Your daily reminder that the Nazis were actually politically to the left and not the right.
They were for socialism and set their government up as a socialist type government. With centralized economic policies. Extreme laws about what could and couldn't be said about the government and groups of people. Disarmed the population that they didnt like. Arrested anyone who talked bad about the leadership.
Porsche owned his factory, but could only produce what the government told him to. Farmers could only grow what and how much the government told them. The government thought that it knew best for its people, and so made sure to order their lives as much as possible to produce, in their eyes, the perfect citizen, including what could and could not be taught to the youth of the nation.
So many leftists/progressives/socialists want the same thing that the nazis did to their people to happen in america.
>pic sorta related
lenin said that socialism is the first step to communism
Nazi: "Rothschilds exist, therefore working class jews are a problem." Leftist: "Bill Gates exists, therefore working class white people have white privilege."
Evan Kelly
>the Nazis were actually politically to the left and not the right.
Let me get this right, the left propagates: Multiculturalism, equal right for women, LGBT rights other stuff while the nazis propagated the exact opposite: A single culture and race to dominate all others, women as second class citizens to produce new soldiers, and the persecution and murder of homosexuals and minorities. But yet you claim they are both on the same side despite differing on opposing absolute core left values? You are a fucking retard.
They were classically on the right when it comes to be Authoritarian and when it comes to social control.
They believed in a strong government which is something that the left in America believes in but it’s not a politically leftist position.
The American “left” isn’t really leftish. They are only leftish in their belief in less social control. They are economically to the right in that they believe in authoritarian control of the economy.
The American “right”believes in authoritarian social control. Now the difference is that some believe in laissez faire economic policy but most now a days believe in authoritarian control of the economy as well.
Xavier Adams
National socialist party must be socialists. Democratic republic of North Korea must be a democracy. OP must be huge fag.
Nicholas Howard
hey did you not read this faggot? they were a socialist society and government. socialism is left of center. so by facts established we know nazis were a left wimg government. plus, look at how the left uses Goebbel like propaganda to lure idiots like you into actual hate against others up to and including violence to shut the right down. more than eighty percent i bet of political violence in america comes from leftists like you who want to "bash the fasc"
Cameron Brooks
Wow that’s an over simplified view of the world
Easton Powell
>working class white people have white privilege
"Working class white people" appear to have a giant victim complex.
I mean white privilege is a thing. It doesn’t mean your life is good because your white but it does mean you don’t get pulled over for being white
Leo Torres
Daily reminder that hitler is considered a hero only on the right, that all nazis consider themselves right-wingers, that hitlers political rivals were communists and social democrats, and that no one on the left ever supported hitler back then, or today.
/thread
Xavier Anderson
youre describing an off shoot of nationalism.
im talking about the actual government structure and socialist policies to keep it going. you are wanting to push white heteros to the bottom of a new caste system youre trying to implement in america. you have no problem running roughshod over a whole group of people just so you can elevate one vroup over another, just like the nazis did
Kayden Hughes
An ideology either supports the French monarchy (right-wing) or it supports the French republic (left-wing). I can't think of many ideologies that wouldn't have a firm position on this issue.
Owen Cruz
>thinks he is woke/clever >doesn't understand the diff between dictatorship and communism
Xavier Smith
>Being this retarded
Nazis were not politically left at all. Fascism is a right wing movement created to combat the rise and spread of communism.
Are all right wingers this dumb?
Nolan Thomas
I remember when I was 15 and didn’t understand nuance
Alexander White
There is literally no real distinction between left and right. It's a completely artificial framing technique and psy op used by the establishment to split the masses into two arbitrary factions and foment hostility between them to avoid a united populace directing their energy towards real social change. Left and Right positions shift and change over decades to the point where they can almost switch, based on what politicians who are chosen to represent them say. Noam Chomsky said it best: "There is only one party in the united states: the property party; and it has two right wings - republican and democrat". Except it should be "two establishment wings" instead.
Camden Rivera
only because of his views of jews to some backwards hick motherfuckers.
yet you use the same tactics as he did. and when you attain power, you elevate one class of people over another, all in the name of fairness. hitler wanted to elevate the german people over all others. you use violence to shit down those you disagree with and try to stifle them from speaking, the nazis did the same thing. toe the line or face the consequences. i dont really hear conservative politicians saying we need to shut down liberal speakers, or run them out of the public square, but i hear an awful lot from the left with that talk
Dominic Diaz
>they were a socialist society and government.
No they were not. All the actions of the Nazi regime from 1933 to 1939 served one purpose in the end: Preparing for war.
the structure of their fucking government was socialist you neckbeard
Nathan Peterson
you white? go walk the south side of chicago or amywhere in flint michigan and tell me again how thats bullshit. go put yourself in the middle of it and see who gets shot firat and robbed firat, you or daqwan
Caleb Evans
There's a reason for those statistics, just as there was a reason for the relative statistical affluence of Jews in 1920s Germany. Leftists frame it as the "white privilege" conspiracy theory, the nazis framed it as "the jewish problem".
James Johnson
>the structure of their fucking government was socialist you neckbeard
and for your next act your gonna tell me that the earth is flat, ar15's are weapons of war, whites invented slavery, theres no such thing as breadlines in cuba, and how if we just become slaves for the government all will be wll
take your unicorn fart smelling ass back to your trap threads with your stupidity
Evan Lewis
you hot the wrong user post there.
socialism requires a centrally planned economy
their economy was centrally planned.
Tyler Morris
no you retard, they were socialist so what, that's an economic ideology mostly, just like pinochet, getulio vargas, franco and mussolini were. But of course, using a socialist economic system wipes out the fact that they enforced a right wing ideology e.g christianism, racism and anti-communism also, using you fucking logic, the US is a totalitarian and authoritarian dictatorship, because there are only 2 fucking parties and the government enforces a pro-goverment agenda all the time
Ryder Torres
thats socialism 101
Dylan Cox
No shit faggot
Bentley Fisher
well.youre trying to go for a different dichotomy here.
my whole point is to illustrate that nazis were left wing, and the only damned reason they hated the commies is because they thought the commies were being puppet mastered by the jews
Angel Diaz
authoritarianism is neither a left or right thing, either side can authoritarian. even communism revolves around an authoritarian government.
>le nazis were really leftists maymay does anyone actually believe this?
Jackson Wilson
Why do you think racism is right-wing and anti-racism is left-wing? Were the USSR particularly anti-racist? Is China particularly anti-racist? North Korea?
Levi Campbell
The Nazi government developed a partnership with leading German business interests, who supported the goals of the regime and its war effort in exchange for advantageous contracts, subsidies, and the suppression of the trade union movement.[10] Cartels and monopolies were encouraged at the expense of small businesses, even though the Nazis had received considerable electoral support from small business owners.[11]
could replace the word nazi with US
Sebastian Morales
>Your daily reminder that the Nazis were actually politically to the left and not the right.
they were pointed at as the perfect example of communism until it failed (like every other time) then it was it not real communism it actually became the perfect example of communism it always fails usually to tune of millions dead
hows that workers paradise in Venezuela doing? they were real socialists, they did everything the american left wants to do, what happened?
Elijah Powell
>thinks you need pay ops to make people disagree and hate each other
Dude put any 10 people in a room together for long enough and they will start resenting each other. I'm not disagreeing with your point, but why does it have to be a grand conspiracy again. It's unnecessary.
Fascism was founded by Mussolini and a few of his Marxist pals. Mussolini was the head of the Socialist party at one time.
James Hall
>implying the nazi party didn't recieve help and funding from pro capitalist and anti communist german industrial titans.
Sebastian Nguyen
National Socialist here. Thank you for telling me what I believe, but... >Nazis were actually politically to the left and not the right. They were left economically and right socially. Ethno-nationalism = right wing, socialism = left wing. Nat Soc defies the left-right spectrum and actually would be placed as a centrist, authoritarian ideology. >Extreme laws about what could and couldn't be said about the government and groups of people. Not entirely true. Communists and jews were sent to jolding centers along with other criminals, but there werent laws banning dissidence. >Disarmed the population that they didnt like. They actually didnt. Guns were already illegal in Germany, hitler just legalized ownership for german citizens.
jeebus, this threa is still around, i thought by now itd be dead.
i think i already said that while nationalism is a right wing thing, the socio-economic policies of the nazis were closer to socialism than anything, so we agree on that point.
authoritarian isnt pigeonholed into right or left, either side can be that way, and usually must be that way for it to succeed, (socialism/communism. and a strict nationalistic/non-interventionist (sic) policies)
when it comes to what socialists want i think a more regulated economy is the way to instead of a lasseise faire economy, but not so regulated that the state is dictating anything more than how corporations treat their customers, and making sure that companies dont go on merger sprees and thereby choking competiton.
sorry if im having trouble spelling and making a coherent statement, im reall really tired. what im trying to do is get people past their entrenched mindset on both sides.
Oliver Diaz
>what im trying to do is get people past their entrenched mindset on both sides Well if youre the OP, you did a shit job. >N-nAZis WerE LeFt WiNg is a retarded thing to say because a) leftists are just gonna say youre wrong b) nazis like me are gonna say, "So what?" c) right wingers are just gonna circlejerk Congratulations, you sparked a circlejerk for all three positions.
Juan Sanders
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Kayden Young
Socialism: >everyone is equal >worker's rights >the state should serve the people >dictatorship of the proletariat
Nazis: >everyone who's not aryan is worth less than aryans >workers have to work, soldiers have to fight or be killed >the people should serve the state (basically the whole country ended up producing for the war) >dictatorship by small group (which is arguably what socialism/communism becomes eventually, but it's not part of the ideology)
Liam Parker
>workers have to work, soldiers have to fight or be killed as opposed to other forms of socialism, where if you chose not to work, you get killed... wait. >the people should serve the state no, goy, the people should serve each other (in the form of giving all your money to the state).
Holy fuck. You really don't understand political science, do you?
Oliver Miller
I think that whole left-right dichotomy kinda breaks down when the government starts mass murdering people.
Isaac Myers
Nazi is short for nationalsozialisten or in english: Nationalistic socialists That already tells you all you need to know about their ideology. Stop wasting everyone's time with your "educational" rant.
Jaxon King
You dumb uneducated motherfuckers. I know that you want Nazis to be socialists because you want to compare them to socialist democrats. But maybe it's best to start with facts and follow them to a conclusion, rather than starting with a conclusion and justifying it. You're manipulating history for a modern purpose. You're know, Hitler did the same thing, but do you think that makes you Hitler?
The NSDAP did not espouse or carry out socialist principles. I don't care if the word was in the name. In the end, Hitler was not socialist. And, make no mistake, Hitler and the party were synonymous. This is not opinion. It's fact.
There is no point in arguing this. It's immediately clear that you're either entirely ignorant or educated by partial websites pressing your beliefs. I just hope that someday each of you puts in honest effort to study political science and history from legitimate, researched, and (most importantly) sourced material. And please stop putting the cart before the horse, no matter how much you want to justify your conclusion. Read a fucking book.
Some people on the left started accusing people on the right of being fascists and racists. Do some people on the right promote fascist or racist ideas? Absolutely. Notably, neo-Nazis and neo-Confederates. Do all people on the right feel that way? No. Of course not. However, some people on the left feel that the right is not sufficiently condemning those views and, in effect, endorsing them.
But this right here is just a knee-jerk reaction of the right, saying, "No, you!" Look, the majority of American conservatives aren't Nazis. The majority of American liberals aren't Communists. Stop with the false equivalents and bullshit comparisons. And if you're going to throw accusations, at least get your political science and history straight. OP is stupid and ignorant. Don't follow OP's example.
TL;DR OP is partial and doesn't know what he's talking about. Don't be like OP.
Nolan Jackson
>Nazis were actually politically to the left and not the right. brainlet retard faggot
Jeremiah Lewis
Nuance is too much for you, isn't it? If you're lazy and don't like to read or think too hard, that's up to you. But that doesn't tell you everything you need to know. That's lazy and pathetic thinking.
Brody Kelly
You're a dumb piece of shit.
Before Hitler became Reich Chancellor, his violent, vitriolic rhetoric radicalized the SA to commit violent acts against the Social Democrats and the Communist party. Even if he did officially try to distance himself from it to protect his public image, he was directly responsible for much of the chaos in Germany from 1929 to before he came to power in 1933. He was appointed Reich Chancellor in 1933 not because the Nazi party had a majority in parliament but because President Hindenburg and his advisers thought giving him real power would control him and the party, help quell the violence in the streets, and prevent Germany from devolving into a civil war. Within weeks Hitler made the SA the de facto police force and used the Reichstag fire as an excuse to intimidate, arrest, and murder his political opponents and members of the trade unions.
The first victims of Hitler weren't the jews or other minorities. The first concentration camp Dachau was build for political opponents. Socialists, communists were all the first to die. And some of Hitlers henchman that formed a danger to him to (see night of the long knives).
Leo Jackson
You talking about lack of nuance is pretty rich considering you try to draw parallels between contemporary american socialists and nazis.
Tyler Rivera
>Your daily reminder that the Nazis were actually politically to the left and not the right. Your daily idiot who can't understand politics because undertanding hurts his brainwash
Robert Ramirez
I'm not. I think this thread is stupid. Nazis weren't socialists. I'm saying that drawing conclusions based on their name, despite their actual views and actions, is idiotic.
Thomas Murphy
Nazis were fasscist, that's a hard right ideology.
They had socialist programs, just like MOST governments of any type, bu that doesn't make them socialist any more than China's government is a Republic. What defines a government is the role of its leadership, not which social programs they choose to enact.
Christopher Miller
Reminder that the Nazis also campaigned on a return to traditional values and jingoism and were violently opposed to the social democrats, who they outlawed and imprisoned when they gained power. It's true that economically they had "left" policies like centralized control, but socially they were extremely right.
Your daily reminder that no one gives a fuck about the economic policies of fucking Nazis.
Charles Ramirez
The Nazis were nationalists, not socialists, you abject moron.
OP is a raging fag.
Asher Barnes
reeeeeeee if I just keep saying bad things are only leftie things it will become true
reeeeeeee if I just keep calling lefties cucks it will distract from the fact that right wing political bias has a correlation to a cuckold sexual pathology as the kinsey institute researched people's politcal biases vs their sexual proclivities and found righties are most likely to be turned on by infidelity/cuckolding/swinging while lefties are more likely then others to be turned on by BDSM
Jeremiah Reed
Absolutely. Thank you for saying this clearly and concisely. You'd think that beating socialists in the streets would be enough. Let alone the imprisonment and murder of socialists. Yet here we are.
The amusing part is that their economic policies were bizarrely effective. The economists of the time were convinced that it would collapse in no time but they underestimated just what state control could manage to do.
Carter Cooper
The reason they do this is because they want to comparison modern American liberals/Democrats to Nazis. It is in part because many liberals have questioned The silence of the right regarding neo-nazis in their ranks. It's also just a way to generally villainize the left. So they start with conclusions, ignore facts, and build a stupid little narrative.
Dominic Fisher
you talking about the nazis or stalinist soviet russia?
cause the nazi's didn't have state control, the only thing the state controlled was the railways and their healthcare in terms of their markets, they had privatized industry, the only area the government intervened in markets was seizing jewish buisnesses, they were authoritarian facists, not commies.... hitler didn't give two fucks about what buisnesses did as long as they weren't jews, and the jewish textile mills that the nazis seized, they converted them into weapons manufacturing plants and privatized them
even their uniforms and airplanes were made via private industry (hugo boss/bmw)
Elijah Moore
>So many leftists/progressives/socialists want the same thing that the nazis did to their people to happen in america.
Wow, that's dumb.
The only interesting thing in your entire ignorant rant was that you didn't capitalize "America," but you did capitalize "Nazis." I think that tells me everything I need to know.
