What do you think? Part 2

What do you think? Part 2

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It was probably fewer than 1 million.

It was exactly the number the laws currently mandate it to be. (Send help)

t. Eurofag

IT IS ILLEGAL FOR M TO SAY OTHER THEREFORE YES THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED AND YES AT LEAST SIX MILLION DIED PROBABLY DOUBLE!!!!!!!!

They lie about it already, should have been more anyway. Fucking Jews can burn.

I highly doubt it. I'm a person who believes in the law of innocent until proven guilty and frankly I've seen more evidence that goes against this claim rather than the evidence that supporta it. Lets keep a couple things in mind
>the west got most of its sources on this matter from the soviets
>the soviets (mostly stalin who at the time was the leader of the union) have a deep history of lying and censorship to their critics
>what would incentivize the victors to tell the truth about their defeted opponets?
>it's suspicious how in many western countries there are laws that criminalize any and all historical revision of this event. This is the only historical even that is illegal to question (very orwellian like)
>the data that was pulled after the war about how many jews existed in europe after the war didn't specify the ones that moved to the newly created israel which implied that those jews died

idk you tell me goy

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From the last thread:
>>What do you think?
>that the dixie faggot on /pol/ was right, you are a bunch of stormweenies in a discord that keep making those threads and while a bunch got you occupied in your thread on /pol/ for half a day, we had no stupid holocaust denial crap threads on Yea Forums at all
>coincident? i think not

>fuck off from our Yea Forums with your /polack/ shill crap on constant repeat

and

>FRIENDLY REMINDER:

>THOSE THREADS ARE MADE AND OCCUPIED BY A /POL/ DISCORD

>AT THE MOMENT THEY ARE FALSE FLAGGING AS COMMIES TO GET RID OF THE ACCUSATIONS IN

Does it matter, normalfags believe it did

The final solution to the Nazi problem will require at least six million dead Nazis and liberals. Fire up the ovens again, we've got some centrist pundits to upset.

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Six Million is an estimate. The fact that it's uncountable because of how many people went missing in secret makes the how less than the why.

There is literally no citation for this claim, in your pic. But you must think "OH WOW! WHAT AN AMAZING COINCIDENCE!"

If they're false flagging as commies, then they're stupid enough to create their own fucking opposition out of whole cloth and we should let them continue about their business. Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake.

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>The final solution to the Nazi problem will require at least six million dead liberals
I'd be careful, those guys are the ones that fund your little antifa circlejerks. Best not to bite the invisible hand that feeds.

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My God I WISH I was in the pocket of George Soros, then I might be able to buy a decent car. Nope, I'm just a commie doing the right thing for its own sake. Libs and their Nazi pets are both doomed.

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You have no idea what false flagging is, do you? It is ment to discredit the side they are false flagging as and with that having justified the existance of their true side.

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Then show the law with that exact number.

Fucking skinhead of course this shit happened. Denying the holocaust happened is basically denying hitlers achievements.

If the truth is disseminated for dumb reasons, it will still be the truth and will still have an effect. Moreover, are you sure they're all false flagging? Maybe some of them have really come over from the dark side. Anyone drawn to fascism by the horrors of late capitalism are not going to be tempted away by bourgeois liberal bullshit, but Marxism-Leninism speaks to their real needs far better than fascism ever could. So the more they ape Soviet propaganda, the more commies they create, and the more that leads to their own downfall.

Has it not occurred to you that fascism is more rife with contradictions and therefore far more unstable than either liberalism or socialism? Has it also not occurred to you that every time a fascist regime has fallen, socialists and communists have been integral to its fall? Therefore, it's logical to conclude that the fash are terrible strategists, their strategies inevitably amount to shooting themselves in the nuts, and they will inevitably be crushed by commies. If they're helping me create more, that only helps.

Not that you can do shit about it either but whine like a liberal while I make a better world, but it'd be nice if you'd support the troops instead of bitching at us.

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>and then one day, for no reason at all everybody elected hitler

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I think that OP is trolling for trumptards.

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Are you upset? You can talk to me, user

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>muh George Soros
How about all of news and social media? All of antifa city chapter twitters are alive and kicking, just like those blue check mark journos and celebs who tweet "i hate white people" and face zero repercussions? Same shit goes for facebook too. How about CNN when Chris Cuomo says "not all punches are equal" when defending you guys? How about CBS with that assault propaganda against Richard Spencer via the good fight? You people entirely have the establishment behind you, and you're still losing power.

You think you're gonna somehow usurp power over wealthy jews once the evil nazis are taken care of? Keep dreaming.

What are even raving on about? This is like a chaf in post form. I became more solidified in my opinion through your attmept.

Hell no I ain't upset. Fucking pissed that people deny hitlers greatest achievement. Yeah. 6 Million wasn't enough, but it's a start.

It's a cycle of history. As liberal capitalism degenerates it becomes fascism, but fascism is an unstable omnishambles that inevitably falls before socialism. Every cycle, as the means of production get more advanced, the socialist end of the cycle gets stronger, until one day socialism will prevail forever.

I intend for that day to be today.

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>until one day socialism will prevail forever
it couldn't last a century, after winning a world war, with the help of CAPITALISTS

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This

Yeah that seems like quite a paradox. Why wouldn't the nazis want to take credit for that?

If you're so mad about wealthy Jews, why don't you Richard Spencer cockgobblers go protest in front of a Zionist embassy instead of being all "muh Confederacy" in the neighborhoods of the American workers you claim to represent yet get continually driven out of?

If you think Zuck's on our side, you clearly haven't been paying attention. He bans us for nothing and only bans your most prominent supporters when his white power accessorizing makes the Guardian again. He will be shot like a Nazi with the rest of you.

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You're too utopian to understand the truth, but the lurkers aren't.

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Historical studies shown the real number is 876457 jews killed by nazis during ww2. 4567 gay people. 54379 Gipsy. 234500 politics opponents. 567 journalists. 78 teachers. 127 scientists.

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>why don't you Richard Spencer cockgobblers go protest in front of a Zionist embassy
You mean like this? youtube.com/watch?v=8ARNlenMrLc
And oh look, antifa show up, not to join the alt-right in their anti-zionist war protest or anything, but to shut them up! I didn't know antifa were neo-cons. lol
>instead of being all "muh Confederacy" in the neighborhoods of the American workers you claim to represent yet get continually driven out of?
Name one example.
>inb4 charlottesville

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Ah yes "historical" studies.

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Okay. Source?

Hmm, it seems every place communism is tried has the same reasonings for failing. Really makes me think.

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Maybe the liberals showed up, but the anarkiddos run point on Antifa and we commies let them because we've got better things to do; we just show up to help when we agree. The anarkiddos don't have anything better to do, so they can brainstorm better ways to punch you. If they didn't punch you, it'd just be a Starbucks window, so at least this has some kind of social use.

Well, you didn't even bother showing up in Whitefish, when this shit was new. But Antifa did. And funny you have to rule out Cville, because we crushed you there twice and all the cop help in the world couldn't stop it. Hell, throw the cops in and the casualty list on your side is twice ours.

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its funny because gabes owner is a deformed manlet commie

Capitalist encirclement? The one country whose pending socialist revolution the CIA can't overthrow will be America's. After it happens here, capitalism's cancelled forever.

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I am not allowed to comment that.

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>but the anarkiddos
You are the anarkiddo, guy.
>no I'm a tankie
even larpier.

>all the cop help in the world couldn't stop it.
The cops were on your side dummy. The mayor declared a state of emergency and told the police to stand down as they pushed the alt-right into antifa.

Liberals love you people. You do all the dirty work like the poorfags you are.

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>single-handedly
pic relaed
>Capitalist encirclement?
If by that you mean they stopped bailing you out, then yea.

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Anecdotally, I went in search of some logistics train information while studying abroad in central Europe. Real, genuine documents exist tracking information about the Holocaust, information that is too detailed and yet so casually tucked away like old marriage licenses that its sheer esoteric nature proved to me that it cannot be propaganda - it truly must be the real thing. No conspiracy, no matter how deep, would address such a commonplace issue as guest books in rest stops that once-occupied the side of so many Nazi era train routes. To use the bathroom, even just passing through, Nazi workers had to sign in and those books were transported then kept by the equivalent of county courthouses near the border of Germany and Poland. It's vital to remember just how casually so much of this was done. It was a real, historical event and not a story. With real, lazy people. With small bladders.

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>hurr why dey gas jews when so bad next to other methods
Dehumanizing the killing process. Nazi soldiers were executing their jewish prisoners with either Carbon Dioxide or bullets. The carbon dioxide didn't kill enough people fast enough, so you had to sit in a truck and listen to people wailing and screaming for an hour and sometimes they wouldn't even die. Shooting them gave the soldiers responsible for Jewish execution PTSD. It was decided that dehumanizing the killing as much as possible was imperative to both speeding up the process and protecting the killers from their actions.

>when you have no argument, only a larp

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And small penises.

I appreciate your effortpost, comrade, but it's wasted on the fash. They're just here to blather propaganda, and the only way to fight them in these material conditions is louder counter-programming.

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I'm putting in the same amount of effort as the Nazis and the liberals. At least, unlike them, I'm correct.

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>gomrade
The larp is complete

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Of course the six million died. How can you forget about the six billion? The six trillion should never be forgotten. Wait until the six gorrillian hear about this.

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Please describe to me where you and liberals disagree on social issues?

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Well, for starters...

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To continue...

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So many liberals are as far up their own ass about identity politics as pic related that they won't even punch Nazis, and yet we do...

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Libs also aren't above antisemitism if it helps them, but we are...

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As expected of literal shakers.

Libs love J.K. Rowling, we'd throw her and her bougie followers in the nearest gulag...

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Libs value free speech more than the lives of workers, we don't...

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Libs conduct an aerial holocaust of Best Korea and slander it to this day; we don't...

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Libs think John McCain was a war hero, we think he murdered innocent Vietnamese kids...

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Libs' favorite sport is talking to the manager; commies' favorite sport is organizing against the manager...

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Libs don't mind if poor people starve; we do...

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Anyone who denies the holocaust is dumb. Thousands of eyewitness reports for high ranking officials of numerous countries. Thousands of non Jewish people aren't hiding it either and if you think so you're mentally ill. Now call me a Jew, shill, JIDF, schlomo, like, etc..m because you're too dumb to come up with an arguement. And no, unsourced memes or memes from nazi propoganda sites don't count as evidence. Imagine your ideology being supported purely by memes.

Libs brought you shit like this; we bring you an anti-pomo left...

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>Libs also aren't above antisemitism if it helps them, but we are...
DING DING DING DING DING
So now I know why you're supposedly against liberals and nazis. It's because you're a kike.

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Libs believe in colonizing the Third World, we believe in liberating the Third World...

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No, it's because I support the unity of the working classes of all nations against the bourgeoisie of all nations. Jewish and gentile workers are my comrades; Jewish and gentile bougies are my enemies.

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Millions starved under your ideology, take your self righteous bullshit off of here and go back to plebbit

But yeah, other than all that, libs and commies are totes the same. Well argued, fash.

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Robert Conquest was a self-interested liar and you are his corpse's deluded muppet.

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Well yes, well argued, because when you're a trust fund baby or a Jew like your two godfathers of the manifesto were, you can afford to not be a liberal, but a trotskyite larper instead!

Well played, you are as cringy and delusional as an an-cap.

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Look, I get you're mad at being wrong about everything like the fash always is, but there's still a line. Daddy put an icepick in Trotsky's deluded liberal head for a reason.

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>Claiming moral superiority
>Thinks millions being wrongly murdered in gulag is acceptable
Albert Einstein's political opinions mean nothing.

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The Holocaust is

FAKE NEWS!!!!!

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You can whine about it all the way to the camps. What matters in this world is power, and liberals have none.

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>Cowards who have to use weapons to fight.
>Cowards who have to jump because they're scrawny pussies
>Cowards who hide in their basements but feel strong as a group
>Cowards that have to hide their weak jawline because they're ashamed of their weak ideology

Keep telling yourself that faggot

No, but the Holodomor sure is.

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>trotsky
>liberal
Nigga, cmon.

nobody starved to death in the urss too

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Cry harder about your capitalist weaknesses, it makes my penis harder.

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>Everyone I dunt like iz hitlur!
Isn't it past your bedtime kid?

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Read history fgt. Trotsky's political base was the artists and writers and the whole of the liberal petty bourgeoisie that had supported the revolution for five minutes and then whined about actually giving power to the working class for the next two decades. Trotsky was a lib in red clothing, and he died like one.

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It's not. You're really fat and gay and it's because America is capitalist

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Ur pp small

So what you're saying is there is a fine line between being a liberal and being a commie/marxist? Thank you for proving my point, guy.

No, what I'm saying is that the petty bourgeoisie, the class out of which both fascism and social democracy arise, is only in it for themselves. Trotsky represented this class of inveterate liars and the real commies put him down like the dog he was.

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FAKE NEWS !

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To elaborate on the correspondence between ideologies and classes, for all the lurkers out there who aren't retarded:

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Even though all first hand accounts are absolute nonsense it was at least 6 billion jews

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>the petty bourgeoisie, the class out of which both fascism and social democracy arise
Yea, it totally isn't capitalism that is willing to crushing any fascist voice out there, sure.
You're straight up delusional, I'll give you one last chance to answer honestly. Which one are you, the trust fund baby, or the jew?

This! White people are fucking disgusting.

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>(((class of inveterate liars)))
So Stalin was effectively anti-semitic. kek, proves this wrong

Fascism IS capitalism. How many gentile capitalists did Hitler expropriate? Oh, none? I rest my case.

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Classes aren't racists, idiot.

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Yes. 6 million Jews and 11 million others like Gypsies, Romanis, Russians, homosexuals, disableds, etc.

Capitalism and Communism are both Jewish inventions. National Socialism is the white man's truth.

My God, stop lying. Shit like this is why you aren't safe in public.

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>Fascism IS capitalism.
Today I learned putting the nation before GDP is still capitalism. Thanks tankie.

Thank you for posting this. They (holocaust revisionists) knew from the beginning that the whole revisionist story is bullshit, but as they are set for hate, they see this as an opportunity (and therefore facts don't count).

Capitalist relations existed under Hitler, Mussolini, Franco... shall I go on? You have no argument here, capitalist. You're the slave of the libs you pretend to own.

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ez dubs

Yeah, no problem. Effortposting is wasted on the fash; we need to be able to debunk them as quickly as they shit their spurious claims out.

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>Shapiro (1992, 116) shows that Jews are overrepresented by at least a factor of nine on indexes of wealth. While constituting approximately 2.4 percent of the population of the United States, Jews represented half of the top one hundred Wall Street executives and about 40 percent of admissions to Ivy League colleges. Lipset and Raab (1995) note that jews contribute between one-quarter and one-third of all political contributions in the US, including one-half of Democratic Party contributions and one-fourth of Republican contributions. Salter notes that AIPAC ranked second out of the top 120 most powerful lobbies as rated by members of congress and professional lobbyists, with no other ethnic organization rated in the top 25. - Kevin MacDonald CofC pages 304, 305

You sure about that guy?

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Medieval anti-usury norms among Christians encouraged many Jewish people to become bougies. But many are fellow workers and I'll defend them against you to the death. You wanna kill George Soros or a Rothschild tho, be my guest.

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>But many are fellow workers and I'll defend them against you to the death.
Funny, they wouldn't return the favor, unless you're Jewish of course. That just makes you a cuck, lol.

>Capitalist relations existed under Hitler, Mussolini, Franco
I can say the same about Lenin, Zinoviev, trotsky. It's about race and heritage you dummy.

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>But many are fellow workers
85% of jews in the US support AIPAC and Israel, and a third of that 85% think we should be giving them more money. They wouldn't side with you even if you paid them in shekels, or maybe they would idk, but that would just make you a capitalist.

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More American Natives died. Why u Americans not start focusing on that issue??

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You can't say the same about Stalin though, or about the regimes he founded. It's about class, you simple-headed fool.

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We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

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Alot of conflicting info with way lower numbers exists. Theres really no way to tell the truth. Offical nazi memos and diaries etc state its closer to 2-3 million. But does it really matter?

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>It's about class, you simple-headed fool.
Yea, and that's why his regime ultimately failed and liberalism won. He betrayed the one people keeping his system afloat, the jewish capitalist "class."

it is interesting that you will literally be locked away in jail for questioning that number in some places
europe is so sad
lmao

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As much as flammable a jew is, no the holocaust did not happen.

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you have to be really stupid to care about numbers when a genocide this huge is the topic. does it matter? 1 or 6 million, it makes no difference dude. this is like religious-kind-of stupid.

You call China a failure? Its now surpassing as to be the number one economy in the world.

>You call China a failure?
China abandoned communism a long time ago nigga, even Zizek would stay China became a success due to it's economic liberalization.

>Medieval anti-usury norms among Christians encouraged many Jewish people to become bougies.
How the fuck does this make sense?

Weird when you bring up basic logic like this on fb, etc silic9n valley you yet banned

Newfag much. Holocaust thread existed before diacord. Why are people so scared of people they essentially call flat earthers?

No, around 17 million died. 6 million jews, but jews weren't the only one persecuted.

>you yet banned
Not just from social media, but from european countries too. You can even face jail time in the UK, not sure about other countries.

Right totally not because Jews set themselves up in media, bakning, etc thing they can uses against people. Funny only Jews can honor their terrorists without backlash.

You're edgyHow do you not know that gov't interference is cancer? Look at colleges (added funding for the poor adds cost for tuition) , health care(free money drives the cost for the poor up) , social security, (obviously working) the FBI (Mueller report huge amounts of corruption from within)... anything the gov touches it's corrupt.

Six million jews is obviously unlikely, given that there werent than many in germany and poland at the time.

Little known fact - six million jews is a cultural term. It doesnt mean what it sounds like, 6.000.000 individial jews. It wasnt originally intended to be thought of as a number.
Its similar to the old chinese term "the 10.000 things", meaning everything that exists in the world.

Six million in this context just means a very large number of jews died.

But as it stands, its very hard to explain this and still keep the discussion on point. Does it really matter if 6.000.000 jews died or if the nazis just killed every jew they could lay their hands on?

Six million FRIED.

Hey guy, I used to be a borderline an-cap, but then I realized I was as utopia-seeking as the delusioned tankie in this thread. Believe me, it's not government itself, it's how its ran, and who's running it. You may not fully understand or want to accept it now, but the an-cap utopia requires all players around the world to participate, or any coherent nation can just point a gun or missile at you and not give a fuck about the NAP. Governments must exist in order to protect a people with a common goal, and trust me, there's plenty of people out there who are like you with common goals.

Kikes get power and niggerkike their way in. Personally I just want to mind my own business, but i have to worry about niggers stealing my shit and Jews promoting them to.