Lying in bed just now fucking around my phone when it hit me we're all going to die somehow and there's nothing wee can do about it and everybody is just fine with this what the fuck??? What the fuck do I now Yea Forumsros should I get a religon which one is the right one?? is 23 too young to create a will I don't want my faggot brother to get NAY of my stuff HELP WE ARE ALL TRULY FUCKED WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
Lying in bed just now fucking around my phone when it hit me we're all going to die somehow and there's nothing wee can...
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just accept death for what it is Yea Forumsro
HOW camn you be so complacent knowing that at any fucking second you could be erased
Take psychedelics an you will see death really isnt all that bad when everything burns into your head from the start
now this is the story all about how my life got twisted upside down and Id like to take a minute and sit right there and tell you how i became the fresh prince of bel air
not him but what difference does it make?
just do what you enjoy doing and have fun. dont waste your life doin shit you dont want to do.
>and everybody is just fine with this what the fuck?
We've accepted the things we cannot change because worrying about them will only ruin the life we are so keen on preserving. Do you fear death because you're worried about not being able to do THIS anymore?
how can you realize this and be so calm please help i've never felt this way before
Its what makes life fun
If you express negative emotions you only ruin it for other people around you if there is any
well heres a list of religions to choose from
Thank god, I can't wait for that day.
well which one is the best, i don't want to turn into worms or get grilled in the afterlife
Well, it's not so much "easy" as it is inevitable. First you need to accept that it's completely out of your control. Second you decide what to do with the fact that it's completely out of your control. Third you have the revelation that it's your choice whether to panic or not about this. Eventually panicking gets tiresome and you choose to simply get on with your life.
>global warming
kek
knowing you're going to die one day (whether it's 5min from now or 50 years from now) is what makes life worth living.
without an unknown time limit on your lifespan there's no real motivation to do shit like tell someone you love them, make time for friends or have unique experiences that you'll never have again.
Turning to a religion isn't going to solve anything, they'll just tell you that some mystical ghost man is watching over you 24/7 and that when you die you'll have some sort of afterlife. nearly all religions carry the same message with the only differences really being their rules and customs.
Sounds like you're having your first existential crisis. Dont overthink shit. Drink a glass of whisky or smoke a joint, watch something funny on youtube for half an hour and pass out. If you find yourself lying awake in bed still thinking about this shit then put on a hypnosis/relaxation/meditation/ASMR recording on to keep you from thinking about this shit and to put you to sleep. There's hundreds of them on youtube.
Not actually true, there's plenty we can do about it. Life extension is a thing, sure it's in infancy but any treatment that replaces failed due to damaged organs can replace failed due to age organs, and if your brain is fine you can keep being swapped out (possibly with cybernetics even).
have faith that whatever made a universe so full of wonder and beauty, and made you a part of it..will take care of you..we all look into the great darkness and wonder what is on the other side..the simple answer is that no one really knows, but i believe that it will be ok..
Yay for overpopulation and a senseless urgency to stick around after your party should be long over.
I'd clap but I'm not american.
But why is death so instant, so clear
If you have assets, you should always have a will. Also don't worry about the dying crap. I don't like the idea I will blink out of existence... but I won't realise it has happened, so it doesn't matter.
>whatever made a universe
>made
Sure, we can all extend our lives in lots of ways. Life expectancy during the Roman Empire was like 25 but even the ones that lived beyond 100 have now been dead for 2000 years. We're still all gonna die eventually, many of us very soon.
Christianity stems from Judaism. Judaism has prophecies that literally came true through Christianity. The God of the Bible actually tells you to put Him in remembrance of things He tells people. That makes me think Christianity is likely the right way to go.
>Implying robotic bodies have to breathe air and can't just live on Mars or other planets
>what is Aten
>implying living on mars makes any difference whatsoever
Who says we can't attain near infinite lifespans using cybernetics?
For overpopulation it sure does make a difference, don't need to eat or breathe air? Population limits become a lot more relaxed.
>what is Aten
The Hebrew God humiliated Aten / Ra with the plague of darkness. If Ra had power, the little fake faggot would have stopped Moses from making it dark on the triangle loving people.
I don't want to die vs. the amount of instant ways you can die
Yep, sure as fuck want more mouthbreathers around me who have absolutely no purpose besides shitposting irl.
Grandiose idea for the sake of not having to deal with reality.
And yet these people copypasted monetheism as if it made sense.
What choice do you have in the matter?
There's only 2 options: Either you'll keep on living, in which case you didn't need to worry in the first place... Or you'll die, and there's nothing you can do about it anyway so worrying is useless. So why worry?
but are you okay with the second option
I confus. Why would a situation where a universe made by one deity be weird and multiple deities be right?
>made
Care to explain your views? I'll listen.
garooo.
No.
You subscribed to one of 3 contemporary models of the universe without explaining yourself either.
Dude, I'm not trying to be a dick. Explain to me what you're talking about. Seriously.
You used the word made as in the universe was created by someone or something.
Looking at it like this makes it look like a thing ofcourse, an artifact, something made that must have a beginning and an end.
Not every culture on earth thinks like this and there you already see that this is just "a think".
There is also the viewpoint that it "grew" as opposed to "being made" and is therefore not an artifact like pottery, but an organism.
For many it's probably deep seated believe that this thing had to be made somehow by someone or something because they look at themselfes as "made".
Kids ask "how have I been made", as if they have been put together by someone.
at any second any one of us could die for any reaoson
Well, without proof one way or another, who is to say who is right? I don't see why anyone should have a falling out over it or go Jihad or something. Some people believe a deity made the universe. It's possible. People can make little artificial universes by making computer programs, or structuring things that already exit into other things, so if it can happen within the bounds of a universe, why can't it happen in the past? Didn't Pascal say that it is easier to believe something can happen twice than for it to happen for the very first time. Using the law of cause and effect, if you are experiencing a 3 dimensional physical universe with scientific and biological laws, well, if that's the effect, what's the cause? If you wanted to physically make a universe with space, time and matter, how would you do it? If you wanted to make matter with the property of having gravity, how would that go? If you wanted biological laws that dictates something like DNA would have the necessary information for cell operations, how would that law in the universe be placed? How would you adjust the speed of light if it was too fast or too slow for this new universe? What if you wanted to add another color to the spectrum that no one every knew existed before?
It's just a concept which I believe in, but if the effect is this complex set of things, then there is a cause. I only believe there is a God because one of the many gods that people have worshiped throughout the years made promises that came true 100% of the time, made prophecies and made a public claim that He is God.
If you don't agree, okay, but I don't know how splitting hairs is going to help OP.
Is that not a great thing?
If only people could remember that.
No I agree there is no need to fight anything.
None of this can be proven as true because what we are talking about are perspectives.
Language is the enemy of the man who wields it wrongly, like a weapon. It will eventually turn against him all even himself.
To me it is absolutely irrelevant what it is, where it came from and where it is going. Whether it was made or grew of itself.
The most disgusting thing to me is when people believe that they must have a reason for everything, because in most cases they do not have one.
But people are masters in con artistry, they will make up a billion things just to forget about it all a little later.
What I wish to say is that "believing" can very well keep you from exploring what is truly there for you. And beyond any of these words is a world where there is certainly no death to be found.
The reason you are terrified of this thing is the reason you don't have to be.
Terrified of what?
Also this is just anecdotal, but I'm just some user on the net, but I do explore a lot of crap even though I have faith in a few things. As rough as Yea Forums is, that's one of the reasons why I am here, because this place is like a big old tavern to me and I like to hear other people's opinions and explore stuff.
>implying there's nothing we can do about dying.
Do you even science?
Life extension technology is already in the works. Whether through medicine/chemistry or cryotech, humans are going to start living a lot longer within our life times, or at very least, frozen and revived later.
Aging is a disease and should be treated as such. With enough research, you can cure diseases.
I'm not afraid of death, I'm afraid of not getting to do/experience everything I want before death.
With enough research, we can live for much longer periods of time. Don't fret user. Get a degree in biochemistry and have your name etched among the greatest humans who ever lived.
Yes same here.
I say terrified in reference to OP who seems to be terrified of the realization that he as he knows himself is not permanent.
That too can be opposed with the question of "do you wish to be permanent". He might answer yes now but 60 years down the line his answer might change along with his perspective on life and himself.
What about permanent impermanence?
What about people in general believing beyond exploration that they are something seperate from their environment in which they came about?
The thought that every incarnation is the incarnation of the one and only spirit that there ever was?
That you as your personality is a residue of experiences that are already borderline dead, merely animated by an observing spirit that lives the same in everything existing in the universe?
The surest cure for an untimely death is living on time, all the time.
And thus living, there can be no question of who, when, where and how. It's you.
People are riding a dragon towards the end of time where this dragon will swallow them.
It's the mind without a master that will enslave an impoverished soul yearning for a life it would not dare to live.
>I say terrified in reference to OP who seems to be terrified of the realization that he as he knows himself is not permanent.
Ah, I see. All right then, m8.
About your other stuff, you raise a lot of interesting questions I have never heard before, but worth pondering.
However...
>That you as your personality is a residue of experiences that are already borderline dead, merely animated by an observing spirit that lives the same in everything existing in the universe?
This makes me wonder, if we are spirits living inside corporeal bodies, and the possibilities those spirits are eternal, do they exist on another plane of existence? Is that existence in a way the same existence that maybe have a clue as to where this universe came from? It's a thought.
>The surest cure for an untimely death is living on time, all the time.- And all the other stuff
You sound like a samurai in a way. I like that.
There is that thing in Christianity about how Jesus made it that death has no sting, which is a concept that death indeed has a sting, but I don't know where to go with that yet. I think I have a lot to learn and ponder.
I have eaten hella mushrooms. Thank you sir but at any fucking second death can by at our neck
>if we are spirits living inside corporeal bodies
Aswell as outside. It's an organism-environment relationship.
No roof without foundation.
But we are not used to see it this way, so I understand possible contest. That we are not this spirit anymore than it is us.
There is no I that is seperate. Nothing that belongs to us without not belonging to us.
I often make the case with peoples breath. When made aware people say "I am breathing". But when they are not aware there is no "I" that breathes, it breathes and it happens of itself.
So is it a doing or a happening?
And by that nature, are you yourself a happening or a doing? Are you doing yourself? Can you undo yourself?
The bible is a book about a certain possibility that a man can have.
As it was said about "renewing ones mind", it is a book about change.
Not a change of habit, but about the habit of change. It is aimed towards helping a man releasing himself from his own chains of self restriction, of a resistance to inevitable change.
Thereby by extension also removing the sting of death as it is not resisted, but assisted. (this does not mean suicide)
You say a lot worth pondering. Thank you.
The doing and happening thing though reminds me of something someone taught me in the last few weeks, the difference between joy, or Biblical joy, and happiness.
Chicks and a lot of people chase happiness, and I guess the origin of the word is hap, from northern Europe someone. (They told me where, but I forget.) Anyhow "hap" is a condition in which something happens to you, and you react. Joy is something that's internal, something that comes out of you. Biblical joy has that facet.
Again, you've said a lot, and thank you for getting past the typical Yea Forums bitchiness and trolling to talk to me.
Well thank you for being with me then, I enjoyed that.
I tend to get used to having people shittalk all over what I say and I can't have not being the most efficient smacktalking bitch around these parts.
Most of my life consisted of pondering and experimenting.
I'll happily do that till I have to draw a line.
Congrats, you've just realized how precious being alive is.
You only get to live this specific life once, so you might as well make an effort to be the best version of yourself you can be and make sure to put in the effort needed to enjoy your brief stay here.
I see. All righty then, m8. Have a great day. Peace.
That religion chart lacks the intersectional religions.
What does intersectional mean? Sounds made up, like islam.
if i lived in america fuck yeah! i'd of certainly shot me some schools up by now
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It is made up, the short version of how it is used by its proponents comes down to something like this: "Everyone has advantages and disadvantages that intersect based on where, when and what they were born into. But instead of taking that to the logical conclusion that this makes everyone an individual, I'll use it as an argument for being prejudiced towards everyone and assigning oppressor and oppressed labels to anyone I see fit based on this prejudice. This makes me the good guy and grants me a permanent seat on the moral high ground".
Now depending on which flavor this religion comes in, it'll have original sin based on being white, male or heterosexual, it's just named privilege instead of sin.
Thanks for explaining that. The people who made that seems insufferable.
Yeah, they really are.
I'm really glad that I had a nervous breakdown that forced me to reexamine my beliefs and values, which enabled me to discard the beliefs and values that caused it in the first place.
It was odd being an atheist and realizing that I still had a religion that I needed leave though.
Wait, that sounds interesting. Care to elucidate?
Are you 12
I'm a former self hating male feminist, who'd un-ironically assert that socialism was only considered bad because nobody ever did it properly.
I also made a lot of assumptions of oppression in relation to race, which made feel shame for not being mixed enough to be seen as not white.
So basically everything wrong in the world was my fault according to me, which came with an added obligation of perpetual shame and the responsibility to fix everything unless I wanted to be a failure.
This mindset oddly enough proved itself to be detrimental for my wellbeing, which combined with my undiagnosed(at the time) ADD caused my breakdown.
After that it was a job of separating the actual good values that attracted me to the ideology in the first place, from the bad ideas and practices that the ideology really consisted of.
Having people talk a bunch about solidarity and then only contacting me about membership fees after I fell ill, sort of pushed me along as well.
seriously what are we gonna do
Dude, you made a hero's journey of self discovery in a way.
What beliefs and religion are you sporting now?
You won't know you're dead, stupid.
you're fucked too man
Well I still think of myself as an antiauthoritarian lefty anarchist and religion wise I'd call myself an agnostic atheist.
So I basically try to live my life from the notion of being free to the point of not limiting the freedom of others and generally using the tit for tat model to interact with people.
The thing that surprised me the most, was that once I put aside my prejudices and started meeting people as individuals, I'd meet a lot less assholes than I used to.
>and started meeting people as individuals
I don't know much about the rest of that stuff, as I went the whole Jesus thing because my family were Dems who seriously tried to off me, but that's a damn good move, user.
Have a cat.
So what? Either accept or make yourself crazy. I fear death, everyone does even though some will say they don't. Accept your fear and move on. There is no alternative...
Well the "meeting people as individuals" thing relates more to meeting new people.
Once I stopped viewing some groups as inherently antagonistic and other groups as perpetual underdogs, my interactions with individuals of all groups improved.
>Well the "meeting people as individuals" thing relates more to meeting new people.
I follow ya. But sometimes you can be surprised. People change and grow and wilt all of the time. Sometimes people you thought you knew become more badass or let you down with time. I know it sounds trite, but once you learn stuff, you can look back at people and see them in a new light.
what are you going to do when you're staring doen a six foot hole
Oh I've noticed that, I just rarely feel left down, because I only expect of my friends, what they actually have the mental surplus to offer. Which tends to change from moment to moment, so instead of expecting things, I ask what they are willing to offer up.
Dude, I had people IRL try to gangstalk, gaslight and literally murder me. I've seen some shit. Only God got me out of it. Fuckers should have finished the job, but I still function.
Also my last ex-gf was a six foot deep hole. Now she's on deviantArt drawing fursonas, pron and writing on her facebook account how she's down with the sexual degeneracy industry. Not much surprises me.
Dude, righteous. [pic related]
enjoy your midlife crisis
so is this the right way to do
>Dude, righteous.
You just made me wonder whether the Bill and Ted movies are available on netflix by saying that.
It's been a while since I saw them last.
I think it's in the Old Testament, the last book which is really small, Malachi, where the God of the Jews / Christians actually tells people to prove Him on something. He does this from time to time. People ask rightly what god is legit. Well this one gets in your face and wants you to hold Him to what He says. You can't get that with teachers, politicians, most preachers, rabbis, clerics and stuff. I'd say that's pretty based.
Keanu never ages. He's hundreds of years old. Excellent!
so are you saying the watchers are proper?
Dude!
Azazel is the best.
thank you for wisdom and honesty Yea Forumsros i don't know what the fuck caused this
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What type of beta shit is that, why do you think your going to die? Personally I live my life as if I'm immortal, which I probably am. What proof is there that your going to die? Maybe your immortal like me?
I kind of hope that you are immortal, that would hopefully provide you with enough time to figure out the difference between your and you're.
So you're all just okay with this. Nobody cares huh?
go to a dungeon tranny
you're going intro the ground too
Well it's not like I'm fond of knowing I'll die at some point, but spending all of my time worrying about death would be a waste of the life I do have.
I am just saying man people are walking around RIGHT NOW and they don't care and in today's atmosphere you are probably not going to sleep in a gentle way
Is "going to sleep in a gentle way" your euphemism for a peaceful death in this context?
On todays political atmosphere, I think it is crucial to remember that we have survived moral panics in the past and that we'll probably survive this one as well.
>euphemism for a peaceful death in this context?
Yes. I hope so too.
I was there for my grandfathers death, held his hand while he died.
I dunno why, but him being awake and aware of my presence seemed to afford him the comfort he needed to die peacefully.
I mean a painless death during sleep sounds nice, but if I get the chance to die while awake and surrounded by loved ones, I'd rather do it that way.
Uh. Thanks. That sounds really nice.
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Death is in no way scary. I was dead for billions of years before I was born and didn't mind. If life went on forever it'd be worthless.
What if
You're already dead.
Fag.
If this is the afterlife, I wonder what the world I died in looks like.
try me bitch
Yeah... I know the feel user. There is nothing to be done. It comes for us all.
You can't do shit about it, so why care?
I don't care much for life anyways, if I die, I die, if not, well, I get to not die.
What really sucks is knowing dying is preventable. And the not to far off future will have cured aging and disease through gene therapy. So yeah we exist at a point In time where that's just out of reach. Microdosing hgh and stem cell Iv's already slow aging noticeably but are a few thousand a pop and is illegal in the states. Enjoy your pointless death.
What really really sucks is knowing the 1% is pouring billions into the research that will not be made for the public peasants. They're used for war and taxes kek.
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Your mirth gratifies me.