If children are old enough to have sexual desires, they should be able to have sex with an adult if they choose to...

How is a 5yo old enough to have sexual desires? They can barely speaks. Don't make an strawman so big, holy shit.

Children don't understand the social repercussions of sex, and they can't because they haven't matured sexually. Children are also compulsive and seek pleasures at the risk of their own health and well being. Children are easily misled by adults and can be taken advantage of by someone who isn't even trying to take advantage of them. For their protection we have thus concluded that children cannot consent. How exactly are these stupid reasons?

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This argument is completely retarded and it's hilarious how you don't understand why.
A child is apparently incapable of knowing both what it wants and apparently lacks the reasoning skills to decide whether it will follow through with that want.
Does it not strike you as ridiculous that apparently a child cannot know what it wants? When I was a kid I knew what I fucking wanted. It wasn't sex until I was approaching my teens but I sure as shit knew what I wanted outside of that - I wanted to play games and eat junk food, mostly. Are these decisions good for me? No. Did I have the information required to make an informed decision? Yes. Did I still decide to do those things? When given the opportunity, yes.

The ONLY difference between things like that and sex is that we don't actually inform children about sex and associated dangers (STIs, unwanted pregnancy, etc). until it's too fucking late.

Jesus fuck why is it so hard to just tell kids all the information and let them make their own decisions. If they're too dumb to do that, they shouldn't be allowed to leave the fucking house without a parent for god's sake.

Imagination exists.

I'm starting to think you are the one that got brainwashed into repressing his sexual desires.

Another thing - there are vast swathes of fully-grown adults that don't know this shit and yet they're still capable of consent, despite having the mental faculties of a retarded monkey in a coma.

Sex changes how how your peers perceive you. It changes how you perceive yourself. It even makes new fucking humans. Try that with a video game.

5yo children sometimes stick things in their vagina. That is true. It is also true that they stick things in their nose. That is not sexual desire. That is just toddlers that doesn't know what they are doing.

And because society cares less about them they aren't protected. This is not a reason to stop protecting children.

So does eating a bunch of junk food, getting fat and diabetes.
80% of society is made up of these braindead mooks.

>imagination exists

Unsexualized children see dolphins in this photo. You'd need a mental reference before you saw two lovers engaging in sexual behavior, not an imagination.

Go away.

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We also have laws and regulations to prevent kids from eating too much junk food, getting fat, and developing diabetes. Children are dumb and need the protection. They seek pleasure at personal cost.
>80% of society is made up of these braindead mooks.
This is simply untrue and a terrible justification. With it you are both inflating your ego and trying to justify your attractions. I understand because I'm a pedo. But there are better ways to address your feelings.

I just wish this standard were applied across the board. For instance a kid cant decide they are a different gender or go on hormones without a parent consent. Also fuck pedos

I'm not saying adults should be fucking children, I'm staying that a dangerously large amount of society is approximately as capable as a child when it comes to making informed decisions about parenthood.

This, this user has the brains that any of you pedo dont have.

About parenthood and other dangers of sex, I mean.

yeah cool let manipulate a children into thinking that they want sexual desire and regret it 10 years later. cool.
fucking ped0

People having sex past age 14 is what causes cancer, autism, and schizophrenia.
All children should be required to get some sperm frozen as soon as they can and all adults should be sterilized.
If we outlawed sex with anybody over 14 we could cure cancer

what age do you suggest that they allow having sex? 16?

Children are easily manipulated into giving consent. This is a terrible idea. How about just not having sex with kids?

No adult woman today is mentally capable of consenting to sex.
Anytime a penis enters a vagina without the fathers permission that is rape!

>Children are easily manipulated into giving consent
You are talking like the are being told to jump off a bridge. The fact that the majority of society agrees with you is insane.

thefreethoughtproject.com/somebody-help-cops-handcuff-mentally-challenged-boy-before-pepper-spraying-beating-him/

You can in lots of countries. Not that I really agree completely with either point.

I can agree that many such people exist, but it's nowhere near 80% of the population. That overestimation is what allows for the justification of sexual feelings.

It's obviously a false estimation if one simply looks at IQ scores. 68 percent of scores fall within one standard deviation of the mean (that is, between 85 and 115). That means that nearly 70 percent of all people score within plus or minus 15 points of the average score. Children 12 and under score well below this if one uses the adult scaling methods. In fact, age matters so much for intelligence that every year of growth up until 18 has a unique scale.

As for the problem of the adults who are mentally incapable: They are adults. They cannot change. We as a society see less hope in them. We see that as already damaged. We care far less about them. Take your pick of those or many other reasons that still don't justify sexual acts with children.

I would totally do that one in the middle!!

Sex with anybody over 14 should be illegal.

Children's brains aren't fully developed. They can't make consistently good decisions. Bodies are growing, brains are growing. I have a desire to kick your fucking teeth in but I'm an adult and don't react to whims, urges and desires.

That's a normal age...

Just sterilize all adults and fix this already damn

I think the laws we have now are fine to a degree. What we need is better sex ed in American schools. Starting at 13 or 8th grade at the earliest

The pleasure center is fully developed by age 13.

Ignorance is holy innocence
Remember the tree in the garden

>If children are old enough to have sexual desires, they should be able to have sex with an adult if they choose to.

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Femanon here. I started masturbating when I was 4. No one ever touched me or introduced me to sex, but I sought it out. Started watching porn when I was 8 or 9. I always, always wanted an adult to plow me, but never went through with it.

I'm 25 now. Very reasonable and vanilla sexual interests now. I masturbate about once a day but it's usually just to help me fall asleep.

>If children are old enough to have sexual desires, they should be able to have sex with an adult if they choose to.
>Children's brains aren't fully developed. They can't make consistently good decisions.

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And that is the reason I don't agree with children making life-changing decisions. Sex is not one of them, they only negative consequences are created by society turning it into a stigma.

I say lets legalize pedophilia but as a caveat we don't charge people with a crime for killing someone who fucks children.

It'll all sort itself out within 6 months.

The babies of a 24 year old are 10 times more likely to have autism or scizophrenia than the babies of a 14 year old livescience.com/24196-male-fertility-limit.html

well that settles. all children must be raised isolated from all other humans and only consumed state approved media.

i'm sure that will work out well.

Okay retard.

>Femanon here
< the point where you know a dude posted it

>plow me
< if one blasts through the first point, this point is the one in which there's no doubt a dude posted it

Are you an unicorn or did you have friends like this as well?

You're right, I exaggerated the number. It's likely more in the 20-40% range.
I'm not justifying sex with children. I do not believe that adults should be pursuing children as potential sexual partners. Children can, however, at varying ages before the agreed upon age of consent, have sufficient knowledge and understanding of sex to reasonably consent to intercourse. It depends on the child (or more accurately, teenager, in most cases), though.

My issue is entirely one with the sentence "children cannot consent".

You are a dedicated servant of pain suffering and disease, a true enemy of the whole of mankind

>plow me

Clearly written by a guy. Atleast PRETEND to write like a man you fucking faggot.

As far as I know, I'm one of my few friends who *wasn't* molested as a kid. I'm pretty sure they all had typical sexual interests growing up despite the trauma.

Only for 6 months ;)

Negative consequences:
When children grow up and better understand the consequences of their actions, it shapes what they think of themselves. Shame leads to depression.
When others find out they judge the child, and lay their own insecurities upon them, leading to more shame and depression. This is not because of a stigma, but because sex is far more important than harmless fun. It is sad to see people who never learn this.
Oh, and there's also the chance the kid will get pregnant, no birth control is 100 percent effective. The risks involved in such cases is death.

I remember back when I was 12, I had already been taught about the dangers and such when I was about 11 and I really, REALLY wanted to have sex back then.
Not like I would have if I was allowed back then, I was kind of an ugly twat, still am, but the oppertunity would at least have been nice

obviously, but it's not wrong that children figure out rubbing their privates feels good around that age. parents reactions to this are even funnier than the masturbating toddlers.

Lol you don't have to believe me, that's fine. That's what I wanted though. Have you watched The Keepers on Netflix? The priest repeatedly using one of the students was my ultimate fantasy. I had to pause the show every episode to go masturbate to it.

Do you idiots sleep through every science class or do you just draw wasted 24/7?
Do you not understand where cancer fucking comes from?
Every day past puberty someone waits to reproduce just leaves the window open for environmental pollution to accumulate epigenetic damage which will eventually be inherited by their baby as cancer
The fixing cure for cancer is simply shutting that window!
m.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1bZEUgqVI

Unironically kill yourself “m’lady”

Okay, let's be more specific. Children who have yet to go through puberty, and most who have only recently gone through puberty, are often incapable of giving consent - but more importantly, cannot be verified as able to give consent. Thus a ruling "Children cannot consent" is not a reflection of their ability, but rather a decision of perception that we have chosen as a society to protect children.

Pleasure is Sin

I was jerking off to orgasm at 8, and begging the universe to have an older woman fuck me.

wasn't even abused, I just knew that I liked women and their features.

This may not be the case for everyone at a young age but it sure was for me lol.

Kids do need to be protected though.

>When others find out they judge the child, and lay their own insecurities upon them
>This is not because of a stigma

You are contradicting yourself. Sex is only psychologically harmful because OTHERS shame you for it.

The epidemic of Cancer, Autism, and Schizophrenia is the price we pay as a society for the morality of protecting children from pleasure and fun.
The question here is whether that is a fair price for us to pay

what makes sex special?

kids are allowed to participate in activities where they can (and each year without fail, many do) die or get permanently injured.
sex is less dangerous. you're not thinking about the risk v. informed consent issue, you're just stating an unfounded moral axiom that sex is "bad" therefore requires a level of informed consent far beyond the risk level justifies in comparison to similarly risky activities.

Stop it.
When people coerce children into doing sexual stuff its called manipulation. They arent consenting to the sexual acts they are just going along with the adult.

Kids arent born and then tossed into the real world. They are raised by adults and learn trust. The breaking of trust and realization later in life can really fuck with someones mind.

It's also creepy as fuck to groom people.

How about we agree that if a girl can deliver a baby, she’s old enough to fuck.

If her pregnancy isn’t considered high risk so 14 or above.

Only through suffering can you get closer to Jesus on the cross.
Pleasure is not suffering.

It is unnatural and immoral for a child to hold sexual authority over an adult.

Sex is harmful before sexual maturity because it shapes who you will become in ways that would not have otherwise occurred - children are extremely unacceptable to influence. Their brains are wired to learn in ways that adults aren't. When, in retrospect, these changes don't align with the beliefs / feelings the child develops upon reaching sexual maturity, it causes shame, regret, anxiety, and depression. Social stigma is not needed for these issues to occur. In light of these problems, society has its own judgement which unfortunately exacerbate the circumstances when they occur, but also serve to prevent their occurrence in the first place.

a 6 year old gave birth once

susceptible to influence*

OP is just pissed because no.self.respecting woman would fuck him, so he tries to project his unfulfilled desires upon those young enough to not realize that hes a fat neckbearded faggot who eats tendies more often than they do.

Take your pedo ass somewhere high and jump off it please. Stop trying to groom kids to fuck your sorry ass.

tl;dr
>neck yourself

isn't that exactly the narrative that people flipped their shit over when it got disproven?

the evidence of that harm is lacking outside of specific abusive scenarios that are harmful to adults as well.

That doesnt happen. And if it does it means the adult put them in the situation which is still manipulating them. No say 11 year old is going to have the sex drive as a 17 year old, and even at that it's rare teens will chase fat hairy pedos Stop living in a fantasy world.

It is all moral bullshit. You can say that about any other activity that a child does with an adult.

The only reason 13yo that had sex with adults gest psycological problems is because of people like you shaming them for liking sex.

i had more sex when i was 10 than i did from 17-20. not with adults, but mainly because the opportunity never arose. if my babysitter had offered...

Society creates the problem by considering sex the best thing and the most hideous thing at the same time. We are all brainwashed by this nonsense.

>disproven
This has actually been demonstrated in various studies, though it is impossible to prove or disprove because the issue is so complicated, and testing is so unethical. Still, there is a great deal of supporting evidence and as far as I'm aware, no credible evidence to the contrary.

Of course, you know what has even less evidence? The assumption that one can put all the blame on society - a convenient assumption that releases pedos from guilt or responsibility for their feelings. It's very tempting to believe, but in my opinion it's nowhere certain enough that one should risk a child's well being over it.

If they dont know what sex is or feels like then someone obviously planted the idea.
It didnt happen naturally.

That's called coercing and becomes morally fucked up.
Have you ever heard of child soldiers? Same shit.

Stop lying larp fag.

fucking paedophile, you should be hanged.

>livescience

kekd hard

>Comparing sex with fighting in a fucking war.

Do you see how fucking lunatic you and the rest of this society are?

Society creates the problem by devaluing sex and viewing it as pure recreation. It creates new life, it binds us together through chemical changes in our brains and it assigns social status. By forgetting these truths we do ourselves great injustice. We put ourselves and each other at great risk of emotional turmoil.

Yea because kids are known for their great decisions

It's the same principle you idiot. Humans are capable to killing as much as having sex. Can you see how society frowns upon murder and child sex abusers?

How here can say it a woman

stop with the psuedo science, trying to justify the urges that should have you strung up and dangling til youre dead fucking pedo. cancer is caused more by the fact that our genetics are fucked from birth onward, not when we start having sex

What? Take your time.

Sorry

How here is a woman?

He's talking about the known statistics pointing to higher rates of cancer in people born of mothers over the age of 18. Everything else was bullshit though, and even this statistic is largely insignificant in the grand scheme of things, there are many more prolific sources of cancer with a much greater impact.

>how(who?) here is a woman?
Probably no one.

Sex is the same thing as having a mine blow your legs off... Sure...

How is everybody this brainwashed about sex?

However it was extremely high risk.

Still doesn’t make sense

DNA is wound on a spool called a histone and read like a cassette by "heads" called methyl groups.
Epigenetic damage to the histone or methyl groups from accumulated environmental damage causes that DNA to be wound too tight or too loose, causing read errors which form cancer instead of healthy cells, or damages the methylations groups, which causes read errors resulting in cancer.
How are you this ignorant of basic health science did you drop out of 6th grade?

hes rying to grasp at straws to make himself not feel like a nasty pedo who should be raped with a barbed and splintered broom handle before being strung up and allowed to be eaten by carrion birds as a warning to anyone else who wants to diddle kids

That's not what the comparison he's making is saying at all, it's not even a little bit implied. He's taking something everyone knows is wrong (child soldiers) and pointing out that because a child can easily be coerced into risking its life, a child can even more easily be coerced into having sex. Often children are coerced by someone who doesn't even know they are coercing the child - that's how fucking easy it is.

Children are incapable of making rational decisions.

Nobody over 14 should have sex with anyone ever
Is literally the cure for fucking cancer

What are the social repercussions of sex other than vilifying the fact they had it? e.g. Girl has a lot of sex so she must be a slut.

yeah? and cannabinoids make sure that those defective cells die. even without an extraneous source of cannabinoids, our body produces them naturally. your arguments are weak, and i think you should go kill yourself before you ruin some kids life, and their parents life for having to kill you for trying to touch their kid because youre under some fucked up impression that since you seem to know all this shit, you should get to fuck kids.

youre sick, and that sickness can only be treated with your death.

Less prolific cancers are a fair price for us to pay for your morality?

Having sex is not risking your life, you brainwashed morons.

Yeah, they just speak random noises.

You're right, though I have more sympathy for him than you. It disgusts me to say, but I identify with him a little bit, I used to lie to myself about that sort of stuff to feel better about my own attractions. I never went further than stealing some kids underwear, but by the time I was 24 the guilt caught up with me. I made serious changes in my life. I accepted that I was a pedophile. Now I'm in a happy age appropriate relationship with a cute little asian.

no its fucking not you stupid fucking Neanderthal. otherwise st judes hospitql wouldnt exist you fucking mongoloid

in one and half sentences, your entire argument is shattered

If cannabinoids killed histones and methyl groups they would be as deadly as organophosphates.
Put the blunt down and try paying attention in health class

I'm over 14 retard

They can speak but their decision making ability is poor. That’s why they aren’t allowed to sign contracts

I agree they should be protected for dangerous decisions. I don't think sex is one of them.

What? They already outlawed sex with adults?
I don't think they did you're just fucking retarded

In general, having sex can make you appear older and more mature - essentially giving the opposite reaction. It can also elevate social status - having sex with someone important suddenly makes you important. Likewise having sex with someone disgusting makes you disgusting. There's a lot of different circumstances and cultures that play into the specific reactions, but the theme of sex being important socially is universal. Understanding these social implications before having sex is vital to not risking regret.

no

You realize the cancer treatment industry doesn't want to stop existing right

Sex is a dangerous decision. It can literally ruin your life

The cancers caused by having sex as an adult occur at a far lower rate than the deaths caused by giving birth before being an adult. The rate of cancer from sex as an adult is also lower than the rate of birth defects caused by being born of a child mother.

livescience.com/22595-older-dads-mutations-kids.html

Yea pedophelia is just a lie made up by big cancer

not yet

well good for you, im glad to see that you recognized that within yourself and were able to overcome it. but there is no justification to fucking a kid.

whats pissing me off is hes trying to justify it, and there is no way he can change my mind, i watched as two nieces and my nephew were dragged through hell by a molester. the oldest has gone on to a horrific adult life because of what happened to her, the boy killed himself, and only the middle one is somewhat normal.

sorry not sorry, pedos need to die

Thanks to people like you that believe that crap.

The cancers caused by having sex as an adult occur at a far higher rate than the cancers caused by giving birth before being an adult. The rate of cancer from sex as an adult is also higher than the rate of birth defects caused by being born of a child mother.

endocannibinoid system, every mammal has it. put the child porn away an pick up a fucking biology book

Children don't want to have sex with adults, so just stop. They are not attracted to people much older than they are. It's just not going to happen. No one wants to fuck you user. Not even innocent children, dogs or inanimate objects. You should just kys.

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Pregnancy and STDs are not things that exist solely because of belief.

The dangers of children playing doctor with each other are hyped up, falsified, and exaggerated by Big Cancer yes

Treating sex like something immoral and disgusting is what makes them be vulnerable to predators in the first place. I don't deny predators exists and I'm not defending them.

Ignorance of sex makes children vulnerable to sexual abusers

This is very wrong. I grew up having 0 interest in anyone my age. I was however obsessed with older men (fag). I did terrible things like try to peek at men's dicks in bathrooms and ended up almost dying because of it. I honestly believe my life wouldn't have turned out so shitty if I hadn't been isolated from every older adult male that might have shown me love or affection.

The thing is, a little girl would find you equally disgusting as woman would.

So it's over anoncel, go hug that rope with your neck.

That is not the reason you are against it. Don't give that bullshit. A child that is swimming in the river can also drown and you are not against it.

I understand your anger user, and I'm sorry that happened. My family has had similar problems and they are just devastating. I have two nieces now, 6 and 8 years old, and I can't imagine watching them go through that. As it is I have a hard time just looking them in the face. I avoid them more for my well being, rather than their own safety. But at the same time, I want to be a father, so I need to confront it some way.

Well anyway, I'm not looking for sympathy or compassion here, but if you have any advice I'd be open to it. I feel like I can trust you to be honest regarding this topic.

youre a fucking predator trying to justify having sex with kids,

the fuck are you talking about?

have a daughter and let some rando fuck her then if youre so serious about fucking little kids, have a boy an let some fifty year old man shove his dick up your sons ass til it rips and he dies from septic shock

I am against a child swimming anywhere without a lifeguard present

I can't I'm scared I might learn about epigenetics

It risks children's life you dummy.

Kids dont know the consequences of sex. The adults do. But the adults dont care they just want to fulfill their desires.
And the while child soldier thing is still going way over your head retard.

If they are old enough to understand what sex is, why not?
>shove his dick up your sons ass til it rips and he dies from septic shock
Brutal rape and consensual sex are different things, user.

We can't start working on an epigenetic therapy to repair histone and methyl group damage caused by the environmental pollution accumulated from allowing adults to reproduce without accepting that protecting children from sex is what has caused it in the first place

>It risks children's life you dummy.

Thousands of teenagers die of orgasms every year.

Only YOU can help stop it.

ok maybe third time the charm here. im floored and dont know if youre trolling or serious so please forgive my incredulousness with this.

you sound like you have a handle.on it fairly well, so keep doing what youre doing to stay clean of the actions.

i have fantasies where i go on a rampage killing people, i dont because its wrong to take anothers life unless theyve done harm to me or a loved one, and even then, itd have to be bad for me to actually act on it. not the same, but in principle it is

It's morally better for thousands of children to be maimed and murdered by cancer than to experience sexual pleasure.

even a tiny rip in consensual sex can have devestating consequences. hell even a grown woman getting a rip in her vaginal wall can have an air embolism form an kill her.

let kids be kids, theyll learn what sex is in due time, no need to force it to happen quicker

It's morally better for all children to be born autistic than for kids to know of sexual pleasure.

Ignorance is vulnerability.

Yea. You think using words like that makes you smart but you really have no idea about Methyltransferases

Thank you for replying seriously and candidly, I'm not a troll. Do those fantasies make you feel ashamed? When you see people you've fantasized about killing, does it cause anxiety?

I've made the same comparison you're making right now to convince myself I'm not a bad person, but I wonder if it's true. I have to hide who I am. My friends regularly talk about killing pedos, even non offenders. Many would say I'm still too much of a risk to have around kids, even if I do "have a handle on things."

I wonder if social acceptance would alleviate some of my suffering, but I also fear that it might lead to more pedos harming more kids - many of my friends think so.

Knowing all this, I'm still intending to have children - probably at least one girl. How would you deal with fantasies of killing your child, or maybe just your child's friends? Obviously following through isn't an option, but neither is avoiding the child - which is what I am currently doing to avoid the anxiety and shame I feel.

Explain chromatins

as a guy who was fucked by his dad as a boy, I promise you, there's a very big difference between careful exploration and violent entry.

kids are going to learn. kids are also going to victimize other kids. I'd say it's better to have educated kids that know about sex than dumb ones who end up pregnant at 15.

All children should be pregnant by 15
Waiting beyond that literally causes cancer

>children
>teenagers

Same thing right?

Stop trying to justify pedophilia

complex of DNA, RNA, and protein found in eukaryotic cells.[1] Its primary function is packaging very long DNA molecules into a more compact, denser shape, which prevents the strands from becoming tangled and plays important roles in reinforcing the DNA during cell division, preventing DNA damage, and regulating gene expression and DNA replication. During mitosis and meiosis, chromatin facilitates proper segregation of the chromosomes in anaphase; the characteristic shapes of chromosomes visible during this stage are the result of DNA being coiled into highly condensed networks of chromatin.

>If children are old enough to have sexual desires
I said that in the OP. That does not happen before puberty. I'm not talking about pre-pubescents.

Pretty sure environmental pollution is what caused it. Risking the lives of children isn't the solution here.

The terrible shock of orgasm can easily snap the weaker minds of women and children.
As a preventative measure, all clits should be removed with carbolic acid before age 10, and pleasure from consuming sweets should be reduced by switching your sugary breakfast cereals to my new NSA "corn flakes"

Anyone thinking legal sex with children is not happening is a fucking retard. This is 100% happening in the next 30 years.

The history and progress of humanity is your ultimate proof, there's 0% chance everything wills suddenly stop with legalization of homosexuals and trans.

The revolution is coming, with or without you. Better get used to it.

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Sending all living children to a cave in Peru isolated from environmental pollution is definitely a better solution to continue the tradition of adult reproduction while eradicating cancer.

Damaged histones and cell methylations is what caused it.

Or we could just, you know, clean our pollution and stop producing it. It's not like we don't have time, the degradation of our genetic pool won't be irreversible for about 10,000 years (the blink of an eye evolutionary speaking, but plenty of time for us).

Pleasure Kills.

Damaged histones and cell methylations is what caused damaged histones and cell methylations? Very insightful user.

Great 10,000 year plan, if we hadn't polluted the food, water, air, living spaces, and electromagnetic spectrum then we wouldn't have to walk it back.
If we did outlaw sexual activity with anybody over 14 we could wipe out cancer in 50 years, saving billions of lives during that next 10,000 years until adults can breed once more

>That does not happen before puberty.

Not true: I masturbated a lot at age 10, and loved feeling up and seeing the neighbor girl's hairless twat. She was even more advanced than I was, though neither of us was ever molested. As far as "mental capacity", I was reading at a college level at age 10, so I was as smart as most 18 year olds. Could I give consent? Damned right I could.

Only a small amount of cancer has been caused by pollution, evidenced by ancient mummies with cancer. You're essentially calling for surgery on a paper cut. You're also ignoring the various gruesome wounds on the rest of the body.

Higher ages of consent are only a recent idea. Most states had age of consent fixed at 10 for centuries, because that was considered the age of reason. Girls commonly married by 12 or 13 and were considered "old maids" if they delayed much past that.

>They can barely speaks
>an strawman
Seems like you can barely speak as well.

Strange thing: There are more states with age of consent set at 16 than at 18! If you want to fuck sixteen year olds, just move to one of those states. Don't fuck you student or your kid and you will be perfectly legal.

Some states in Mexico set age of consent at 12, but we would consider them 11, since Mexicans say a baby is 1 year old at birth.

Not sure it really matters when you can just bribe your way out of jail anyway.

That is just what happens when you try to write fast in your second language

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Inability to speak English confirmed, next time just tell the user he's right.

underated

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You and your kind need to be lined up and shot, buried and forgotten.

People like you need to get their dicks cut off.

People like you need to be shot at sight.

...

wrong

Pedosexuals are not evil people. They want to love kids and be gentle to them. Of course FEW of them are going to be violent rapists and abusers.

It is literally the same amount % like in every other orientation. Deal with this. This is your job. The revolution is coming.

Just let kids be kids.once they're 15 let em go at it with adults

Dude your faggotry is not your biggest problem, and the being attracted to older men thing you say you have, isn\t either. You have deep emotional TRAUMA from some time ago, and it made you create these said issues.

Damn, I don't see dolphins.

Man, get help. You were damaged by emotinal trauma in the past and because of them you now have these unwanted problems.
Get help. I love you like you\re my neighbor, and I love everyone and I wish everyone the best.
I hope you don\t get kids before your thoughts and urges are under strong control. I wish you good luck. I love you, and I mean that.

A mangina

Thank you for the kind words, but I haven't had any emotional trauma, I come from a happy well adjusted middle class family. I was the youngest, and I was a little spoiled. My attractions are the result of genetics / epigenetics. It is a sexual orientation, but I'm lucky in that I'm also somewhat attracted to adults and have a loving supportive relationship with someone who understand me. I also do have a strong control over my urges, all that's left are fantasies that are so far disconnected from reality I never so much as think about trying to live them. The problem I have is that being around kids makes me feel ashamed about those fantasies, and it rekindles within my heart all the terrible things people say about pedos. It makes me re question myself, even though I've come so far after searching so long. Do you understand?

What is your favorite loli age, user? And you don't have to be ashamed, if you don't want to harm them. I know most people say that sex is automatically harmful thing, but it is not. If you would be gentle and caring and loving, the kids would love you back. Don't be ashame of your fantasies. I found that what helps the most is to talk about this with people who are on the same boat.

>You'd need a mental reference before you saw two lovers engaging in sexual behavior
In a normal society, children would have that reference, instead we tell them lies about where babies come from and turn sex into a disgusting taboo. There is nothing wrong with our nature.

I've talked to many pedos, and with many pedos I disagree. I don't believe children can consent. I hold this belief firmly because it has been demonstrated to me. It has been further reaffirmed by research, something the claims of "social sitgma" can't produce. When pedos make claims like those I feel sad, because I know they are well intentioned, and the children involved are probably happy at first, but it's only an excuse. With every child touched inappropriately there is extreme risk for both parties involved. I don't doubt that there is love, but not all love should be sexual, and not all sexual love is right.

but since you asked, 5-9

I they are old enough to go into hormon therapy cuz they know they are uniconisexual, ysure why not

Where the cheese at nibba

Why is sex something so evil? Sex is the most fundamental basic activity of any species on this planet. Even a fetus masturbates in mother's womb.
The psychological damage is clearly there because as society we decided there will be a damage. Nowhere in nature is this reproduced. No single other species have any age barriers of any kind.
We're literally trapped in our own world and rules made out of blue and most importantly, out of natural world. And as history shows, we will slowly push these limits out. It is time to reclaim what is ours from the birth.
Sex is part of nature as hugging, breathing or eating are. No religion or thousands of years of brainwashing can ever change that. We have to be better than this.

Good God, till me 10 min. to find the damned dolphins.

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Sex is not evil, it's important. As such sex must be treated carefully and with respect. Yes, it is a part of nature, it is the bringer of life. It defines us, it binds us, and it can break us. A man eager for sexual relations can easily forget these truths, can easily mislead a child into thinking sex is merely harmless fun, can easily trick himself into believing the same thing - because otherwise, what is to be done with those attractions? Surely shame is not the answer, we both agree there at least. And there is truth in that not all children are the same, not all are at as much risk of betraying themselves, but who those children are is not something anyone can decide. This is why I believe children cannot consent - because we can not be certain they are capable of it. More importantly, the least able to be certain of such a thing is a man wanting to have sex with the child. Desire blinds us all user.

From my perspective, sex is important as eating or breathing. I don't read too much into it. That is what society does. They take one of the basic functions of human life and snowball it with meanings and extra importance outside of the natural scope.
I want kids to be happy. To be loved. To have fun. To have control without any tears or bad thoughts. And I believe this is possible. Maybe not with all. But then again it is not possible with all adults as well.
We should celebrate our differences, not to blanket tax 1/3 of the global population under the law of fear. Let's give the children chance to prove they can do it. Let's test them, let's be careful and let's the love win.

Your body is not ready for sex until youre around 16 pedo

I've seriously come across more 15, 16, and 17 year olds on Craigslist/MeetMe/Tinder than I can count. They always lie about their age on their profile but then admit to me they're younger than 18 and they ALWAYS tell me they're on a dating site/app because they are looking to get fucked by an older man. I did plow a 17 year old that way once but I was in my early 20s at the time and 17 is legal in my state anyway. But it was glorious. Still the tightest pussy I've ever had in my life apart from a 49 year old I used to fuck (no joke, that bitch was made for sex). Anyway, teens and younger kids do want sex.

You are fucking disgusting

lmao

girls are 100% able to carry and give birth to a healthy baby since their first period which varies but is around the 12 year of age, boys also start producing viable semen around this age.

This is stupid. You don't need to be sexualized to see arms,legs and breasts. The dolphins are only their hair. In true optical illusion, as this is falsely implied to be, majority of image encompasses one interpretation or the other. The dolphin vs head illusion is a third of the image at most . Unless you're an alien unfamiliar with the human body shape or a severe autistic who has trouble discriminating from animate vs inanimate everyone's going to see 2 bodies.

>Your body is not ready for sex until youre around 16 pedo
This is how society thinks.

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When I was 7 or 8, I lived in one room with my stepsister, who was around my age, maybe one year older than me.

We regularly touched each other, licked each other's privates andtried to have sex, ut of course failed.

And now here are you, telling me, that I wasn't capable of consenting to that. So I bascically raped my stepsister, and my stepsister raped me?

Here's proof right here. Inb4 20 peoole use "nuh uh!" as an argument.

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>so you're telling me because X then Y?

jewish bread and butter

Society is as much a part of us as we are of it. Choose to ignore its lessons at your own peril. There was a time in human history where society echoed your perspective - it destroyed itself, but then it grew to new understandings. It found value in things you discredit, not to restrict freedom, but thrive. It's akin to the transformation a child makes when entering adulthood, where sacrifices are made to safeguard the future. You user, have not grown up.

Nuh uh!

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I can't follow you. The person I responded to was arguing, that children can't consent to sexual practises.
I gave an example of my own life, stating my sexual experience as a child, took the claim that children can't consent into that and concluded that, since neither of us were capable of consenting, we basically raped each other.

That's common sense, no jewish trickery here.

I could use the same argument you did for the entire history of the world, including the punishment of atheists, black slaves, homosexuals, transgenders and more. You see, the legalization of those did not destroy anything.
Your perspective is the same as those who fought against those things named. One day you will see the truth. Or not. Everyone has a right to remain hateful and fearful against something different.

>can't follow because X then Y

oh gee gosh, you sure you have the brain capacity to chime in on this delicate issue?

Neither of you were capable of consent, but likewise neither of you were capable of coercion, as such this is not considered rape and is not applicable.

boundaries

boundaries were destroyed

your opinions aren't facts

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HiLdREn dOn'T hAvE tHe CaPaCitY tO gIvE CoNsEnT.

Kys retard

Nothing was destroyed that would hurt our civilization, and I only stated facts. Homosexuality is legal as everything else named. This is my final word, all future replies will be ignored for your own sake.

>The dolphins are only their hair. In true optical illusion, as this is falsely implied to be, majority of image encompasses one interpretation or the other. The dolphin vs head illusion is a third of the image at most

>Missing most of the dolphins.

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tbh pedophiles (op) should just off themselves, when you have to resort to diddling kids because no rational intelligent human being wants to fuck you you've lost at life.

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Tell that to your 17 yr old sister who fucks like a champ.

Nice bait thread FBI kun

Then I suppose I was not articulate enough. See, the history I speak of has repeated itself countless times. It has no bearings on morality. I am not fearful. I am explaining human nature, and the nature of society. Clearly not all in the world is right even as we speak. I do not use the current year to justify. Instead it is the opposite - much of society is lost right now and has similar sentiments to you. We are people who have rejected the traditions and lessons of our past, and now we must relearn them. Slowly, and painfully. Babylon, Egypt, Greece, Rome, several dynasties of China, and the list goes on. Each of these civilizations sought pleasure as you do, and after forsaking the lessons of the past, they crumbled.

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People like you who live in moral bubbles and can't think outside of it because society formed you that way are the reason why everything bad like wars, hate, religion and all this shit exists. You're the type of guy who will suck authorities dicks for his whole life. You pathetic fuck

my first experience with was with one of my classmates and I've been kinda perverse my whole life

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>my opinions are facts

you can't just make a definitive statement like that. you aren't the "voice of all humanity" and there are many who belueve future generations will look back and laugh at our ineptitude.

you're only discontinuing to respond because there is no unbiased evidence for what you're insinuating to be true, even though OP wants "proof" he and his lackeys offer nothing but "opinion"

boundaries were destroyed. I answered your question and you just moved the goalposts

Oh, so you're actually a conservative who thinks our society is collapsing because we allowed to marry same-sex couples. Got it. I think I have nothing else to add, my arguments stand crystal strong without any cracks and thus we must sadly agree to disagree, user. See you around, this is my final reply.

kek

one trick pony this jew is

Shut up you fucking pedo

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>If you are under 18yo can't consent
>If you are 14yo and rape another 14yo, you should go to jail

That is the current retarded position of society in the US. If people under 18yo can't consent, there is no difference between 2 14yo having CONSENSUAL sex and a 14yo raping another 14yo.

I agree user

I don't see you pulling the trigger on the trans LGBTQ SJW media pedophiles si please shut the fuck up.

Let your stupid gun comfort you while they take everything. But don't come to me pretending you're a bad ass tough guy and you're going to shoot an intimidate nice people. You're not going to do shit

And if you do you'll be in prison for ever.

Drugs are not dangerous if you know what you are doing... Let's end the drug war

That is not the position. You made that up. Many exception laws and JUDGES exist.

Exactly.

>Humans are born clothed and there was never a time when people did not wear clothes.

To be honest, it's unnatural to wear clothes. Nothing wrong with that, but don't use such bullshit arguments.

If all it takes for a child to get sexually activated is to see other children or adults naked, then children having sexual urges is fairly natural.

And btw, I it *is* very common for children to have sexual desires as long as you don't surpress them.

Also, I'n most cases (excluding rape), the onyl harm resulting from sexual interactions with adults is caused by social rejection of that concept.

Basically: It's wrong because we say it's wrong.

You are pretty ignorant for having such a high opinion about your reasoning.

Should think the age of consent should be 16 at minimum. Anyways kids make stupid decisions, a 12 year old can't say: "I like watching people drive in cars so I should be allowed to also drive cars!". Theres also alot of danger that could be involved in this, there are many pedos that have weird fantasies about hurting/doing weird shit to kids then imagine what would happen if having sex with a 12 year old was legal.

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How do you not understand to leave the children alone?

No, I'm a progressive in California and I think society is degrading and in the midst of a transformation - largely fueled by the belief many hold that society is collapsing. I think that we are not our ancient ancestors and we need not go the same path as them. We will though, if we make all the same mistakes.

If this is an argument against OPs statement, then you are absolutely retarded...

The war on drugs causes more deaths and costs more money than legalizing all drugs would ever do.

The only reason the war has not ended is the fear of ignorant fucks like you.

remember when vaporizers came about and campuses immediately had to start banning them because they were everywhere and half of people had no good sense to moderate?

it's wrong because there are assholes who just need an excuse, once you give it you can't take it back.

you aren't concerned for children at all, just getting your progressive tunnelvision rocks off.

You are classing EVERYONE as the same lol that’s simply not true at all.

If you are forcing anyone to do do some shit they don't want to do, that is not consensual. 12yo are easy to abused, but that doesn't mean every sexual relationship between a teen and an adult is an abuse.

be-because... all the benefits to s-society from having sex w-with kids?

>I am obviously smarter than lawmakers. also I crunched numbers that have never existed

holy fuck a smart person

GODSPEED

Age of consent laws exist to protect children that have not matured to the extent where they understand the contract to which they are agreeing when engaging in sexual activity with an adult. Some children, admittedly, have the maturity to do so. But most children under 16 do not. Thus, in most civilized countries, 16 is the age of consent, because 16 is the typical age where the large majority of children understand sex and its role in social interactions. Age of consent also protects children from predatory grooming to a reasonable extent. It's not 100% perfect, but it's not the primary consideration.

this is all completely accurate

Kek
>things that never happened

Just saying that the possibility and likeliness of some kids being tricked into doing weird shit is too high.

You realize laws are not made by reasoning, but by mob culture, right? It was illigal to be gay and still is in some shitholes, so yes, my friend, I think I'm smarter than lawmakers in this regard.

Go look up shit for yourself, I'm not google. I'm not gonna go into a extended discussion on Yea Forums im sorry, I just saw this thread and wanted to point some things out. If I made you curious, start your research.

Is any loli in this thread who fucked adult when she was around 8-11? Please share your story.

>But most

All experts claim falsely that they know what most of what ever group may be thinking.

Then when there is a deviation from that they are surprised and claim I never suspected he/she would do that.

What we have truly discovered is that no one know anything about the mindset of others.

Speak as an expert about your own body (Which is barely believable.)

Leave others to their own bodies (Until there is a complaint.)

Once someone complains about what is being done to them there should be a concern. Prior to that? MYOB.

Anyone is smarter than these old fucks

AOC laws exist to allow parents to exploit their children and make property of them.

Unless there are options and choices? This is little more then slavery or bullying.

Emancipation is not even a legal option until in most states the child reaches the age of 14.

You mean smarter than the same idiots that outlawed alcohol at the beginning of the century? Yes, I think I can reach that level.

>We can't know what other people are feeling
>Because we don't know how our actions might harm others, our actions are not harmful

It should be obvious when that is happening. What I'm against is some men going to jail for decades because they had sex with a 14yo girl even if the girl is defending them.

Most children can't take care of themselves or provide for their own interests. Most children do not have reasonable expectations or understanding of what is in their own best interest. Children are overwhelmingly a cost, and not an asset. Dowries and arranged marriages are extremely rare in the western world, and children choose their own partners 99 times out of 100. So your belief that children are slaves to their parents is moronic.

>moronic.

A Yea Forumstard calling others that is ironic.

The point was perfectly valid.

Even if they're old enough to have sexual desires, they're still not old enough to be fully mentally developed, and therefore do not have fully developed decision making skills. Even in cases where the children are even just 11, they can still get pregnant and kids are not mature enough to make the decision to do something that can end in a pregnancy.

Voluntary safe sex is not harmless. Even if condoms and other safety precautions are used, pregnancies and the transfer of STI's can still occur, and you're leaving out that even voluntary safe sex can be addictive. Quite similarly to drugs actually.

There is no excuse for being a pedophile, OP. Go get help instead of trying to justify your sick desires with these retarded arguments.

>literal abduction syndrome is ok
LMAO

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To me it is not so much about consent, and whether you have ti be a certain age to give it in an informed way, but rather the uneven power dynamic between children and adults.

That, by the way, is my answer to the paradox raised by . There was no unequal power dynamic between two children like there is between a child and an adult.

It's the same reason that flirtatious or seductive behavior is OK between two patrons in a bar, but raises issues when it happens between a CEO and an intern.

and once it wasn't we needed a pill to prevent the spread of HIV kek.

oh yeah... NOOOO harm there!

>get help

There is no help.
No cure.
Mandatory reporting.

Get fucked, you hypocrite.

>hypocrite

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It means he has expectations of others that he could not live with himself.

Most Christians do this with homosexuals.

"Just don't have sex!"

Fine by your own code be it.

Sex should be illegal for all with out testing and a license. Age should have no bearing.

your argument is so bad i suddenly support pedophilia

While I see your point, you are reducing everything to just a power play narrative.
While this is important to our life’s, work and sometimes sex, it’s not everything...
And can’t always be applied absolutely to this particular hypothetical.

These threads are just circle jerks of pedos trying to justify their desires to eachother like the fucked up incels they are, it's almost funny lol

at what age do you get a license for coercion and do you have to take classes?

That's funny because I am a pedophile.

The funny thing is your pathetic response to it with 0 arguments you fucking faggot

>Voluntary safe sex is not harmless. Even if condoms and other safety precautions are used, pregnancies and the transfer of STI's can still occur, and you're leaving out that even voluntary safe sex can be addictive. Quite similarly to drugs actually.

STDs and pregnancy is not the reason society is against it. That would actually make sense. The reason for it being illegal is just the pure moral stupidity of considering sex something morally harmful.

In a legal sense it boils down to motive. We assume children wanting to explore sexually don't have ulterior motives and thus aren't capable of coercion in such a context. This isn't 100% accurate, but it's not like we can be definitive in any case. Similarly, we assume pedophile adults do have ulterior motives and thus are coercing - even if they don't realize it. This also is not always the case, but it can't be proven definitively, and it's better for society to err on the side of child safety.

I see more people trying to justify the reason for throwing men in jail for having consensual sex. I don't see the circlejerk, fag.

18 year olds are only old enough to have sexual desires if they have been acclimated to sex. You can introduce sex to any 18 year old of any age. That is where the first harm comes from. Its literally a form of shock to a 18 year old's brain. If you want to get all lusty over a 19 or 20 year old, thats fine because tbh they are pretty much women by that point.

The problem is you sickos wanna fuck like 18 year olds and thats a major problem both psychologically and physically. Stop it. Its a 18 year old. There is nothing sexy about a 18 year old's body and it you sexualize 18 year olds, you need to be put to sleep. They are innocent and give zero shits about being licked and boned. Only you do you selfish bastards.

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>circlejerkers can't see their own echo chamber

huge fuckin surprise

>better to err on child safety

Exactly. Arguments against this are of ulterior motive

You are the one in a circlejerk.

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What's really funny is that you get so little pussy that your only recourse is to rape little children who can't understand what you're doing. How does it feel to be inferior?

>anything outside of child sex research turns into gradeschool fite

yeah this guy is in it to be progressive

>How does it feel to be inferior?
Asks a poster to Yea Forums?
How very ironic.

Yeah I agree with you there, in my country maximun jail time is 24 years and the justice system is not that broken as the one in US.

how does it feel to have fucked less women than pedophiles have fucked children?

yeah you're mad

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Fucking THIS

You don't need to find justification to put pedos in jail, you already have it.

Pedo detected

Yes, how does it feel to suck at reproduction so much that you have to gawk at actual children online, to the point that the average inbred on Yea Forums is superior.

Sure, but writing laws is of necessity an exercise in some degree of generalization. They have to apply across society.

>you're mad
Mad being mildly amused at your pitifulness?

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He’s talking about children when they start puberty you fuck tard

i got groomed when i was 14 and it gave me emotional trauma, depression and trust issues. stop trying to justify pedophilia because children cant and shouldnt consent