Fuck college. I'm gonna learn a trade. Which trade is the "easiest"? I don't want to cut my finger off

Any time someone said I was too pussy for something they were wrong

Fuck spackling, it's never good enough for anybody. But painting ... good painters charge a fortune.

Plumbing is easy. Welding is good if you have the skill for it,but not "easy". If you like breathing in fiberglass, then insulator isn't bad. I'm a plumber and it's hard to even work around the insulators

Depends where you live honestly. Welders make a killing some places (while killing themselves tbh). Some places electricians make a ton,roofers do pretty well etc.

Then kill yourself, pussy

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drywallers get paid even more and in higher demand. painters union are fighting to get paid more because of them.

EMS. It actually helps if you generally don’t like people.
If you do, you won’t after not too long

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There are other trades than manual labor. Learn programming or transcription and work from home.

Train Crews.
For real, any job in rail, good pay, good hours and need man a lot o man.

Drywall
Commercial Audio Visual installation
Insulation

You know when they build new buildings? Yeah it's not just "general construction workers" putting it up. There's a fucking job for everything and construction pays $$$

then stop being such a fucking pussy and looking for the "easiest" trade because if that's your mindset going in I guarantee you will not make the cut, or if you do then you'll be the useless apprentice that is the butt of every joke

>trade
>easiest
youre doing it wrong

This

Garbage pay and a bad schedule. Why the fuck would anyone do EMS work.

>Go to school for two years
>Get paid $12 an hour

Nigga there are jobs that don't require anything that pay twice as much

I love all the tradefags in here acting like trade work is hard. Yeah some are physically really hard, but a lot of trades are dummy easy.

Marine engineering is definitely not the easiest, but the pay is great and long vacations at home.

This, provided your ok with electricity. Also fire inspector is bretty good all we do is check off boxes in lists.

>easiest
Don't worry about easiest to learn OP. Whatever trade you go into you'll have the basics figured out in less than a year. Then you'll spend the next decade gaining experience because you'll suck in your first year no matter what you might think. After a few years you may be working for yourself but still gaining experience because you still havent "seen it all" yet. Regardless of what trade you choose you'll still be scheduling, bidding, showing up on jobs, loading and unloading tools every day, working and then getting paid for it. Basically what I'm saying is that the skill-set that you learn is only half of any job. So don't worry about "easiest to learn" go into what pays the best because at the end of the day it's what determines whether it's all worth it or not.

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Lol, ok. Kid

>Which trade is the "easiest"?

It's almost like you can't commit to anything. Get into forestry, you will have a blast.

Im 31, electrician since 19. Bought a house in nyc where i live. I worked alot, weekdays weeknights and weekends. I was able to come up with $250,000 to invest in a 3family house.... i cleared 125,000 in the last 3 years... i work for the city of new york in a water treatment plant

Tldr im getting paid 57$ hour to post this advice. Learn a trade and ul never go wrong.

if you think theyre hard, you're probably a general labor faggot getting paid $15 an hour. Get a real trade job.

>want to be an electrician
>really suck at math
I was doomed from the start

join the military and be a personnelist. You get paid to have office parties, fuck peoples pay up, not get punished for it and make the same amount as everyone else.

>union
That depends on where you live, unions are almost nonexistent in some states. And I was talking about private industry/residential painters making good money. Union painter suck by comparison to those doing it for themselves in the private industry, that's why they can charge whatever they want as long as the wealthy customer is willing to pay for his reputation.

learn to code

And you are wrong. You think you're so smart right? I can see you insecurity showing. Eat a fat dick and die.

Prostitute

Spend a day being a tree surgeon that climbs with a rope and harness. It's not top and lop like people think, the guys I work with all have degrees. There is more to this game than meets the eye.

Fuel Truck Driver

65-75k net first year. Long hours some days but great pay and bens.

I have mad respect for truck drivers. I have no idea how you manage to drive in cities, but you do and that's pretty awesome.

>Also fuck cyclists and their self righteous peddling
>Even as a motorist I hate them.

I’m a plumber, it’s really fun and easy in terms of maths and shit. It’s pretty fucking hard physically though for the first 2 years of my apprenticeship all I basically did was dig holes and it did fuck my back up.

Also don’t know if you’re from Australia like me but if you go to TAFE or a trade school it’s basically the exact same sort of setting and feel as high school so that was pretty cool

I'm the useless apprentice that's the butt of every joke :c

24 hour plumbers earn a fuckign mint.....no one told me that at school

Agreed. My Uncle drove a 53' footer frequently into Manhattan. He made mad money. Granted, when he got home every night he drank a lot, the stress of that was a beast.

I've come to the conclusion that I'd probably have been better off going for a trade but I'm too deep in college now. Lost the will to put up with the math a ways into a physics degree, now just feeling drained working on engineering.

I won't argue that. People want to look down on tradesmen. People need tradesmen without all of us people wouldn't have shit cause they, are to stupid to do it themselves and save all that money. So, who are the stupid ones, now, eh?

I wouldn't recommend that to anyone, terrible pay and high stress.

Thank you brother. Been driving total for close to 3 years now. Started in sub 26k, got my CDL and started with a small outfit locally. Some work is tough from time to time. The driving isn't bad where I live. I do a bit of city driving with bob tails in alleys, and now filling trains in a switch yard. Sometimes your working like mad, others your sitting for hours but still being paid.

In all trucking you have to have your whits about you, and keep a cool calm head at all times. After all fuel goes boom.

I pay cunts to do things for me because i find it boring.

>Trading labor for money.
>Not a trade.

>I pay cunts to do things for me because I'm stupid, fat, and lazy.
Fixed it for you user.

lmao spend a day diagnosing and fixing cars cunt, you don't know shit tree boy

Ha ha ! This

By your incorrect definition every single paying job is "a trade", and it's not. So you're objectively wrong and also an insufferable faget because you know you're wrong.
>trade
>/trād/
>noun
>a skilled job, typically one requiring manual skills and special training.
Notice the words NOUN and TRAINING

i am a faggot NEET. ask me anything.

Welding is the way to go. Get trained, then try to get certified for military work. If you can get on at a naval base, you will be making surprisingly good money doing enjoyable and decently safe work.

Conductor here. Hours are beyond fucked but I make 100k a year. Easiest fucking job ever. I spend most of my time telling managers that make half what I do to fuck off

>Implying literally every job doesn't require manual skills or special training.
Unless you're a robot I don't think you'll be cooking burgers without training, hence it's a trade by your own definition.

Congrats, you played yourself.

How did you get into that trade?

Fucking yikes, I tried to drive in NYC as a tourist and nah. I'll never do that again. Imagine back in the day trying to drive a 2 stroke diesel with a gear box that is a total puzzle to use and a 53' hitched.... I'd drink like a fish too.

The amount of home owners that die because they want to 'prune' their tree and they want to do that by taking a chainsaw up a ladder and... Never ends well. Or they end up fucking up their home or some else's. But us tradies make the world turn. What trade are you in?

>In all trucking you have to have your whits about you, and keep a cool calm head at all times. After all fuel goes boom.

Thats where I would lose my head, I'm an anxious driver anyway, but I'd be terrified of some cyclist with a death wish trying to get under my tires.

Tree work is not boring at all. It's alot of high octane fun. Money is decent too.

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Anyone looking for "easiest" is going to be a shit worker who never makes it past "new guy"

Are you mad?
I have been welding for 20 years.
I hate it, the protective gear is hot and uncomfortable and I have many injuries that I had to go to hospital for.

Electrician or Carpenter, have the highest barriers to entry in that they take the longest to apprentice to really be good. They also get paid fairly well.

>user posts about a job that doesn't seem to require much expertise to highlight it in actuality does.
>respond with a job that obviously requires a level of expertise
hurdur you should try being a nuclear technician for day, you don't know shit carfag

Elevator mechanics make a entry level salary in the 80s and 90s....easily get to 6 figures in 4-5 years

Yeah I'm not sure where he was going with that post, but good for him I guess.

And sous chefs at Wendy's make $120k starting. What's your point?

custom jobs get you good money, but commercial painting is bigger and long term, with a lot less need for detail

Lol what

>nuclear technician
Watch a computer all day. Seems hard

You must not be making enough money.

For example. I'm in Chicago and just got home from a 12 hour shift. My paysheet from last night alone was $600. I rode a train for about 30 miles. Didn't throw any switches or anything. Just rode and kept my log. Then slept in a shanty waiting for a van too come get me. Then slept in the van on the way back to my home terminal

That would be the engineer, not the techs

>Doesn't like math
>Switched to engineering

Nigga what are you doing?!

I don't know enough about either job. Was just responding to that dumb fuck user.

Yeah obviously it wasn't a fuel truck, I'm not exactly sure what he hauled though. He also retired like 20 years ago so things must have been a bit different back then, for better or for worse. Anyway, respect for truck drivers. Dealing with distracted and shitty drivers is bad enough in my regular car, I can't imagine driving around with a 10,000 gallon combustible cylinder on my back.

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Autism

physics math =/= engineering math
like comparing a mathematician to an accountant, coming from an engineer.

Some of the drawbacks though is you could spend half your time at an away from home terminal. So basically in a hotel... But if you are single that shit is a gold mine of pussy

go to truck driving school, learn to drive 18 wheelers coast to coast, you can work your way up to making a hell of a lot of money, eventually can buy your own tractor trailer rig and be an owner/operator

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What kind of jobs would you say those are?

Dude. The cursory nuclear physics I had to learn to get an X-ray degree was enough to piss me off. So I don’t care if I never hear about “scatter” or “inverse square law” again. I like al the blood and guts of it.

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Yes, and be jobless in less than 5 years when all cars and trucks are self-driving. Solid advice for a lifetime career, you donkey.

Ain’t no fucking way.

Stock market :)

No u.

Agreed

Any tips for getting started/working as a conductor? I'm in Chicago as well and I've thought about it for a while now.

wtf has that got to do with safety?

You have to wear THICK flame-proof clothing, no skin can be showing.
You have to wear a heavy face mask/helmet.
Just one tiny molten globule spits out and goes down into your shoe(the fucking worst) it ain't going to stop melting whatever it touches until you get it out.
Sometimes in difficult places to weld you have to use non-darkening goggles instead of a face mask and risk getting arc-eye, which you have little idea you have(like sunburn) until much later, you wake in the night and your eyes feel like someone poured sand into them.
When you are grinding welds you're face is sand blasted with metal splinters and it covers you whole body in a metal dust. Sometimes the metal splinters bounce off something close and behind you protective glasses and embed themselves in your eyeball, you then have to go to hospital and they pull them out while you are awake.
You get regular electric shocks which aren't dangerous but they aren't pleasant either.
In summer if you are not welding in an air-conditioned building you will think you are working in hell.

I do my own building and plumbing and electrical installations for 20 years and am a qualified electronics engineer I also do custom cars as a hobby. Of all the trades, welding is the worst by far. Been to hospital 3 times and never for any of the other trades.

Money is great but it is the shittiest job by far.

Just keep applying. Stalk the railroad websites for when they are hiring and get in as soon as they post the job. Then when you go to the hiring session they will try to scare you and make it sound like the worst job ever. They do this to weed people out. Just sound motivated and that you have no problems with weird schedules and being out in the elements.

We've literally hired 18 y/o kids with zero experience.

Personal Trainer here. So. Fucking. Easy.

Learn stuff as you go.
Count reps, and tell people good job. $30/hr. 2 Associates, no BA.

Would they care at all if I officially have my HS diploma? Finished 4 years but there's complications.

Cooking

Dont do this

Seconded

It helps if you currently have a job, even if it is flipping burgers or taking tickets at a movie theater.

Truck driver is not a trade, its a job

Im an IBEW electrician. I make $35.24/hour plus another $18/hour in benefits (pension, annuity, insurance). It is a 5 year program though

Appreciate the advice, take it easy man.

Thanks for the suggestion user. Might actually look into that. Get me outta this retail hell.

Youll be fine if you learn how to acrually work hard

>It is a 5 year program though
But you actually get paid during that 5 year training period, unlike college where you lose money right?

Fuck being a pussy do a mans job and become a structural tower ironworker be a man and do a mans job

Yes, pretty much all trade apprenticeships are paid.

Found the air force fag

Go learn to weld or something if you're worried about cutting off fingers. Good welders are always in demand and few people think of it as a profession so there's not too much competition for work. If you have a brain and can afford the tuition then go be an electrician. Always something for an electrician to do and decent money very flexible too (you could do railway stuff, house wiring, be a tester etc). If you're thinking about mechanic work then look to being an engineer instead. Mechanics have a bad rep, they're fucking everywhere and automotive companies are trying to kill the profession by using specialist tools and weird terms of service etc. Painting is physically demanding and too simple so everybody without a brain is doing it (badly, but still). Carpentry is finger losing territory. Butcher is also easy work, but SERIOUS finger losing territory (these fuckers were so miserable they'd often open up eachother's arteries as a favour just to a few days off work) It's also fucking hard work.

to get in any trade you're going to have to start at the bottom and do the bitch work for a few years until your skills develop
heavy equip operator pays well I've heard
i got into machining and now work in the engineering department doing cnc programming, cad design, drafting, estimating, planning etc
but it took 5 or 6 years of shop floor experience to get here because i didn't go to school for mechanical engineering
making about 60k a year currently

HVAC technician. Great pay, and you end up with highly marketable skills, and will never have trouble finding work.

Correct. You start at 45% journeyman rate and go up 5% every 6 months. Journeyman rate is like $31/hr and you would start just above $14/hr. I get more because im a foreman

Oh yeah and one more thing about welding if you do TIG welding the arc is hotter and brighter than the sun, if you wear anything other than the thick safety clothing the light is so bright it will burn you through a t-shirt, I once had the top button of my safety top undone and a small patch of skin was showing. You know how I knew it was undone? I could smell this fleshy smell, the burn when it fully developed was like almost 3rd degree. I now have a freckled area where the burn was and am sure it is going to develop into skin cancer later in life.

Go to art school. To graduate, all you have to do is:
>sip coffee
>wear 3 scarves like a pretentious indiefuck hipster
>talk down to others like a pretentious dickhead
>have a rich family member or friend you can work for in a position that has nothing to do with your degree

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One word of caution. Trades get hit by recessions harder than anyone. Those that don't get laid off won't get the overtime they are used to.

Doesn't tedious work tend to make your mind wander, resulting in complacency? Or can you do it safely without having to think about it

>art school
What a useless waste of time.

Where you guys from? When you weld you have to grind and nothing causes more finger injuries than a grinding wheel. Are you all in your 20s or something....kek

>spoken like a newfag retard who doesn't even know how to craft a fur-suit.

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mining,fool

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Electricians don't fit off socket outlets all day. It's pretty rough & dangerous work just getting the cables through the building. We regularly attack block walls and concrete with grinding wheels.

But yeah, it's a fun trade. You need to be rough and tumble yet neat and precise. And creative to visualise the most efficient cable pathway, then make it happen without spilling brick dust all over the furniture.

Knowing how to properly strip, wax, and buff linoleum floors is actually a skilled trade. The only problem with it is that illegal immigrants will do it for $8/hr.

A great job is an Avionics engineer, fixing the electrics on aircraft, it's so specialised that you get taught in their own night schools while you work as an apprentice. Really exciting you get to flight check aircraft. I worked on Spitfires and Corsairs and loads of other awesome aircraft. You need to have good maths and the studying is quite difficult but the pay and benefits(free air travel if you work for an airline) are great. I have a feeling though you might need some college in the USA because I did not leave school until I was 18 which I think is the equivalent to 1st year college in the USA. The only thing you really need to be able to handle the on-job evening school is maths, the rest of the stuff they teach you.

Faggot

If worried about losing fingers, elevators are easy to lose fingers, legs and your life if not careful. Every year we have people getting limbs crushed/dismembered and sometimes death. I'm in local 3 and old timers say it's not like the old days. You had time to work safe and put out quality work. Now it's rushed since companies low bid jobs and promise insanely short time frame.

Welding. If I were to do it. Getting all the carts I could.. One gets back what they put in. Not talking factory welding. Pipe fitters make bank. Certs and learning takes time and dedication. After I got everything Or what I wanted. id open a small shop. won’t even have to advertise and have plenty of work from word of mouth fixing people’s stuff.

Same here user.

Do a specialty trade. It takes more out of you than all other standard trades. I.e electrician, Sheetrock, plumbing, framing, etc.

But it pays substantially more

where your little feelings hurt?

Go plumbing.

Do concrete dude. Super easy.

Become a chef
Or an alcoholic theres not much of a difference

>plumbing
Shit flows down hill
Payday is Thursday
Don't lick your fingers

Make the rest up as you go

Web development/programming

Not really a trade but you can learn for free and the field is huge.

Hard to get the top end pay tho. A fully ticketed and and journeyman welder can take about four years. And even then the pay is sub par.

I've just got into the 70k bracket, but that was after I spent 6 years of schooling, training, and still doing that shit.

Get into HVAC, plumbing, or Mason work.
Or look into getting into project management, and find advances to becoming a site supervisor or project manager.

>799389979
what exactly do you mean commerical a/v installation?

Niche trade installing PA and video conferencing systems pretty much. Not very many positions but good money in it if you can win enough fitouts to stay busy. Competitive

damn i wunna do that