I'm in rehab AMA

There's addiction and dependence. Addiction is mental/emotional. Dependence is the physical aspect. You can be addicted without a physical, chemical dependence. That's why people get addicted to gambling, or people who smoke cigarettes prefer vaping to chewing gum (because holding something to your mouth and taking a long drag helps to satisfy the mental addiction just cigarettes instead of just the nicotine).

Yeah you just have no standards. If you didn't do that, you'd be bummed out, not like those bennies where you'd be lucky to escape alive. Being bummed out is not a withdrawal symptom, my dude, that's your steady psychological state that you are masking with droogs.

Its not more addictive then apples.

Good luck and get to some NA meetings if you can, I'm just out of rehab for benzos, opiates and alcohol addiction.

I've stolen more drugs than I can remember from my mom, my dad, my mother in law, my land lord, a vet hospital, clients, my wife, etc. Mostly hydro, but I've also yoinked muscle relaxers, LOTS of benzos, sleeping pills of all kinds... pretty much anything I thought would make me high. I hate myself and want to die.

OP is underage. This sounds like some little bitch that got caught and told he has a weed “addiction”.

I dont know if im going back to NA meetings i wanna drink occasionally beer. Those guy are all or nothing. i just wanna quit weed and benzos

You are weak if you get addicted to anything. If you can't resist the urge to harm yourself, you're literally a beta.

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i have severe ptsd and anxiety

also addiction runs thru my family

Only pussies get ptsd and can't deal with anxiety. No excuse for being a beta.

b8

If you're an addict, total abstinence is basically your only option mate. Atleast in my case there isn't such thing as moderation. Thats with all mind altering substances, relationships and gambling too.

you are just a fucktard if you had a degree in psychology/psychiatry you'd think differently

Look up SMART Recovery, you might like their meetings. I run meetings every other week where I live. Also, treat the underlying issues and it'll help the addiction part of it. EMDR is great for any kind of trauma.

no its me op

That's called not having will power cunt

i feel like shit. at least they have beer without alcohol

college freshman with an adderall addiction, tell me how fucked i am

This is good bait.

The word "addiction" is just an excuse to continue to perform behaviors that negatively effect you because you get satisfaction by performing them.

apples dont make you hallucinate, retard

i had a speed addiction (base amphetamine) and other hard-drugs this isn't my first time in rehab. you might be a fucked up geeker like i was

Gr8 b8 m8 but no one cares. If that's your truth then that's fine, live your life and pray to god your children aren't addicts.

I live in the Netherlands so i don't know if they have those meeting there

b8

Maybe not in that case, but they do have a big online community you could join.

op here gonna shave my face and smoke a cig brb

im gonna do some research thanks m8

>if compulsive pot smoking is addiction we need to redefine addiction to include all compulsive behaviors, which isn't supported by current research
people have already redefined addiction to basically mean "habitually does a thing" so inclusive of physical dependency and simply behavioral compulsions
welcome to newspeak, research has nothing to do with it, we're talking about the very definitions of words

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This is a load of shit btw I smoked skunk every day for 5 years and when I quit I experienced cannabis induced psychosis and was hospitalised for several days.

Right but I'm not worried about what idiots say on the internet so it's easier to stay focused.

no you didnt

...Yeah, I did mate. Why would I make that up.

lmao found the 12 stepper

It does happen user. It happened to me. Well, I had a serious depersonalisation episode which was pretty scary but thankfully it passed and I don't smoke green anymore.

They're not right, just some moron making up bullshit. Just focus on the helpful positive minded posts and ignore the children.

back faggots AMA

deliberately trying to ruin the life of a random stranger.

I like your style, user.

yup

when i smoked weed my worries melted away but i still craved more

I want more ice cream when I'm done with the pint, I'm not addicted to ice cream. I just want it.

U just make that up?

kek so true

Hahaha I do go to meetings but I'm not working on my steps yet. I just know from experience that I can never drink or drug again in moderation.

Congratulations. You have ptsd, much like most Yea Forums users

but no matter how much i got i never was satisfied

I'm that way with Little Caesars cheese bread. Not every compulsive behavior is an addiction, user.

thanks faggot :^)

>but i still craved more

That's the reason why I stopped because I was smoking loads and my life was getting away from me. Final straw was the depersonalisation and I'm so lucky it's passed because I know of guys who are permanently stuck like that. Imagine going through life and it feels like your watching your self, like in a movie. It's hard to describe but I didn't like being detached from reality.

Actually there are over eaters anonymous meetings for people like you. It is an addiction.

so me smoking weed and getting fucked on bars isn't an addiction? fuck off

yeah, thats how I'd describe it when i was using

Caine?

Overeaters Anonymous has been proven to be about as effective as any diet plan not based on CICO, user. Eating disorders are not automatically addictions. That's not what an addiction is.
Can you literally not stop? Or is there just no reason for you to stop because you're a "functional" drug user?

yes Decard Caine

You're just talking complete shit....

I can't stop. how much you give I'd smoke thill i physical cant smoke anymore and save some for to morrow and get up and repeat. same with the bars

try and quit weed for a week, user

No he isn't. I've seen people with eating disorders being treated the same as addicts and it works for them

I'm in rehab and I'm sobero for over than a week :)

sober

Have you ever tried to stop?

Said the same thing until I actually developed an axietey problem (after doing too many drugs so i know its my fault) its pretty shit,user

congrats :)

No, I'm arguing that eating disorders are like addictions. I agree with you.

yes before my first vistit to rehab. I've quit drugs for over 4 weeks but then i celebrated with a spliff and a day later i was snorting speed

thanks :) i have no cravings what so ever so i'm feeling fine. thats why i made this thread

So it's not a desire you can't resist, it's a desire you don't resist. That's not an addiction. It's a compulsion. That's just circumstantial and can be fixed easily just by changing friend groups.

i used alone and in that time i smoked 2 packs of fags a day shivering

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Cigarettes are pretty addictive, user. That's an actual addiction. You don't wake up with the shakes from not smoking weed.

If your name is Matt, stop seeking attention you fucking faggot

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cigarettes contain nicotine which is a physically addictive substance.

There are no physically addictive substances in weed, but the feeling of being relaxed and happy is obviously addictive psychologically

lol and it tastes like absolute shit

Weed does cause a chemical imbalance in your brain tho with the thc, I've spent a year of my life experimenting and I felt super depressed and anxious

For you dumbass stoners trying to rationalize your problem

When you are out of weed do you fuck over your own family to get your fix?

Get it through your retarded skulls, its a habit not an addiction

dont worry thats why they gave me Xanax. now I'm detoxing and i get Diazepam

>this
Sucking dick for weed also would have been applicable

benzo withdrawals are worse than opioid withdrawal in some cases imo.

no my name is Sergiu

If he had the pussy to get a degree in garbage he would.

they put me on diazepam now and they gonna lower the doses to see what psychological problems I'm gonna experience

Life causes chemical imbalances in your brain. Maybe you would have been depressed either way.

I find that drugs dissolved my mental problems like depression and anxiety

Depression - all i needed to do was think of something else, or think about how i dont need to be depressed

Anxiety - this ones a lil tricky but i just try to focus on other things and it goes away after like 5 to 10 mins

Do psychedelics change your brain permanently? Like in a way i feel like some aspects of the trips never left me and this seems more true the more i trip

you must have some issues, but nice b8 m8

There’s nothing you can tell me until you’re in for crack or heroin. You’re a rich brat who’s parents got sick of funding your addiction and paying for your fuck ups. Weed isn’t addictive. It’s habit forming.

I take very high doses of Klonopin everyday

psychedelics can fuck you up. I known this guy in my first visit to rehab who took lsd and came to the conclusion that he must kill himself. he had also other weird theories

I've tried crack but didn't like it. did cocaine and speed and other drugs for a couple of years before my first trip to rehab

He's right.

Addiction is a mental thing. It is "psychological dependence".

It still is a very serious thing, though.

Also, weed CAN be addictive. It is like as addictive as video games. Some people that use are heavy users (who are not addicted, but might use daily), and some have a problem.

Just because it is not as addictive as heroin or alcohol, does not mean that it is impossible. There are people who destroy their quality of life from addictions like weed and video games and gambling and porn.

klonopin must be nice. I hope you can kick the habbit

How was crack?

There is "normal" depression and anxiety, but there is also clinical depression and anxiety. For those, you can't just ignore them and they are extreme.

good luck bro, hope you'll get through and eventually stay clean

I've spent 11 months in a mental hospital for paranoid schizophrenia, I was on weed, mdma, amphetamine, opioids, lsd, dmt, mushrooms, alcohol and benzos on a regular basis for years. I got clean in there and I am now in assisted living, it's a bit boring now since I got send off to another town in order to seperate me from the drugs, got no friends here, but it is k. At least I'm not hearing voices anymore and paranoia + depression is also gone

I felt like like i went nitro. I felt like my brain was fried. then i had the worse comedown of my life. i thought i was going to have a heart attack

I'm glad for you bro. keep it up player :)

That's terrible. I wish you luck in your recovery from drugs and schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia is an illness that not much people understand, which is sad and unfair.

thanks guys

and yea, a lot people think you have a split personality and you're basically into murdering people, which is a huge misconception

Nice bait, faggot

I find it strange how people understand similar conditions (like dementia and autism) and not psychosis.

When movies and news media depict it as it does, it's disgusting for disabled people and their families.

Neither does unlaced weed new friend

So you stole pills from everyone, but didn’t like the most addictive substances on earth?
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3832528/
Lab rats will prefer crack to food. I don’t think you tried it at all.
If you’re serious and this isn’t b8, you probably shouldn’t hang out on Yea Forums. Too many triggers. Addiction is a symptom of a different problem. As an example; you’re not doing anything with your life. Just being a meatbag with no purpose. So Xanax helps you feel ok about being a meatbag. You could be seeking education or purpose in life and get the same satisfaction, but those things are hard and happy pills are only a few steps away. Believe me. I’ve been there. Find a purpose in life, and addictions become less of a problem. The urge to find more happy pills replaced your purpose in life. It became your purpose. It gave life meaning. Sober living is tough. Stop being a meatbag and become a human. I wish you luck.
Two minute high followed by intense cravings that last hours. I spent thousands on it. My advice is never try it.

fuck off

Neither does weed? Wtf?

Weed isn't physically addictive as in, it forms no chemical addiction in your body. Weed however, like any repetitive task, can be habit forming as people find comfort in a repetitive task, like someone slapping their chew container 500 times or tapping cigs, etc. The process of grinding bud, packing the bowl, and smoking can form a calming habit. There is no chemical addiction for weed however like opiates which drives you, against your desires or will, to need more. I smoke weed daily not because I'm "addicted" but because it's enjoyable, cheaper, safer and healthier than drinking, doesn't leave me hung over, let's me still function normally in society, only lasts a short duration, makes watching a movie or gaming more fun, and is very predictable with how it will affect me.

weed is classified as a hallucinogen

>Neither does weed? Wtf?
it certainly can. especially if you eat it.

How the fuck do u get high of xanax? I tried it but it doesn't do shit

????????????????
Prove it.

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You get "high" off xanax like you get "high" of drinking booze. They activate the same receptors.

"Because Xanax and alcohol potentiate the effects of the inhibitory neurotransmitter known as gamma-aminobutyric acid, or GABA. Heightened GABA activity leads to widespread inhibition of a number of neural processes, and results in sedation. "

i loved cocaine,speed,mdma,lsd and research chems but i got off it then i relapsed into weed and benzos. it's not bait trust me

>be me
>go to friend to use cocaine and weed
>dealer is out of coke but has crack
>fuckit.jpg
>put weed and crack into shitty acryl bong
>smoke it
>lugs feel numb
>get paranoind
>return home and crash into bed
>never done it again

also didn't realize that it was 4/20 kek couldn't have a better day for this thread

That was a disappointing story

my brain was fucked for 20 miniutes like for real

yup

Using drugs is a choice.

You can go to NA and if you choose to contiue to do what's suggested you will stay clean.

However if you choose to not do whats suggested you will likely pick up. Addiction is a choice. It's only pathetic losers who say it's not.

NA says it's a disease that get worse over time as you use

>Using Wikipedia as a source
Kek

I’m not OP. I’m just offering a answer. Xanax removes the ability to feel. You don’t get mad, or sad, or happy. Everything is just ok. It’s like being lukewarm instead of hot or cold. Something goes fuckey like you get fired for showing up late every day. Pop a few Xanax, and it’s no big deal. Can’t sleep because you’re stressed? Half a bar and you’re sleeping like a baby. People get addicted to not feeling.
You’re supposed to be stressed. It’s to cause you to change your situation. You’re meant to be depressed or happy or mad. Those feelings cause people to react. To change the circumstances that cause discomfort or seek out the things that make you happy. Xanax just makes you think every thing is fine, with no hangover.

>smoking weed until you develop paranoia so advanced you deny a literal encyclopedia

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Which you can arrested by choosing to actively follow the NA program.

If you're in NA and think that you have no responsibly for working the program then you are fucking melt.

>perhaps leaning more towards
That’s not scientific, knuckle head. That’s an opinion.

the sentence right before that is not an opinion

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I don't think it's that we enjoy feeling nothing per say, I got addicted to benzos because they removed my severe anxiety and restlessness and led to total blackouts. I was uncomfortable being alive and it was like temporarily killing myself every evening after work but without leaving my responsibilities like my family forever, just until tomorrow morning.

op here thats exactly how it makes me feel. I cant get the feels you know.

Kek

op here also it's almost dinner time i have about 30 minutes before i eat

Smoking weed does nothing to me dude, I will take a bottle of vodka any day over a pathetic piece of shit blunt.

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drugs affect everybody differently

True, but drinking with my friends is a better experience then sitting in my mom's lonely attic getting "stoned" imo.

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yeah its more fun. Tho i can't drink booze. i stick to beer. when i was in use i was always using alone or with a close friend that was 61. He smoked crack every 2 weeks and snorted coke every weekend. and he smoked everyday weed

Never mix drugs your first time. I didn’t like weed and crack because they have opposite effects. It’s like drinking liquor on speed.
I’m actually glad you fucked that up. It was a horrible time in my life. I didn’t have rich parents to put me in a safe place and had to decide I wanted more out of life. Some people I know weren’t so lucky.
You’re cool user. I’m sure you’re not b8ing now. It’s just weird to me because I’ve seen people die from drugs you don’t like, while you’re in rehab for a “soft” drug. It’s hard for me to understand. Personally I’ve done anything I’ve ever been offered. I just quit weed recently because I want a better job. It’s painfully stupid that weed is legal, but if you want to work anything that’s not a McJob, you have to pee in a cup.
Sobriety is a bitch. Find a purpose. Find your “church”. I don’t mean religion. It might be working at pet shelter. It could be painting or mountain climbing. Working with homeless people to get employment. It’s up to you, but it helps me to have a purpose. I still drink too much sometimes. It’s a symptom of my slacking on my purpose.

> Friend of 61

Are you a sexy boi?

Thanks user :)

I wanna work with other addicts. I think thats what I'm made for. I wanna share my exp with the youths that don't know what they are getting themselves into

I look okay but he was bi. I didn't fuck him or any shady shit like that but he sometimes hit on me and that was pretty creepy tho

I live in a legal state. Nobody is freaking out driving down the street smashing their cars into trees because the pink elephant they see from smoking joints. I know people that smoke from the minute they get out of bed until they sleep. None of them hallucinating about things that nobody else can see. I smoked for ten + years and never hallucinated. I’ve done 90% THC dabs and the only thing that happened was couch lock and munchies. Nobody in this thread believes you.

one may or may not experience hallucinations while smoking.

I'm just sharing the fact that it's classified as a hallucinogen.

Shit, now I want to cuddle with you in bed if you actually look cute and feminine. I once had a very feminine trap as my boyfriend, now I am addicted to girly cock.

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OP here gonna post a final story before i go to dinner.

>be me
>i was hanging with a girl
>7/10
>had some ketamine
>told her it was speed
>she wants to try it
>snorts way to much
>ends up in k-hole
>we are in a park at night
>take off her pants and panties
>fuck her
>she doesn't remember the night
>had fun

I Bill Cosbied my best (girl) friend kek

Get sober and work on you. Become an example of a better life. Find a good base of sober people and your bound to succeed. I wish you luck.

Working in addiction services is shit.

*you’re

I am manly and hairy tho i dress nicely and am pretty fit for a chainsmoker

I find even lsd more addictive than xanax, is there something wrong with me

thats what I'm gonna do Yea Forumsro

> I instantly have zero respect for op

I hope he dies of a junky gangbang

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OP here going to dinner

Yes you're retarded.

jealousy is a bitch

hey this is another user. off coke, weed, and xans for 7 months. you can do it bro! its hard at first but it gets easier as time goes on. make new friends, and if you're forced to see your old crew be friendly but firm. you got it bro!!

Not for everyone. Some people need to do it to remember what happens when they use.
It’s not fun. You’re working with manipulative liars who are extremely self centered and have a juvenile mentality. Some people need that challenge to stay sober.

Getting gangraped is a bitch.

i commented on an immunity doggo thread 3 years ago, your ill omen has no effect

Its I not i retard

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its b 8 m8, give up

your autism is showing

Drinking liquor on speed is god's gift to this earth.

Yeah, why would anybody just go on the internet and tell lies. Dumbass.

Addiction is a "have to". Weed does not cause that. Maybe you've been smoking so long you've deluded yourself into thinking it's not a choice, maybe that delusion makes you feel better about your life, but it's a choice non the less.

>underage

And that's a choice you make. Addiction removes the choice from you.

Because people drink it for the taste...

only addicting part of weed is the physical act of smoking or ingesting it

I've used weed every night for three months straight, discovered tolerance was a thing, quit for over a month, zero side effects. How do people get addicted to fucking weed?

First thing you learn in any establishment other than high school is wikipedia is not a good source.

Talking out your ass.

>samefag

wikipedia isn't the source. There are 3 citations right there at the end of the paragraph.

I was 16 at the time and i was fucked up on cocaine so i thought it was okay. now that I'm thinking about it it's kinda bad what i did, but hey I'm not a virgin anymore

This. When you want more weed most people have a line that won't be crossed. An addiction removes that line whether you like it or not beyond all logical reasoning.

>imagine being this paranoid

Exactly. Wikipedia is hearsay. If you want to convince anyone here go into the scientific article yourself and get quotes from there.

>edgemaster

I was prescribed it, so I definitely was better for it than without it. Experience will vary.

>imagine being 12 on a chinese screen printing board

>encyclopedias are hearsay, if you want to convince anyone of the volume of the atlantic ocean you have to measure it yourself

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5908416/

>in rehab with your phone

Nice LARP. Believing you’re an addict isn’t unbelievable, but inpatients require you to turn in all belongings.

That is a hyperbolic argument and you are a child.

>self-reported hallucinations
>the hallucinatory experience was qualitatively different than that typically experienced by participants receiving classic and atypical hallucinogens.

Did you even read the Abstract?

>hallucinations
>hallucinations

yes

That's okay. You'll learn the importance of critical thinking when you reach your teens.

you are weak, period

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because marijuana has helped yours a lot

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> Didn't you need to eat some dinner, homeboy?
Your saltiness is showing.

>.gov

Keep trying.

im not op you sperg

You are a retard. Get your meds

i swear these paranoia jokes write themselves

> Sperg

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Is Xanax a good party drug?

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It's not for parties, it's to be bundled with heroin.
AKA Nodding off.

Lol

why is putting down cigarettes so damn hard

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Anyone use any nootropics? Favourite/best ones? Is phenibut good?

Answers pls

I was given a heavy dose and became physically dependent on it. Never abused it. Days without it were awful. Was too afraid to tell doc I was dependent over the fear he would stop prescribing it. I should’ve sued the bastard, he wasn’t even a psychiatrist. Family doc. Any ways, shit changed me but I said fuck this and stopped taking them. First few weeks was awful, for a few months I couldn’t focus, but 2 years later I’m glad I did. I can focus now more than I ever could on that shit. Motivation is still trash though. That stuff made me completely numb and I’m pretty sure I developed psychosis in hindsight. Again, never abused the shit. Just took 3x daily as prescribed which I’ve now learned is a lot

phenibut is good but don't take over 4 grams a day

i was also precribed it but i ended up abusing it

>There are people who destroy their quality of life from addictions like weed and video games and gambling and porn
Weed, video game, gambling and porn IS literally quality of life

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OP here back from dinner

Ah, not my jam. Thanks user.

Was it good, faggot?

yeah rice with some meat and some other shit

10grams a day for a month

i had to take a shit 10 times a day and it was fucking liquid

Xanax is over rated. Benzos just put me to sleep and I take them for stress induced stomach aches. I don't get how people get addicted to them.
>weed gave me problems my whole life and of all the stuff I tried in my life has been the only one I have issues kicking long term. Not physical, but the emotional/mental hold is insane especially if smoke was a ritual.
So OP, how is getting laid in rehab? I hear people go fuck crazy to fill the void.

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look into TMS Neurostar treatment. Might give you a 2nd chance
Bingo
Dude, don't be moral fags
The cost of admission to growing up is putting away the weed. It's just a fact of life that those looking to grow as people need to accept, however will not be able to learn except on their own.
How is getting laid in NA? Any hot chicks?

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I'm the youngest in rehab. I turned 19 on 16 april. most people in my group are men in their 30-45. and the only chick here is some fat crackhead with three children. sex is not permited in our rehab and I'd be rather watch porn instead of tapping that ass thb

do you have anxiety problems?

trust me I was allowed to bring my pc here and phone. this rehab isn't that strict like others

a shit ton. I choke up when i have to say hi to the cashiers

depends on the rehab

Just wait till your lifestyle leads you into a horrific chronic illness. Then you'll finally have the motivation to quit all drugs and change your life completely.

thats why you have 'addictive personality'- try to focus on your anxiety- get treatment Behavioral therapy, addiction will go away if you fix that- with anxiety you are fighting a battle that can't be won and sobriety will make your life hell

you are fucking clueless

I learnt in rehab that I also suffer from pretty bad sex and love addiction so I'm trying to stay away from women for 12 months atleast while I adjust to life sober. Although there was a bird last night called Megan and she was hot as fuck, I did space out and fantasised fucking her a couple times, had to catch myself on.

and ptsd treatment and cognitive behavior threapy

> 3 months
lol

this

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also sorry if my english is bad it isn't my first language

looks good to me, but them im ESL and autistic

In NA they advise you not to fuck a fellow addict because you can relapse together

Yeah, exactly. Recipe for disaster

trankimaziines sucks , better way to dont do it , its dont drink usually , u can drink wituout da shit

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