Why don't you own a semi-automatic rifle yet Yea Forums?

Now is the time to buy. You can get an identical rifle to hers for

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Because I don't have a micro-dick

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>tfw live in a state where I can just walk into a store and buy one, no licenses or anything needed

I'd shoot myself.

I live in canada ;(

Thanks for finding the lowest female dregs of society. No woman who fucks a nigger is worth the time of day so really, you're doing us all a favour there, Tyrone. And believe me, there are a whole lot of self-respecting women who have that very same opinion. Enjoy our cast-offs though and please, keep telling us you're superior. It just makes the joke funnier.

>getting paid $500 to take it up the ass for 30 mins

All my guns were lost in a horrible boating accident. My ar, my lever action, etc, etc.

Cause crossbows are the shit my dog. Think of all the perks it can have

AR, I just got a hellfire trigger!

I used to have several, but then I lost them in a tragic boating accident Mr. ATF agent.

Not a pussy.

It's perfectly legal to own several semi-automatic rifles, at least where I live.

I’m glad it’s so easy for you, and others like you but with less self control, to buy guns

Your gf, is she ok?

Gigantic waste of money, you could invest it and actually be doing something useful with your cash

Actually I bet you do. But this guy doesn't. Faggot.

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Right? Who needs hobbies or things you enjoy in life.

This post was as close to “I know you are but what am I” as you can get. Jesus.

because rifles should be fully auto

If you’re good enough you only need one to kill a deer. Git gud.

Any of you watch Beau of the Fifth Column?

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I've got a ruger AR-556.

That isn't the point of the 2nd Amendment.

Why don't you shut up about your stupid expensive gun fetish faggot. It's a dick. Suck it.

Well, we're kicking a lot of diseases ass. We gotta thin the population somehow.

And honestly those high school kids are dicks.

Because I live in a safe country and don't need a fucking dangerous hunk of metal to make feel comfy about my insecurities

be careful with that edge

Why not a shotgun?

>I'm afraid of inanimate objects

Typical eurocuck

Have you picked up an anti-materiel rifle yet?

ole ron no trigger discipline, sad

Shotgun effectiveness has been kinda exaggerated in movies. A single blast with a 12 gauge won't always put someone down.

If it’s a slug or 00/000 buckshot it more than likely will.

Why do you think it's dangerous? Do you not trust yourself?

I haven't tried shooting one yet.
Then again, I've only been to a formal shooting range once (maybe twice). It's something I wouldn't mind fighting my reluctance over.
I lost a lot of the tension I had about the matter after trying my dad's beretta on the range, maybe I'll find the thrill so many people talk about with a bigger/more powerful gun.

What like .50BMG? I can't buy one because #1 my rights are being infringed upon and #2 I don't have enough money. I'll just have to play pretend with my .308.

I know you are but what am I?

Imagine being dead.

Then imagine a magical wand that makes you dead.

Then imagine every idiot you've ever known having easy access to said magical wand.

Guns are dumb. And I'm a southern Americunt

It is dangerous. You gun nuts keep bleating about "civil war."

Why do you think insurance rates skyrocket when you buy a gun? It's because you're way more likely to shoot yourself or your kid with it than an imaginary home intruder.

But hey I'm sure you're smart enough to beat the odds on that one

I think .50 BMG with armor piercing, incendiary, tracer rounds is fairly anti-materiel. Also it's completely legal to buy a 20mm Solothurn or Lahti. Really the only guns not legal are machine guns made after May of 1986. Everything else is legal (Federally).

>.50 BMG with armor piercing, incendiary, tracer rounds

should
be
illegal

Because my 9mm is more than enough for home defense and rifles for hunting are cheating.

I may be addicted to building AR-15s.
Is recovery possible?

All guns should be taken away
anyone who does not comply should be executed, and their family billed for the bullets.

They can hole up Waco Style. But if the Branch Davidians taught us anything, it's that if the government wants to come in, they're coming in.

Poor

/thread

Hello fellow dungeon dweller

it's better that the poor not have guns anyways. they'd just waste it.

I'd use it to get rich.

Sounds like you'd use it to get dead.

I'm poor and own multiple guns.

Pretty faggy analogy as well as being ignorant of reality. The truth is anyone can make you dead barehanded but how easy it is for them depends on their size and strength. To use your Harry Potter analogy, everyone is born with a magic death wand, but of differing effectiveness. Tyrone and his friends have very powerful magic, especially after getting out of prison the first or second time. Magic is very sexist too; all women naturally have half the wand strength of men (or less) to defend themselves with. Guns simply solve this inequality.

Are you saying it’s waste of a gun? I’ve had experience shooting before, and last I’ve checked guns aren’t in short supply. I just don’t feel like making a 500$ investment to protect what little I have.

is she hunting the pedobear?
that's what happens when lolli grow up :(

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>Why do you think insurance rates skyrocket when you buy a gun?

Thefug you talking about?

Cool. There are degrees of poorness. And even if you technically can afford one it doesn’t mean it’s a wise purchase.

I'm smarter than that. I'd make 3K a week though.

tbh I view guns as a hobby and expense it as such

i don't wanna be tempted to shoot myself/others

Technically, it belongs to my mistress, but I do have access to a semi-auto and knowledge of how to use it.

...but I do?

To use your faggy response to my faggy analogy, that's like saying that because there's a miniscule risk of Tyrone using a disarming charm on you that you need to have permission from the Ministry of Magic to use the killing curse 24/7

Tossing up the sks pics nice

bro, you're supporting gun control. If your retarded self can have a gun, then everybody should be able to

bro, you're supporting socialism

Woah where'd that strawman come from??

Movies - yes.
Real life - no.
buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power

It hit me on the back of the head!

Eurofag, panty waisted libtard-Americunt, or some other flavor of subject that doesn't know what it's like to be a citizen?

Hey Mr Strawman! What's your name? Socialism? Nice to me you! What the hell are you doing here? You don't know?? ME neither!

>everybody should be able to have a gun
Replace "a gun" with healthcare.

Citizenship = owning unnecessary killing weapons?

Dude wtf kinda retarded shit you trying to say?

But there is one thing we do know mate and that's that it won't be your faggot ass kicking in the door. Pansy pussy fucks are all hard when they are sending someone else to face death for them.

Faggot.

Healthcare! Hey buddy! Meet my good friend socialism! I'm so glad my two strawman friends could finally meet!

You apparently do not know one single motherfucking thing about firearms or firearms ownership.

That owning a gun is dangerous and stupid, and that statistics backs me up

'unnecessary' and 'weapon' are mutually exclusive.

Actually what we learned from Waco is that the government has no problem burning children alive to achieve political goals.

Ohhhhhh so citizenship = owning killing weapon. Thanks for clearing that up. Sounds like a great place

>everybody should be able to have a gun
>Replace "a gun" with healthcare.
Everybody is able to have healthcare.
WTF are you babbling about?

and gun rights activists have no problem letting kids die so they can masturbate to AR-15s

No but trying to limit things people can own is stupid. No one is going to try and go on a rampage with a 50. After about a five shot string you start getting sticky bolt from pressure and heat. Not to mention your average bolt 50 is 5000 and hand loads with still cost about $6 a round for any accuracy

Not permission; it's a birthright.

That's another thing though! In our faggy example the Ministry of Magic itself is allowed to use the killing curse as it sees fit. Hypocrisy pure and simple.

No the insurance part. what fucked up shit head told you that or did you just make it up?

You’re right.
We didn’t kill your kids, so fuck off, we’re busy.

Can I own a bazooka? How about a slave?

A nuke? I promise I won't ever use it.

No regrets. If any thing getting I to guns has been better for me.

You have the birthright to kill people?

Hahahaha. You don't give A SINGLE FUCK about children dying. If you did you'd be working your ass of to ban swimming pools and privately owned motor vehicles.

But nice try faggot.

You can own a bazooka, and a slave.
You can own a nuke too. A 12 yr old boy made a nuclear reactor with parts he bought off eBay.

Dude that's a retared argument can I have a stock car to drive to work? Maybe my own cellphone tower or satalite

To defend myself and others with lethal force if necessary. Yes.

Of course we do. And so do you. You have the absolute natural right to kill any person whom you reasonably believe poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm to you or another innocent.

Smoke detectors right?

I believe so.

Dem trips tho

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Bazookas are legal in the U.S. It's a simple $200 transfer tax. Slavery is prohibited by the 13th amendment, but of course you don't know a fucking thing about the Constitution so I'm not surprised that slid by you.

Who gets to decide what's a threat and what isn't? Me? The person being killed?

Honestly the number of guns in this figure is low. It's likely much closer to 600 million guns. But the point is still valid.

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Ever heard of REGULATION?!?!!?+?(?!?!?+!-!-(6(&!&(;);?-!58&?!

I know it's a scary word to you libertarian idiots

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Yeah, promise like you're India!

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What about the nuke? You just let that slip by?

I'm going to assume that English is your first language and therefore you're capable of interpreting the words "reasonably believe". That is the legal standard. Was your belief reasonable? If a jury finds your belief was not reasonable then they will convict you. Simple, yes?

The person fucking your mom in the ass with a knife on her throat you dumb fuck. Even if you shoot to save a life you life is fucked anyway. It a choice no one wants to make. But if it's you or them you always pick yourself

>and also the highest gun deaths in the civilised world
We know it.
Now what?

Read about it man a 12year old made one as a project out of smoke detectors. You argument is pointless now

Do you believe stand your ground laws are 'reasonably' enforced? I've seen lots of white dudes get away with killing black men for 'self defence'. And I've seen lots of police officers get away with killing armed white dudes for 'self defence'

This retarded b-movie fantasy not representative of reality.
And yet is the primary reason gun-cunts want to fuck their guns

LOL no, not even fucking close.
Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, most of Africa, the Middle East, etc. all have much higher homicide and suicide rates with firearms than the US.

The day youre in that situation, shoot me an email. Until then, your far more likely to accidentally shoot your mom while she's refilling your Mountain Dew

i have healthcare and semi-auto rifles, but then again, i'm white, no, wait, that's not it, i educated myself, got a real job that has health benefits and i don't bitch when i don't have something i didn't work hard to get, grow up and take responsibility for yourselves

Bullshit - those studies were proven to be false years ago.

>civilised world
Are you retarded?
Or just American ?

Sounds about white

By who? Ben Shapiro?

Sigh. I guess you truly do not know fuck all about this topic.

The 2nd Amendment, as incorporated against the states via the 14th Amendment, has been held to include all such arms as a soldier might muster with, even including cannons and the like.

Certain weapons are not those that a soldier would muster with, and are in the category of those wielded by nation states. The U.S. does everything it can to prevent sovereign nations, over whom they have no authority, from obtaining nukes.

If you want to argue about this shit you really ought to read a few Supreme Court decisions and a couple (or dozen) books on the origins of the right.

Otherwise you're just pulling shit out of your ass and looking silly.

>proven
Prove it

>assuming

I have no need to and have other things to do than shoot for fun?

Like a yr ago they suggested the number was around 5 to 7 now.

>lots
weasel word

Dude I'm sorry dont bring fist or a knife to a gun fight just walk away and shut up that's the rules. 99.99% of the time people approach the gun owner acting hard and get pumped. It's a pussy move but it's a fact of life "god created man but colt made them equal"

cuck laws

one day i will live in a free country

kek

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>show up to the wrong thread
>>rolling on dubs

guns are great, shoot urself so we can laugh

So?
Amend it again,

The founding fathers were landed gentry writing the rules for their own benefit.
They are not deities, their words are not gospel.
Ameritards treat them like they are...because Ameritards are morons and easily led

Come walk in my city for a few nights your asshole will be puckered up you wouldn't shit for a week I have 300 rapes a year that get pushed though the hospital. Step out from mummy's dress and live a little

>If you want to argue about this shit you really ought to read a few Supreme Court decisions and a couple (or dozen) books on the origins of the right.

Can you recommend a few?
Or are you just pulling this out of your ass?

Look up the history of the 2nd amendment. It wasn't until the 80s that this revisionist history about gUnRiGhTs became a thing. A bunch of butthurt conservatives decided they needed something to be angry about after Roe v Wade and chose guns in order to mobilize their voters.

2nd amendment refers to a MILITIA, and any argument contrary is based on a late 20th century PR stunt

It's kinda like you keeping a rubber in your pocket. The odds are pretty slim your right.

Amen

That's nothing... the 12 year old's great-grandfather and great-uncle were each building one back in 1945. One lived in Hiroshima, and one lived in Nagasaki. Rumor is they both made a mistake when assembling them.

Yeah , London has a knife crime problem that they’ve let get out of hand...they are currently playing catch up with legislation in affect around the rest of the uk who dealt with their knife crime decades ago.

What does that have to do with America’s high gun death count?
Oh, right...nothing...it’s just a pathetic attempt at deflection.

Try harder Ameritard

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BAZINGA

> I have 300 rapes a year
Your poor anus must be like a burst ballon

Again you know fuck all about the topic. Black people successfully invoke the stand your ground defense in SYG states much more often than whites do, because they (statistically) are more likely to live in high crime areas and end up defending themselves.

And most people, probably including you, don't even understand SYG laws.

These are the elements when using lethal force in lawful self defense: Innocence, Imminence, Proportionality, Avoidance,
and Reasonableness.

Avoidance = if you can leave, consistent with your own safety, you must, before resorting to use of force.

All SYG laws do is remove "Avoidance", the other elements remain.

Avoidance means if you are in your house and someone breaks in, you have to run out the back door if you can do so safely.

History shows that in non-SYG states the government almost never believes that retreating can be more dangerous than not retreating, and in almost every case will prosecute you for not retreating.

This is insane.

If you felt it was safer to retreat than stand and fight, you'd retreat. It is almost NEVER safer to leave your house when your house is invaded. You don't know if there are others outside, you're likely abandoning other family members that are still inside, etc.

People shouldn't attack other people. If they do then the VICTIM should not have to retreat from the attacker. Ever. Why would you give the animals that advantage? Why hand them that benefit? It is insane.

Kek

Bro the fact that you have knife crime problems just show you how fucked you citizens are. It's not a gun or knife or club problem it's a people problem

Couldn’t drag me to that shit hole of a country if you paid me.
Not even hyperbole.

Kek

>Amend it again
Please do. Until then, please shut the fuck up about it.

Bro how do you like your odds if I give you a club and toss you in an arena with a guy with an ak?

>people problem

Really?

90’s - lots if knife crime
>specific legislation aimed at tackling knife crime
2000’s - low knife crime

Have you actually ‘tried’ doing anything about it?
No.

But really man shits fucked up. It's pretty awful most times the girls never even try to press charges.

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Then how does it get amended?

You're the kind of asshole who would've told slaves to get over it

Kek
I lost

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Muh Freedum (to obey these laws)

It's a fucking knife man a piece of fucking metal with a edge its fucking amazing to me that for idk 5000 years knives didn't do shit then bam 1990 oh fuck better stop the dangerous knives

Sure, I’ll support regulation when they strip you of your right to shitpost online.

You also won’t do anything to refute the point other than post a moronic meme and then sit back , sip coffee, and assume your not retarded.

By actual, credible researchers.
Shapiro is a Jew hack who talks fast.

To save you WHOLE LOT of effort, I would suggest reading "To Keep and Bear Arms: The Origins of an Anglo-American Right". The first serious, authoritative research of the right all the way back to the common law right in England.

Enjoy your non regulated poison water and your non regulated $500/MB internet

Yeah, you're cool, Nancy.

All of those places are civilized and have far stricter gun control than the US.
You’re a racist cunt.

The legislation specifically gave police extra stop and search powers, and gave judges fast track sentencing powers - along with extra funding for community outreach and school engagement.

And it worked.

Ameritards preferred solution?
DO NOTHING, IGNORE THE PROBLEM, AND PRAY IT GOES AWAY

How’s that working out?

You don't have any rights. None. What makes you so special to deserve anything?
>the english had a history of gun rights!!!!
Yeah, I'm sure the peasants made good use of them

Poorly

Why do you even think it's a problem?

I can have a pocket knife without a cop putting his whole hand up my ass! That's one plus. And stop and search is unconstitutional so it got tossed out we had that in NYC. So take a shot who always got stopped in NYC it wasn't the white guys lol

Because we had one school shooting in the UK and immediately banned guns and have had no school shootings since then.

What’s the current death count for gun deaths of school kids in America?
No point counting , it’ll be higher in an hour or so

Pocket knives were/are allowed, idiot

'cuz im a beaner, the citizenship is still a long way to go.

Guns are 100% not ban in UK just your average citizen cant own one. Trust me some of the best rifles and shotguns ever made came from you people.

You fail to look back far enough young Padwan Learner. For most of the duration of the Republic, and in the entire colonial period preceding it, the right to own and drill at arms was unquestioned. In fact, it was more than a right, it was a duty. One that the colonists in fact resented at times (and tried to shirk on occasion).

Until 1934 there were fundamentally no federal gun laws of any significance in this country. Then there was a period from 1934 until 1986 when the feds and states sort of ran amok.

The 2nd amendment wasn't the only one to be trampled upon during these years. The feds and states got away with a lot of constitutional abuses.

But over time, the necessary academic and historical research was conducted to illustrate the intent of the framers when the 2nd amendment was ratified, and the intent of the ratifiers when the 14th was ratified.

Sure, it took 50 years to fix this relatively new fangled notion of gun control, but sometimes combating evil is hard work and takes time. Some landmark cases take nearly a decade to wind their way through the courts to make it to SCOTUS for the necessary constitutional beat down.

And by the way, unless you are female, younger than 18, or older than 45, under federal law you are a member of the militia. Under state law you might be even if you are one of those things.

Also, you should brush up on your English and learn what dependent and independent clauses are. Education is important.

firearmsandliberty.com/kellerman-schaffer.html
Guy who wrote it is a PhD (like Kellerman, who coined the “22 times more likely to shoot a family member...”) but he also shows where Kellerman’s original research was flawed.
Even Gary Kleck (another PhD and criminologist) debunked Kellerman’s often cited study.

I know.
They are just heavily regulated.

Says the Euro-pissed on.

Because superior marksmen buy bolt actions.

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Not a legitimate unbiased source you faggot retard

Because I'm in new Zealand and the leader of my country basically just banned them

Are you seriously asking me how the Constitution gets amended? Really? I'll give you a hint. The procedure is contained within... wait for it... the Constitution.

I'm sure Google can help you out. I'll help you a tiny bit. It's in Article V.

Heller vs District of Columbia says you’re wrong about 2A being militia only.

good, live your life believing everything you're supposed to and don't think for yourself, sad way to go through life, i'm so glad i was born in the usa, you will never have any idea how great it is here and you will always be too ignorant and stupidly proud of your beliefs to find out otherwise, i feel sorry for you, i really do, and if you ever change your mind, we will welcome you, that's what we do here, don't believe everything that is forced down your throat or into your head, that's no way to go through life, i know, i'm free and i couldn't live any other way

So do you have assault knife ban I'm lost who gives a fuck about your gay knife laws. Get your teeth fixed eat some fish and think about 1776 and how America with just are civilized firearms could wipe you off the map.

You're an idiot.

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Ohhh shittt.
Redpilled.

You know the last time I worried/fantasised about shooting an armed robber breaking into my house?

Never. It’s never going to happen

I'd pay to see the look on ol' Tommy J's face when I fire off a full clip on a nigga in 3 seconds

>free
I’m also free, you mongoloid.
What does that even mean.
You are still restricted in your actions by the laws of the land, however arbitrary and archaic they may be

Heller tossed out 200 years of constitutional law based on a bunch of nonsense the originalists made up in the 1970s

Yes so the only ones that can have them are people who are wealthy or in power. It's a double standard its bullshit. You should have the same freedom and privilege as any person cop military or politician. As long as your not a criminal or fucking wack job

We gotta talk about it before it happens dumbass. You think you just wake up the next day and the amendment is written in? No. By telling people to shut up about their problems, you're telling them to never work for the change the want to see

Not an argument, you goal post moving cock gobbler.

Oh, well that’s fine isn’t it.
Only a small percentage of your murders were mass shootings that could have been prevented...so that’s fine.

Probably best to do absolutely nothing then...what’s a few children’s preventable deaths compared to your gun fetish?

All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights[...] [T]o secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men.

But in reality, you have exactly those rights that you, and people who steadfastly believe as you do, are willing and able to enforce by violence if necessary.

It has always been this way. It will always be this way. If you believe otherwise you are a child.

You sleep, relatively safe in your bed, able to hold these soft, flabby, faggot notions of sugar plums and roses, only because other men, men harder than you, have been willing to kill still other men, to secure that for you. Try not to give it away so easily.

No, you’ll just be beheaded by a pissed off Paki Muslim and your wife and daughter raped repeatedly until they convert.
Long live Allah.

It's a tragedy but yeah I'm not giving up my rights. That's the truth

>You know the last time I worried/fantasised about shooting an armed robber breaking into my house?
>Never. It’s never going to happen
100% of unarmed murder victims did not have a gun with them.

>wealthy or in power
No you fucking idiot

Farmer or Athlete are the main reasons to apply for gun ownership.
Being rich or a politician isn’t a legitimate reason for owning a gun ...I don’t even think there’s a checkbox for those categories on the application.

Jesus you are fucking ignorant. Won’t stop you spewing your bullshit though will it

Two things:

1) that's a misleading graph. Yeah, no shit your grandpa probably dies from a stroke than being shot up. It's the fucking US

2) That small percent still represents thousands of lives that are lost. Grow some empathy. Care for them and their families

>you: it’s the Constitution, it can be changed!
>amendment is clarified by SCOTUS
>you again: WHOAAAAA YOU CAN’T CHANGE IT THE WAY I DON’T LIKE IT!!!!

>your retarded
^^^^
That says you’re retarded, so you’ll just have to accept it as a legitimate source

100% of people who shit themselves weren't on a toilet

Hahah coming from someone who doesn't even know there own laws dont try to chim in on ours you idiot hahah

100% of armed murder victims were armed.
Statistics

People who have to take brain pills cant get guns

Have you actually read the Heller decision or any of the original research the justices cited? If you have not, then shut the fuck up, if you have, then how the fuck did you just pull those total fabrications out of your ass?

No.
Just like you don’t give a shit about your secondhand smoke helping to kill hundreds of thousands worldwide from your nasty fucking habit.

Your mother’s a whore and you were born a pinheaded Downie.
t. reputable Doctor guy

>know the law
My uncle owns a farm, and has a shotgun license.
If you have a legitimate reason for owning a gun, you can.
Just that “I like guns” isn’t a legitimate reason - in fact, we want to keep guns away from those people

I'm actually being pretty consistent. The SCOTUS completely disregarded hundreds of years of history and ignored hundreds of years of constitutional law in deciding Heller. The Constitution isn't amended by an unaccountable 5 person majority

This

I only know you bullshit laws becaue I hunted with a fuck from you backyard for a guided elk hunt. Basicly they can deny you a firearms permit for any reason or no reason its horse shit.

Perhaps I failed to be sufficiently articulate. What I intended to convey is that I'd rather not hear any more imbecilic whining about banning things until you and your limp dicked bretheren (and brain dead women) get off your collective asses and repeal the 2nd amendment. Once you do that then we can either have a civil war about it, or you'll win by default and can ban everything if you so choose.

Being paranoid has nothing to do with it. Target shooting is just plain fun.

I support banning smoking. You should too. It might ignite your strawman

Yeah and the sky is green in your world, and you’re a pretty pretty princess with a shiny chrome unicorn...

You’ve inadvertently proven my point, you realise

Sure you do, faggot. If you did you wouldn’t smoke poles all day long.

Says the downie.

retard

Imagine losing an argument to a downie.
Kek

Come and take 'em faggot. The Feds backed down at Bundy Ranch.

When things finally go, after we get done with the treasonous enforcers that kept their patches on, you faggots are going into the ditches.

See, this is why I support banning guns. Y'all gun weirdos fetishize civil war, and that's fucked up

Well, to be fair, you all don't have a written Constitution, so you fundamentally have only the rights that your overlords say you have. You have this insane thing called an "unwritten constitution", which is kind of like an unwritten warranty. Your overlords can change it any time they like. And even if every last one of you decides they don't like it there's not a fucking thing you can do about it, because you're a bunch of unarmed subjects. And if you're OK with that then there is no problem. Different strokes for different folks, and all that.

>not an argument

lol, first off I'm not of eastern Asian decent or Eskimo and although i am a native to north America i am not American Indian so that means i am not a Mongoloid, i am from European decent so that makes me a Caucasian, secondly, since the government of my country is under 250 years old, i'm betting you are the one with the archaic laws, not me, and lastly you say you are free yet you have no idea what that means, again, sad

That’s just what a downie would think.
Fucking downies.

The law actually works entirely by first precedent. Hate to break it to you

Bundy Ranch, you cocksucking faggoy.

Neither is yours, faggot.
Hypocrite much?

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Oh ok commie faggot

Um, no. Your ignorance is showing. As previously stated, other than laws requiring ownership of arms, shot, and powder in colonial times, up through independence, and until 1934, there were nearly no gun laws. So if Heller ignored anything they ignored about 50 years of shitty laws and jurisprudence, and in fact they ignored VERY little of that, strongly respecting stare decisis as they tend to do.

If you disagree please indicate which SCOTUS decisions they overturned in Heller. I'll wait.

The intention of the 2A was to regulate gun ownership. Read the drafts, read the commentary, learn 18th century grammar. It's pretty fucking clear.

>unwritten constitution
No, we have hundreds of laws, built up over centuries, enshrining what rights we do and do not have.
America based their own constitution off of the magma carta.

>we should make guns illegal, that will take them out of the hands of criminals that want to murder people!

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You say you’re free.
I can go to any street corner and place a bet, anywhere in my country.
Do you have that same “freedom”?

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Eh, not really. I'm honest enough to realize that even most gun owners have grown soft and complacent like you. If you limp dicks ever did manage to somehow get your shit together and repeal the 2nd amendment, there would be some isolated pockets of retaliation here and there, but for the most part most people would comply. The days of men risking their lives and their fortunes in defense of sacred principles is pretty much over. A great nation was built by such men, but in times of peace men grow soft and weak.

>I can go to any street corner and place a bet, anywhere in my country.
>Do you have that same “freedom”?
I don't even have to leave my house to do that.

U.S v Cruicshank and U.S. v Miller

Do yourself a favor and at the very least visit Wikipedia before making shit up on Yea Forums

It certainly makes spotting a “bad guy” much easier....they’ll be the ones with a gun. I guess the real problem is America doesn’t have effective community policing. Within minutes of a gun sighting in the UK, the entire place would be on lock down with an armed response unit.
Whereas America’s are too incompetent and their police too poorly trained and under funded to be able pull that off

Here in Texas I have no obligation to back down or flee. In my home, lethal force with no warning is perfectly fine with tons of jurisprudence. We've had officers killed in no-knock raids and the shooters were nobilled.

At least I don't get a hard-on thinking about murder

Don't be mad bro.
bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/britains-unwritten-constitution

>Nevada and Louisiana are the only two states in which casino-style gambling is legal statewide. There are significant restrictions pertaining to interstate and online gambling.

Muh Freedum

now this is long but you really need to watch this, all of you in fact, this explains the second amendments in our bill of rights pretty clearly, including the grammar of the time and how it still relates to today's meanings, Jefferson and company really were brilliant, genius even

youtube.com/watch?v=rhBwHiLcTG8

My permit just came in the mail last week and I haven’t had time to go to the gun shop yet

We do not have an “unwritten constitution”, we have a written set of laws.
It’s not too difficult to understand.

Do yourself a favor and get your information from sources other than animated YouTube videos

>U.S v Cruicshank
Wow, do you really believe that SCOTUS set aside Cruicshank and Miller in Heller? Really? If anything they relied upon Miller numerous times in their opinion. Yes they said that Justice Stevens was trying to interpret Miller in a way not supported by that holding, but that's far from setting it aside.

From one particular footnote:
None of the Court’s precedents forecloses the Court’s interpretation. Neither United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553, nor Presser v. Illinois, 116 U. S. 252, 264–265, refutes the individual-rights interpretation. United States v. Miller, 307 U. S. 174, does not limit the right to keep and bear arms to militia purposes, but rather limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes.

wow, you are comparing freedom of speech and the right to bear arms, not to mention other freedoms, to gambling? not even in the same solar system mate

>It certainly makes spotting a “bad guy” much easier....they’ll be the ones with a gun.

"911 what's your emergency?"
"Some guy just tried to rob me."
"Are you injured, Sir?"
"No, I'm OK"
"Can you describe the person who attacked you?"
"Yeah, Um, He's a black male. About 5'10". Wearing jeans and a black hoodie with 5 bullet holes in it"

Right. And you shouldn't have to back down. But others here argue that Avoidance should be necessary and you should not have the right, Castle Doctrine, SYG, or otherwise to remain where you have a right to be and repel violence with reasonable force when necessary.

Well I'm glad to hear it. It would be very strange if you did.

Because I'm a real man, I carry a knife. Guns are for girls and faggots, matey

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That may be true, but I think enough of the military itself would not comply with repealing the 2nd amendment that those pockets of retaliation wouldn't be stamped out so easily.

Yes everyone has become a pussy in the 21st century, but like someone said earlier in the thread, giving up your ability to use lethal force is putting yourself at the mercy of everyone who does have it. Legal gun ownership probably saves more innocent lives than it ends.

>911
*beep beep beep*
Weird...no answer?!

figured i'd dumb it down for you and the animation would make it easier for your simple mind, sorry for your short attention span and your quick-to-judge attitude at a glace mentality

There is no argument or debate.

When you faggots go for the 2nd, the issue will be solved in blood.

You faggot soyboys and the pension pumping Constitution hating cops won't last long.

The sooner the better. But later is fine as well. It's inevitable at this point.

Fuck your bullshit. Your mouth running will stop when bullets blow out your lungs.

See, Americans just can’t comprehend the efficiency of our systems

Hey, I'm just one guy. You need to take this up with the thousands of people who have written articles about your unwritten constitution.

I have a normal sized penis. I plenty of hobbies. Guns are boring.

Mom told me to tell you that your ramen’s ready and come eat at the table.
And she said to tell you, when you start to cry and argue, that yes, she knows it’s an online only game. But you have to get yourself to a save point THIS INSTANT or she’ll throw your ramen away and then you’re grounded.
Hey, don’t yell at me - I’m just telling you what she said.

Florida changed firearm age requirement to 21 :(

You do realize the majority opinions quote other cases all the time even when they have literally nothing to do with the matter at hand, right? At the end of the day, Heller overturned the other cases, even if the conservative justices convinced you that they were just 'building' on history

I would oppose a written constitution on the grounds it would make us more like the Americans.

My penis is sufficiently large and functional.

Muh freedums

I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

B-but MooOOOOOM

Hang on guys...I gotta go.
FML I hate my Mom

I generally don't say dumb edgy shit like him, but I would have no problem defending my right to bear arms with lethal force, and many others feel the same. The pushback would not be a joke.

You do know that when SCOTUS ignores stare decisis and sets a prior SCOTUS decision aside, they make a pretty big fucking deal about it and are very clear on the matter. They don't try to sneak it by and pretend that they didn't just do it.

In fact I think they went out of their way to explain how their decision comports with those prior decisions. SCOTUS is VERY unwilling to overturn their own precedent, even when doing so would be the most constitutionally correct thing to do.

This is why Wickard v Fillburn still stands, though it should have gone down in flames decades ago.

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There are going to be a ton of shitbirds in this conversation that have no clue what that is. Which is sort of sad. Can you imagine having to depend upon others to defend you? It's kind of sad, but in a funny sort of way.

So, you would happily kill members of the police and armed forces in the execution of their duties .

See , in a sane society , that would already preclude you from owning a gun...in Ameritard, it seems to be the primary reason for owning one.

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That all you got faggoy?

Mom says you’re grounded...and she’s hidden the Nintendo switch.

Don’t blame me Josh, I tried to warn you

You do realize that is the exact reason the 2nd amendment was ratified, right?

>So, you would happily kill members of the police and armed forces in the execution of their duties .

Violating the Constitution is not their duties.
Kinda cool how that Constitution thing works.

>the UK
>so miserable people are willing to take the time to kill each other with files

most 'murican thing i evur dun did see

Long night on the rez Chief Runs With Premise? Why don't you go to bed with your squaw Stuck In Rut?

So, the constitution is right, because it’s the constitution?
Circular reasoning.

What if they amended the constitution?
It’s still right because it’s the constitution.
Only now you’re a criminal.

Um, Yeah Sport, That's how it works.

Right.
Sport.
That’s how it works.

I do not think your logical conclusion is leading you where you think it is

Because things like the Holocaust and genocide and civil unrest and home invasions and tyrannical governments are all works of fiction... no one's ever had armed criminals break into their house, never happened

I definitely wouldn't be happy about it, but yes if they complied with the government and attempted to disarm us I would kill them.

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The law and our government is only valid so long as it supports the Constitutions Founding Intent.

That's not up to a vote or judge. It's if even just one American decides it's too far gone and decides violence is the answer. Civil conflicts are won by a mere 3% of the population committing to violent means. Vastly more than 3% of Americans would take to armed revolt over the 2nd Amendment.... Other subjects are quickly reaching boiling points currently.

If you don't like it, get the fuck out, if you're not here, stay the fuck out and if you won't leave but insist, then don't run when it goes down, you'll just die tired.

It's not a debate or argument, it's war.

>Holocaust and genocide and civil unrest
Gun ownership has never prevented those things from happening in the past

Flawed premise , illogical conclusion

That, my retarded friend, is what is known in political circles as Anarchy

They would actually be violating the law and violating their duty by enforcing illegal "laws". you're not from America and you clearly know nothing about the law or Constitution here. The Constitution for a government is important because it's the thing that legitimizes the government, it keeps it from being a legitimate government versus a criminal Syndicate who stealing your money to implement their will upon you

>if even just one American decides it's too far gone and decides violence is the answe
I think you’ll find if just one, he’d be taken out by a sniper

Liberty and anarchy are close relatives, but different enough.

Keep yapping your mouth and typing your bullshit. That's not what will settle this. Blood and the stench of death and burning flesh will decide the matter and many others.

You faggoys don't fare too well on those levels.

Yup.
Seems retarded.
I don’t get the mentality.

A bunch of rich landed gentry revolted against their colonial benefactors a few hundred years ago - therefore the piece of paper they wrote on is now a fundamental law of nature?!

Sounds retarded.

Explain Bundy Ranch. The feds and police backed down.

I told you before Josh.
No more Ramen for you

You explain it faggot.
I’m not interested

>Blood and the stench of death
The smell of America
Fuck Yeah!

We Americans, especially us Texans don't give a fuck about you, even less about what you think.

It is however responsible for the existence of the United States of America. So we're kinda attached to it.

Can't even win the debate portion.

The practical part is going to be a laugh fest.. Well, we'll at least laugh instead of crying. I'll take no joy in it, but I'm ok with doing necessary but important work.

That's exactly what they said when America declared independence. How'd that work out for old King George? Not so good I guess.

Tree of liberty and all that.