crises at the boarder in a town which had a wall?

You mean like how the trickle-down meme has only accelerated the wealth gap and none of the wealth has actually "trickled down" because real wages have been stagnant for decades?
>gibmedats are okay when its for corporations

I was and am no fan of either of theirs, but people's memories are really short. We had horrible POTUS's between 1865 and 1923.

Obama was just an ignorant, racist, SJW who had no clue as to how the real world worked since he never lived in the real world. But, he wasn't corrupt.

Had Hillary won, she would have given the POTUS's between 1865 - 1923 a run for their money when it came to corruption.

I'm still waiting for the day you faggots FINALLY stop fucking crying about other people and their money. You didn't answer my question, by the way.

According to people who've ever heard of ladders

Funny how under Obama's "leadership" the only ones who really did well were the wealthy.

You're the one who's crying that we don't just let poor people starve. Enjoy guzzling corporate cock, I'm sure that the jizz will trickle down any decade now.

>I'm still waiting for the day you faggots FINALLY stop fucking crying about other people and their money.

They do that because they are too stupid to understand it isn't earnings which make the difference, it is spending. They just want more money so they can piss it away on stupid things and not have to work for it.

Millionaires go broke all of the time because they spend too much. People who aren't wealthy can improve their lot in life by not smoking, drinking a lot of soda or alcohol, not using drugs, not buying new cars, not having all of the newest gadgets and such.

But, where is the fun in that??? Yo, I can't pay my rent but look at these $185 sneakers I just got.

But, of course, it is the Republican's fault because they don't want to give away more welfare to people who are able to work but refuse to.

I seriously want to smack anyone who ever spews the words, "living wage."

So are you going to answer my question? Because I don't have all day for your fucking shit.

>what the fuck is a real wage
Not everyone who is on welfare doesn't work Almost all of Walmart's employees are on welfare.

And now they want to increase the minimum wage to $15 an hour nation-wide, which is absolutely ridiculous, and give niggers reparations as if they don't get enough gibs already. Everything the dems want and promote is literally gibs that are paid for by people with jobs who don't get gibs. It's fucking ridiculous at this point.

>cries about "living wage"
>also cries that people on welfare don't work which means that a living wage would be irrelevant
this is your brain on trump

>Not everyone who is on welfare doesn't work Almost all of Walmart's employees are on welfare.

Whose fault is that? Who ever said that working one part-time job was enough to make ends meet? Who ever said it was a good idea to drop out of school? Who ever said it was a good idea to not learn a marketable skill?

So what you are saying is that people don't get any welfare / assistance if they work?

Interesting. How drunk were you when you thought that up?

And how many of those same people buy brand new IPhones on credit and smoke weed every fucking day?

And lets not forget that the liberals ALWAYS make sure they get the biggest slice of the pie first.

I've known some liberal activists who actually survive on a small paycheck because they give so much of their earnings away or work with the needy and don't make much. I completely admire those people.

Then you have Nancy Pelosi who is a millionaire living in a house with a wall around it. Or Bernie, the Socialist, who has 3 houses.

If those shit stains would walk the walk I'd support them.

I can't tell you how many people I work with who bitch about their wages as they stand outside smoking, drinking a soda and talking on their cellphone.

One guy I am pretty close with and he was bitching about it one day and I said I could get him a $60 a week raise with no effort at all. He cussed me out when told him to quit smoking.

She is hot.Why do all republican women look like men in drag?

Attached: XPJAVsY2VFU_640x360.jpg (640x360, 19K)

Always remember. Never stick your dick in crazy.

>I said I could get him a $60 a week raise with no effort at all. He cussed me out when told him to quit smoking.
kek, you fucking deserved it.

>kek, you fucking deserved it.

Why? For telling the truth?

You know he won't ever answer. Liberalism can't hold up to logic and rational thought. They have to base everything upon emotions to help ease their guilt - and then get someone else to pay for it so they can keep their wealth.

explain to me why Millionaires pay less taxes than average people like yourself ? Please use Facts and Logic.

Open borders is the latest political fashion.
Makes no sense like taking the doors off in your house but they want it because it's cool.
Same thing went down with communism it was the shit to have in the 60s.

because they're smart and you are not. why would a rich person want to pay for gibs given to niggers and spics? maybe if the left actually did something useful with tax money they wouldn't mind paying, but that's not the case at the moment.

>They slowly take over the media, entertainment, education, law, and finance
You're more than welcome to learn any of those fields and work in it.
As a jew I don't support open borders because it makes no sense to reward people for breaking immigration laws.
As for your hating on jews תאכל תחת

>explain to me why Millionaires pay less taxes than average people like yourself ? Please use Facts and Logic.

Because they can afford to give away more of their money and by doing so can take tax credits, thus lowering the percentage they pay.

These are actually options available to anyone who itemizes their tax return.

>Because they can afford to give away more of their money
Notice how the left NEVER brings this up, that the rich donates millions of dollars each year to charity

>You're more than welcome to learn any of those fields and work in it.

It's funny how those who hate the Jews often are liberal and very accepting of mooslums. Even if the stereotype of Jews being greedy is true, at least they pay people to work for them, don't blame women for getting raped and don't throw homosexuals off of buildings.

>Notice how the left NEVER brings this up,

That is because it doesn't fit their narrative and makes them feel guilty for being wealthy and hoarding their money.

Do you mean Republican women who serve in Congress or the Senate, or just Republican women in general?

i never said the dems were any better. at all. i just think reagan is a piece of shit that set most of america up for failure. but i'm not the person you think you're arguing with. i'd curb that attitude if you ever want this country to get better.

and if you think republicans give people more access and equity than dems you're a white man who only cares about other white men. i am also a white man, before you get your panties in a twist and start getting racist on me.

Wage suppression. Neo-Liberals want to kill the middle class and generate a large welfare state where no one really has a way to make money unless you already have a lot of money to begin with. Thatcher and Reagan basically prove neo-conservatism had massive potential for enriching the rich, Blair and Clinton were two particularly good examples of neo-liberalism policies that were also able to enrich the rich.

Right now the whole open borders thing is entirely due to the fact replacing most if not all of the workforce with robots right now would trigger a French Revolution like war where the right will lose their heads. Its easier to just keep importing cheap labor, keep burdening the social infrastructure, push it all to breaking point to prove the "old ways" don't work and have to be replaced. Within a generation its coming to become a fiefdom where the political classes, wealthy, corporate act like lords and barons carving up cities, natural resources, and people (if they are still needed) so they can make money.

I love watching the us burn little by little. Each thread like this gives me joy.

I'll tell you whose fault it is, its the FUCKING BANKERS fault for pissing away the dollar. Easily done while you plebs argue over which president is at fault.

Both sides want prosperity but can's see the forest for the trees.

Central bankers are squarely to blame for a declining dollar, and everyone still needs a cup of coffee but its 3 bucks now instead of 1.50.

You can argue about borders all you like but when it comes to prosperity, "living wage" and 180 dollar sneakers, its misdirected anger to blame one president or another.

>i'd curb that attitude if you ever want this country to get better.

LMFAO! For eight years we were told by the left that if we disagreed with Obama's policies we were racist. Now we are told if we agree with President Trump's policies we are racist.
The left has started trying to silence the Right be it through violence (ANTIFA) or more "subtle" ways like banning Conservatives from FB and Twitter.
The left stand by a woman who accused a SCOTUS nominee of sexual assault, even though she could not say where it happened, when it happened, who was there or even if it was the right guy. They said we should believe her because where there is smoke there is fire. Let's not forget they also embrace Biden.

>and if you think republicans give people more access and equity than dems you're a white man who only cares about other white men

Lowest unemployment rates for blacks ever under President Trump. LBJ passed his Great Society and said it would keep the N-words voting for the dems for the next 40 years. Every shit-hole city of any size, especially where there is a black majority, has been run by dems for decades.

>i am also a white man, before you get your panties in a twist and start getting racist on me.

I wouldn't call you racist - just ignorant of facts and history because you are too lazy to think beyond what CNN feeds you.

People like you will piss and moan about Fox News but you really should watch it. It is amazing the stuff which gets aired on it that you won't see on CNN, MSNBC, etc. I don't simply watch Fox and have disagreed with them often. But, we see time and time again that the left-wing media will skew a story in a way to fit their agenda - if they don't flat out ignore it for not fitting their agenda.

For example, where is all of the outrage at the latest school shooting? Most every other time the story out there is that it was a guy wearing a MAGA hat or that he once said MAGA twenty years ago....

That would be true if it weren't for people like President Trump showing us we can do better economically if we don't look to the government.

Of course, the left-wing media refuses to talk about how good the economy is unless it is to lie and say it is Obama's economy or say it is going to slow down, because, you know, it always slows down and then picks up, so, if they say it long enough, eventually they will be "correct" in predicting the economy is slowing down....

>Both sides want prosperity but can's see the forest for the trees.

Not really. The left wants whatever will give them power and money by making the middle class poor. Plus, they encourage behaviors which keep people grasping for government money.

The right wants money and power too, but they still hire people to work. Unless you scam the system, you will never make as much money on welfare / assistance as you will if you work.

according to what or who?

>unverified shit posts galore

According to the economic information which showed record unemployment, stagnant wages and record assistance applicants at the same time companies had record amounts of cash in reserve because they had no clue as to what Obama was going to do.

then start voting for democratic candidates that DO walk the walk you fucking retard. those people are the only options because of civilian inaction

use your fucking vote to make this place better and stop bitching like everyone else here who probably don't even know what a caucus is

>then start voting for democratic candidates that DO walk the walk

You might as well have said to start voting for the Easter Bunny because they don't exist. Worse, even if they did, by putting them in power it means they'll vote for the Reid's and Pelosi's, or, as in my case being from Illinois, Madigan.
In other words, it isn't worth the risk.

>use your fucking vote to make this place better

I do. I NEVER have voted for a dem and NEVER WILL vote for a dem.

Again, I'm from Illinois. Just try to blame how much of a shit-hole this state is on a Republican.

None of them walk the walk though, that's the fucking problem. They love letting in illegals left and right but never in their own neighborhoods or homes, for example. These people are so fucking racist it's not even funny.

Walmart isn't welfare or assistance, its a job. So is Starbucks, not a great job mind you but Walmart does employ seniors and youth alike.

If you work 40 hours a week and still can't afford to pay rent and eat, the system is broken.

Central bankers printing money dilutes the dollar. You'll need more worthless dollars to buy a cup of coffee. Obama or Trump has nothing to do with it.

at this point this post has become stale pasta

Why do those people deserve more money? Every single job, outside of maybe store manager, is a job that a literal retard could do. Anyone working there doesn't deserve a fucking penny over minimum wage unless they get promoted. This idea that you are literally going to try to force PRIVATE companies to pay more money and they're just going to go alone with it is laughable.

Why are they for illegal immigration now then?

Spread more fake news you mindless npc

because they are parroting things they dont really understand

Attached: 1416276180001.jpg (467x500, 63K)

You fucking inbred moron. OP spreads fake news. You ignore it. I do the same as answer to him, you complain about fake news. kys hypocrite.

Keep telling yourself that its the right that spread fake news....

But they have

Well atleast she is smart enough not to vote dem

>If you work 40 hours a week and still can't afford to pay rent and eat, the system is broken.

No, it means you either have your sights set to high of what you can afford or you need to work more / spend less.

>You'll need more worthless dollars to buy a cup of coffee.

You sound quite bi-polar here. On one hand you bitch about people working 40 hours/week and not being able to afford things, and here you are admitting that it is people's bad spending that is causing the problem.

They deserve the money the company is willing to pay them. And when you have someone in the WH like President Trump and the economy is good, it means people can leave and go elsewhere because companies are hiring.

I work for a large company and rely a lot on manual labor. We've got huge turn-over. A lot has to do with the mentality of the workers, but we've also lost a lot due to there being more opportunities for low skilled workers.

That is the basic intelligence all people need.

>These people are so fucking racist it's not even funny.

As I said before, LBJ passed the Great Society because he knew it would "keep the 'N-word's' voting for dems for the next 40 years."

Better question: why are middle aged right wingers so obssessed with AOC?

1. Exaggerate your opponent's position to an absurd conclusion
2. Pretend that your own fantasy is now the real issue
3. ???
4. Profit.

Attached: 8attxr8gfr711.jpg (1080x1921, 167K)

I like how her bf is some bearded ginger white dude lmao

>muh Fourth Reich

and a fucking faggot on top of it

Who needs to take them into their homes retard? They can get jobs and move into their own places, they are no different than you or me, God knows they might even be more successful, and that scares the shit out of your lazy ass..

Nobody wants "open borders", this retardation of pushing fear using Ocasios image is just outright idiotic...

Liberals need to take them into their fucking homes because they want those spics to flood into this country. We have niggers and spics on fucking welfare and you want to bring in MORE poor people? So if you want them here so bad, take them into your home. Walk the walk for once.

The better question is, why do both parties do so little about illegal immigration? After all, this is an easy problem to solve.

The Dems permit it because they know the illegals will vote for them. Though illegal immigration suppresses wages and therefore quality of life and opportunities for their core constituents (especially the poor, especially blacks) the Dems don’t give a shit. They’re more than happy to trade the misery of their voting base for a better chance to hold power.

The Reps permit it because illegal immigration suppresses wages, which increases corporate profitability. It’s good for the rich. So they’re willing to trade more $$$ today for less political power tomorrow, thereby short-changing their voting base.

Both parties permit illegal immigration because it makes them richer and/or more powerful. That it’s bad for 90% of US citizens is something they couldn’t care less about.