If you say to a woman you don't want to have sex right now but she ends up jumping on your dick and riding you till you...

If you say to a woman you don't want to have sex right now but she ends up jumping on your dick and riding you till you cum anyway... Is that rape?


have I been raped?

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uh, yeah. That's rape.

your dick said yes, no rape.

The dick isn't in charge of the decision making process, its opinion is irrelevant.

you have been raped #metoo

Technically I'd say yes but in reality I think there's probably more layers to it.

Ask yourself, do I feel like violated, was it a horrible experience, would I meet and have sex with the woman again?

Like I said, it is rape but whether you want to do something about it is up to you, could be the girl didn't understand how much you really meant no.

It's happened a few times in my relationship, personally, I always enjoy getting 'raped' by my girl

not true. if old men started touching you, wanting you to fuck them, would you get a boner?

Haha, you must not have a dick

Yes

Just like black people cannot be racist, women cannot rape men. This isn't that hard, shitlord.

this has happened to me before, is that how girls feel

Two dubs side by side.

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Irrelevant. The dude can decide for himself if he wants to have sex or not. If he decides he doesn't want to, thats the end of the fucking story. Any bullshitting about "oh your dick got hard" is the shit rapists say to excuse their behavior. Your biological functions are not what gets to be the judge. The individual is. He gets to chose if he consents to sex or not. Not his dick.

Yea but laws and people are pretty biased
So you would never be able to prosecute it

Yes, that is exactly how girls who've been raped feel. They can't control their autonomous bodily functions like arousal any more than guys can. Its why women get all crazy about rape, since its a literal usurpation of control of their own body. Which is what makes it a crime.

I have become the most powerful being the universe

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I had sex with a chick who said she didn't have an STD, now I have herpes :(

Wish there was a law that made people who lie about not having an STD to someone who is clean and then infecting them illegal

Why does he get an erection if he is not aroused? A man that can't stop a woman from riding him to orgasm? Fuck off.

That's crazy, man. Have you ever tried DMT?

I learned you guys really feel pressured to say yes when you are offered sex. A real guy would never turn it down right? It’s not true tho, you can say no. You can be just as much not in the mood as anybody. Like he might say he’s not in the mood and I’ll say are you sure and give him a little dance or lift my shirt and while I haven’t directly raped him, and he says he’d tell me seriously if he wasn’t actually wanting it, he knows he feels the pressure to say yes. That I might take it as an insult and the years of societal pressure makes him feel guilty for saying no. That men should always want it and saying no would mean you’re pathetic or that she’ll cheat.
Maybe it sounds like a childish way to think, all typed out. But I want you guys to know, you can say no too. And girl who makes you feel bad even after you’ve told her isn’t worth keeping. Especially if you told her about how you felt, pressured to say yes. You deserve better.

oh

The penis gets hard for no reason some times. Being shoved in to a girls pussy would make it hard, without wanting it to.

His arousal is irrelevant to the conversation. You can be aroused and still deny sex. Because arousal is not a decision. Its a response to stimulus outside your control. What's more his inability to prevent a woman from riding him isn't relevant either. You can't stop a woman from shooting you with a pistol either but that doesn't mean its not murder.

Can confirm this, was very pressured into sex with herpes mule

Yes. Well, there might be need for more context, but yes.

The fact that when men feel violated or raped that they need to confirm that those feelings can be felt is disgusting

Women suck

>Any* girl who makes you feel bad
I’m sorry for your experience. I agree that there should be a law but maybe some states do have them, I wouldn’t know. Unfortunately the best way is to make sure by needing to see proof they are clean. It’s annoying and drives people away but it’s how the other women I know do it and it’s better than catching something.

yes, but don't tell her that, or else she will deny you sex next time.

Society sucks. It constantly shames men who turn down sex that even women believe men want it at all times

Right, so ...

in the UK (and I guess in many western countries), rape is defined as when a man penetrates someone else with his penis without consent. As such, it is impossible for a woman to legally commit rape.

Remember an erection is a physical response that can occur when you are asleep etc but does not necessarily mean consent. If a woman does this then it is only assault and not rape under the law.

Essentially, the rules have been stacked against men quite comprehensively here.

All these misogynists need to fuck off. Men can't be raped, period. And hate to break it to you sweaty, but denying a woman sex as a privileged white male makes you a sexist.

It'd hard to say it's rape for a man because he COULD get up, he COULD just leave, there is rarely a threat of violence. You CAN stop her 99% of the time. If you don't, it doesn't mean you were raped, or forced, it just meant you let it happen.

I hope a 600 pound woman rapes you.

Doesn't matter, now you have to pay child support.

False and false. Neither of this is of any relevance to the discussion of rape. Regardless of what you could or could not do, if you do not consent to sex, and are then forced into it, that's rape. End of story. Irregardless of gender, or capability.

That would be the 1%, the 600 pound woman who you genuinely don't think you could outrun.

Physical consent is a thing.

My gosh I think this is an actual femanon

It is not. Your body is not the decision making apparatus of yourself. The reactions of your body are outside your control, thus they are not decisions. Consent is a decision.

If a girl ejaculating during rape means it's still rape, an unconsented boner and cumshot still means rape.

Then with that logic if a woman is wet enough to penetrate then its not rape.

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Well, if you don't consent, it is.

You're a faggot btw

Men, boys really, need to actually learn about rape and consent laws because believing much of the nonsense you hear will fuck up your life.

See this to understand how precarious the sitation can be:

time.com/99959/campus-sexual-assault-matthew-kaiser/

Physical consent is not a thing.

5% of women report having an orgasm whilst being raped. This is a physical response and would probably be discounted by any court as a sign of consent.

You decide to sit there and let a girl ride you to completion.

That’s awful
We exist

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yes. feel free to press charges, or high five someone.

does it matter? nobody takes male rape victims seriously anyway.you should be glad you got some pussy

irrelevant. The situation doesn't matter. You assume he was physically superior to the woman because he was a man, but this is not always the case.

WHAT THE FUG

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>you assume he was physically superioro
no, that is why i said
>It'd hard to say it's rape
and then give the reasons why.

an orgasm is not physical consent. simply sitting there and letting someone smaller, weaker, and of no physical threat to you ride you to completion is.

PLEASE BE MY INTERNET GF I'M SO LONELY

Holy fuck your tits are incredible.

Thank you femanon. May all your penetrations be consensual.

I hope you find a wonderful man femanon. Your milkers are superb

Correct. So if she isn't wet at all, spit on it until you can get it in. Then it's not rape.

>Tried
>Acquitted

Let me see your dick

It true
No dice
That’s nice of you to say but for all you know the other one is missing
You as well user, giving or receiving
Thanks user, I have. I was partially speaking from experience, learning about how pressured you guys can feel broke my heart. I felt awful that I might’ve unintentionally forced him into it over the years. More women should be aware and more men should feel like they can say no and not feel lesser for it
I hope you find a girl worth holding onto user

Watch out here because legally consent needs to be "active" and "enthusiastic".

Just letting someone have sex with you is not enough. This is why in the old days convictions would fail all the time because people expected the woman to put up a fight, even if she was scared out of her mind and did not fight a smaller, weaker man.

Hence the change to active consent.

Lord knows how you prove that in cases, though.

Clearly we are all too busy looking at the tits to see the "You can say no". Wise words for any boy and girl to learn.

What if I'm actively raping her with enthusiasm? Not rape, right?

>That’s nice of you to say but for all you know the other one is missing

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I imagined OP meant not in the legal sense but in the philosophical sense. To the letter of the law, my answer is mostly the same which is 'it's hard to say' because it is rather vague with men. If he went to a cop or tried to press charges I'm not sure what would happen.

Jeesh you exude femininity and kindness. Your bf/husband is a lucky man. I'm curious how old are you?

I'm 16

It's ok, just talking to a qt on the internet makes the dread subside a little.

Oh uh you probably shouldn't be posting pics then. Nevertheless I hope you're happy and give yourself a hug from me.

>>It'd hard to say it's rape
No, its not. Its very easy to say if its rape.
>user did you consent to sex?
>no I did not
Rape.

yes, you have been raped.

>simply sitting there and letting someone smaller, weaker, and of no physical threat to you ride you to completion is
Again, you've made the assumption that this male is physically superior to this woman, simply because he's a male. You don't know that, and even then, it wouldn't be relevant. Its still rape. Full stop.

Jeesh is that a D cup???

>did you consent to sex?
>No I did not
Then why the fuck did you just sit there and let her ride you to completion?

Woah, I'm old enough to be your father. Put on a top, do your homework and go outside to have a healthy life.

Again, I didn't. my whole initial point was
>hard to say
then someone argued that having an orgasm is not consent, and I said it's not but
>simply sitting there and letting someone smaller, weaker, and of no physical threat to you ride you to completion is
I didn't say OP did that. I said that it is an example of someone not consenting verbally but then consenting physically.

yeah its 100% rape.

I had a girl fuck me while I was passed out drunk. I was raped.

Irrelevant.
>Did you consent to this sex femanon?
>No I did not
>Then why did you get drunk as fuck at that party if you didn't expect to get fucked?
You as the victim are not required to do anything to stop the crime in progress in order for it to be a crime. You do not need to fight the man who tries to rob you, or beat you for it be considered theft or assault. The fact that he did not fight hard enough, or at all is completely irrelevant, no matter how much you believe it to be so.

I would agree with this. Morally wrong but legally dubious.

Most people have the default of "men always want it all the time and you should be grateful" so I suspect you would get limited sympathy and virtually no support from the police.

You're making a false distinction. Not resisting is not consent. Because consent is not given with your body.

Relevant
>then why did you get drunk as fuck at the party if you didn't expect to get fucked?
Because people drink alcohol to have fun, not to have sex.

Literally just sitting there, knowingly, awake and sober and seeing someone riding you, and doing nothing to stop it iwthout any threat physical or otherwise is not rape. It's giving in to your urges.

No, in legal terms it is not rape. For it to be considered rape you have to have BEEN forcefully penetrated, so being forced to penetrate does not fall under that definition. (that is the definition in MOST states and countries, not all, but most).

>Because consent is not given with your body
People consent without a word, all the time. Arguably the majority of sex is consented to without words.

>You're making a false distinction.
No, I'm not. Not taking the most minimal of effort to stop something that is 100% stoppable is giving into your urges, and is not rape.

For your dubs
Thank you, he tells me he’s lucky but I believe I’m the lucky one. We’re both 28.
That’s good
Last I checked I’m between d and double
I guess this is why I should include pics

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it's clear that you have never been in this situation or had an experience even remotely like this. maybe you should sit quiet in the back seat and let the adults talk this one out champ

Ahem. You have an intriguing outlook, unfortunately you are missing your credentials

you sound like rick sanchez

You didn’t scroll far enough

Why does penor look shooped?

I never said words are the sole giver of consent. I said your Body isn't what gives consent. What's more, as I said, the victim is not required to have done anything. A crime is a crime. And consent is a Choice. Its not one you can mistakenly make by not resisting. If you do not consent to the sex, it is rape. You don't need to have fought, or struggled. That's the same argument rapists make to justify their actions. You are unequivocally wrong.

because it is?

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>Not taking the most minimal of effort to stop something that is 100% stoppable is giving into your urges, and is not rape.

This was said all the time to women who claimed they were raped. Now the responsibility has shifted to the person doing the penetrating, i.e. it is not their responsibility to argue / fight back but yours to prove the woman agreed. This viewpoint is where sex is "done" to women.

In both the case of the man or woman complaining, there would be very little chance of conviction in this scenario because it would go to a he said / she said fog.

>A real guy would never turn it down right? It’s not true tho, you can say no.

I have. A couple years ago a friend of mine got way too drunk and really wanted to fuck. Not that night.

We started up a while later. Too bad about the childhood rape coming out in flashback the second time we were about to.

You seem like a decent sort femanon. God speed.

so, like, more?

Somehow, we have accidentally had a genuinely useful thread on this board of traps and cucks.

Listen to this user as they are correct.

user said he wanted to see my dick. Here’s my real one
Only this. I don’t intend to attention whore in this thread. (We’re a couple of degenerate exhibitions tho so you’ll see me around) Just wanted to tell some anons it’s ok to say no, even in established relationships.
Have a good one anons and I wish you all a future of consensual sex (or consensual rape sex if that’s your thing)

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Sorry, my first and possibly only question.
Are you intending to make money in any way of Yea Forums through this exerbition thing?

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I currently do it for free on soc but I have been considering finding a way to make money. I don’t love paywhores, I like free porn and providing it, but it’d be nice to get lights or a better camera and outfits. Just have it funded by people who want to see more. So maybe a no exclusives patreon or just a really cheap subscription to a mega I update monthly or some shit. Basically trying to find a way to go paywhore but not upset the thot police
For those lovely trips

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Okay. But by referring to an account your no longer anonymous, one of us.

He could stop her tho. Ain't no rape without bruises.

Do you have some kind of portal i can see more of your pics, like twitter or mega

...

Respect. Though.

thank you for that clit

I have no account and this is the reason I’m on the fence about going pay. I just need some lighting and camera stuff and while nice anons exist that’d probably like to help donate towards higher quality sets, there seem to be more that’d be worse about it. I prefer to be user on b but on soc I do go by a name ya got me
No and it seems it might stay that way
Thanks. Stop getting dubs tho

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Had to hijack the thread didn't you? Little attention-starved whore...

It was for the dubs and to avoid impersonators

kikes like that make my blood boil

[thirsty reply]

Nice
Sorry but even for those dubs I’ve done enough attention whoring. See you anons around

Literally a retard's reasoning. I'll hold a knife to your throat and fuck you dry until you cum you faggot and your bitchass will only stand there crying
Kek. Faggot

Women crave rape.
It shouldn't be a crime at all.