Hang on, the left keeps telling me tax cuts on the rich don’t create jobs

Prove him wrong then.

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It wasn't him that kept saying that employment figures were lies?

same here, but i'm sure the redneck morons only see what they want to see.

i support trump but still you gotta admit quantity of jobs doesn't mean people's pay goes higher

>Now i am sitting in my house.
>That i paid cash for

>That i paid cash for(sic)

If even remotely true *its not* then you are fucking retarded and bad, bad, no good, and hilariously stupid with money...

you are a fucking poor fag
Im stupid with money because i have a place to live and no rent to ever pay?
You must live in gubament housing.
Sorry you are a poor libtard fag

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>I hate Trump so much for no reason

- NPCs, 2019

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These poor fags hate facts

If only the cost of living also didn't go up. Why do you defend a retard that has done nothing for you at all?

>done nothing for you at all?

Lowered my taxes
Protected my rights
Defeated ISIS
Told the Globalist to go fuck themselves
Defending the border

The list goes on and on

You only hate Trump because the TV tells you too. Every time I prove your point wrong, you move the goal posts.

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You guys are so fucking obsessed with her. She must really scare someone over there in your retard echo chamber.

Venezuela is the most oil rich country in the world.
They followed the commie econ. ways you poor fags cry about
Now the women are selling their bodies for food.
Being a libtard is a mental disorder

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>believing the liar-in-chief
Oh my fucking god, that shitlord has been in for over two years and you still believe his easily disproven bullshit?

You're too dumb to have an opinion.

He’s a tiny dick faggot Hollywood gameshow host that lies and steals and you’re a cuck.

>counts gig/"contractor" jobs like Uber driver that don't have benefits
>counts people with degrees working at McDonald's without benefits
>doesn't count people who have given up looking for work
>labor force participation rate at an all time low

The number of people who are looking for work but can't find it is down because the number of people looking for work is down. I'm a working age American who would take a job if I could get a job that was worth my time, but I've given up looking, so I'm not counted, and the number of people in the U.S. like me is at an all time high. The "jobs" that are being created are menial crap that don't provide health insurance, don't lead anywhere, and don't pay a living wage.

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also
>LOLHILARYLIEDTOO
You're damn right she did. Too bad we didn't have any other candidates to vote for president at all. Yeah, TOO FUCKING BAD THERE WASN'T TWO GODDAMN OTHER SUPERIOR CHOICES FROM SOME OTHER PARTIES THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN VOTED FOR, WHAT A FUCKING SHAME.

>If only the cost of living also didn't go up.

Wages have increased faster than cost of living.

Why don't you want America to be great?

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yep, looking real good right about now *sips*

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confirmed for retard who actually believes the orange dictator did those things for him. lmao

So you admit that you have no real reason to hate Trump?

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Yes, I bet you wish you had it. Were you implying something else?

Its scary because shes a fucking moron and libtard woke libtards voted for her
You are the ones crying about Trump telling each other fairy tales on CNN

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Took a few years to wipe Obunga's stains off the White House. Chart doesn't show 2019 where there is an explosion of job growth under Trump.

Learn how to read a graph.

It was dropping for decades, and it has held steady since Trump took office.

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>finds a graph of unemployment since 2000
>steadies out around the time Trump becomes president
Good point bud
Yea, Trump's also making the homeless rate in London go up, hell yea!
>pic related

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How about get a skill? If you cant get a decent job now a days you're an excon or not trying.

You are obsessed with other mans cock
What a triggered libtard fag you are

>lies and steals
>no real reason
You are now no longer allowed to have an opinion. Shut your fucking mouth, stop voting, and let people with intelligence run things.

>Trusting Donald "10,000 lies" Trump, the 45th President
Ow, my sides.

>people with intelligence

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Nah dawg the burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

>pic definitely not related

>Defeated ISIS

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Anyone else find it funny that the NPC meme now just looks like a reaction face for Trump dick-riders? They've gone full circle.

i wasn't saying that the labor force participation has dropped since trump was elected you fucking spergs. look at the op picture "the job report released today has unemployment at LOWEST level in nearly 50 years!" the point of my post was to say that the unemployment figure is fucking useless, but you guys are so ready to argue about shit that you just made a straw man immediately upon seeing that picture and attacked it.

There's no way that graph should start at 0

washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/03/us-economy-added-jobs-april-unemployment-fell-percent-lowest-since/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0d46418385f8

>U.S. unemployment fell to 3.6 percent, lowest since 1969

Any rebuttal there smart guy?

I have an AS degree and I earn 12.50 and hour. I feel like you are either a high school kid bragging about your "chosen" field or you are an old timer who probably hasn't had to shop for a job since the 80s. real talk, no BS even tho this is Yea Forums.

>FRONDALD LUMFFF
Youve been this way for 4 years now, you need to stop, the next 4 aint gonna be great if you dont.

A trend that was started under Obama. Trump just inherited Obama's good economy. Obama inherited Bush's bad economy then repubs and then they blamed the economy on Obama. Trump inherits Obama's good economy and they thank Trump

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meant to tag this sperg too

cnn.com/2019/03/23/middleeast/isis-caliphate-end-intl/index.html

>ISIS has lost its final stronghold in Syria, the Syrian Democratic Forces says

You were saying?

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If Obama made the same tweet, I guarantee you wouldn’t be carrying out such stringent requirements to confirm the claim.

>pulling out bullshit just because they can't take two goddamn minutes to reasearch actual fucking unbiased facts on the internet (i.e. not told by Dumbass In Chief or Fox News -- FN by the way actually got permission from the FCC to fucking make up shit and call it news when that has been prohibited for fucking forever -- fair and balanced, my fucking ass)

Join an union learn a trade. No college education. 5 year apprenticeship and now make 100k a year. Plus amazing retirement.

LMAO

that is correct.

Bullshit, Obama was a fucking liar too, I sure didn't vote for his dishonest ass. Been voting third party for fucking years because both sides are lying crooks.

>lies and steals

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>continuing to compare a liar and a crook on one side to liars and crooks on the other side
Jesus fucking shit, how brainwashed are you?

tell me what a straw man argument is. "You keep saying that word but, I do not think you know what it means."

[spoiler] all politicians are lying pieces of shit, Trump is just the least of them and has actually done good things for the country, so far [/spoiler]

This is bullshit, the clintons are worth A LOT more than $100 Mil

Wow. Is amazing how incomprehensible trump butt boys don’t understand simple economics. I bet youd love trumps girthy uncircumcised pole stretching out your tiny asshole while you slide up and down like a fireman(probably wearing the uniform too brainlet)

I thought Trump's ability to make money was the proof that he is not an imbecile.

a straw man argument is where you either misrepresent what someone says or assume someone thinks a certain way so that you have an easy argument to win to make yourself feel good

foxnews.com/world/isis-claims-responsibility-for-sri-lanka-easter-bombings-as-death-toll-passes-300

>what's the migrant caravan up to these days?

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Although Trump may not be the greatest president ever... he's certainly done better than anyone in recent history. He has made policy that is good for business, and then talked it up, increasing consumer confidence. His economic numbers are looking good. We havn't started any new wars, and we're finishing up the ones that were already going on. Solid job for Trump so far.

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I remember using shadow stats during the Obama era and getting called a conspiracy theorist.

>Donald "10,000 Lies" Trump

imagine being under 40 and so much a cuck you support socialism for olds over 65 and are willing to die on that hill because those are your voters

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So now tell me how pointing out the fact that the labor force participation rate became steady since Trump came into office is a straw man fallacy against an argument against the unemployment rate being lower? Also, how is a random graph with no source attached an argument in the first place? Finally, not arguing against my conclusion and dismissing it because you deem the argument to be a fallacy is an argument from fallacy.

Donald "10,000 lies" Trump

>end date of the graph’s data
>Dec 2017

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Why'd your respond? You angry I called you out?

Hahaha that fucking loser had to come to Yea Forums to larp a better life... what an asshole

Domt even engage this. Anyone who believes this is a result of Trump and thinks our gdp growth was good... is too stupid to understand just about anything. Dont waste any more oxygen than they already are.

No. We said they don't make GOOD paying jobs.

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The tech industry is changing the landscape of business employment. In the past 30 years while industries have been revolutionized in a way not seen since the industrial revolution. Any Uber driver or Airbnb host as well as sellers on amazon can consider themselves self employed.

This has nothing to do with dumbass republicans and their circlejerk tax cuts. The ingenuity of people is independent of politics. The fact that the dumbest motherfucker ever is in the White House is a credit to the power of tech.

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The reason our GDP unexpectedly came in above 3% is specifically because the rich are getting richer. Corporate profits have been skyrocketing while wages have idled out. That produced the growth you see. The reason our stock market is booming is because we have had record breaking company stock buybacks in back to back years. Trumps tax break did not go to the people... it went to companies. Anyone who supports him is either in the upper echelons of the 1% or they are just completely void of any intelligence whatsoever.

>politician takes credit for good effects of previous politician, blames negative effects on previous politician.
You Millineal dick riders are only just now figuring this out?

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yeah Obooma had 8 years of shit.
Then he says over and over the jobs are "gone and not coming back."
Then Trump wins and brings the jobs back
Then libtard fags say it because of Obooma

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the POINT is that the unemployment rate is not an accurate measure of how many americans are working, as it only accounts for people who have actively looked for work in the past 4 weeks, and doesn't account for discouraged workers, thus it's idiotic to use it as a measure for anything, as there is a massive discrepancy between the unemployment rate of 3.6%(as of april 2019)[1] and the current labor force participation rate of 62.8%(as of april 2019)[2]

sources:
1: bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
2: bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm

Name one corporation that’s held a rifle to your head and forced you to buy their services

my healthcare provider

>yeah Obooma had 8 years of shit.
>Then he says over and over the jobs are "gone and not coming back."
>Then Trump wins and brings the
slavery
> back
Yesssssss, who needs skool teechers? we can all work at mcdonalds, walmart and amazon
I love the American dream :)

Yeah okay... and yet those who have given up looking for work in a completely hopeless jobless market aren't counted as "unemployed".

Fuck off shill.

Still coming by the thousands, and the Democrats refuse to address the problem.

usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/04/24/migrant-caravan-central-america-riding-beast-train-mexico/3563922002/

OboomaCare did just that
Plus all the fucking lies about keeping your doctor and plan

Hahaha you probably think this is Trunps Economy... he will always be in obamas shadow and history will talk about how he ruined our country after it was gifted to him in a glorious state

This is a lie you fucking idiot.

100 years from now American kids are gonna be like "I know Donald Trump, he was the white guy that fucked everything to shit after our first black president."

>by the thousands

I'll check back in for an update 2020 right about when the election is going on

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That's right, pretend it's not happening because it doesnt fit your narrative.

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>Facts are lies

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>larp
>asshole
actually yes.
they should at least prove that their lives are so awesome with a pic of their house or their office.
otherwise youre just a bunch of shills for hillary or trump or both.

BUILD WALL NOW

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Are you fucking retarded? Can you form a complete thought? Slavery is what the libtards program is. Working and making money is a freedom thing. Being a Gubbament check slave is for commie fags
Yeah Chicago is looking great with Obooms help.
Every libtard city is covered in shit with all the tax payers leaving. But you dumb cunts still blow Obooma every chance you get

>450,000 border crossers a year
>hurr durr not a problem lol

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t. The Government

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The left hates to admit It but Obama deported fuckers like no other and did a great job securing the border

social security & medicare. my sides. Glad you are keeping grandpa in business so he can shit all over you in the voting booth

>being this triggered

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>hurr durr 20 Billion is too expensive
>we should give Israel 38 Billion for their wall

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I work one job that pays well and has free health insurance in the private sector.

How about you demonstrate value to society to get a reward rather than wanting it all just for showing up?

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they don't, but a shit ton of old people leaving the work force lowers the unemployment rate.

>unironically using libtard

Jobs that people thrived off back then pay minimum wage now which should be above $20 an hour. But cucks allowed everyone to fuck them over with those shitty wages.

>hurr durr Mexico used to own land in the US in the 1800's so Hispanics should be in the US

>1960 3% Hispanic 85% White
>2016 18% Hispanic 48% White

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>and Mexico's paying, right?

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>hurr durr "America's Changing Demographics"

All of the "Changing Demographics" are completely caused from too much Legal and Illegal Immigration

>1.1 Million Legal Immigrants a year
>Almost 50% of them are Hispanic

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Shitty and temporary jobs

>no job security
>little or no benefits
>shitty wages
>why not live life one year at a time and never even be able to hunker down and start a life somewhere

Also, the rich get major tax cuts to create these jobs to the point that the employees might as well just be on some form of "welfare", and often the jobs the people get are jobs that are SUPPOSED to be being done by computers/machines/technology.

>having to waste your life doing something you know technology is supposed to be doing for you
>a win according to conservatives

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There will be a civil war in a few years because Politicians didn't listen to the will of the People and build the wall

>3.8 Trillion
>20 Billion for wall is too much
>38 Billion for Israel's wall

>Also, the rich get major tax cuts to create these jobs to the point that the employees might as well just be on some form of "welfare",
They are. Most of these jobs pay so little that they many of them are receiving government aid; food assistance, utilities, etc.

And all that while the rich aren't paying shit in taxes. It's ironic, because it's the middle class conservatives who are paying all the taxes to fund the benefits for people that aren't being paid enough by their wealthy employers.

don't want a hand out
want an HONEST job, with an HONEST paycheck. we're not being paid nearly the same amount our parents were. everything is more expensive (yes even when you consider inflation)
everything in our lives is designed to get us in debt. the little we are paid, how expensive everything is.
but you're too much of a jew to notice
you're so worried of an imagined nigger or spic getting a handout, that you can't even see the enemy before you.
>inb4 learn a trade
I'm a graphic designer; i'm not so brain surgeon, but neither are you.
>inb4 Venezuela
I don't believe in communism, good luck competing with the robots tho.
>inb4 libtard
i'm a registered Republican

That's propaganda, the last time the unemployment was at this level was March 2000
macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate

They will automate some jobs. Saying all jobs will be replaced is idiotic.

wages just hit parity with what they were in 1973
we're getting paid 1973 wages for 2019 prices

And if everyone did that, how many jobs in those trades would be left?

You'd certainly not be making anywhere near 33 can hour, not with competition. Yet you tell people.

>To the fags complaining, learn a trade.

Really, conservatives are this fucking stupid.

too bad all the other wages have gone down
YES! now you get paid as much as a mcdonalds worker, except you have school debt.
Please, my nigger.

Look at the official unemployment rate in your own link

It's at it's lowest point now that it ever was on that graph.
Even lower than in March 2000.

you sound retarded, I am saying there has been no net real wage growth since 1973 and all productivity gains have gone to the wealthy
I am a software engineer so I am more fortunate than most but I am here bringing a warning for even retards like you that the wealthy have no need for us

Even doctors are going to be replaced by technology, and they're aware of it and have discussions about it.

There already exists computerized machines that are far more efficient at testing, detecting, diagnosing and prescribing treatments than doctors, and do the work of an entire ER staff yet only need to be monitored by one person.

>huur de duur don't take our jawwbs!!

Civil War Scoreboard
>libs 1
>conservaCUCKS 0

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sorry April 2000 was 3.8% U-3 and today is 3.6% U-3 but pretend like that's a major difference you cock sucking faggot

When unemployment reaches low numbers, wages go up.

Also everything is designed to get us in debt because of democrats mostly.

Look at College tuition costs before the government started subsidizing it.
You could pay for a year of college in California from a summer job.
Every year since the year government subsidies came out, college costs have out paced wage growth. Every single year.

Check out the trend in the # of U.S. jobs. Can you see what's changed?

twitter.com/aaronsojourner/status/1124304323222147072

Wages grew 3.2% over the last year. Consumer prices grew 1.9%. So average hour of work buys 1.3% more than a year ago. This is slower real wage growth than in April 2015 or April 2016, due to faster price inflation, especially gas & housing.

Maybe you should have been born intelligent like the rest of us and gone to college or university for a useful, well-paying degree.
That's tough!

oh, I misunderstood
>the wealthy have no need for us
you're preaching to the choir.
the only job worth having is in automation.
at least until that job get automated.

You missed the point entirely, which was expected of a trumptard.

They're not automating jobs, they're UNAUTOMATING JOBS!

Businesses are getting tax breaks to QUIT automation and hire people instead, or not automate or outsource in the first place.

>having to waste your life doing something you know technology is supposed to be doing for you
>a win according to conservatives

I couldn't think of a more useless waste of life, but then again conservatives tend to just waste their life swilling beer, smoking cigarettes and watching cars drive around in circles anyway.

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kek, like you?
take a pic of your house for me.
with timestamp of course.
or your office.
i can wait.

Yeah it's not a super major difference but it's still lower, you retard.
So Trump isn't lying.

>TRUMP SAID IT'S THE LOWEST IN 50 YEARS! IT'S PROPOGANDA! HE'S LYING BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY TRUE BUT NOT BY MUCH!

if we didnt have illegals flooding in. You would have a higher paying job.
Libtards want their vote
Companies want the cheapest labor
I dont trust any part of the gvrmt. but without boarders the country will fail.

>watching cars drive around in circles
i like you,
my nigger.

>automate as many jobs as possible!
>Fuck over the poor people as much as possible!
>Make the elite rich as rich as possible!

given the multi-trillion dollar tax cut u3 should be 0% and you and Trump can suck some creamy logs you worthless pieces of shit

how many times has trump declared bankruptcy?

yes, let's not automate away menial labor that a monkey could do, that provides no satisfaction to the person doing it, and likely is not exactly the dream job of the person performing it

thanks Obama

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that doesn't explain the high cost of everything, including medicine for gods sake. but consider this, in europe you can get a smartphone plan for 10 euroes a month with pretty decent minutes and
data. in america you get the same thing for 50 dollars minimum.
ok, now i will wait for you to explain how the Mexicans are to blame for this.

>half the wealth of the country is concentrated into 9 people
Richest person in the U.S.: Bezos, $170 billion. If there were nine of him, that would be about $1.5 trillion. Double that, $3 trillion. That's the upper limit of the GDP, according to your autism.

Protip: The GDP is actually about $20 trillion.

Proof that Democrats can't do basic math, which does explain their economic policies.

roasted.

See:

idk
he wasnt fired from a fucking corndog stand

>because a reduction in those receiving unemployment benefits is the same as people getting jobs

see

I meant;
>conservatives sure do know how the economy works

No shit. I if I have people qualified to do my job, my employer has an incentive to pay me less. That's why specialists make so much more money than "menial" workers; because they can't be easily replaced.

I can get 4 lines of unlimited data for $100 in the ole USofA. You should use your freedom to shop around

to be fair, we definitely need a shit ton more people in trades with our dilapidated infrastructure in place in most areas

This is why tradesmen once had unions.

But of course, Ronald Reagan put an end to that.

Conservatives are still applauding, even as one of those trades -- construction work -- is being pryed right away from them by immigrants, legal or otherwise.

Shoot themselves in the foot much?

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you know AT&T has been throttling yout “unlimited” data ya?
get out of here shillary
you lost, go sell you jew products somewhere else.

We need to stop giving welfare out to the shithole countries and stop playing world police. Then there would be plenty of money to fix this country

wow it created a few jobs but at what cost?

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Not with AT&T
Sorry your Obooma phone sucks

you seem upset that Trump has a magic wand

>magic wand
>a tiny mushroom dick
did he sprinkle his pixie dust on your fairy ass? lulz

Obama created those jobs, true story.

nope, it is what we voted for, we all know trump loves dept., and like he said he won't be around to have to deal with it and neither will I most likely.

Fake statistics aren't facts. Ironically, you are the NPC for believing it.

Yeah, right! Trillions of dollars in social spending to eliminate the need for vehicles and petrol. Imagine that, trains and busses and subways in every city, no more ugly fucking trucks and SUV's flooding the roads.

What do you think they're clinging onto their guns for?

>race war
>civil war; to be caused by one of several reasons, social spending is one of them.

BTW we're the only country in the developed world that has even nearly a third of our land littered with above ground power lines, and we have over two-thirds of it that way.

In fact, most European countries put their power lines below down TO BEGIN WITH. Why didn't we? Same reason we drive on the right side of the road and use the empirical system of measurements.

Idiots. "Huurp de duur, we need our own identity! Fuck Europe, let's just do the opposite of what they do! I love power outages and being electrocuted by downed lines, and seeing an ugly fucking eyesore everytime I go outside!"

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Yay!!!!

This is what happens when you don’t have any marketable skills!

Protip......unskilled labor has ALWAYS paid shit throughout the Industrial Age.

Try going back to school or apprentice in a growing field.

Get a trade skill.

I work half a job and make bank cause you lazy fucks just want to smoke pot and get shit faced.

Show up on time, stay focused and on task, do what the boss says and laugh all the way to the bank.

Learn basic economics. Literally first grade economics.

>

>
There, now the retard is all caught up.

You forgot the most important step

check them dubs

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less than the times you tried to escape from poverty without succeeding

If more people went to trade school, you'd be out of work. Do you really think your employer is going to pay you even 40 grand a year, when there's tens of millions of people in this country desperate to make even just 30?

But go on, scream it from the rooftops. Try to get them all to go to trade school, see what happens.

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in this thread
children 10-40 larping about their "awesome" jobs. show me your house. let us judge you by your house. or at least show me your mom's basement.

There are not tens of millions in this nation desperate to make 30k annually. 30k annually is below the poverty line, most people would rather just not work and soak up gubbmint $krilla instead of working their ass off for 30k.

Would you like my social security number and credit card info too?

sure

A third of all American workers receive some form of government aid because they are below the poverty line, which is $25,750.

>they really are this dumb

No shit, minimum wage is only 14,000 a year, and that's if you can even get full time.

Haters gonna hate. My college degree paid for itself in two years of working and by b.s. in mechanical engineering is a few short semesters from completion. I already have job offers out the ass.

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here's to the wage slaves!

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>and that's if you can even get full tim
This is exactly what's happening. Part of the trump admin's strategy to artificially inflate these jobs statistics is to incentive business to hire part-time.

If I get even just 2% of businesses in the country to do it for tax breaks, then all the sudden I've created another 2% or even higher in jobs. I'm currently working three jobs, in an area where most people are working three jobs.

This area is absolutely booming in the jobs statistic, technically. Three times as many jobs as there were before.

haven't you heard?
just learn a trade! LOL

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Case in point

Nah buddy-o just need to talk to the tard who started this thread and all the other conservacucks in it

learn to code

Herpa derpa you dumb dumb. Also don't forget real wages haven't risen since the late 70s and the real cost of living has only increased :)

shitty jobs

someday you children will understand presidents have little control over the economy.

Yeah, I saw that bullshit on MSNBC too.

If you are working more than one job you are a loser with no skill,trade,degree so change your bum loser life or drink some bleach

hang on,the right thinks a guy who's business's have a history of going bankrupt will go be good for job creation

when is the right going to see the pile of liberal shit they elected?

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It's a fact. Your statement isn't an argument. Here's a normalized graph starting with a base in the 70s. Hope you know how to read a normalized graph!

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Boomer quality post

Like I said
You're an idiot.

lol

I only have to work one.

>implying anyone in the government doesn't lie and steal

You tards will laugh at anything.

go back to your boomer nazi facebook jerk circle with these shit tier memes