Why do so many people on Yea Forums dislike transgenders...

Why do so many people on Yea Forums dislike transgenders? i would like to know what actually makes them feel that way rather than just a knee-jerk disgust.

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People will always object to the forced normalization of something inherently abnormal.

That doesn’t really justify it. Hating things just because they aren’t superficially normal is illogical

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Because like furfags, they made themselves into a plague and annoyed the shit out of everyone instead of just keeping to themselves and shutting the hell up.

Was hoping to see more but I guess that’s the only reason they had. I’m pre hormones and everything so more of a cross dresser but I pass in public so... but even after talking to anons like this and finding out we can be reasonable I’m either deemed “one of the good ones” or still hated because “it’s just weird”. They can’t let go of their disposition that trans are all weird ugly freaks, even with talking with one that proves it’s not always the case.

Those are transtrenders doing it for attention. You can’t take an internet meme and apply it to everyone. Have you ever met or spoken to an actual trans? Not one of these crazies that claim to be another gender without experiencing dysphoria, and flip when people “misgender” them. We aren’t like that. Little tumblr wannabes are like that

Then your "community" should be the most vocal against them. Every so-called minority victim group plays this same game. They all claim that the one's who cause people to hate them are just a small percentage of the entire group. If this is the case why do you let them represent you rather than being the dominant force getting them to shut the fuck up and behave themselves?

Why do I gotta take responsibility for them? Just cause they wanna scream loud? Fuck that. I want to just live in quiet. Maybe stop blaming a whole group for their small loud crazies. All Christians are like west Baptist and all white men are touchy pervs? No. They have some crazies and even if they are a loud, large group, they don’t represent the majority

i really don't give a shit if you're trans however i find it annoying that a civilized society is trying to normalize something thats definitively a mental disorder. like, if you're trans, go ahead, be a chick with a dick, nobody cares, but don't try to pass it off as normal

They’re mentally unstable to the point of denying reality and cutting off body parts to feel better. They should be put down like a rabid animal.

You highly qualify for being put down

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Whatever you say tranny. You’ll never be accepted, regardless of how “normal” you claim to be.

i don't trust men who pretend to be women and who invade women's spaces and speak over us despite sharing absolutely none of our female experiences such as pregnancy, menstruation, childbirth and misogyny. they are oblivious to their privilege and if you speak out against them taking over, you're considered a "bigot".

i was abused by men, why tf should i let you in my dressing rooms and bathrooms? go find a unisex one and stop forcing yourselves into our spaces.

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Because we have no proof you exist. If every exemplar of your group are the ones who act out then that's how people will respond to your group. As to your example, straight whites are always publicly disavowing their own kind.. They are the only group to do so and do this on a regular basis. That's because we no longer view ourselves as a community. Its your "community" its your job to police it. You stand back and smile while saying "they're not me" you might not like the end result.

My family accepts me, have a job where they seem to but it doesn’t matter, and I’ve been in a relationship for 11+ years. I’m perfectly happy despite not being normal. How about you user?

If you're so concerned about misogyny and abuse then why the fuck are you on Yea Forums? This is as toxic an environment as they come. And considering there are no women on the internet you're probably a tranny.

Also tits or gtfo.

Stop blaming all men for your one incident cunt. Some of those “men” have had just as rough a time. You think they’d transition if they didn’t have to? They purposely want to be hated? Stfu you stupid bitch. They don’t understand childbirth, periods and pregnancy but they shouldn’t need to to get support. If you run into one of those crazy tumblr bitches in a full beard and dress being obnoxious af you feel free to punch him tho

you know we make up 51% of the population right? do you really think this is a boys only club? and fuck no i won't show you my tits. idgaf if some sad rando on Yea Forums thinks i have a dick. anything to avoid the real subject of trannies taking over women's spaces right?

Of you can separate the two in your head you’re being a lazy bigot. All the high statistics and loud vulgar men mean all men are shitty and the non shitty ones better speak up and prove us wrong. That’s some stupid ass bullshit and you know it

Because we're biologically wired to oppose things that would result in the end of our species. Plus trannies are gross and don't even look like the gender they're trying to be.

You probably look like boogie2988

where did i blame all men for my trauma? way to put words in my mouth. i just want some women-only spaces like support groups and bathrooms, and if you can't understand why you should consider yourself lucky.

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Spoken like a true close minded twit

same reason people hated gays, they are always up in your face about it

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Call me whatever but if nature doesn't adhere to your ideology then I'm not going to either.

>where did i blame all men for my trauma?
You at least want to punish all of them for it
>i was abused by men, why tf should i let you in my dressing rooms and bathrooms?
Because not all men will abuse you you dumb cunt
You can have some cis women only spaces but you can’t have all the women spaces be cis only. Stop being a cold bitch and share some experiences with a trans woman. They experience abuse from men too

The measles vaccine causes autism or transgenderism. It's about a 10% chance of either when you get the shot. I found these stats on medicalinfo.info.

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Nah, more like mark hamil after the car accident

it really do be like that sometimes

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Because you have gender dysphoria and you are expecting everyone to treat you normally when you refuse to accept that you have an untreated mental illness and not some unique character trait that should be celebrated. You crave attention and validation for your sickness and you demean others who point this out or don't agree with you as bigots, yet you are the one who needs help.

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Look up some shit bro. Did you know nature is even crazier? There are species that can change their sex and even become pregnant. Their are animals that have gay sex for the pleasure. The worlds crazy, but enjoy your bubble

i never said i want to punish men, wtf are you on about? you are really good at assuming shit i never said or even inferred.
i just want women's bathrooms to be for actual women. i really don't think that's so crazy.

make your own support groups and stop making ours all about you. it's really not that hard. i don't come into your support groups and hijack them. have the same courtesy for us.

the only way to treat it right now, is in fact: transgenderism. crazy, i know

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I don't know but I also don't understand why most transgender people I have met expect to be treated by everyone normally, or in their opinion as well normally..

They are not the norm.

Now I will say there is no reason I won't treat you as another person but they don't always like it.

I have been yelled at for calling a tranny for what I would deem as normal. Such as calling them dude, or saying sir/ma'am. If you are polite about correcting me then who cares, but if you over react then yeah I'm going to care less about what you say or feel.

I understand trans people are not disgusting or revolting necessarily but I do not agree that you can tanspose another sex onto the one you were born as and pass of for everyone else that you are X or Y. Most trannies do not look like even a passable 3/10 of the opposite sex. I'm not trying to be rude or just say they are ugly but most of the time I feel like I'm looking at a man, dressing as a woman, speaking in a higher pitch/softer voice, with enough make up (SOMETIMES) to make a drag queen blush.

Idk man, I don't hate trannies, gays, or traps. As long as you don't bother me idc. However I will still admit that I do on a deeper level, like instinctual level, look at trans people with a narrower eye. Not out of hate, I think it's probably just a deep rooted societal and nature brain trigger.

Like seeing black furr moving in a lush green forest, stands out, or like a black man walking up in white face and saying "let's go throw bleach on a kneegro fellow cracker-boi". Ya know.. it just throws you off because it doesn't make sense to your "monkey Brian".

The only big problem I have with the community and many who support it are the ones who support trans-kids. I think that is a dark road to go down.

i gotta say, Yea Forums has had some crazy shit... but come on mate, still

>gender dysphoria
hmm, it seems like every time a new disease or condition is discovered or coined everyone seems to have it to sound cool

That’s some nice projection. I keep it quiet and if I ever get misgendered I move on just as quietly. I dread getting attention due to my “illness”. I’m good bro, I just don’t want people to wish death upon me if they find out

yeah autism was coined to make it sound "cool"

still what? literally all i'm asking is for trans people to make their own support spaces and stop hijacking cis women's spaces. what about that is so unreasonable? you have pushed us out of our own spaces and somehow we're the assholes? come on.

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This basically. I dont want to be forced to do anything.

I dont care what trannies do, but dont tell me I have to call a man a woman.

I still make a point to call trannies by their original name.

I dont believe you.

Your logic and reading comprehension is abysmal. As a representative of women, you’re the reason men think you all are dumb as bricks

cool for you to assume, because I'm defending trans people, I am trans. Y'all are a bit thick

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This, I don't mind if they ask polietly but do not tell me I am lying to myself.

you are the one accusing me of saying things i never said, user. notice i'm not hurling abuse at you the way you are at me. why so hostile?

Lol. Lolol. Lololol.

An ugly fat dyke hit on a chick.
But got triggered when she whipped out a dick.
So she entered a discussion.
About female oppression.
And cried when we just called her a prick.

No tits so gtfo.

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Well, if you went outside you'd probably see that Yea Forums doesn't make a majority of people

(づʘᨓʘ)づ not a big fan of this whole thread

I don’t dislike transgenders. I dislike them forcing their views and lifestyles on the rest of us and their own biological/adopted children.

Unfortunately since they refuse to tone it down we have to openly object to them in order to protect our own lifestyle and children.

A transgender child is like a vegan cat. We all know who’s making the decisions.

nah, i think i'll stay right here thanks. here's your last (You), have a nice Thursday.

very cool poem my dude 乁(.)ㄏ

very astutely said. pretty much sums it up.

You seem cool bro. I hate fellow trans that freak out like that. It’s like they refuse to accept that yeah, people are going to be a little uncomftand need some adjustment. Society hasn’t just accepted us to walk freely in half assed cross dressing
As for the kids, I don’t know what I’d do about it cause I don’t know a whole lot about the process. But if I had my say, the kids can “transition” whenever, at least socially. Let them cut hair and use their pronouns. But for hormones and surgery? They have to be over 18. I could be talked into 16 for blockers. But really it’s a big decision and it seems like they let anyone do it just for claiming they feel different. I’d require some therapy to make sure this is what they want

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I don’t give a shit about what they are or want to be. I’m just sick of them whining about everything.
>The people that dig them are chasers.
>The people that don’t want them around are Nazis
>the people that don’t understand them are mean
>the people that don’t know what to call them are “Assaulting” them every time they use the wrong pronoun.
Most people don’t care one way or the other until you start whining and piss them off!

It's not projection, go on social media for 10 seconds. People don't hate gays or transgenders, they hate attention whores. Full stop.

You can keep your damn spaces, just make some room for some of those spaces to include trans women too or at least don’t shit on them for wanting to be included. It’s reasonable that cis women would want just a space for themselves but it’s different to say trans women aren’t women and therefore aren’t to be included in any women spaces

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Making a point to use a dead name is being an asshole. If you slip up cause they look more man or woman than they are hoping, that’s fine. If you wanna be a dick and fuck up on purpose, also fine but they have every right to be rude to you back

John Hopkins created sex reassignment surgery and stopped it because the suicide rate was 20 times higher than the general population. Professional psychiatrists have labeled it a mental disorder and say it's treatable. Cutting your dick off so you can play professional dress up and cheat guys into fucking you because you're secretly gay is not a treatment.

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That’s a shame but it’s the truth. Is the proof that I haven’t killed myself despite coming out for 10 years. Before all this tumblr shit started to trend

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god i cant wait until this thread ends

That’s where your reading and logic fail you. You can only understand literal meanings. You didn’t actually say any of those things but your words and meaning imply them. Adults who’ve completed high school usually understand these things. Regardless, you also don’t seem to understand I have said wanting a cis women only place is fine. Just stop shutting on trans women for wanting a spot at the table and consider making some cis women only spaces and some where trans women can also be included. You could talk about how men have abused you

ヽ(-ヘ-)ノ this is a nice argument and all, but why would the spaces even be about men?

I wish trans had been a word I knew. Back when I was a kid tumblr and Yea Forums and the internet as we know it didn’t exist yet. I knew how I felt but didn’t know how to explain it. Parents don’t indoctrinate their children into being trans you stupid fuck. Not any more than a straight parent indoctrinated their kid into being straight

Yes, I know. Humans are not one of those species. You have a mental disorder and we shouldn't normalize and romanticize it.

>"hey, we made this support group for female victims of domestic violence to safely speak about their experiences."
>transwoman: *barges into the space and makes the other women feel so unsafe and uncomfortable they eventually leave*
>trans woman: "NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT MY EXPERIENCES AS A WOMYN."
>cis women: "can you leave this space for us please"
>trans woman: "BIGOT!!!!"

how hard is it to make your own support groups specifically for transwomen? again, i don't seek out trans* spaces and invade them. why can't you do the same for us?

>Being trans is cool
>We're not mentally ill
>4/5 trans people kill themselves

Yeah sure but I’m not one of them. So you took a internet meme of a person and projected it onto me. If you’re using social media to judge all trans you’re an idiot. Like using b to judge all men

You might not be trans but you're still a faggot.

It’s ok that you’re stupid but try and read sometime

>dislike ?
They act as if they're no different that a woman, knowing im into women. Then Im the one with the "problem" because Im not interested. I have no problem with them in general, but don't be mad at me cause Im not interested in a pretend female.

ヽ(-ヘ-)ノ pretty sure if it was a space about female victims of domestic violence, there'd be any kind of females.

sorry but i'm really not interested in continuing a discussion with someone who is going to put words in my mouth and insult my intelligence.

Because it's relentlessly spammed on Yea Forums when there is an entire board dedicated to lgbt...

ding ding ding! you got it! I'm gay! congrats you will now get no prizes.

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You’re the one that brought up vague ass nature. Now it’s gotta be humans only? So no attack helicopter jokes, human things only. I’m not asking anyone to romantic what I’ve got but if it were seen as a bit more normal, what would be the problem? You know this shit existed before the internet right? There are black and white films and old music made by trans. The world is crazy if you bothered to learn about it

Nobody cares and this is why everyone hates you.

pretty sure it's not because I'm gay, but ok

No. It has nothing to do with your sexuality and everything to do with the fact you are insufferable.

thanks ik

It’s seen as a women space and they see themselves as women. If they talk and act polite and just want support for their abuse experience, an experience they had because a man saw her as a woman, what’s the problem? Are you so traumatised that just the knowledges that someone was born with a dick (she might not even have it anymore) is too much to handle? Can’t even be in the same room? Sounds like you don’t need a space for women. You need to make your own group specifically for cis women if you need to avoid such a confrontation.
If someone came barging in like your example, I hope you kick them out, trans or not. You’d except that behaviour from a cis women?

¯\_(¬◡¬)_/¯ it's true, nobody should act like that anywhere

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y dont trans cut there dicks off?

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they do... kind of. with a surgery

It’s not cool it just is what it is
I don’t care if people see it as mental illness, I even consider it to be so who cares?
They do kill themselves and every asshole who brings it up fails or refuses to consider the constant bullying and unacceptence they face from society, friends, and family

>you need to make your own group for cis women
YES. YES. EXACTLY WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY. Thank you for finally understanding.

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The ones that freak out over you not being attracted to them are just tumblr tards. Reasonable people will accept that while you might be attracted to the outward form and body, your opinion on genitalia is different and that’s ok

>Why do people dislike Transgenders?

For the most part we don't... What we find irritating is trannies shoving it in our face all the time. I get it.. you feel like a woman so you took shots and lopped your dick off... neat.
>...ok
What you do with your body is your business... For example I like to get pissed on and tie up women. You don't see me proclaming the Pee gender and demanding fucking parades and equal rights. No one gives a fuck.

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I’m not putting words in your mouth. Your intelligence is why you can’t seem to keep up with this conversation. You haven’t bothered to speak back on any points, just run in circles and fall back on “oh you going to be rude now” as if you wouldn’t and didn’t start off with vitriol towards trans women

this thread inspired me to act not hatefull against trans, because i always had th idea in my mind of the stereotipical trans person who trys to ruin society. Didnt knew trans where aware of our position. fucking lib media brainwashed me

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yep, it's just a vocal minority who act like assholes[◡]

Maybe you should tell your trans friends to stop being obnoxious retards.

>Why do so many people on Yea Forums dislike transgenders?
I don't dislike transgenders, and they don't disgust me.
I genuinely feel sorry for trans people growing up in today's society because it is quite obviously a mental illness they are dealing with, and due to the loud fucks in the tranny camp they're not being properly treated.
This is setting a dangerous precedent for ignoring and or enabling mental instability.
I honestly feel that soon the same kind of "treatment" is going to be applied to most major mental illness because of this.

maybe you should also stop being an obnoxious retard.

Good but also accept that unless it says cis women only that trans women will be included. Women means them too even if you don’t like it. Make your own cis female safe space if you need your own and accept trans women into the women spaces.

anyway while we're on the subject, stop making up genders. theres no gender for fire. just be an otherkin like normal people smh

If you’re serious I’m glad to hear it. Media is bad but sometimes necessary. It’s hard but better to go to the source, even the speeches and rallies they talk about, watching them yourself and then watching the different outlets. You can see exactly how each side spins things

>also fine but they have every right to be rude to you back
Good.

>you’re black so please tell your black friends to stop being niggers
Nigga please

they not only try to force people into agreeing that it is normal and that they are actually women or men because of surgery but they also try to push that ideology onto children. If you spend an hour talking to them everything they say contradicts.
Gender is a social construct yet they for some reason dress as women, fight to use their bathrooms, and even cut off their dicks to try to copy real women. They are gay people in hiding at best or retarded degenerates at worst

Using the wrong pronouns on purpose is like not leaving a tip. You can do it and no one is going to stop you but you look like a major ass

>me: "i would like my own space for cis women please. it's okay for trans women to have their own spaces as well, and i will respect those spaces and not invade them. just please leave me a space for myself."
>you: "REEEEEEEEEEEE YOU WANT TO PUNISH ALL MEN! YOU ARE SO UNINTELLIGENT REEEEEEEEEE"

i'm done trying to reason with you because at this point you're just making shit up. stop talking at me now. if you don't want to be called abusive maybe stop being abusive. way to cement my point about needing my own space.

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When I say force i mean in a legal sense along with being violent. They also break the law to harass you yet they never get any repercussions. Not to mention how most are pedophiles

Color of the skin is the same as acting in a certain way.
Fuck off racist.

you haven't even made a point? ಠ_ಠ

We don't tip here, and I don't care what your spastic ass thinks of me.

You only talk about trans women which says to me you are pulling all of this out of your internet meme fed ass. Trans men exist as well and you should maybe take a step back and try to talk to some of these trannies before judging them based of off fake tumblr transtrenders

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I guess I’m done reasoning with you since you seem to be a dumb cunt. The top part of your free text is just fine. What are you reeeing for? You need your own space in a mental ward. You can have a cis women space and trans women can have a trans women space and “women” spaces that are unspecified are shared. Not that hard

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What a bunch of breitbart regurgitated bs

I’m calling you out. You sound just as fucking dumb. You think all trannies are friends and talk to each other? Stupid faggot

>cis women space and trans women can have a trans women space and “women” spaces that are unspecified are shared. Not that hard
cis women are just women
"women" aren't women, you fucking loon, and no shit women wouldn't want men in their fucking rape support group lmao

That’s fine, be an asshole in public if you want but if you bitch about trannies freaking out on you, it’s you’re own fault

I'm serious, I just had the idea that trans wanted to try to pervert society; which im obivious against. Kind of changed my mind about gays and trans.

they arent men are they?

I live in California and I go to a hyper liberal university doing communications and every class I have has at least 2 gay people or 1 trans. Along with beings friends with a mtf I know for a fact that they just want to be different
trans men and women don't exist its just a brains want to be more masculine of feminine based on its composition. Men and womens brains are different both in gray/ white matter ratios as well as chemical composition. Trans people have brains closer to the opposite sex .I've learned about all this bullshit to give the benefit of the doubt to trans people but ive only reinforced my points.

>they arent men are they?
traps are definitely men.

I don't want a fucking dick when I signed up for a pussy. There.

they aren't traps though. ヽ(□v□)ノ

I’m sorry to break this to you but cis women and trans women are two different kinds of women. You may not like the way society is changing but it is and you can’t stop it

maybe dont be a retard and fall for a dick you gay ass?

It's the new MySpace bisexual with 2x the degeneracy and 100% less potential for funny memes.

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Say what you will about transgenders, they are truly on the forefront of human evolution right now, I'm serious about that. As transgenderism becomes more commonplace, various transhuman ideas will be allowed to be tested within the general population, which could (and probably will) lead to technology that makes all human suffering a thing of the past. It's a natural progression, everything you hear and see about transgenders is just natural evolution of society, there's no need to be disgusted or appalled at anything that's happening right now, it's all just natural. I'm expecting great things in the future. I would join the tranners myself if I could pass, but I know I wouldn't, plus getting ahold of the necessary medications would be very difficult.

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>they aren't traps though. ヽ(□v□)ノ
are you going to pull some retarded "traps are anime crossdressers, trans people aren't traps" retardation on me now? Because if you are let me just preempt you and tell you you're fucking wrong, and go kill yourself retard.

>cis women and trans women are two different kinds of women
False. The former are just women, the latter are very disturbed men.

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Never have. Sorry you've tried to, but haven't either.

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If anyone tells you a group is trying to pervert society, I’m instantly suspicious about the person saying it. It’s easy to view groups thru a lens and color them all in but I’ve found that people are human. There’s almost always a human reason for doing something that sounds crazy

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Bye

That’s unfortunate. It’s been awhile since I’ve been in school and I’m afraid the tumblr trans trenders are more abundant than I thought. I fear it’s turned a lot of young people who were just confused into something they are not. Speak to some older trans and maybe they can sway you.

Your job is likely legally required to deal with your insane bullshit, your family loves the kid you used to be, and your girlfriend/boyfriend is fucked in the head. Don’t come here beggin for acceptance then try to play it off as if everyone already accepts you.

Because you are all annoying and you mutilate your bodies. Also none of you look passable. You look like horseshit

what are you on about? 乁(òಎó)ㄏ

That is not a treatment, that is accepting your madness

Then I’m afraid we can’t agree if you’re unwilling to accept those terms

last thing I believe trans people exist because of overpopulation causing men and women with bad genes to subconsciously ensure they wont reproduce so I support trans people in that fashion so we wont have to kill as many people to support our planet. They just can't adopt kids and expand their reach

Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina

still not trans.

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What?

(⫑▾⫒)︵ ━ C O R R E C T. WHICH IS WHY TRANS PEOPLE GET SURGERIES DONE TO MAKE THEMSELVES HAVE A PENIS/VAGINA

cutting a penis in half and inverting it does not a vagina make, you degenerate nutcase.

They do tho. I live in a liberal state so I imagine work is fine. My coworkers and I hang out outside of work so they can’t hate me much. My family might miss their old kid but not much has changed, they treat me the same. Probably cause they saw it coming. And if my partner is fucked in the head I guess that makes us a perfect match. Don’t be mad that a tranny is more happy than you. Better yourself instead. Maybe make a tranny friend

 ◡  they don't fucking invert dicks to make vaginas in the surgeries. it's like a transplant

I’m for it. Just like the people that feel like they need to cut an arm off. If therapy didn’t work and drugs don’t work, why force them to suffer? Help them amputate and be happy

I don’t define myself based off of genitals and neither do you. You judge based off clothes, hairstyle, and voice. Physical things we don’t cover up.

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In my view. You are born straight or gay.

To be trans you need to take hormones, get surgary. So it's completely against nature. Unless you want to do that pathetic I identiy as a woman but do nothing about it.

Plus kids are now being given hormone blockers which is fucking disgusting.

dang it. not dead yet (ง¬ ヘ¬ )ง

>against nature
Learn more about nature

I think people should make the best of who they ACTUALLY are, rather than trying to be something that they evidently are NOT.

Whether you are born as a genetically predetermined:
> XX girl, or
> XY boy,
you should aspire to be the best you ever can be in the body that you were born with.

It saddens me that some people just can't accept how they were actually born, and somehow feel compelled to become something else.

I think they should be given the best possible advice, regarding how to achieve their potential:
in the physical body that they were born with,
but in the event that they cannot tolerate that option, then I have to acknowledge that THEY deserve to live THEIR lives the way they wish to do so.

Maybe we all get just ONE chance at life and I am very happy with the opportunities that have come my way - and would not want to change anything .

However. if somebody else REALLY wants and NEEDS to change things significantly in a way I can't understand, then I think they should be afforded every opportunity to live their lives the way they want to, as long as it is not actually illegal to do so.

dude you're on fucking Yea Forums. stop acting like this (ง¬ ヘ¬ )ง

I don't care if someone wants to transition into a woman/man, but all the fucking trap threads on /soc/ piss me off. Are they trying to trick (trap) other dudes into thinking they're women...and jerk off to a guy...for teh lulz?

fair enough ᕳ─ಎ─ᕲ

Learn what 'In my view' means.

No ones trapping, it’s just the term used for mtf/cross dressers. They could call it the trans women thread so people are aware and it wouldn’t matter. Although trans woman implies surgery and hormones and trap refers more to twinky crossdressers. It’s just a term and used mostly on Yea Forums. Trap is considered derogatory outside the internet

Nature doesn’t care about your views or feelings

Don't hate Transgenders, it ain't their fault their brain be all wacky.

Hate the TransTrender

They willingly become trantrenders just like how 15 year olds decide to be all emo.

And one of the worst fake trantrenders for clicks is Laineybot

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I hate them because if you actually met one in real life you will quickly realize how mentally ill they are.

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> "... dude you're on fucking Yea Forums ..." ;

..... and I have almost certainly been here a damned sight longer that YOU have.

I keep coming back, almost daily, because I like many of the threads (like this one) that seem to cause controversy.

Many Yea Forumstards are:
> racist, sexist, ageist;
> etc-etc-etc-ist ;
and they are entitled to their bigoted opinions,
no matter how wrong they are.

Nevertheless, I happen to be a relatively intelligent and well informed Yea Forumstard that really believes that we are ALL born equally deserving of our opportunities to live our own lives to the best of our abilities, as long as it does not materially disadvantage other people (like yourself) who have no right whatsoever
to stick their fucking self-opinionated oars in where they have no right to be stirring up their psychotically irrational hatred.

--
Kind regards - Pepe Oldfag Wizard.

Nobody wants to pay for penis-removal surgeries, hormone medicines, etc.. Kill yourself already and stop being a net-burden on society.

I wholeheartedly agree mate, socially I don't care what you want to be. As long as I'm not being forced to call you something I don't care what people want to be called. My friends and I call each other faggots, gaibois, and occasionally nigger. If you think me calling you ma'am instead of sir will bother me, not a chance.

Kids can be socially trans again I don't care but I again agree with the physical transitioning and the therapy. Because I'm worried about the suicide rates for these people.

If this transition is supposed to make them happy then why is the suicide rate much more higher than the general pop?

There are many factors that play into it of course but taking someone's hormones and flipping them earlier than they do now may cause more issues. And I'm worried that if the rate climbs as these kids transition very early and change their minds as young teens to their twenties that they will be deviated at what they have done and what the adults have let them do.

I genuinely worry about trans kids and people. They are just people, strange to me albeit most of the time, but just humans going about their life probably as aimlessly as I feel I am sometimes.

I have had 25 years on this planet with a gun to my head twice (one mine and one someone else's) and now have a kid on the way. I am just barely now figuring out my end goal in life and it's still a mess.

The only thing I understand is we all have one shot at this (no pun intended) so I hate to see plenty of people cut their shot before the age of 30 even.

*Devistated not deviated

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>The only thing I understand is we all have one shot at this (no pun intended) so I hate to see plenty of people cut their shot before the age of 30 even.
Honestly it's a shame more traps don't take that shot. Pun definitely intended.

The suicide rate is high because of the social effects after transitioning. Imagine finally being happy with your body and able to live with dysphoria only to have all family and friends abandon you and a chance at new friends seems impossible since society still hates you. The ones that suicide were bullied or abandoned, it’s not the treatment itself but the reactions they get from going thru with it. Another reason I’d require a therapist. Even if you know it’s what you want you need to be aware of how you will be treated and if you can live with it. It’s hard to reverse and people should be 100% sure. As you said, you get one shot and it’s hard to know when your young even if you think you know everything
I knew how I felt when I was young but it was before the average person knew what a tranny even was. I know that kids can know, even at toddler age, but I worry that now the internet and social media exists, some kids just think they are trans because they saw someone else doing it. It wasn’t until I was in my 20s that I had decided I just couldn’t be my actual gender and be happy. It took trial and error to get there and making sure this would make me happier and I’m afraid kids that are just a little confused are going to find out they were just a tomboy or a little feminine and that a full transition wasn’t for them

Stop trying to be smart.

Not trying, sorry I type like an old nerd

I don't dislike people who suffer from a mental illness. If people act like shit. Try to decide what i can and cant say, want to pump kids full if hormones, have them strip or want me to entertain their delusions etc thats plenty of reasons to hate.

None of that is real tho so you hate a meme of a person

Ive seen it happen, so its definitely real. If you want to argue scale thats fine. But i clearly stated that i dont hate people for having a mental illness so i dont see the point nor do i see how you arrived at such a conclusion.

>if people act like shit
Anyone being shitty can be hated
>can and can’t say
They just want their pronouns used. If they ask nice and you purposely use the wrong one you’re just a dick but no ones forcing you
>pump kids full of hormones
All other trans I’ve spoken to agree that hormones should wait til 18,16 at youngest
>have them strip
What?
>entertain their delusions
Once again, no one is going to force you. You can be a dick and purposely call them the wrong gendered but you don’t have to associate with trans if you don’t want. Just don’t blindly hate

Personally, I hate that I have to pretend that this mentally ill person with the body of a linebacker is a woman or else there will be severe consequences. These mentally ill people are having their delusions reinforced until they get the awful fucking surgery and find out that they don't pass and are now a man with a gaping wound that is trying to close itself. All of the snide remarks don't change the fact that you are a disgusting degenerate who has mutilated yourself in a vain attempt to be something you are not and are pushing other mentally ill people to do the same.

None of that is true. I’d encourage you to take a skim thru the thread

well im no homo. if dat yo tang go ahead. ill just laugh.

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Define nicely.
The brain isn't fully developped at 16-18. They should atleast wait until 25.
Look up desmond is amazing. Its pretty horrific.
Not entertaining delusions and/or stating facts isn't being a dick. And then we end up in the "you are a dick so ill be a dick" circle because both consider being a dick to be different things and suddenly the "asked nicely" turns into hostility. There is no way in hell im going to lie by referring to a man as her. Names i dont care about, and i can use whatever nickname someone wants if they are nice, but im not acting like a retard who doesn't understand basic biology for anyone. If the person due to that acts like a piece of shit due to that they are a piece of shit. Meanwhile they will consider me the same and voila, hatred.

I have seen people come up with reasonable points and been responded to with "but think about their feefee's." The fact of the matter is that impressionable people are being told that they're trans and go along with it until they get the surgery and realize that dilation will stop their life in its tracks.

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If they’ve been going to therapy and are sure they want this than 18 seems like a fine limit but personally I might agree.
Desmond is one over glorified kid with a social media presence. I’m talking about normal everyday trans people, not attention whores and their parents.
You can be a stubborn dick, refusing to call someone what they prefer, but when they start being rude to you you’ve only asked it upon yourself. You don’t care that it’s “lying” you care to upset them. If you’re willing to use a different name, why not switch the pronouns too?
If you met a trans that passed so well you instinctively called them by their preferred pronoun but switch it when you find they are trans, you’re just being a dick and I wouldn’t blame them getting hostile. Don’t associate with trans if you want but don’t hate them for thinking youre an asshole is you’re going to be an asshole
It’s “lying” to call adoptive parents, parents isn’t it? By old definitions a mother is someone who has birthed a child. But it doesn’t hurt us to lie and call them parents anyway. It’s just being a decent human in society but I get the feeling even non trans people think you’re a dick

Which is why I’d require therapy to those that wish to transition. If reading is too much for you fine, but skim the thread if you want to jump in

I do not mind them as long as their mental deviation is not forced on me.

On the other hand, if someone says they are an amputee trapped in a healthy body, and they want to get their healthy feet cot off then they are diagnosed with mental disorder.
If some wants to cut off their healthy penis or breasts because they are trapped in the wrong sex body then it is all fine, and everyone must accept that.

WTF???

I think those people should go to therapy and if they are still miserable and suffering why not let them? They’ll attempt themselves anyway so just do it medically and let them live their life if it doesn’t hurt anyone. Let them be happy with one less foot. Let them fucking donate it idc

They are almost 100% of the time mentally unstable; in every way with insufferable personalities.

Why are you acting like you've made some bulletproof argument here? You've trotted out the same shit every other person who enables these sick people. You even stated that trans women are women which is completely deluded. These people are sick and need help but you push them to these extremes to justify the people who have done so previously. Therapy will not help these people because the social groups they hang around (other trannies) have to them that they do not need it because they need more people to keep their group delusion going.

they only bitch online, the only "retaliation" they have in real life is being an hero.

I don’t have an issue with trannies per se. They should be able to live as they please. The issue is when they take over female sports are say that a woman can have a penis. They’re guys who are feminine, but not women.

Transgender faggots are mostly okay. It’s the activists who are anti science. Faggots exist. Just accept them.

I haven’t made any bulletproof arguments but you are stating the same thing many anons already have and I’ve already addressed. I don’t wanna rehash the same shit again and I shouldn’t need to find relevant posts and link you. You can skim and read if you want to join a conversation.
If you can’t agree that trans women should be consider a woman, despite not having the chromosomes or genitalia, then we can’t agree. We judge people based on appearance, not chromosomes and you usually can’t see into someone pants until you’re intimate. Yeah, some are always going to be ugly but their are some mannish women and some girly looking men in the world. Why are you so hung up on what someone else does to themselves? Therapy helps and true trans people have gone thru it and recommend it. Don’t fall for propaganda. Don’t let the tumblr tard transtrenders define people that have existed well before. Trannies have made movies and music and existed for centuries user. Learn about actual trans and not this loud obnoxious group of children

Please learn more science and know that it is constantly changing and updating from what school taught you back in the day

18 should be the age. They can vote, pay taxes and join the military.

Transgenders are biologically male. There’s no science that is going to make them women. Stop it. Tranny faggots are their own thing. Not women though. I accept them, most are fags, more bitches for me.

Lol you think pressuring science into agreeing with you holds any merit.

Trannies who take over female sports are cheating. It’s not fair. Learn how to science kid.

What they have done doesn't make them less sick.

love boys
love girls
hate trannies
simple as

They aren’t actual women no, but to a random stranger they should be consider one. Unless it is necessary for medical or biological reasons, what’s the harm in letting them pass as female or male instead of their born gender? The term cis and trans exist to be able to distinguish when necessary, but in the grand scheme of living in society what’s it to you?

I’m not pressuring science to agree. Science isn’t peer pressured into anything. It’s theories with studies and evidence and hypothesis. I’m sorry you don’t enjoy the way society is changing

They arent women, because they’re not women. Women are adult human females. Transwomen are males. Get over it.

transgenders are male and started hrt after puberty. They still have male characteristics. We all can tell. I don’t misgender anyone. If they dress feminine I use feminine pronouns out of respect. I know they’re men though.

Lol...superficially. We dont want mental illness normalized.

It is fair enough to me. Is a trans man in a male sport cheating? Maybe you’re letting misogyny affect your views

There’s no such thing as cis. There’s women and transwomen.

Women=adult human females
Transwomen= adult human males that have taken on the social feminine woman role.

Totally different

You’re disgusted by it? By what another person does to their body? Fine. People are disgusted by people who let themselves become obese. You can be disgusted but don’t be pointlessly hateful

Not it’s a girl, she won’t ever win. When a man plays against women, it’s cheating. Transgenders are men.

You have mental illness. Seek help.

Personally, I'd be ambivalent to them if it wasn't thrown in my face whenever I wanted to criticize one of them. Same as blacks, jews, gays and so on.

Trans stuff is different.
Things that are different are easy to hate on.
Things that are easy to hate on get hated on alot because it easy and funny.
Even an idiot could do it.
Most people are idiots myself included.
So yeah, it's a shit rolls down hill effect.
I don't think most people really give a fuck... Do I talk shit about furries because it's easy, yes.
Do I really hate them or give a fuck what they do one way or the other, no.

So you see my child, it sucks for you because you are an idiot AND a tranny, so things will be hard. Because you are stupid and easy to pick on.

>Or something

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If someone nicely asks me to call them god or the lord im not doing that either. Same with wizard or goblin or elf etc. Never met a tranny i couldnt clock, if we are talking about that level of magical tranny they might aswell grow some ovaries and change their genetic makeup to female. A name is different you can change your name. Since im not adopted i cant really answer that. I sure wouldnt use the term birthmother tho. Mentioning reality isnt being a dick. If you think so, there is somethig very wrong with you. And yes, people have pretty much always hated me. Id like to think its made me better.

As long you can be respectful that’s all I can ask. I don’t consider them biological women, I consider them women in the societal sense. If they live, present, and dress as one. They are one. Sexually? Their sex will always be male

They are different but in terms of how society views people they are women. Cisgender is a term and you’ll have to adapt user

Then you know nothing. There are trans men who not only compete and do just fine but also win

By definition, a mental illness needs to be treatable to be classified as such. Just saying...

You seem to be the one mental disturbed. At least I’m living a good life, not hating others for their descisions

Yet you made a thread about how anons don’t like you.

Before 25 the brain is still developping rapidly. They cant even buy alcohol at 18.
25 is the bare minimum. Not budging on it. U mad?

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Not they’re transwomen not woman. Society views transwomen as something different than woman. Nobody uses cis except trannies. They’ll have to adapt to using women and trans woman. They have to accept they’re not women.

If you can sign up for military to die and go to prison as an adult, you can also choose to grow man tits with hrt.

Maybe in the US. But there is a lot wrong with the US. Your brain is literally developing until you die. Should you only be allowed to make important decisions when your dead?

I agree with this guy

Being triggered isn't anyone's fault but your own for being to dumb to control yourself.

If you can't handle the reality that you got a dick and balls that's ur problem not the world's. You want to be called Claire instead of chase then cool... You want me to say that your vagina has an erection... Not so cool

Love you but sorry, delusion only goes so far.


>But I feel like a woman.
>How would you know you've never been one.

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There are no transmen braking sporting records. They’re women, never will happen. I know reality dude.

I was more referring to mentally ill rather than disgusting (which they are as well). The point of being hateful towards this sort of behavior is that people are trying to normalize it (just like with fat people) and they need to realize that this is not normal and the people pushing it are doing so to validate their choice.

Because those are all crazy things that if even a non trans asked you’d sneer at. We’re talking things you call people everyday. He and she. That’s it.
You’ve never met one you couldn’t clock because you didn’t notice they were trans. Kind of the point.
Mentioning reality is being a dick when the person knows reality and is just asking you to be kind and call them the opposite pronoun. But you seem the type to be rude and call it “I’m just being honest”. You’re being honest but honesty isn’t always wanted. Maybe it’s made you better but I’m betting you just haven’t picked up on the social cues your friends give that you’re actually a pain to deal with

Munchausen Syndrome

I joined this thread I did not make it

I don’t hate them until they get the government involved. taxpayer money shouldn’t pay for your treatment, it’s not my problem.

They view them different if they know thy are trans. Most trans are trying to void that and be seen as the gender they are presenting as

i work with a male to female transgender person. one of the kindest smartest and most sincere people i have ever met. i use the pronouns she requests because she didnt act like the stereotypical pyschotic trans maniac and earned my respect.

But you haven’t bothered to check, instead just restate your own deep rooted beliefs and reinforce what you think. Break out user. Read. Learn more

>fat people
Oh you’re one of those

i make fun of people with mental illnesses because they have them and I don't and I'm better than them. Being a tranny or a bi fluid frying pan neutral gender whatever the fuck is also a mental illness. Just because the APA says its not doesn't mean jack shit in my book. They are a liberal catering pussified organizatoin.

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Time for a new tin foil hat bud

We all know dude. Most never pass, the majority. They have to accept they’re different and not women. They’re transwomen, which is a male.

Not saying there is some back room conspiracy. Just that the organization is a bunch of pussies and don't want to be seen as discriminatory calling a spade a spade. Why is being gay no longer a mental illness to them? It should be. Being gay is not natural. If it were, you'd be able to cum in a guy and get him pregnant.

I don’t need to, I live in reality.

Where? Olympic, UFC, MLB, NBA...where has a transman beat a man?

But the ones that pass count as the opposite then? Mannish women exist, girly men exist. Humans can look like all kinds of shit. Don’t say majority when you’re pulling that statistic from what your ass has seen on tumblr and twitter

IT'S MA'AM

Tits or gtfo

Being gay is no longer a mental illness because we’ve learned more. It’s natural enough to occur in nature in numerous species. Science grows and spades as they find new info. They don’t discount shit they don’t like

Ok
google.com/amp/s/www.wtsp.com/amp/article?section=sports&headline=first-transgender-male-boxer-wins-in-professional-debut&contentId=67-622542697

The ones that pass are still male, 99.5 don’t pass dude. The ones that do pass transitioned as kids before puberty, like Jazz Jennings. Of course that’s unethical imo.

You’re on the internet. You know how to use it don’t you?

not the user you're arguing with but I'd like to point out that mannish women still have both a vagina and period.

Just a common mental illness, nbd.
Trannies though, they’re fucked

Mental illnesses exist in tons of species, that argument is retarded.

Where’d you get that number? Your ass?
Trans have existed before this internet fad, before surgeries. Just because you browse the internet and see the worst examples doesn’t mean that’s all that exists
Also it is unethical for kids to take hormones before 18

Are you retarded? She won a fight, she’s not a champion or breaking records. She’s won’t ever be, because he’s female.

Transwomen break records and become champions when they compete against women, because they’re male.

Never has happened and never will.

Yes but do you know that when you meet them? Just by glance? No. Olently of women don’t have periods. Some are even born without a vag. Some are intersex

You think? Do you know what the suicide rate is for trannies? Waaaaay up there....so live it up Tackleberry, before you decide to take that final sleep.

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My eyes nigger. Even the trannies here use filters and special lightening, also airbrush. They looks like dude irl. I live in the city and see trannies often.

Got the number of a tranny hes annoying as all hell 9059069735

Being gay and being transgender, are pretty fucking different. Men have been fucking each other in the ass for thousands of years, fucking monkeys do that. You have see a monkey bash off it's own dick, and then try to get fucked by other monkey in it's dickless hole? I sure as hell haven't seen that in nature.

They do. What’s your point? Are you having trouble following? Science has updated and changed with new info and user is refusing to accept it

They’re just now getting the chance. And a win is a win faggot. He won despite his “disability”. Stop moving your goalpost

Continue to live in ignorance

Or...because...the APA didn't want to be seen as discriminatory and you had too many shitty shrinks not telling betas that can't get laid to go to the local strip club and quit being a fucking pussy.

I realize most of the trannies here are annoyed with what I’m saying. Let me ask, why is it so important to be a woman? Why can’t you just be a tranny? Why not have tranny rights instead of calling yourselves women, which we all know you’re not?

Lmao so you’re full of shit? You don’t know either

its more than just not superficially normal if its so hated then its most likely instinctively abnormal, if it wasn't then it would be like the fight for women to wear pants you crazed loon

Still talking about twitter trannies. Look up trannies that existed before this fad, before the internet

They won’t win. They have had just as much time as transwomen. Transwomen are breaking records and becoming champs. Transmen are not. Because transmen are competing against men and they’re female. Transwomen are males competing against women.

Reality isn’t ignorance.

No but if you bothered to learn more you’d find their are species that can change gender and become pregnant. Earth is crazy. What do you care if a guy wants to cut off his dick?

Whatever fits your narrative

Ya and humans aren’t one of those species.

I care because a lot of you want to government to pay for it.

I linked an article in this thread already. Look it up yourself or read motherfucker

I acknowledge a very small minority pass, most do not. It’s like an African with a 200 IQ. Sure they exist, but it’s like finding an albino tiger in the wild

Im tired of reading your typed up farts. If you pull it out of your ass at least attempt to clean your shit with a link to some evidence

I'll take confirmation bias for 1000, Alex.

Its not about being a different sex its about getting the attention for being a different sex. Because they're fucked up in the head. Most probably have shitty parents. Unforunately shrinks don't want to be seen as discriminatory and face a lawsuit so they cater to this mental illness while the root cause goes untreated. This is why so many commit suicide because boy, girl, or something in between it doesn't matter at the end of the day they just want to be loved and aren't truly happy. They're basically the biggest beta pussies in the world. (BTW you don't see trannies in poor areas of the world because they have real fuckin problems like oh they're cutting off our heads today or we need food) its simply a 1st world made up suburban white person pussy liberal university fuckin problem. Period. I'm right. You're wrong. Fuck off if you disagree.

It is if you are denying an easily searchable reality

Not humans dude lulz. Once you have cock, balls, xy in utero . That’s it. You’re forever a dude.

No but you can’t argue that it isn’t natural. Something in the brain gives them this dysphoria. Why do you care what they do as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone and makes them happier?

That's not a fucking point. Just because we didn't have a name for their mental illness doesn't mean that they weren't mentally ill.

No transman has ever been a champion in any major sports league or competition. No possible, they’re female.

I dislike the mentally ill. I feel the same way about serial killers.

But if it doesn’t you’re fine? I’m only asking you to not just blindly hate. Healthcare should be universal btw. If other countries can do it, it makes us look weak. Amazon could’ve used half of the taxes it was supposed to pay and still have money left over

>racist
Oh, you’re already a lost cause got it

You don’t like albino?

I only dislike how they think taking pills and having surgery suddenly changes their DNA.

It doesn't.

I think they're fucked up people and don't want them around my children encouraging this behavior as normal. That is why I care.

>one of those
You don't actually believe that fatness is genetic do you?

I don’t blindly hate. I have tranny friends. They’re internet friends but still friends. They know my beliefs and we just don’t discuss them. We got along great. It simply shouldn’t be my responsibility to pay for them. Even in a system with universal healthcare I would say the same. I shouldn’t have to pay for anything other than what is required to keep you alive.

I dont hate anyone, I just don't want to be forced into pretending that your mental illness is normal.

Go ahead and cut your dick off, sheesh

"The government, whose money comes from taxpayers, should pay for healthcare. If you already pay for health insurance you should pay more and be obligated to help pay for poor people's health care. Amazon, a business with no obligation to give their money away should give half their money away for the greater good...like a charity"

I'm going to take a different approach and say 'Because fuck the concept of genders entirely, they're buying into a false premise.'

Honestly just because the lgbt-activists suck and due to the huge amount of trap threads. If its clear its a trap from the beginning, then whatever, but dont try to trick people.

Is free plastic surgery universal? Getting a functional cock made into something should be a tax payer expense. Plenty of women who have babies feel upset at their post baby bodies. They want tummy tucks and new tits. Nobody pays for that, but we should pay for your balls and cock to be sharped into a bats mouth?

Sure for kids with cancer or disabilities, but not a tranny who want their dick cut off.

>The government, who creates and backstops the value of the currency people are paid in, should pay for healthcare. If you already pay for health insurance and make a median income chances are you would actually pay less in taxes than you do on your private plan. Those that benefit the most from the stability of a functioning civil society (i.e. the rich) should pay more and be obligated to help pay for their neighbour's healthcare. Amazon, a company that has profited greatly from lax enforcement of anti-trust legislation, should worry about good PR in the face of populism and possible changing regulatory landscape.

Not OP, but fixed that for you.

I was trying to nicely explain to the user who posted this how dumb his line of thinking was. I refuse to help anyone. I like freedom. Including the freedom to give everyone the middle finger. I'll handle my shit you handle yours. Taxation is theft.

Based

Taxation is rent.

See

The government's job is to govern. How is forcing me to pay for the bum nigger down the street with no job's bills governing? It seems like a sense of entitlement from a poor person. Whos opinions I don't value because they are poor and I'm better than them.

Good luck convincing any companies to give away billions of dollars for PR. How is life in fantasy-ville?