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I fucking envy them, imagine the money you're making by just putting pics up on instagram and having all the SJW's and pedos support you.
They're literally infinitely more successful than we are and they're not even in puberty yet.
I hate this modern times so much I can't even explain how much.
When can we fuck them though?
I wonder (((who))) is behind this.
I would rather live as a poor man than succumb to becoming something SJWs support. To many fucking retarded kids nowadays. 2002 was the last of the normal ones.
e l o n m u s k
I often wonder about that
>I'm too retarded to take advantage of idiots
I sure hope you don't live in the US with that mentality.
>war is good
Jajajaja yeah
> suck-sess
If you consider this success then you deserve to suck-sess in this
Jajajaja of course infinitely more successful
Jajajajajjaja
Old day: war
New day: gay
"Waht want wrong?"
The chemtrails are turning the freaking frogs gay!!!
Yeah, money is the most important thing in the world. Hope they enjoy their sick, pathetic life.
Indeed
Being a piece of shit is 1000 times better than being a faggot with make up
Wow great cherrypicking!
Surely there was no kids dressing like fags when you young and there is definitely not even one child playing with conventional toys today. How sad!
He was right
What has that got to do with this post? lol
This
>being a genuinely bad person is preferable to an actual good person who wears some makeup
Lol
>I'm not a real American unless I'm taking advantage of someone
Kill yourself.
>wtt internet anger for 7-figure salary
1+1=2?
Id rather have my boys learn creativity than war.
Good?
Where?
let boys do what they like
Have you been living under a fucking rock for the past 1000 years?
Yes, money is literally EVERYTHING.
I'm not saying that you aren't a real american, you're just one of those retarded ones that everyone will take advantage of instead.
Fucking top kek, you deserve it.
It's kinda what he's been warning everybody about. YOUR POST.
Id rather my boys to be men than softys.
>implying the kids of modern times aren't also shooting bb guns
Maybe you raised your kids wrong, that's not the liberals' faults. I live in a neighborhood full of kids and they play with shit like that constantly. The main difference is now even the blacks and the girls are playing outside with the boys. The transgender stuff is such a minority you may never see one in your life, especially if you live on your computer like this out-of-touch boomer Facebook meme would strongly imply. Quit being a whiny bitch about shit you don't understand at all.
>ugh kids doing something creative and harmless is much worse for society than being told that killing people is fun and giving them no options
this. boys will be boys
this. everyone will be everyone
You're probably one of those sociopathic faggots that goes through life assuming everyone else is as much of an asshole as you are.
We aren't; it's just you.
Why? It's good that we live in a world that's generally safe enough for ultra-bro lifestyles to not be necessary. You really wish that your own children felt so scared of life that they have to be hardened?
>everything
Hahahaha
are you 10 yo?
>creative
Those are some pretty intense mental gymnastics.
Nah, I'm just the asshole that takes advantage of retarded fucks like you.
Cheers mate, you're making my life a lot easier.
Why not just let them be what they want to be
Who gives a shit? You're a grown adult. Time to get a damn life.
user is right. It's a minority. If anything, kids are more inclusive of other kids. Had it been this way when OP was a kid, he would have had friends and wouldn't have grown up to be such a faggot.
Imagine being so ill accomplished and pathetic that you have to circle jerk over a few gay kids on the internet just to find someone to feel superior over.
Are you?
Are you really going to start spouting all this soul-searching retarded armchair psychology bullshit?
Just let me know so I can decide whether or not I need to grab some popcorn.
user they did that my day too but I'm not an intolerant control freak bigot like you are.
Hahahahaha
So brave behind your keyboard
I would like to see you saying that in the middle of the street to everyone
Hahaha piece of shit i know what you really are.
You don't have to take advantage of other people to prevent other people taking advantage of you. All it takes is not being an idiot. If your brain allows you to think the way that you do, congratulations, you're stupid enough that people will take advantage of you.
But we all know you're just making excuses for being a cunt.
Good person? Are you aware that his make up is being tested on animals? Perverted pedo apologist, that's what you are.
Outrage for the sake of profit in the cost of nature.
go home, boomer
How do you figure? Mental gymnastics is like when someone kills a pigeon and then makes up excuses for why it's actually the fault of their Uncle Joe who can't eat wheat. Calling a kind of art creative is not quite the same thing
welcome to your average liberal communitys 2019,im sorry this is what you think everybody is doing today
>they like
you mean,what there liberal parents taught them to like?
I remember working in a factory with a bunch of boomers and 20 something year olds who acted like boomers. They couldn't wait to "project" their masculinity over the previous generations. The sad thing is none of them actively went to the gym, they weren't socially successful and the few times I see them outside of work they had ugly wives. I remember pulling out of work and almost hitting one of them when he tried to run the parking lot stop sign. When I went to get out and say dude wtf he just pulled off. Every since I seen him at that job he always avoided eye contact. Typical traditional fag.
THIS JUST CONVINCED ME THAT I LIKE OPTION #2.. KEEP PUMPING OU THOSE SWEET, SWEET FEMBOYSD.. ILL BE HERE WHEN THEY TURN LEGAL.
>oh look at me ! , i can type fast af boiii
You can eat the popcorn from my ass
Whay dont you just admit that you look just like those faggot but you getting bullied and think you can do something about that in Yea Forums
now if you've got the game
I am pretty sure you either live in a third world shithole in south america, or you're originally from one.
Mainly because you just type like a gigantic, insecure faggot.
>All it takes is not being an idiot.
KEK.
I mean it's pretty fucking cute that you think that, but in reality it just means that you're too dumb to realize that someones taking advantage of you.
As I said, it's people like you that makes the world go around because you do wonders for the financial stability of others by being who you are.
Kudos my dude, the world wouldn't quite be the place it is without people like you.
Also you seem to think that being a cunt, earning money at the expense of others and having it real easy is somehow a bad thing.
Cute.
I'm sure your parents will be real proud of you when you're working a deadend job and your boss is fucking your girlfriend. :^)
one example of whatever tf it is youre yammering on about?
Jesus fucking christ it sure is tumblr in here
You should all kys, fucking tranny pedophiles
>and 20 something year olds who acted like boomers.
they are the dumbest people on the planet
the dumbest
>war is bad
faggot
we haven't won a war since 1945 and it took Russia to do it. War is shit. Don't defend it or I will beat your fucking ass irl
what a fag lol
Correction*
What psychotic parents are doing to their boys today.
the US winning some war or not is totally irrelevant to my statement, mr internet toughguy
as opposed to what their chud parents taught them to like?
You literally live in some sort of "Wolf of Wallstreet" like fantasy. You're the dumbest piece of shit I've ever seen come to this website.
Congratulations.
Nigga if you think that you need to be a the level of "Wolf of Wall Street" to take advantage of people, you're the one that's hilariously oblivious.
Ah fuck, is summer here already?
This is great.
>What boys did back then: Play outside and have fun.
>What boys do today: Making complain threads on Yea Forums from their basement.
lmao look at this queer
Women are unfit to raise children without male supervision.
Dude. You're POOR. You do none of the shit that you talk. Why are you still here?
I'm pretty happy with my high-level professional degree and substantial base salary plus bonuses. Because I don't want to litigate forever, I think I will eventually transition into one of the industries I currently represent. Don't worry about me, sunshine. I'm going to be alright.
In a broad sense, of course people are taking advantage of me. I'm also not naive enough to think that there aren't huge components of society, government, economy, etc, that are taking advantage of me. They are taking advantage of everyone else too.
But regarding individuals, no. No matter what, you have flawed logic. Also, you've reached a conclusion for this, and now you're trying to back it up, but not providing any support for your claim. And since it's your claim, the burden of proof is yours to carry.
Maybe not focusing on shoving my dick in someone else's ass allows me to watch my own.
I get paid to argue with some of the brightest and some of the most stupid people around. It's fun when they're smart. When they are stupid, at least I'm getting paid. I'm not getting paid right now.
>you've reached a conclusion for this, and now you're trying to back it up, but not providing any support for your claim.
I'll take "basic human psychology" for 500, Alex.
Also, as I said, you're definitely retarded if you think that the individuals beside you or higher in the chain of command aren't taking advantage of you in any way they possibly can.
You don't have to worry your pretty little head over it however, some will profit and some won't.
We already know which side of that equation you're at. :)
>Getting upset on a taiwanese basket weaving board in 2019
Top zozzle, you're adorable.
Can I keep you?
>>Getting upset on a taiwanese basket weaving board in 2019
ironic
>Top zozzle, you're adorable.
>Can I keep you?
Y... Yes?
We need to take emergency control of these sanctuary cities.
That word.. I don't think it means what you think it means, buddy.
Nice.
>calling people out for getting upset on Yea Forums
>while typing out paragraphs of text arguing with people
the word applies
>Typing more than a short sentence is a sign of rectal rustling
I mean.. I'll give you a 4/10 for the effort, 2/10 for the end result.
Wait. Cawk in hand, should I continue pocket pool? Is that guy or girl with tiny tits?
honestly tho
Bring back Duels get rid of lawyers.
A man who think he has been damaged or offended? Should be willing to risk his life for his honor rather then to create mounds of fucking paperwork.
We need to become far less litigious in order to permit true creativity and innovation.
TLDR Burn Disney's trademarks.
m8
those are way longer than simple sentences
Yep.
i'm raping ur mom
u said i could do what i like
>honor
Now THATS ironic.
99-2003 'generation'
kek
... Yes, hence the specific words used in my sentence to describe the situation you're referring to.
You didn't do that well in school, did you?
lol fucking imagne this shit show... how about stop being so entitled about being damaged or being offended you flowers
Yeah, shooting someone in the chest doesn't pay my medical bills after a car accident.
Imagine being so angry, but so inarticulate that you can't express why.
Neither does a lawsuit.
Most of the time only the lawyer get paid.
Litigation is a huge waste of time and money.
TLDR We need thunderdome!
yeah i might be a bit of a dumbass
>medical bills
oof, sry aboot your nationality
Yeah, thats kind of the basis for philosophy and a lot of music and poetry... dramatic theater...
Duels would accomplish that.
The dead don't sue.
Alternatively we could execute both the lawyer and client on the losing side.
There are far too many out there who make a living with lawsuits.
If someone comes over to your place and smashes your windows, do you think it's entitled to want him to pay for new windows? Some douchebag is texting and runs a stop sign into your Ford Focus, do you think wanting him to pay for the body work is entitled? Or for your doctor when you have nerve damage?
As a corporate defense attorney, I know how litigious society has become. But that doesn't mean the other extreme is desirable.
>Alternatively we could execute both the lawyer and client on the losing side.
>There are far too many out there who make a living with lawsuits.
make it the party that made false accusations and you have my vote
They better be careful or one day soon the entire world WILL have something in common...
>jews are so bad that even tribals don't want them anymore
So who DOES want the Jew around, anyway?
Let me guess, you're bitter because you tried to sue and didn't get the result you expected?
>losing side.
>the party that made false accusations
Hopefully they are one and the same?
Regardless, population reduction is never a bad thing.
Or for your doctor when you have nerve damage?
definitely fucking yes, you should be grateful they saved your life instead of suing them because you have your pinky numb
it says don't identify w other generations
>loincloth and face paint
Fucking retard, all he had to do was read the article.
jews
that implies its a separate generation, which it is not
What's the point of this? Are you trying to say that all Jews are bad because one Orthodox group was asked to leave a village in Guatemala?
No worries, atleast you're aware of it and can work on it should you feel the need to.
Have a nice day user.
yes, yes i am
>Are you trying to say that all Catholics are bad because one group of priests molested children and covered it up?
reeeeee me big English speeker goodly
>I'm not a real American unless I'm taking advantage of someone
truer words never spoken
No I am bitter becasue as an early adopter of the internet I once owned a popular domain name for 3 years before a big conglomerate came in and took it though the trademark was over 75 years old and I was not in competition with them. Coca Cola just p[aid the shlub who bought their name 5K. This "Conglomerate" piled paperwork and lawsuits on me rather than to make even single offer to buy me out. I would have preferred a duel to litigious robbery.
Why? It's a community of around 200. Why should they represent millions of people?
Facts
While that can be the case, that is really not true. Also, my guess is that you don't understand what goes into litigating a case. That's okay, because it's not your industry and there is no reason for you to know. Litigating a case takes a ton of man hours. My annual income is sizeable. I'm not rich, but I was a poor kid who never thought I'd make much money. My hourly is still good, but it reduces a lot because I work so much. I know others who make less, and their real hourly pay is ridiculously low considering their expertise.
Attorneys put in a ton of effort learning the law in school and through their careers. Our continued expertise is worth something. Any decent attorney puts in a lot of work to get your results.
I'm not saying I don't know law firms that fuck people. There are some greedy fucks who just want to make money and their currently are nothing more than income. But that's not the majority of them. The rest of us really do work a lot to get the best results we can for our clients.
Thanks. Fucking sucks.
yes it is shithead it
is completely relevant
war is bad do you hear? I'll fucking punch you in the fucking cock if you keep sassing back
>Huge conglomerate agrees to duel
>Has army of expert duelists on standby thanks to massive financial resources at their disposal
>Duel begins, you are easily killed within seconds
>Huge conglomerate wins
I am willing to concede that one in ten lawyers might be decent?
Still not worth it.
Course I also say Cop should be required to take fire before they return it. Just like our military..
I know that would be very unpopular.
Simple answer is don't want to be in danger don't be a cop a soldier or a lawyer.
Direct conflict is preferable to this surreptitious stuff. BRING BACK DUELS!
Then I don't have to suffer the rest of the hell that is life.
Win Win.
found the neoconfederate
In most duels a surrogate was not permitted.
The principles were required to fight or concede.
See Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr...
In those days, duels were meant to settle personal disputes and had no bearing on legal matters.
Apply what ever label makes you feel superior.
I believe in the US Constitution.
I believe in one person one vote.
I believe most politicians lawyers and CEO's are cowards who should be run off like dogs.
There are frivolous malpractice suits. But people outside of law only hear about those. I have worked both plaintiff and defense. As a plaintiffs attorney, most all of my clients didn't want to sue but felt they had no other recourse.
It almost always doesn't make sense for a law firm to take a BS case. A plaintiffs firm has to front a lot of costs. If it's not a good case, the firm isn't making that money back and has wasted time that could have been used for something legitimate.
A doctor takes on responsibility when they agree to treat you. If they are negligent, they have not fulfilled that responsibility. The same is true for me as an attorney. The same is true for you in whatever capacities you interact with people. We have to, at least, leave people how we found them. We can't do harm.
There are firms that set up bullshit systems trying to get settlements. For example, a firm focusing on types of class action might take any client even loosely related to the litigation and include them in the pool. They are trying to make that pool as big as possible to increase damages awards. Then defense attorney have to go through, find those BS cases, and pick them apart. Eventually, after the defense has cut down the pool, there are usually settlements. The clients get a little each, while the attorneys take a percentage of the total amount, which is a lot more.
They should get paid. But fuck those firms. By the way, not every class action firm is like that either. That's just an example of how it can work. A lot of them legitimately want to help the public.
I could talk about this all day. It's something I really care about because I always want things to get better. But there are a lot of rabbit holes.
Not true at all.
As I pointed out with Hamilton and Burr.
Not even a neoconfederate. He's just a nutjob who lost one lawsuit and therefore all lawyers are bad and society would be better off without the rule of law.
>in my day kids were brain washed by the military industrial complex
>now kids are brain washed by the beauty industry
Honestly it was probbably worse before
Dunno, they're both awful; now instead of growing up disconcerted by a lack of violence, children grow up disconcerted by a lack of violence against them, and seem to stray further and further into the line of fire to try and take a shot and feel like some hard-done-by tragedy.
The truth is their lives are now all shit because of themselves and their denial, but which among them will admit they were wrong? Why would they?
The Hamilton-Burr duel was due to a personal dispute arising from Hamilton's opposition to Andrew Jackson's presidential campaign. This is 8th grade US history.
are you being misrepresented? holy shit this is exactly what is wrong with you kids.
Yep, now they all get to dress up like sluts and present their boypussies for us to fuck!
How many attorneys do you have in your social or professional circles? I have a lot. I can think of shitty ones. The rest of us do not associate with them. We're people, just like you. Maybe you've known a bad lawyer or two, so 100% of your experience is bad. Or maybe people have convinced you that most lawyers are greedy crooks. Whatever the reason, you're drawing an uninformed conclusion. I don't mean that as an insult. It's just a fact. Your knowledge of the majority of attorneys is limited. Therefore, your conclusion is not informed. Your concession is the same.
I'm not trying to argue in a negative way. I'm suggesting you be a little more open, and not draw conclusions before you're fully informed. There are many times throughout my days that I simply choose to not draw a conclusion at all because I just don't know.
No. Every liberal I've shown this to was creeped out too.
I lost because I could not pay the costs of travel and litigation not because I got my day in court.
I offered to sell my domain for the cost involved in transferring it and maintaining my site not even 3k.. They chose to sue instead.
As I said I owned and used the domain for 3 years. I was not just buying it to profit from their trademark. (And trademark law has been allowed to be extended far beyond the lifetime of any IP creator. The song happy birthday should be in the public domain by now.
autism.
It was a dispute over the US Government or a private bank controlling the currency.
Schools still teach Christopher Columbus discovered America. So much for that claim.
Yea thinking the weapons industry is "cool" is pretty stupid
You're 100% right
they're not doing that in saudi arabia
>bad lawyer or two,
Sorry brother I think the vast majority of you are corrupt. Defense or Prosecution? The World would be far better off without all of you.
I work with organized labor..
I love Mom and Pop business I hate multi national corporations.
Hope that helps.
I'm not disputing the fact that you were treated unfairly. I'm saying we shouldn't replace the current legal system with one based on organized violence just because ONE lawsuit didn't go your way.
>It was a dispute over the US Government or a private bank controlling the currency.
Do you have any evidence to support that?
>Yes, money is literally EVERYTHING.
Underage 100%
My reasoning is that many things we do are too time consuming with out any real finality.
Repetitive and malicious lawsuits need to end and copyright trademark and patent law need to be revised.
If you create something it should be yours until you die. Then it should be in the public domain.
Corporations are evil. (Unless we democratize them and place the control in the hands not of shareholders but employees.)
109 countries. Just a coincidence XDDD
Alright. Maybe I'd know better if I didn't work in the industry all these years.
I have represented labor unions. Two friends almost exclusively represent unions. Just because the adversary is entitled to legal representation doesn't mean their representatives are corrupt. Any if those individuals are, it doesn't mean most of the members of their profession are corrupt.
Also, you keep mentioning other beliefs you hold to explain your stance. But how those things are related isn't immediately clear. Regardless, your feelings on corporations doesn't mean the majority of people in a profession are corrupt. In fact, we might share at least some similar beliefs on the topic. But that doesn't justify some other tangentially related conclusion.
My friend, you're making a lot of leaps of logic to get where you've decided to go.
Do you know how to google?
Yes, and I haven't found any evidence to support your claim. Now it's your turn.
All people are corrupt, not a single exception.
The matter is down to what does the law say?
Which most often is utterly disregarded by those in your profession who turn all words in to lies.
You're right, your one anecdote dispels demonstrable evidence.
Well done!
Deadass fully saying that
If you're a good person then there's no need for Judaism. If you're not a good person then you probably have a religion to hide it or some other concept to fake shit out.
so brave
/Thread
Asian traps get a pass, bugmen aren't that masculine to begin with anyway.
No worries, boys still be playing with guns
Very brave
That's really not true. We don't disregard the law. How would that work?
In establishing liability or freedom from liability, we aren't you two primary things: (1) the facts, as supported by evidence, and (2) how the law should apply to those facts. First, there must be support for alleged fact.simply saying that something did or did not happen does not suffice. That is the first hurdle. Second, we argue interpretation of the law (be it constitutional, statutory, regulation, or established precedent) and application of it to the established facts.
It isn't about lying. And it most certainly isn't about disregarding the law. It is about supporting your position. Evidence that something did or did not happen. But the law is in your favor, and why.
Again, yes, there are exceptions. There are those attorneys who will do whatever it takes to get a favorable result. But, again, that is the exception and not the rule. If you have experience with those exceptions, I am very sorry. I take that very seriously because I take pride in my profession. Like most attorneys do. However, it isn't logical to steadfastly determine that those exceptions are the rule.
Consider it like the vocal minority in any situation. The majority doesn't truly hold the believe, but it seems they do because of how loudly the minority yells. The effects of corruption are loud. Those attorneys who do at in bad faith have a resounding effect on the profession and society's perception of the profession. But that still doesn't make it true that the majority of attorneys are corrupt.
Look brother if you defend a guilty man you are as guilty as he is. Unless he is either innocent or lies to you? You do not defend a guilty man it should be a crime. Anyone who is guilty should throw themselves on the mercy of the court.
Or maintain the lie?
But you would defend a man who confessed to you he had murdered someone as long as he could pay your price.
(I am assuming you worked in criminal defense in this case?)
Civil law would be slightly different matter.
But honestly unless we nationalize lawyers. The Government and the Wealthy / Corporations will always use your type to take advantage of the poor.
I am sorry good people are the exception not the norm which is why we need laws and rules that truly are applied fairly. You are not goint to accomplish that unless you even the field and take wealth out of the equation.
Welcome to 2019.
Welcome, to Clown World.
Im glad they left the hair on top for me to hold on to
Honk!
That's the best thing I've seen all day.
Where does the meme about antifa beating up veterans originate?
All memes originate here at Yea Forums or reddit.
No, I have only worked in civil law, never criminal. The reason that we defend the guilty and not guilty allied is because it is crucial to make the government carry its burden of proof. It is not simply about the guilty person in that case. If we do not require that the government prove someone is guilty each and every time, we run a huge risk that the innocent will be convicted.
If you think that a guilty person is morally obligated to admit their crime, then we agree. But that's morality. Do you want a system in which the government is able to accuse someone but not required to carry its burden of proof each and every time?
A good criminal defense attorney doesn't lie for their client. Instead, they make the state prove its case. taking away someone's freedom and sometimes their life is a big deal. Either everyone is entitled to a defense, or no one is.
That's not an empty maximum. It is a reality. The burden of proof is on the state in a criminal case. Society must make them carry that each and every time. The alternative is to dangerous and allows government abuse and tyranny.
As to what your suggestion of nationalized attorneys, this is a terrible idea for the same reason. If all attorneys are on the government payroll, how can we expect a fair trial when corrupt members of the government decide they want to prosecute someone?
We do have public defenders. That is because representation in a criminal case is a constitutionally guaranteed right in the United States. Public defender offices are publicly funded, and therefore are on the government payroll. However, because there are independent attorneys, we have a system and racially those officers can remain free from interference. But even under this system, those offices are almost always underfunded while prosecutors have enough money to carry out their duties. Why would we put even more people at a disadvantage?
Why the FUCK haven't you joined this server yet?
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Hard times give birth to strong men
Strong men lead to good times
Good times give birth to weak men
Weak men lead to hard times.
Cuz I'm not a fag.
Has some body edited that Jewface to look like a Muslim yet?
yum yum
The Second Amendment is how we control Tyranny in the Government (or really anywhere?) BRING BACK DUELS!
If a defendant is innocent or lies about his innocence he deserves a fair trial.
But if he confesses or during his attorneys investigation is proven to be guilty? He should be forced to plead as such. No more lifetime spent on death row either. Unless we hold people accountable for their actions? Chicanery thievery and cheating will continue to be rampant. As to the public defenders? They should be funded equal to the prosecutors dollar for dollar. And held to some serious standards as far as discovery is concerned. Justice is supposed to be blind.
Oh in my home state if you get a public defender he is required to defend you it is not free though win or lose the lawyers like the politicians get paid. After the case is resolved you get a bill and payments. So there is no free lunch for the innocent.
unfortunately, I can't continue this conversation as I have some other things to get too. However, this was one of the most civil exchanges I've had around here in a very long time.
I think we will fundamentally disagree on some things no matter what. However, I hope that you have a better experiences with attorneys in the future. I know a lot of things as close friends. My fiance is an attorney. And I know even more professionally. The vast majority are good, decent people who hold themselves and others to very high standards of professionalism and decency. I hope you meet more of them.
I have been in meetings, settlement conferences, and courtrooms in which an attorney Acted inappropriately. Believe me, the rest of us will never forget that. Reputation is everything.
As to the second amendment, it is not the only which I think is going to win the government. The rest are just as critical.
Have a good one and good luck.
If it helps, modern times hates you backwards thinking retards too
Keksimus. Car is a Volkswagen. Lol. 1488
pretty sure its bmw
God damn the dude holding the kek sign is a qt. How do I get to this meetup?
This chick can shitdildo with the best of them.
Let's not act like pretending to be murderers is any better.
Both are pretty strange and wrong when you think about it
Lion cubs play with their food, but are not fucked by adult lions nor are interested in fucking; we're ready to kill the moment we are born, because we need to eat, we're not ready to have a sexuality before puberty, because we're not supposed to procreate yet.