Transpeople with gender dysphoria have proven to be not mentally ill:
>"The diagnostic label gender identity disorder (GID) was used by the DSM until its reclassification as gender dysphoria in 2013, with the release of the DSM-5."
en.wikipedia.org
It's called "gender dysphoria" and not a "disorder". Psycologists are the experts, not you and you should accept what they say. A transwoman is irrefutably a real woman.
If a transwoman is a real woman where is the xx chromasomes?
there's no such thing as a real woman
prove me wrong
Wrong faggot
Chromosomes are meaningless and dont dictate if you are a man or woman.
this
They dictate if you are male or female. Male = man and female = woman.
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using science for an argument and dismissing science for another...
Science is only valid when it validates our political agenda, if it does not, we will harass the scientists until they say what we want
True! This is a fakt!
As long as the penis is feminine
Who cares, I dont want you near me if you think you were born in the wrong body. That goes for otherkin too, trannies aren't the only ones fucked in the head.
Defining your own gender is a ideology. Believing in made up shit is like beliving in Religion and force other people to do it too. Please do whatever you want but dont force other people to believe in your shit. Sorry for the harsh words.
If transgenderism is real, then how can gender be a social construct?
a translady is male (sex), but thinks he's female (gender). Claiming he is literally a female means that gender is not, in fact, a social construct but a set of behaviors given to each sex so the two cannot coexist.
Also, and more importantly, you're just fucking wrong. If someone has body dysmorphia (anorexia) and starves themselves to the point of malnutrition while still thinking they're fat, that doesn't mean they're fat... that mean's they are delusional and have body dysmorphia.
If someone cuts off their fucking penis because they think they're a female despite all evidence to the contrary, that doesn't make them a female, that makes them gender dysmorphic.
Suck my fat cock libtard.
These guys know what's up
My guess is they changed it cause of all the butthurt trannies and special snowflakes. It is a mental illness sorry
This. I think I'm an alien born in a human body. I know it's impossible, but it's just a very rigid recurring thought that makes me miserable. But guess what? I admit that it's retarded and that I'm fucked in the head. I don't go around forcing others to acknowledge my delusion and call me flapdarx the second. Take responsibility ffs.
>Sorry for the harsh words
Get the fuck off my Yea Forums.
I sometimes wonder if being transgender as a teen is the current version of being goth, emo or a weaboo.
Apology not accepted.
>Transpeople with gender dysphoria
>not mentally ill
Insightful post, user. Could be every generation has their "thing". very well could be a anti establishment for some.
no. male and female are biological and man and woman are psychological. boys aren't men and girls aren't women because they don't have the minds of men or women. trans people are male women or female men
I find it funny that trans people want us to view them as the opposite sex while clearly biologically you are the assigned sex at birth.
Why would I tell an anorexic person they are not fat when they view themselves as fat but a trans I have to support their delusion? Both have mental disorders where they view themselves physically different.
>If transgenderism is real
it is
>then how can gender be a social construct?
some aspects of it are, like boys liking blue and girls liking pink (used to be the opposite). some aspects of it come from biology. for example people who are genetically male but have the brains that look like a woman's or vice versa
nobody cares about DSM, give me the ICD definition
Let this be a warning, anons. If you learn hebrew, ((they)) will make sure you avoid the crashing of American traditionalism and make you a comfy spot on the top.
Its ironic how ((they)) are the most conservative and racist, yet they promote shit like this.
Final warning.
Also OP, stop samefagging.
That's literally the definition of cherry picking
>Be man
>Pretend to be woman
>Still have xy chromosomes
What is asserted without evidence can be discarded without evidence and there's no evidence a man can choose to be a woman
>Men can change into women and women to men
>Conversion therapy is archaic and fucked up
AHAHAAHHAHAHAHA SO DELUSIONAL OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
yo, twin
>boys liking blue and girls liking pink (used to be the opposite)
I always hear about this but never see any evidence. Can you please send me some?
Trans people are fucking retarded.
>Unironically wishing to become a woman even though you got lucky
Go away John Money. Your patient's suicide is your fault
Fuck You. Traps are Gay and Trans Monsters are worse than Faggots and Bull Dykes combined.
Found the Retard.
Kill yourself faggots
Bit of clarification for the sane people left in this thread, the DSM is the organisation most countries base their mental health books off of, and it's a guideline on mental illnesses. It being in the DSM-5, regardless of what it's called, makes it a mental illness. Even if it wasn't, its placement in the DSM wouldn't prove or disprove it. It's not a fact
I can't control the Fact that Trans people disgust me.
once trans people pushed their agenda on kids I am very anti trans at this point. I work with a trans person no issues. But "she" is a full adult and does not push any agenda on me. however if "she" ever asked me if I think he is a woman.. I would say he is a man.
I am not religious but the Christians were right. If we allow gay rights they will want more. We allow transgenderism they will go after kids. And you can see the sexualistion of all ages and people defending it. Abortion is another one they got right. Soon as you allow abortions 1st trimester they will want full term abortions. Hell you can abort a child already born in a few cities/states.
I'm very Anti-Trans, but that doesn't stop me from being professional with them at my job.
> I know a man who's transitioning to a woman and he's actually a bit conservative and is Oil and Gas Industry friendly. He's low key and doesn't like extra attention. So he's cool and I even call him by the name he wants. Although I avoid pronouns cause that shit aint going to happen.
>I also have a very politically active in law who's a woman transistioning into a man. She's a disgusting piece of shit that I want nothing to do with. She spews nothing but Marxist Trash and pushes nothing but decadence. I'd leave her for dead in a ditch if it were left up to me in an applicable situation.
boys aren't men and girls aren't women because they don't have the BODIES of men or women, you stupid fuck.
I'd call a tranny by their preffered pronouns but when I say a transwoman pronoun is a "she" that does not mean I think they're a real woman. The prounouns is only for politeness especially at work where discrimination rules take place.
I'm not that polite. Pronouns is where I draw the line. No woman will ever be a man. And no man will ever be a real woman.
>I know a man who's transitioning to a woman
Protip: no you don't.
Except trannies pre-date all those.
Maybe not personally, but I do professionally. He's alright. Not the brightest when it comes to A/V, but he's honest.
Oh yeah well, the DSM-5 said it so, it must be true
Hell, I used to have a customer back 15 years ago that was a Cross Dresser. I guess he was Trans before that became the in thing to say.
>He did Video Editing. Old School Expensive VCR stuff. He needed specific Computer needs for his equipment. I got him up and running, but I would have been better doing that job now than I was then. I didn't really understand why he needed specific controller cards when it came to that old professional video capture tech.
Anyway, he was pretty creepy, but kept it professional. He gave off a Buffalo Bill kind of vibe from Silence of the Lambs.
dubs of bait
This. I'm curious
You ever see a guy wearing a pink shirt? It's really not that big of a deal. It's just shades of red and blue. Although you could argue they are the colors most associated with genitalia.
Gender Roles are far more important than just liking a stupid color. Men should be men and girls should be girls. If a girl wants to be a tom boy that's fine, but she's got to understand she's going to be looked at as different. Doesn't matter what made up fantasy land BS these Hippies think they can push on our culture.
i got molested as a kid and now i want to cut off my dick but wikipedia says im not ill
Nobody in any medical or scientific field knows fucking anything about being transsexual.
These so called "EXPERTS" cant even distinguish the difference between a trutrans living a nightmarish existence of gender dysphoria and sjw 37 genders chrischan slashing open his septic asshole wound that he thinks he grew a vagina from listening to sissy hypno tracks on youtube.
Those same people are the people you think should be in charge of diagnostic criteria.
Transexuals have been demarginalized and used as an SJW propaganda piece to push leftist hatred, while real transsexuals are blackfaced by pedophiles, adult babies, special snowflakes, misdiagnosed autistics, and fetishists without gender dysphoria.
Pretty much this.
Oh I'm not arguing that it's wrong or anything neon hot pink with cyan or black as an accent kicks ass; i was just curious like the other user about blue and pink prefrences and social contructs were reversed.
Topkek
They can't give you a straight answer so they repeat what you already know as a filler and overload of information.
Idk about your pseudoscience pilpul. Trannies get the same amount of suspicion as sexual predators as actual convicted criminals do afaik.
To what ends?
gender is a made up nonsense term
its just a social construct
if i took your kid and put him on an island, he wouldnt randomly pick blue pants.
If I told him that all men wear dresses, hed put on a dress and be really fucking mad if you put him in jeans like a girl because hed think it was wrong.
tldr
youre fucking stupid
Nah... Pretty sure you've swallowed some Bullshit and that explains the stupid fucking shit you just posted.
>When your explanation requires some fantasy Island and situation...
This is exactly my attitude.
They are mentally ill, and anyone who doesn’t think this is an enabler.
They can believe what they want, as long as they don’t expect me to play along with that shit
>when user is so fucking stupid he thinks playing with a pink toy makes his kid become a homosexual or a blue toy makes his daughter grow a dick
user I know Kentucky education isnt very good but youre on the internet.
The bare minimum you could do is read a wikipedia article at least, instead of just making up things in your head and assuming thats how the world works.
Don't forget to occasionally breathe air.
Never said those things you stupid faggot.
No one give a fuck that you're gay. You realize that right? You're just embarrassing your family.
sick unrelated gibberish
have fun being retarded disneyxD
Except that a very careful exception has been carved out for gender dysphoria, trans people meet all the requirements for being diagnosed with mental illness as defined by Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. This is a recent change to the book and brought about by social pressure and not in the change in hard science. Also, the rates of other mental health issues with trans is so high it's hard to not see it as an indicator.
Just because you blackmailed some lab coats into not calling you crazy doesn't make you normal. Once you've finished venting your hate and rage on the rest of the world, you'll turn it on yourself.
Wrong. They're mentally ill no matter what quack scientists say.
>psychologists
>experts
pick one
ebin jej
(((psychologists))) will get hanged soon enough
look up John Money
>gender dysphoria
>Not mentally ill
Are you a little bit retarded?
Thats exactly what they did. Instead of being a mental disorder now it's something like "the discomfort one feels from being misgendered". That would be like if they started telling us schitzo wasn't a mental illness anymore, it's just the discomfort one feels from hearing voices in their head. The difference is the libs didn't adopt schitzos as their pet victims
Actually that particular edition was enforced due to pressure from outside forces. It follows the definition of disorder to the most accurate of it's definition. I'm not sure how much you know about psychology, as a psychologist I disagreed with that addition since it was added.
The general public has no idea that this very issue directly contributed to Nazi Germany. If you knew what they were burning in Weimar. You would have jumped right in and lent a helping hand. I know I would have.
>pick a mental illness
>rename "disorder" to "dysphoria"
>go hurrdurring around "it ain't a mental illness!"
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That's exactly what they do, you ignorant cunt.
If you want to cut off your dick something is wrong.
Bull fucking shit it's not a mental illness, if a schizophrenic patient is saying he's hearing voices and shit, you don't validate that the voices are truly there, you tell the motherfucker he's crazy and give him medication to stop the voices. If you were meant to be a woman or man you would have been one since birth, do not accept these people's delusions, tell them what they are. Fuck outa here with your mental illnesses. Why has Yea Forums been taken over by a horde of faggots? I'm going to start posting gore until you people fuck off
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