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first of all read the rules, no black holes and secondly the ants dont just drop on top of the marines of fly to them, they have to walk and as we all know, ants are not super fast.

I read the rules, I said even if no black holes.... they will still suffocate/crush them

do you realize the difference between a grahams number and a googolplex don't you?

if you divide gramahs number by a googolplex you basically still get a grahams number, it's like asking what would win, an infinite number of ants, or a finite number of marines, but over unlimited time

the ants obviously win

i do and i totally agree that the ants would win hands down, but i want people to argue about, give reasons why 1 side would win and come up with unique ways to compare the numbers.

he just gave u the reason u dumb fuck
one side is much larger than the other side, so much that you can reduce the size of the marines to just one marine and it would still be one marine vs Graham's number of ants

so you tell me, who wins - 1 soldier or graham's number of ants

Can we simplify the ratio of ants to humans?

The ants would win. That thar is a carpenter ant. What most people don't know is when they feel threatened they mass. Considering how much larger the number of ants are vs the marines, they'll easily have enough to dome over the marine (to a fairly impressive height at that). With the mass disparity, the marines never even had a chance.

roughly 10e16,999,900 to 1 in in terms of digits.

>he just gave u the reason u dumb fuck
i want more than "there are more ants" you dumb fuck, like describe how the fight would go, how long it would last shit like that.

Grahams number divided by a googolplex is a number so large that the number of its digits has so many digits you cant describe it with normal terms at all.

This is false

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Infinite air doesn't matter if the smoke doesn't dissipate. Even with some wind, it wouldn't be enough. And an entire googleplex of marines can't really move, except in it's borders. A large majority of those trapped inside the "fighting edge" would simply choke without even flaming their first flame

the ones in the middle wouldnt fucking use their flame throwers and the ones in the very middle wouldnt see the smoke from the flamethrowers at the edges for thousands(underestimated) of years, the group of marines is countless lightyears across.

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marines live longer than ants so they could just stay away from the ants and wait for them to die

fucking autistic thread

never claimed it was any good, but it sure is somehting fresh among all the porn, if you dont like it you can just go fap to traps instead.

so why are you here anyway?

no death by old age, read the OP, dingus

darnit

Not even him but you really call this topic "fresh"? Fucking hell

compared to the endless porn and shit logs of andy yes.
in any other context i would agree that its not fresh.

Exactly. So, there'd be this cloud of lethal smoke some distance around the border and as marines dies from it, their numbers shrink. Then the live marines would take over with their flamers, creating more smoke, which kills them and pushes the border even further in.

First off, the marines would have to spread out into a long, thin formation, or else the guys in the middle aren't doing shit. If they formed a line 6 deep, that would blanket the largest area possible in flame, and everybody could sleep in shifts to keep the flames constantly burning. It still wouldn't be enough, there are more digits in Graham's number than there are atoms in the known universe. There are more digits in the exponential representation of Graham's number than there are atoms in the universe. Eventually the marines would run out of fuel, and there would still be endless waves of ants coming at them. You could have a hydrogen bomb for every marine and it still would be like the mass of a single atom against all the matter in the universe.

are you just assuming there is no wind at all AND that the marines are so stupid to just keep using a weapon that kills them? word of flamethrowers killing marines would spread quite quickly.

Even with some wind, it wouldn't be enough. You're talking about a googleplex of flamethrowers burning 24/7 almost. Unless it's a hurricane, normal wind wouldn't be able to keep up with the ash, smoke, and CO2 output.

As for them using the flamethrowers, maybe they'd stop. But then, they'd be just overrun by the ants. Either way, there's no good outcome for them.

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Marines with infinite fuel and steamrollers that never stops moving eventually would crush all the ants. Little bastards can't get up on a moving crush wheel. That being said it would take the heat death of billions of universes to even begin to make a dent in the ants

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Ants. I don't think you realize how big of a number Graham's number actually is.

Googolplex is 10^10^100.
Graham's Number is about 10^80.

There would be more US Marines than there are atoms in the universe who would have to share each ant.

>Graham's Number is about 10^80.
WHAT? are you high or just stupid?

>Graham's Number is about 10^80.
snrk

So obviously the flamethrowers are completely irrelevant since they only have fuel for 900 octillion years, they can't make any kind of debt. Similarly for the handguns, given that they use bullets. So it's really just a question of feet.

yes.
the marines dont actually have a chance of winning, but i make the thread for the lulz and to get people to find out what graham's number is.

Now clearly a lot depends on how the ants approach. If, for example, they approach in single file, two people (for sleeping shift purposes) could keep up without any real problem (ignoring things like shoes wearing down); a googolplex is definitely not necessary. So the question starts to come down to, what is the best strategy for the ants?

Now Carpenter ants are about half an inch long, give or take. Given the proportions of an ant, we'll say they're an eighth of an inch wide, giving them a cross sectional density of 16 to a square inch (approximately).

just a quick question.
for how long would you be willing to do nothing but sleep and stomp ants in an area with nothing else than seemingly endless marines, ants and flat field?
i'd guess you could go a week maybe before you started considering suicide as an option.

The works record jump rope frequency is right around 450 jumps per minute, or 7 per second. That record was set in a thirty second period, but let's give the humans the benefit of the doubt and say they can keep that up. The question is, how long do their feet stay in the ground during these jumps? Each jump is about 140ms, meaning, from a kinematic perspective, we can calculate the liftoff speed of the jump.

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Assuming Earth gravity, a 140ms jump has a liftoff velocity of 70ms * 9.8m/s^2, which is about 0.7m/s. When the human lands, they have to change their velocity from -0.7m/s to 0.7m/s. We can calculate the minimum time to do that from knowing the maximum g force a foot can sustain without breaking.

i like where this is going, but it will end with the realisation that even if each marine killed a googolplex of ants per second, they would get bored and suicide long before they were done.

Human bone and tendons can't sustain more than 10k Newtons. Suppose the humans weigh 50kg, to make it as easy as possible for them. Then if they spend t time on the ground, 10kN = 50kg * 1.4m/s /t, so t = 70/10000, or 7ms. In other words, they spend about 5% of their jumping time on the ground which seems reasonable. Now we have to figure out how quickly ants can climb into the human during those 7 millisecond intervals.

I don't have a good source for Carpenter ant speed specifically but army ants apparently move about two inches per second, so we'll use that. A human foot has a length of about ten inches (usually a little longer but again, we'll give the humans the benefit of the doubt here). We said the ants are about 16 to a square inch, so in one second, twelve inches of foot receives in 16 * 10 * 2 ants, or 320 ants per second.

Rather than model the actual action of ants individually climbing onto a foot, the numbers here are large enough we can simply rely on averages. The foot is down 5% of the time, so every second, on average, 5% of 320 ants, or about 16 ants, will climb onto the human (it could be more than that, since humans have two feet and feet have more than one side, but this will suffice). How quickly does this become a problem? (Spoiler: pretty quickly).

I again don't have a good source for the mass of Carpenter ants specifically, but ants in general weight one to five milligrams. If we assume one milligram, then after a day, 86400 * 16 ants have climbed onto the human, weighing about 1.4kg. There's no real way to do deal with these ants. Killing then with your hands, for example, doesn't really help - jumping is much more effective (and is killing 40 million ants per day), hands won't make an impact. Breathing could become difficult at first, but in the end, within two years, a metric ton of ants - that's a billion ants - will be perched on top of the human, and the human will perish.

Note that this analysis doesn't take into account sleeping, which accelerates the process by a factor of 20 during sleeping hours.