Why don't liberals let immigrants live with them?

Why don't liberals let immigrants live with them?

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gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls
cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/ss/ss6713a1.htm
cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm
thedailybeast.com/migrant-woman-miscarried-baby-boy-in-ice-custody
chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/05/04/chicago-is-the-most-segregated-city-in-america-analysis/
cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
nap.edu/catalog/23550/the-economic-and-fiscal-consequences-of-immigration
itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-state-local-tax-contributions-2017/
youtu.be/m60cCGEFg_g?t=177
bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-federal-taxes-an-explainer/
latimes.com/local/california/la-me-san-francisco-election-immigration-20181026-story.html
npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote
healthpolicy.ucla.edu/publications/Documents/PDF/undocumentedreport-aug2013.pdf
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

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because there isn't enough room in their parents' basement for them *and* the immigrants.

Someone post the Cher tweets

Why don't conservatives build the wall themselves?

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Can I write them off and pay no taxes on my meager paycheck (My taxes were increased this year, although Trump said otherwise) like the Multi-billion dollar company Amazon?

Them complaining when Trump said ship them to the sanctuary cities was brilliant. That did more to prove Trump's point than he ever could.

Also what happened to the US giving money to Auto companies to stay in the US with their jobs, but instead they used that money to automate thousands of jobs away which will never appear again?

We literally paid welfare to a company to get rid of jobs.

I do, lol. Rent out a room to a Mexican.

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I didn't hear any complaining. I did read from several lawyers how illegal that is though.

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For the same reason why don’t conservatives adopt more children out of the system.

Hypocrisy.

>I didn't hear any complaining
Turn off TYT.

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Why don't we get mad at companies for hiring illegals? We get mad at the illegals like they hired themselves or something.

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Reads only 1/3 of my comment.
Typical right winger.

So...you have no answer. K.

>doesn't understand how capitalization impacts taxes
>literally lacks education to discuss what they're arguing about
>actual liberal logic

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Brevity, faggot.

Never mind what he said; talk is cheap.
What did he do?

>So...you have no answer.
Neither, apparently, do you.

Better yet, why don't they let the free market build the wall?

Okay. Hypothetical Situation.

We are rounding up literally every illegal and deporting them. Regional and local economies are crashing due to this.

What do you propose we should do?
If we deported all illegals this would in fact happen especially in the agriculture business.
How would you propose to stabilize the economy and feed Americans with the failing agriculture business than relies on illegals too much?

I rent to lots of illegals. Quite profitable when they have like 8 working adults living together.

Why don't conservatives build the wall? Oh wait...

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>findmyproof.com

I was just being sarcastic since the OP was being sarcastic. That is weird?
I am a CPA so I do understand taxes, especially under Trump as I have been dealing with this for a while now.

What's funny is you talk shit, but you literally have a guy breastfeeding a baby saved on your computer. You post that with a nonsensical response?
>actual conservative logic lmao

democrats are an existential threat to the Republic

Fuck off, kike.

They're even more "racist," than actual "supremacists."

she looks like some kind of insect. A grasshopper or cockroach.

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They do, thats kinda what sanctuary cities are

Troll better and have an actual hot take

Yeah it's funny how intentionally pausing and screenshotting a still frame of a video can show people making funny faces.

I've seen Trump look like a tard in pictures many times! Oh wait. I mean every time.

Boston literally said yeah do it.

Also sanctuary cities arnt even a thing unless illegals are actually there so okay?

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Not in the streets where they literally step over them at the station. I mean actually give them shelter in their homes.

Nice duck though, your hurt is showing.

he means in their houses.. oh I mean apartments because they don’t make any money

Ok now your just pathetic. Have fun

>Has to photoshop symbols from a different time, country, and completely different political ideology to try to throw shade toward AOC.

>Kinda weak man. You could do a much better "meme" than that. It's not even distasteful towards AOC as it makes no sense at all.
Almost like photoshopping a Burger Kings logo over a Walmart. Makes 0 sense.

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>Them complaining
A couple of rich old white dems?

How would you guys even support this? I thought you wanted to get rid of the illegals. And what about the rule of law?? Fuck that, lets just release millions of prisoners on an executive order (which obviously he didn't even have the power to do)

Ha good one!
Might wanna try to get some better photoshopped pics / memes. Your post have more pixels than you have brain cells.

If she started supporting nationalism I would totally suck her toes.

but if we change "AOC" to "Trump" then its ok, amirite?

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Nice ad hom

What does Fred Armisen have to do with your lack of brain cells?

Maybe it’s the fact Trump said he wanted a Muslim registry and echoes other neo Nazi talking points. That’s why /pol/ endorses him.

No it's not. Photoshopping swastikas on Trump is an insult towards Hitler's regime. I'd rather Trump be associated with conservatives.

Well he openly admitted to supporting nationalism so... I mean, I guess he doesn't support socialism but neither did Hitler.
Also pic related, literally a Hitler quote

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CAPITALISM IS IN FAVOR OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. THINK ABOUT IT.

SO REALLY YOU CUCKSERVATIVES BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELVES. HOW STUPID ARE YOU PEOPLE.

Why don't republicans let orphans live with them?

gosh, ikr, it's like, heyyyy lefties, if you don't want to separate immigrant families why don't you share a toothbrush with them?! We Republismarts have our very own toothbrushes and we don't have to share with anyone

where's gun violence on that list?

I don't own land on the border

Why don't conservatives adopt all the babies that they don't want aborted?

because they already live with OP's mother

Thats a pretty stupid logical fallacy.

We're not saying move immigrants into our houses or yours.

We're saying give them the same opportunity to immigrate into the united states that other immigrants have had for the entire history of our country.

They wont need to live in anybody's house because there are currently 18,600,000 vacant homes in the US.

YES!

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Seize the means of housing!

They would. have you seen the wait list for adopting babies?

Can I get a source on that info?

I have 4 credible sources pulled up on 2016 gun deaths in the US that show 37,000 for the year.

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are they including suicide and accidents in the death numbers?

these statistics are false. They provide no citation about what year they were taken from. but gun homicide rates are in the 20,000 if not more in the US every year. Death by abortion never happens unless you're saying the fetus is being killed which you likely are and obesity itself doesn't kill anybody. Heart disease, complications etc do. Anyways yeah your facts arent facts.

Liberal places are among the most racially segregated in the country.

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Also can I get a source on the Abortion muders being higher than Heart Disease?

You do realize those statistics are 100% off.
Heart Disease is by far the #1 killer.
Abortion doesn't even come close to the massive baby boomer population dying from heart attacks. It's not even close.

You are lying with those "statistics"

since there is a feminism reference on the bottom, it's probably showing only stats for females

0iq.

Firearm homicides are ~11,000; total gun deaths are around 33k but 2/3rds of those are suicides

then you've never been to cousinfuckin alabama

SI
SIIIIIII
Elian can staaaay....

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Per wiki (from CDC stats)
638,169 Abortions in 2015

In terms of heart disease deaths per year per CDC
610,000 (CDC, NCHS. Underlying Cause of Death 1999-2013 on CDC WONDER Online Database, released 2015. Data are from the Multiple Cause of Death Files, 1999-2013, as compiled from data provided by the 57 vital statistics jurisdictions through the Vital Statistics Cooperative Program. Accessed Feb. 3, 2015.)
The image only said obesity and not all heart disease deaths are from obesity, but yeah that anons image was pretty misleading. The heart disease deaths were for a 4 year period, and im sure its worse now than 2013 due to the SAD diet. That being said theres still more abortion deaths per year than heart disease deaths which is pretty shocking. All this was found in like, 10 seconds of google searching.

>Posts a picture of a SWAP MEET

yeah that will show them that this photo specifically of this location proves that liberal places are the most racially segregated!

By your logic white people don't work?
I only see Hispanics working.
Why don't white people get jobs like them?

you could try this and see everything reported: gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

It's talking about gun homicide. The 20k to 37k number includes all deaths by gun, including accidents and suicides.

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I am literally on the CDC's website regarding 2016 deaths. Heart Disease is the #1 killer.

As per CDC's info: A total of 23,455 infant deaths occurred in 2015 (Includes abortion in there)

Wikipedia is not accurate nor credible.

How are they pathetic? Liberals keep saying we should let all these people into our country, so why don't you let them stay in your home? We're fucking full.

Didn't the sanctuary cities agree to it, but he didn't because Trump's lawyers told him how illegal it is and that the Judaical branch would throw the book at him?

Yep.

Please, liberals don't even want them in their cities, let alone their homes. But on a national scale? SUUUURE, LET THEM ALL IN. GIVE THEM CITIZENSHIPS TOO.

>implying we just won't force you and your fascists friends to forcefully pay into the state in order to fund housing

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cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/ss/ss6713a1.htm

As I said the numbers were FROM the CDC. Not sure what/where you read.

cdc.gov/heartdisease/facts.htm

Theres where I got the heart disease number.

Keep in mind states individually report to the CDC abortion stats, and since several states do not report this info to the CDC these numbers are NOT including those states abortion stats. Those states are

Where exactly did they agree to it? Every single liberal politician called it "dumping". Almost like they're referring to trash.

I was asking for a source as the CDC's report for 2016 literally didn't match at all. I have the 2016 CDC Death report right here. I just wanted to see where he gets his fake news from. lol

Exactly, they want them to be let in as long as they vote democrat and live in red states. That's why they got all butthurt because Trump was going to fuck up their master plan. The people who want them here the most don't live anywhere near them, and if too many hispanics show up they move away.

And to add to this Wikipedia is fine if you are not a retard and check where their sources for information come from, you know, at the bottom where it states the sources and provides and link to verify?

>force

kek, liberals have no force. Maybe if you weren't so scared of guns you might be able to do something, but alas.

Why don't you stop posting?

The ATF would be our first line of defense, and you ain't taking that shit down.

It's all so transparent. Just like Bernie and the rest of the dems saying they'd support the right of people in federal prison to vote. Convicted felons, currently serving their time, being able to vote. Rapists and murderers need their rights.

Of course, they had to reel that one back, but I think the damage was done.

>mAyBe iF U wEreNt so ScArEd oF gUnS
How else do you think leftists are going to kill fascists? lol. Get a clue kiddo

Why does every thread devolve into some gun nut sticking the gun barrel up his fucking ass and licking it like a dog?

Waiting on that response since I linked directly to where I got the information from, or does the CDC report fake news now too?

Luckily you'll never get their support

I always assumed they were trying to do it with shitty chants, beating up trash cans, and bottles full of piss

I guess you have never been to Boston or Philly

In our communities, sure. Just as any other law abiding citizen or aspiring citizen can.

Oh you mean the obvious counterintuitive 'in our own house' BS. LOL

Isn't it past your bedtime, kiddo?

Why would we not get the support of an government agency committed to taking gun nuts like you down?

Kek I'm not even a gun nut, I just like riling people up. Point stands though, leftists like to pretend that they have a chance in a civil war scenario, but they're not the subsection of the populace that's armed.

LOL if you think sjw culture is communism/socialism than you really are some dumbfuck righty.

Consider this: if half the country is supposedly armed, it isn't all just redneck Cletus fuckers user.
>I just like riling people up
so do I

they did win the last civil war

Their goal is to take down criminals, not law-abiding citizens. You don't have the willpower to actually get rid of the second amendment, so we'll never be counted as criminals. I know things are hard to grasp from the left, but it's okay. I'll give you time to catch up.

I know but we were talking about other stuff and all of a sudden someone has to wave around their shit-covered gun barrel so everyone can have a sniff.

Yeah, I mean, all the new blood promoted by SJWs are all socialist or communists, and whenever you go to an anti trump rally or pro left rally theres always a ton of support for both, and most prominent SJW youtubers and media personalities are at least somewhat pro communist/socialist,but yeah, totally not right at all.. my bad. Are you the same guy who asked for CDC stats and then said I made it up then never responded when I posted direct links to both stats I mentioned?

>Just like Bernie and the rest of the dems saying they'd support the right of people in federal prison to vote
Another retarded, far left idea that no one with a fucking brain would support. The idea you're gonna let literal inmates and terrorists vote is the most RIDICULOUS thing I have ever heard in my fucking life. Notice they only cite the constitution when it comes to shit THEY want that benefits democrats, but when it comes to the 1st and 2nd amendment or immigration all of a sudden they ignore it or want it changed.

If stillborns aren't actual deaths according to the concentration camps, why is abortion such a big deal?

thedailybeast.com/migrant-woman-miscarried-baby-boy-in-ice-custody

You wouldn't be law abiding citizens, though. You'd mistakenly think you have recourse to start an incursion against this country, and you'd get taken out.

Ahh, that old myth of the republican party being leftists. kek, nice try but the dems have always been, and still are the party of racists and losers.

If your taxes increased then you are a fucking idiot and screwed something up.

Also private taxes are night and day different than corporate taxes. Don't even try to compare the two.

Nooo, I'm sure there's leagues of blue haired faggots running around with ARs. Probably borrowed them from their wives boyfriends.

user, we don't have to get rid of the 2nd Amendment. It's the gun nuts and the NRA that are interpreting to mean whatever the fuck they want it to mean, basically don't touch my guns.
We have the right as a society to decide which weapons--if any--be added to our "well-regulated militia." The language of the 2nd Amendment is clear to legal types.
Buttfucking sister fuckers with high tech rifles are not gun policy.

Why? They can send them wherever the fuck they want.

Like I said, you're all too weak to actually pass the legislation that you desire, so it really won't be a problem. Leftists are the ones always talking about violent revolt.

AR-15s are so easy to get. Do the math.

>Most prominent SJW youtubers and media personalities
Jesus fuck, GO OUTSIDE LOOOOOOOOOL

We have strong activism on our side, user. First we need to eliminate all private funding of elections. That would cripple the gun lobby significantly. 2ndly start enforcing the laws we have and increasing transparency with gun purchases and ownership. It's called Joining the 21st Century, user.

The statistics you posted was literally 1/3 of what the CDC / GVA reported for gun deaths.
Proved yourself wrong. Kek

The funny thing is, if we as a society decide that we want no restrictions, it won't be good enough for lefties. That's when they go to standing on the graves of children to make their point.

Because they smell bad kek

Is this what you're after?

chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/05/04/chicago-is-the-most-segregated-city-in-america-analysis/

Will you apologize for making such a shamefully obtuse post now?

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Leftist here. Fuck the gun grabbing shit. It should bother you, a lot, how outgunned we are.

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This is where you build an incredible strawman and tell us how good it tastes.

This is what the presence of non-whites does to white communities.

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I do, I live in CA, and most people I work with and am friends with are also pro socialist and communist and open borders (mostly). I figured I would provide things that are not just anecdotal to my personal experiance but possible to verify such as SJW youtubers and media. Sorry im not like you and make basesless claims, sorry I link sources and If I cant provide direct stats (as stats for how many SJWs are also into communism or socialism doesnt exist afaik) then I show examples to explain why I think that.

The truth is you have no counter argument and you know I am right, so all you can do is attempt to insult me with some weak, weak bants.

They only want their votes, and will destroy the country to get them.

Why are these threads so consistently shitty? Between the overly-jpegged facebook memes intended for boomers to the false statistic shitposting and finally the retarded wojak responses to anyone you can't formulate a sensible rebuttal to. These threads are shittier than logposting, and those threads are about literally eating shit.

Thank god for diversity, actually breathed some life into that train lol

Thanks to gun nuts, we don't really know how many people own firearms, just estimates.
And there is every bit of evidence to show that the crazies who vote for idiots like Trump are roughly 25% of this country's population.
Not hard to do the math there either.

Whatever you gotta tell yourself lol Probably some gamergate lookin' ass

The 2 sources I linked didnt even mention gun deaths, and im not sure how gun deaths would factor into abortion rates or heart disease deaths. How about instead of making a claim you qoute how either of the sources i linked have anything to do with gun deaths (Pro tip, they didnt)?

cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm

Heres the gun stats and its not factoring in suicide or accidents. Its still way way lower than either abortion or heart disease. Can all you people do is make up shit?

>Comparing a first class car to a $2 NYC subway ride
Fuck off idiot

>increasing transparency

I'm not even against this, depending on the implementation. I'm all for people being better qualified to use the guns they have.

As for the activism, nah. Your side is shrinking. The self-cannibalizing left will get Trump re-elected in 2020. You'll lose ground on more and more issues. And to be honest, I'm not even thrilled about that. I think there needs to be balance in politics, but the tactics of destroying people's lives by the leftist media is driving more and more people to conservatism.

>there are soshul consequences of being (insert bigot type here) neeeeh

Yeah man, you are so right. Enjoy going through life being wrong and making excuses for it. Itll take you far, im sure.

Well I wish this sentiment would somehow be heard above the fucking din, you know what I mean?

Then let's have one big vote. We can either have zero restrictions on guns, or no guns at all. One vote, then we all shut up about it forever. What do you think would happen?

Are you saying it is legal to let people out of prison? He's not even going to pardon them just let them out. There are countless laws in which the Judaical Branch would have a hayday over being broken.

Dawg that's you though lol MAH IMMIGRANTS TAKIN ME JOBS AND DESTROYING ME WAY OF LIFE. Nah bro, that's you.

>there are soshul consequences of being (insert bigot type here) neeeeh
Shouldn't there be? It's so easy to not be bigoted.

>As for the activism, nah. Your side is shrinking.
Not really. We realize we have our work cut out for us. First we have to get a Senate majority. But before then there will very likely be another violent shooting where the NRA and the gun nuts stifle the dialogue again and this time people are going to demand more direct action since government isn't stepping in to protect the people.

> For the same reason Replicants won't let them live with them.

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If the government didn't steal money to give to underprivileged millennials to study inter-dimensional gender theory, we could have the wall :).

I agree, we need more rational voices in the discussion on both sides. I honestly think we'll get there soon. It's not exactly clear how soon, but I do see signs of hope peeking through all the shit.

Btw, nice trips. Also, you taught me a new phrase. "Above the din" Thanks for that.

>introducing an enormous influx of low wage workers has no effect

Enjoy importing your permanent underclass like the capitalists want.

I'd rather we progress and evolve to the point of where there isn't this kind of gun hysteria we're seeing now, and that people are ok with there being less weapons as a whole in society. I don't want your either/or shit.

Who said anything about immigrants? I never did, nor do my stances on immigration have to do with jobs. I like how you are assuming everything about what I think, and are so wrong. I only said anything because I was bored and decided to fact check that anons picture, and even said in my response it was misleading and not correct. Unlike you bruh I verify information and dont just make up assume or trust shit I hear.

Do me a favor and scroll to the very tippy top of the thread you mongoloid lol

Why don't Republicans create a nation-wide program to adopt all unwanted children so noone needs to abort babies anymore?

>Threads can't be derailed
Found the newfag

>above the din
That's just what one of those useless English major thingees taught me how to do. Glad you enjoyed it.

Of course there should be. The problem is when you overapply that label, which the left is doing more and more frequently. It's getting to the point of them self-cannibalizing. There was that Canadian professor who almost got fired because she dared to show a clip of Jordan Peterson. She was accused of being a nazi. She's a goddamn liberal herself, totally disagrees with Jordan, but she DARED to allow free speech.

>It hasn't been derailed yet.
You're the fake news fag.

This.

I agree, that would be great, but the world just isn't that safe yet. My two cents, we should err on the side of having our protection, until we're 100% certain the danger is gone. Until we rid the world of all evil people, we need a way to defend from them.

Why don't American Liberals go and live to Central and South America? Or to the Middle East? Or Africa? They love colored people so much, and yet I wonder.

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Holy shit you are sounding dumber and dumber the more you respond.I responded to someone saying an info graphic was wrong with the stats from CDC. It showed both that the image was incorrect but also not by much. This is not the main point of the OP. Hence it was derailed. You hopped into the back and forth I had then randomly bring up OP as if that had anything to do with what I was saying. Can you follow simple fucking logic? lmfao

>Fake news! Fake news!
Lol

They already have that dumbass. Why do you think they adopt so many asian and african babies?

Trips of Truth

Not all Republicans are against abortion. I think it's eugenic and helps maintain our white majority as non-whites get abortions disproportionately.

Hmm, would it be inappropriate to make a barista joke?

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Paid democrats shills hate this, they're gonna hit ya with their best come back memes in 3... 2... 1...

CaliforniaFag here too
Can confirm am socialist, Am anti border, am mexican but my family was on this land before it was america.

Most of the assholes here posting the false facts are immigrants but are too stupid to realize it.

Truth

^this^
Most of the shithole countries have crazy wealth but not one libtard will ask. Why dont they take care of their own poeple?

I said this to my liberal friend once and he said "because I'd rather not get shot".

Fucking bullshit. You made me reply, you were so wrong, you cunt

Sounds like you and me disagree on a lot, but it also sounds like you are sincere. Wish more people were like you so I could have conversations and who knows, maybe be convinced to change my mind on some issues.

Get back to work, Jose. Your family is the rape babies of disgusting Spaniards

people seeking asylum are doing so LEGALLY by coming to a point of entry THE BORDER and applying for asylum. There is a due process. We are required to follow as a part of the united nations. Having their kids taken from them as a deterrent is illegal and a violation of international code of ethics

Immigrant here. I got a conservative blonde hair blue-eyed white girl doing her part, allowing me to live with her. Whom I also fuck on a daily basis. Her dad is pissed.

Wait, you're a conservative in CA? I'M A CONSERVATIVE IN CA. IS THAT YOU JUSTIN??

>things that totally happened

A liberal who proposed a rational question at the start of the thread who was ignored by the right wingers posting "memes" / "hur durr libs r dumb" who aren't helping or being constructive at all.

>t. pic related

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Believe what you want man

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Orphans. An estimated 153 million children worldwide are orphans (UNICEF).

On any given day, there are nearly 443,000 children in foster care in the United States.

Fewer U.S. women are having abortions than at any time since Roe v. Wade, according to new government figures released Wednesday. In 2015, the most recent year for which data is available, a total of 638,169 abortions were reported, a decrease of 2 percent from 652,639 abortions in 2014.


If the right genuinely thought abortion was murder it would be trivial for them to start adopting unwanted children. In reality abortion is just a useful tool for getting people out to vote so noone will ever solve the problem.

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I would fap but there's the ugly face of AOC staring at ne.

>expecting constructive arguments
>on an anonymous basketweaving forum
>i shiggy diggy

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Show me on the Zuckerberg where the evil right wingers hurt you

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blacks are disgusting savages

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>trivial
>adoption
What a batshit insane thing to say.

I'll tell you what's trivial, wearing a condom. Leftists want to have unprotected sex and then commit murder to avoid responsibility. Of course they convince themselves it's not murder, but it is. Well too bad, life matters to some of us.

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Abortions are human death? Why not tumor removals?

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That's a block from where I used to live in Baltimore I think

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I'm a conservative myself guys. This is the only question on mass deportation I have myself.
Idgaf about walmart running out of food for foodstamps for illegals, but what about people paying with cash? There will still be a economic / food shortage mess on our hands.

It won't affect me much as I have a stockpile of food / a farm.

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Why are republicans so stupid?

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Honest question for White Americans. Why do you love so much black and low tier caca skins to take this shit?

I'm not White or American. There is a myriad of things I could tell you why my country is a corrupt shithole, has violence, crime, all that. But -- allegedly -- you are a vastly superior society, with the best minds in the world. What gives?

I am not advocating violence from your part either. But isn't there an out-of-the-box solution. Clearly you guys can't get along, and still you love to live together all cuddly in the fantasy myth of the melting pot.

Tumors aren't a unique set of DNA created from two gametes. They also won't become a sentient being if left alone.

But of course, I just took your bait. There's no way you're actually stupid enough to make that argument.

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I wish I could catch one doing this.

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I can tell you're not white. Your writing is fucking awful.

> I live in a Gated Community.

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Not all of us want to deport everyone right away, and its not possible. I agree if it was possible and we did it there would be negative ramifications, but do not think it would crash regional and local economies. Most of the people employing large amounts of illegals are not small businesses and would be able to take the hit fine for the most part. The most you would see is a price in goods go up mostly in the agriculture and garment industries.

To counter this hit I would suggest reducing taxes and regulations on businesses, especially focused on smaller businesses and start ups. I would also reduce spending on government programs, and propose completely eliminating many of the pre-existing government programs at both the federal and state level. I would require that for religious institutions to keep their tax exempt status, they have to show that a certain percentage of their income is going to welfare programs for their local communities. I would also look into the incestuous relationship between the medical and insurance industries, which if fixed would allow a true market for the medical field and eventually save Americans a ton of money. I would also reduce regulations on drugs, make marijuana legal federally with a large tax on it.

I mean these are just some ideas, but I didnt even mention that the cost of illegals per year right now is massive. Deleting that cost from welfare programs, school programs, law enforcement programs, etc would be a massive net gain in itself which would help cushion the ideas I previously mentioned.

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He made an astute point.

Dumb niggers and spics use abortions as birth control.
Whats your point?

Theres a response. Didnt see it and didnt really care about this thread until I got sucked into debating CDC stats, lul. None of these ideas are something I thought out for long because its a silly base hypothetical, but are some general ideas on how to respond to the issue proposed.

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They don't need more illegals voting Dem in California; they need illegals voting Dem in Texas...

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illegal immigrants pay more into taxes than they take out.

Minorities get on fine, I work with plenty, you don't even think about it after meeting them. It's just white supremacist types that are really upset that multiculturalism works fine the majority of the time, and try to drum up racial acrimony.

You can write off a ton of shit. But you just don’t. Cause you won’t incoporate yourself because corporations are bad.

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Stop flexing your English 102 pseudointellectualism. Doesn't work in people who are actually intelligent.

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Is like to read that too. But it probably doesn’t exist

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Why adopt a liberals derelect kid when we can make our own superior kids?

Sometimes they make good music?

But really, it's just a result of slavery. They all became citizens once slavery ended. If they want to leave of their own volition, they're free to, but it's not like Africa has anything to offer them.

That's actually America's biggest strength and our biggest hardship. None of us are from here, except the natives, but they're mostly dead. So everyone has an immigrant story withing a few generations. All those cultures in one place, it causes clashes. But then there are times like after 9/11, when we all come together as Americans. It's a beautiful thing. Just sucks it takes violence to inspire it.

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An American is an American, no matter their skin color.

Keep them coming, this is appreciated and are being saved for further distro user.

-op

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Why don't conservatives let mass shooters live with them?

The illegals in Texas aren’t dem though. Unless you’re talking about that faggot city Austin

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Trump also approves of employing illegal immigrants, until he's caught of course.

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^^^Complete lie^^^^
They all claim 9 dependents and get back more than they ever put in.
So try some other Libtard lies CNN tells you

Because they don’t want democratsivjng with them

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Democrats

So I asked a question and both are the kind of answers I always hear from Americans:

Why the go pro? Niggers really are retarded

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Eh, it's racists in general. Not just whites. There's a growing trend of racism against white people these days. Rather, it's becoming more acceptable on the left.

And before anyone says it, no racism is not prejudice plus systemic power. It's just racism. Stop it.

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So abortion is murder but if the choice is between murder or adopting kids, the right chooses murder.

Literally all it would take to end the mass genocide of children in the USA would be for the right to enact a "No Children Without Families" law and start providing real homes for unwanted babies. Where is the Christian empathy?

Spics are taught that birth control is sin due to them all being converted catholics thanks to white Europeans.

Also you are conveniently ignoring the fact nearly half the abortions in the USA are for white women.
If the right hates abortion why don't they take unwanted children into their homes?

What a surprise. Trump supports are racist retards.

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Source? This is not true at all, and really hard to measure. How do you accurately see how much tax revenue is brought in by people who are here illegally and typically dont report it and try to hide it? How do you see how much they use? Even if what you said was correct, it was the last thing I brought up after explaining many other things we could do to counteract this hypothetical that would never happen and isnt what I personally am for.

Even if it ended up a harsh upfront cost to us, it would still be worth it for the same reason Brexit is going to initially be hard on the UK but be best in the end. I dont personally think the cure for our immigration issue is to instantly and magically deport all illegals, but to continue deporting people at a reasonable rate while increasing border security as well as tracking of people here on work visas and greencards (IE more funding for the departments involved). I think the immigration issue is best solved over time by reducing the amount of people who are illegal being able to get in and stay and while at the same time deporting people who are the worst of the illegals who are currently here (IE committing other crimes aside from being here illegally). Hell im even open to a pathway to citizenship for people that have been here 10, 15 years or whatever who have not had criminal activity while here and have been good while living here. Saying we should deport all illegals is as unrealistic as saying we should bad all guns.

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illegals are not claiming 9 dependents wtf are you on about? Illegals literally are inelligible for most government funded programs and yet pay into them.

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To truly defeat an enemy, first turn them into an object of ridicule. Then strip them of their defenses. Then convince them they need you.

It's the same tactic abusive men use on women. Just on a sociological scale with whites in general.

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A pretty lame attempt to break up that scrap.

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blame everyone but yourself
Total Libcuck bullshit as the norm

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You guys really don't understand how much the illegals have gotten into the agri business.
ALL, not some, but ALL farmers I know employ illegals. Them talking about what a mass deportation would do to the food chain supply led me into expanding my farm by several acres and start prepping.

We are waaaay over reliant on illegals with modern stores much more than you'd think.

Even the food processing end is full of them.
We lose even 1/4th of all illegals and there will be massive food shortages for all I kid you not.

To add on to this I have worked but for state agencies and about 6 years in banking. I have first hand seen what illegals do with their money, and a huge, HUGE majority is sent to family back at the country they are from. Its very common for people to come here illegally, work for 4+ years while sending money home to support their family (the money goes a long way in some of these countries) until they either get deported or are able to bring family here. Sometimes they just go back home too when their family was able to save enough to no longer need them to be here. This is effectively funneling money out of our country that will not be reinvested into our country.

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Illegals pay into no programs because they are not legally capable of being taxed. You have absolutely zero concept of reality.

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So monkey cheap shots guy and what you want me to take from it

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Tumours don't have brains, a central nervous system, endocrine system, etc... They aren't the product of a sperm cell fusing with an egg. I hope to God you're baiting and you're not really this retarded.

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that's really the biggest problem; it'll be impossible to get 100% of the land necessary without eminent domain. the funds for it could easily be raised by a gofundme. the one started by that disabled veteran is at $22 million, and that's with people expecting tax dollars to pay for it

Shhh dont use facts!!!

Ive worked for the Department of Labor before for around 6 years. Im pretty aware of this. Im also aware of how often those same workers are abused, and how often they are stuck in sharecropper like conditions and arrangements or for the girls and woman are forced into the sex trade or cleaning industries. This is why I said even if it was a net cost to our economy its morally and ethically the right thing to do, not just for our country but for the sheer amount of illegals that are exploited in horrible ways.

No, but I remember lots of people got pissed off at Clinton, both red and blue umbrella parties.
Remember when Clinton got impeached for lying to Congress? With no other crime but LYING TO CONGRESS.

While I get your point, this is not fully true and I think its important to be accurate. A lot do pay taxes, underneath stolen SS numbers.

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you do realize illegal aliens can't vote right?
They can't collect social security
they can't collect wellfare.
Those are all lies you believe told to you by alex jones and fox news. but they aren't true, provably.

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Its a pretty well documented fact that illegal immigrants pay federal, state, and sales taxes, they have to if theyre not self employed. And yet cannot take money out of the system like most other americans. in other words illegals are paying into things like social security etc, without any way of getting that money back.

this is the study:
nap.edu/catalog/23550/the-economic-and-fiscal-consequences-of-immigration

If you cant get behind the paywall,
itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-state-local-tax-contributions-2017/
(unfortunately this study is only for state and local taxes but the point remains)

If you dont want to believe studies then theres no point in talking to you because youll just dismiss everything i say

Cool non-statement.

I havent had an abortion or failed to use protection.

I understand the facts are hard to deal with but at some point you need to acknowledge the dissonance in your claims.

Either abortion is murder and adopting children is a small sacrifice to end it.

OR abortion is not murder and it is just an issue brought out to rile you up and get you to the polls.

Why doesn't the right take unwanted babies into their own homes if they hate abortion so much?

If they pay taxes they file at the end of the year and get it back.
One tax place in ATL paid out tens of millions to illegals by doing fake BS tax returns for them. Go look it up yourself. Dumb Libfag

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They literally do, shows how much conservatives know about immigration when they dont know basic facts about illegal immigrants paying into federal and state taxes through stolen SS and other means.

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I couldn't imagine that breast milk being in any way healthy for that child...

Theres a difference between cant vote and shouldnt be able to vote.

Illegals vote legally in some country sized elections already, but illegally vote a ton as do dead people and people vote in states they have moved out of years and years earlier.. lol. Social security is rare, but welfare is not. Stolen SS numbers, and a lot of states do not require you to prove citizenship to take advantage of not just welfare but state programs. Im the guy who said he had worked for the DOL for like 6 years. We actively protected people who were illegal, and had meetings on how to deal with ice and sneak them out. Do you know how much it costs for 1 person to file a labor despite of any kind with our office? Those are all tax dollars being spent my friend...

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>I'm selling 5 gallon pails of Survival food to survive the Apocalypse because I'm helping to cause the Apocalypse.
-Jimmy Baker

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There's just one theme with conservatives, it always comes back to scary black people. Even in the middle of an immigration thread. Conservatives are the most scared people on the planet.

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They use stolen SS. I work in payroll. You have no fucking clue on this. Stay on a college campus dumbass

90's Lindsey Graham literally called for impeachment as a palate cleanser

youtu.be/m60cCGEFg_g?t=177

I hear ya but there simply are way too many jobs they have that actual americans won't do.
We get rid of them and there won't be no food in Walmart for us. It will die in the fields or spoil at the processing end. There is no way to recoup at this level of capitalism that we have.
I'm scared for the other white folk who would starve if this happened.

Post sources to support your claims or crawl out, defeated.

You honestly believe this.

If there was Christian empathy, you would complain about that also

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Why dont you take illegals into your home?

If everyone that voted for Trump in 2016 gave $80, we'd have the $5 billion we need

Other than, "the internets told me so", I bet you can't back up one single claim in your regurgitation with proven examples.

Proof that Trump himself knowingly employed illegals?

Lmao, this dude its literally common knowledge retard, but here ill spoonfeed the baby

bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/how-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-federal-taxes-an-explainer/

Why dont you build the wall by hand?

It shouldn't matter if he knowingly did it.
He is the Boss and his subordinate's actions should reflect on him.

Why don't we get mad at the companies who don't hire americans, but hire illegals? We get mad at illegals because they hired themselves?

>It shouldn't matter if he knowingly did it.
The law says otherwise, faggot.

I had 5 brothers give me new ss with different last names from the first SS they had. So yes that just fucking happened and they all claim the max on dependents. Im sorry you cant come to terms with the real world

unknowingly*

Why don't we get mad at the companies who don't hire americans, but hire illegals? We get mad at illegals because they hired themselves?

>Why don't we get mad at the companies who don't hire americans, but hire illegals?
WTF are you talking about, you dumb nigger. ICE goes after companies that break the aw (knowingly hire illegals) all the time.

Even if every single one was abusing the system, it would still not make up for the amount they pay into SS, and other government taxes, with no chance of seeing that money back

please tell me she got busted for this.

Why don't we get mad at the companies who don't hire americans, but hire illegals? We get mad at illegals because they hired themselves?

Why don't WE, not ICE, WE, these fucking companies are stealing our jobs.

They literally dont, or at the very least very rarely do. Theyre main focus is on immigrants not those who hire immigrants. This is one of the main controversies over ICE. They occasionally, very rarely do, but most of the time they just go over immigrants.

Because those companies aren't shitting out welfare anchor babies that use school resources.
Because those companies are killing and raping Americans.
Because those companies aren't refusing to speak English.

They are refusing to speak english. I have to say UNO in the phone to my local walmart to speak to someone who talks english

ICE has different division, numb nuts. ICE's priorities, as determined by Congress, is to find and deport criminal aliens and then detain and deport aliens apprehended by Border Patrol. Below that is Employer Sanctions, alien smuggling, etc.

Are you saying that you don't want their #1 priority to be removing alien drunk drivers, child molesters, and gangbangers?

>killing raping americans
Illegal Immigrants are significantly less likely to commit crime than the average american
>Use up school resources
All studies show that immigrants put much more into the system than they take out, in fact if anyone is a leech on the system, its natural born citizens.

They get way more back than they put in. im sorry you cant understand this. the only taxes they pay are on the beer they buy. have you ever been to a hospital and see all the illegals using it as a doctors office. And they dont pay one red cent on that as well

illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crime than the average american.

^^all lies^^
stop watching CNN

latimes.com/local/california/la-me-san-francisco-election-immigration-20181026-story.html

LA times isnt exactly right wing.

npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

NPR isnt either. That was about 5 seconds and googling and if i wasnt busy Im sure I could find more sources if you dont trust those for some reason. I was mostly skimming for sources left leaning.

Nice strawman, pendejo.
Besides, you don't know that, you spic faggot. The Bureau of Justice Statistics doesn't collect that information.

I watch FOX and they showed that Illegals are less likely to break the law on there. That's why its hard to catch them

Libtard cities dont even report illegals crime numbers. They would scare the shit out of normal Americans

Dubz has spoken.

I forgot to ask, I proved 2 things I claimed were happening are happening, so what did I win in this bet exactly? lol. Also please dont act like im some right wing shill, I corrected a guy earlier who said illegals dont pay taxes. I just like people to be honest when discussing important issues.

Its worse than that. All state agencies are directed to help them as much as possible and to hinder federal immigration departments as much as possible.

>posts one video of an aggressive asshole who also appears to be black

BLACKS ARE ALL THE SAME REEEEEEE

Im not sure what hospitals youre going to, and how you know all the people there are illegal. But immigrants literally cant get care unless they go to the emergency room, and will likely get deported after going there, even if theyre not, im not sure how these illegal immigrants are paying for the outrageously expensive medical costs considering how difficult it is to get health insurance if youre an illegal immigrant.
Source: healthpolicy.ucla.edu/publications/Documents/PDF/undocumentedreport-aug2013.pdf