Transgender Ideology is cancer, and it's ruining society

>IdeoLOGy

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>I can't read
He said ideology, you retard.

not him but man you're fucking retarded

its an outgrowth of biologic determinism, which is the religion actually killing western civilization

Only 0.05% of united states citizens classify themselves as transgendered. Quit getting so triggered and ignore them

Can you answer? I'm trying to get someone to explain this meme to me. Or if everyone really is this angry, why? How have these people hurt you?

Not him, but you can still disagree with something, or recognize it as bad for society even if it hasn't affected you. For example, serial killers are bad even though I've never been killed by one or known anyone killed by them. Your argument is bad.

>serial killers are bad

citation needed

It's pretty easy to point to one example of a problem caused by transgender people if they're as big a problem for society as you're trying to make everyone believe.

kek

You can act like a woman all you wish, but you'll never be one. Not by wearing make up to make you look like a bimbo, not by dressing like one, not by mutilating your chest or your genitals.
Get over it, you butt-mad faggot.
If it has a dick and you want to/have fucked it and you're a dude, you are now the biological definition of a homosexual. Being gay is wrong so don't misrepresent yourself as being straight.

>boy/man/hes born with a penis
>girl/woman/shes born with a vagina
>choose one.

Only the mentally ill argue otherwise.

Facts do not cease to be true simply because they are ignored.

Chomp another Tide pod, precious snowflake.

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Well yeah it's ruining society but what if a better society takes its place? Transgender individuals are basically on the forefront of human evolution right now

Evolution? The fuck are you talking about?

I make posts on Tumblr about how dirty straights opress us. My other blog is about communicating HIV as a fetish

Putting mentally retarded people on a pedestal, and saying this is the golden standard of what a healthy human should be is fucking disgusting

REPEAT AFTER ME
IT IS NOT THE TRANSFAGGOTS THEMSELVES
IT IS THE FORCED NORMALIZATION OF MENTAL ILLNESS
THAT IS THE PROBLEM

If you're asking for examples of problems caused by them, then I'm sure we could come up with a few.
I'll start with the fundamental denial of reality which is in effect a lie, which I think are all detrimental to society.
Suicide rates are also a huge one.

Are you denying evolution?

This, and attention whores.

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Are you denying facts?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Infertility and defective genitals are good for evolution

Are you doing that? Who is doing that? Can you give an example? This is a strawman.
So you can be blocked with one click, yet these people want you exterminated? Sounds like they've got it backwards who here is mentally ill.

Um, no? Evolution is a fact, my man

Yes, a better society where an easy, comfortable lie is better than a difficult and inconvenient truth. A society that throws all measures of social checks and balances to the wind. I'd like to see that not implode.

Just to be clear, an example of what? Denial of reality?

Why are you being a massive bootlicker? Are you yourself a tranny or are you sexually attracted to them?

>an easy, comfortable lie is better than a difficult and inconvenient truth

Well yeah precisely

Those two people are the one and the same sunshine.

Lots of non trannies defend trannies. This is the issue I think some people here have been driving at.

Go to public schools and brainwash your and my kids into thinking its ok to have AIDs and its ok to be molested

I ranted to my ex about how trannies are fucking stupid and I think that's why her stupid cunt broke up with me. So that's how it's effected my life kek.

Shouldn this be in /pol/

or maybe not want to be with someone doesn't know the difference between affected/effected

You filth. You weak, spineless excuse for a human fucking being. You make me sick. Scum like you who deny the very nature of reality are what's wrong with this world. You disgust me, and the day your false worldview catches up to you, I will laugh.

Ignoring them has let them take root in most of the media, while being only 0.05% of the population, its like a fucking sickness

lol you are pathetic

Good point, but reddit spacing

Nobody here ever said evolution wasn't a fact, you're desperately trying to win an argument without presenting facts.

Transgender people haven't evolved. If evolution involves a much larger suicide rate and mental instabilities to you, and a belief that something is wrong with you, then I don't think I want to evolve.

>thinking fags and trannys have normal children.

Sunshine im sorry but it just doesn't work like that

Evolution can be messy. I would rather the current society collapse and be replaced by something better, even if it takes some people killing themselves over it.

I'd say it's more pathetic to just ignore the world around you because it's "too hawd" to deal with it. Be a fucking man and sack up and look reality in the face and say FUCK YOU I CAN DEAL WITH IT instead of being an effeminate pussy who just hems and haws about how oppressed you and your poor pet he-she fwenz are and that they dindu nuffin

EVERY MEMBER OF THE DEMACRATIC PARTY. including the media

Thought experiment.
If we got to the point where people could make a sex change %100 perfectly, to the point where it was impossible to detect the person's previous sex through any means, could that person then legitimately be considered whichever sex they changed to?

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Okay then, consider this...

If you were to burn every biology book and every science book, erase everyone's memory and essentially start fresh...

What do you think will happen? Humans will end up rediscovering everything in regards to the two subjects again. They're facts. You can deny them all you want, but they're the absolute truth.

The society we would rebuild would not involve the 100+ whatever the fuck pronouns people they think exist. It also wouldn't be built upon the Transgender Ideology that is currently discussed today... It'd go back to there only being to sexes/genders.

I was implying that the ones that dont identify as a faggots also have a mental disorder. Fucking Christ

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ok but I mean, they don't. they just dumbos

Yes but that will never happen good luck changing the laws of nature. I wish you luck

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what a shitstorm

I get what you're saying but really, there's no point fighting against reality like that, just give up and accept you can't win

Exactly, my child molestation and AIDS spreading only ruin the lives of like a few thousand people at most. What business is it of yours, bigot? Smh some evil nazis trying to tell me I can't have my mangina out in public

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Son, is that you? Your mother wants you to come home. Please son.

Then that makes you not only a bitch, but a fake bitch. In this insane upside down world, real ass people are a rarity bc there's so many others like you who are willing to drop trow and grab their ankles. How anyone could not be disgusted with being such a fakeass mark is beyond me

Dude. There is NO point in fighting. Just let evolution take its course.

Truth

Do elaborate. What do you mean "evolution"?

Don't wanna change ur mind op. Faggotry is terminal.

Fuck you. I will fight to my DYING BREATH even if it means I'm the last real man. Your idea of reality is warped cancer.

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Thank you for accepting the truth, I appreciate it.

It's the jew's solution to global warming. Reducing the global masses they can control it more efficiently.

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Oooy weey goyim, let it happen, give up!

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I don't think you would understand, unless you're familiar with Lucifer/Ahriman

Good luck with that, stud

>let evolution take its course
>we are all the same

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agreed
they are a cancer to society along with most progressive ideology.
source: mouse utopia experiment

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I asked you to elaborate, not come up with some stupid excuse to continue being a cunt.

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>You can't change my mind.
Then why is this a thread?

What the fuck?

kek

Never said you couldn't try. Just that I wouldn't change my mind.

Ok well if you're not familiar with Lucifer/Ahriman, I would suggest doing some research. But basically Ahriman is the force behind the current (broken, scared) society and Lucifer is the force encouraging a brighter future

How? You are right.
>Did not say Transgender Ideology denies reality and is proven to be wrong
You did not say this.

Feminism and egalitarianism and gynocentrism ruined society, not trans rights.

Seems pointless.

different brands of same agenda

How can feminism ruin a society?

>it isnt an ideology, it has no consistency.
Thinking people are born with magical (Ghosts???) who are male or female and you can magically turn into a woman by dressing differently is consistent. Regardless how wrong it is.

If anything, evidence suggests there are no ghosts, and a body is just a body. Your DNA may be a blueprint, but gender is determined by raw hormones if you start replacement therapy early enough.

>If there's no problem, why are you angry about it?

OP is a trans ideologue fag light in denial.
All trans ideology and transgenders are the problem.
Debate me degenerate.

All transgender degenerates are the problem.
Debate me degenerate.

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This

Spotted the useful idiot yes man

Except you don't magically turn into the other sex/gender by dressing up according to social standards. It's wrong to believe that.

Biology doesn't care about how people think. It's based on the observations that we've made on the human body/nature. Again, facts. I'm not going to explain basic biology, but you should know what I mean.

You're insane if you think that just because you follow everything which society thinks constitutes a woman, that you're suddenly a woman. You're a woman if you're born as one. Same goes with men.

>If anything, evidence suggests there are no ghosts, and a body is just a body
No no no hold the phone.
How can you be born in the wrong body if you are not a magical ghosts only the body?

Actually try to answer this.

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Trans rights is fought against because of traditionalism, which is just another part of gynocentrism. The whole "Men step up and take care of a family" in a dying western world is ignorant and is because rather than fix the problem they would rather make men work as slaves in an antimale system rather than fix the system. It isnt like they CAN fix the system democratically, MRAs have tried since feminism started, the only way to change the system is repealing the 19th amendment. In any event trans rights are demonized by the religious right and traditional right, which are on the side of gynocentrism and feminism. You are backing an ideaology that will destroy us as well. You should look to want to fix society in different methods if you really care rather than focusing on a small fringe part of it that can really coexist with the individualist ideaology of the right. Capitalism and individualism are the only saving faces of the right at the moment, everything else is corrupted and a lie.
Simple, women vote left, they vote in welfare and social spending, they vote in gynocentric laws to steal from men, they get educayed and stop giving birth lowering population levels, they create a big government inherently by their right to vote. Women value security over freedom and it constricts any rights that are deemed as unfair or dangerous. It hinders the progression of any healthy society leading to their inevitable degredation, collapse, and replacement.

hey quick question who the fuck are you talking to

Who I replied to, who replied to me first? That a serious question or are you trying to avoid confronting the argument?

Your reply to is spot on, but what the fuck are you raving about in your reply to I think the 19th should be repeated as well but how tf are you going to do that without maybe civil unrest
The phoenix is getting way too old for this shit if you know what I mean

*Massive not maybe wtf

God damn, how insecure you have to be, to be that afraid of transgenders.

>debate me
Give me something to debate, nobody here has provided any examples of transgender people affecting their life. They just keep saying their beliefs are disgusting which is just them being buttblasted, I want to see where you have been damaged or harmed. Otherwise you're just whining and nobody gives a fuck.

No I agree with massive civil unrest, I am stating that there are multiple sides of every group, and the side OP is mad about effects little to nothing in comparison to other problems, thus he should look into what else plagues society to get a fuller picture of where he should be investing his time.

It sounds like your complaint is that if you give women a say in government, they use it incorrectly.

>Give me something to debate
Then you must be retarded it was given and you are quoting it.
>nobody here has provided any examples of transgender people affecting their life
Why is this even relevant? Surprise no one subscribes to your absurdist moral framework sargon.

You've been ignoring a lot of points that have been made, but alright.

Perhaps the phrase "wrong body" is incorrect. Perhaps the attitude is more "It's my body, I can make it look how ever I want". Some people believe body modification is a right.

>afraid
No, disgusted and appalled.
Difference.

I'm not op so I can't speak for him but I understand that the trans shit is just a symptom of the greater disease and that useful idiots like that smarmy faggot in here who keeps asking "what tranny hurt you sweaty" are just that, useful idiots
The real disease is the internet

Don't be so insecure, let pedophiles fuck your kids. What is this, the 1950s? Pedophilia is the way of the future grandpa, don't be such a pedophobe

As our standards and ethics degrade, our societies capabilities and cohesion collapses, leaving us vulnerable to tyranny and enslavement.
That's the harm. That's the threat.

That's why the trannies and their supporters must be killed. Not negotiated with, not debated, but fought against as a dangerous enemy.

See you out there faggot.

Where is the connection between pedophiles and transgenders?

Lol

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>Why is this even relevant?
Because if nobody has done anything to you then you've got some kind of fucking nerve challenging their right to exist or complaining about their lives in any way.
Nobody has given an example, user. They just start crafting strawmen and attacking them. "Transpeople preach trans rights in schools" is not an example because you can't point me toward a situation where someone has done this outside the their community standards and the law.
Bottom line: You don't want people placing limits on your freedom with this kind of thin rationale, do you? You aren't in danger, user. If you decide to commit murder or incite others to murder you'll go to prison.

Look for the connection between pedophilia and homosexuality. In short, gays are prolific child molesters, and being molested as a child correlates with an increased risk of homosexuality.

>the phrase "wrong body" is incorrect
You antagonized 100% of all trans ideologues, you literal Hitler nazi.

>Some people believe body modification is a right.
>Some people believe
>believe
Yes and? Why should I give a shit?
Now phrase what you stand for in your non standard trans ideology.

People have told me that straight white "cis" men need to burn in hell, unprovoked, to my face. That's my problem. They find a fake issue about an imaginary issue and scream at you for not doing anything about it.

That's backward, user. Most reported abuse is male on male because women don't report or pass on abuse, that's correlated with male gender and not female gender. What you're talking about, however, is true for all men regardless of sexual orientation, race, or really any other demographic or social fator.

Lol how weak is your society that fucking trannies can ruin it?
Pathetic. Embarrassing. Sad!

Historically women havent been apart of the voting sectors of society, and curiously women get the right to vote around the same time that communism and socialism is getting thrown around. Communism, being proven to not be functional in a world with scarcity, is becoming more popular in formerly capitalistic societies. Women basically as a group always vote left and roughly in many countries make up 51% of the population, inherently making the government unable to act as it had prior, which is why debt based financing and the need for immigration arises. It isnt that women are evil and should be treated as such, more so that their ability to grasp society as a whole over themselves is lacking, it is seen that women do not emotionally mature past the 3rd rung of maturity and thusly are unable to do more than reciprocate experienced social norms and understand consequences to and how avoid them. It is a rather worrying thought that they would control government, as they currently do.

What do you mean by the internet? Surely it demotivates, makes people lazy and more likely to accept bad things. Though I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Modify your body all you want, but you will be mocked if you surgically install whiskers and a cat nose. Likewise being a "woman" with an adams apple, 5 o'clock shadow and a thick carpet of hair on your "boobs" is not going to get positive responses from peoplem The problem is when people like cat man try to force the world to cave to his insanity. It's like if you admit that you don't want to fuck Bruce Jenner then your life should be ruined, your job should fire you, and your family should disown you. It's clown world, an absolutely insane joke.

When people vote for candidates that promote policies that benefit them, they aren't doing this to hurt you. You are not in danger. They are voting their interests. You should try it.

Gay men commit overwhelmingly more child molestation per capita than straight men though.

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The internet and everyone having it in their pocket gives fringe and tiny minority groups a soapbox and a megaphone for the entire world to see. This is dangerous enough but then you have shadowy cunts like five eyes and alphabet soup pulling strings beneath the floorboards and subtly influencing public opinion on a MASSIVE scale. Couple that with the fact that the line between information and entertainment is purposely being eroded and you have the mess we're in now. It's no coincidence that you never heard of any of this feminist, trans, etc, hyperleftist horseshit that's so perfused Western society before 2008. Also note that these problems seem to be strictly Western problems; you don't hear much about this shit happening in Vietnam or Kyrgyzstan.

He didn't say transgender people
He said transgender ideology

It does not effect you. So what the fuck you are in some one else business op?

If it doesn't AFFECT us then why are we so angry about it you glow nigger

Transgender people are inspiring. They're proof that you can do anything.

>yes it is
>it's certainly degenerate but it doesn't ruin society
>no one that is relevant or intelligent disagrees

That passive aggressive tone and holier than thou attitude combined with the simple fact of "but democracy" doesnt really refute anything I said.

They are western problems though feminism is effecting asia immensely, India and south korea, and japan are all under the thumb of a gynocentric lense. I agree that the west is especially hit hard with biased media and propoganda from fringe groups though. It is a shame really how many can be coerces by such simple means, though by that very same sense it is something that can be utilized.

>one else business op?
See:

sauce?

You either believe people's freedoms should be restricted for these kinds of thin, agenda-related reasons or you don't, user. If you do, then you need to pray to zombie Jesus every night that your people never lose power or someone will use the same logic on you.
>That passive aggressive tone and holier than thou attitude combined with the simple fact of "but democracy" doesnt really refute anything I said.
If that was enough to cause your psychological collapse, go back to whatever website you came here from. My goal was not to refute you but to get you to reflect on how ridiculous your comments are - people voting their interests are the ones who are dangerous and harming you. What a bizarre view.

Well idk too much about Asia in this context bc it doesn't much matter to me at this point but an old guy at one of my security seminars posited that the cold war never actually ended in a socio-ideological sense and that all this insane shit we see around us in the US and Europe can partially be credited to propagandists employed by enemy states. We do the same exact thing to destabilize other countries, how big of a leap would it be to guess that those big enemies are doing the same to us?

Guys, I see where this user is coming from.

They are saying that we are distracted by the tranny/faggot/child molester issue while larger issues are running rampant.

In fact, it may be this issue was constructed as a gecko tail towards this exact tactic, while buying our enslavers time to quickly move more critical components into place like free speech destruction with a double win of turning people against us as oppressors ourselves.

Play the long game anons.

Let's see... I'm no longer allowed to refer to people based on the biological boundaries that have been set based on FACTS... I now have to live my life based on how other people FEEL...

Yeah, I'll pass.

Yeah, let's revert back to a stage of total anarchy where you could, in fact, do whatever you wanted to. Or how about we don't. You can't change your sex, you can't fuck with biology. That's what transgender people believe. I don't think it's right to support this belief.

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>Yeah, let's revert back to a stage of total anarchy where you could, in fact, do whatever you wanted to. Or how about we don't. You can't change your sex, you can't fuck with biology. That's what transgender people believe. I don't think it's right to support this belief.
wat

Both sides have their faults but instead of attacking each we need to understand each others points but at the end of day who fucking cares what someone wan'ts to be as long as it not being shoved down peoples throats

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>You either believe people's freedoms
Why do you keep constantly implying anyone should obey your retarded morality? Like why? You keep doing it.

>that your people never lose power or someone will use the same logic on you.
What is this abortion of a statement? No seriously what are you even trying to say here?

I will grant you a galactic leap and humor this shit as if its even a valid statement.
Are you trying to say:
>If we all are pacifists and don't attack our enemies our hostile enemies will magically decide to adopt our retarded morality
Is this it? Is this some retarded justification? What are you trying to say here?
And meanwhile in reality
>OH no why are we oppressed by sharia law we obeyed our retarded morality why are the muslims not magically turning into clones of us????

What are you even trying to say? Sargon nonsense is simply nonsense.

Or are you saying that (?? Everyone??) is casting some magic spell like in a server and if we ban PvP no PvP will ever be possible so we never get hurt? like what is this retarded shit even?

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Sorry. I refereed to the wrong person.

>If that was enough to cause your psychological collapse, go back to whatever website you came here from.
I think you overestimate the impact of your words, my clearly egg shell thin psyche is simply destitute over your verbal lashings.
>My goal was not to refute you but to get you to reflect on how ridiculous your comments are - people voting their interests are the ones who are dangerous and harming you. What a bizarre view.
Okay, well you accomplished your goal of simply saying I am wrong and i should rethink things without really telling me why anything i said was wrong.

Yeah i have heard that before as well, and while it is certainly plausible, I more like to focus on how societies can fix themselves to rid themselves of the weak spots that the enemying nation states attack. It is curious how after the cold war America gained more of their enemies values and vice versa, as russia is certainly getting more capitalistic though feminism is well and alive there as well. Feminism is basically a worldwide concern and the only places it doesnt effect are hard patriachical societies. So while other nation states might be attacking the west, they too are suffering from it.

Are you saying that transgender people are your literal actual enemies? If so, build your case against them, if not, you're a bigger faggot than a guy in a dress sucking a girl dick.
>I need it explained to me why people voting their own interests aren't trying to harm me personally
I don't know how, user. They just aren't.

>That's what transgender people believe
A small correction here(I agree with you) this is what trans ideologues believe no every trans ideologue is a transvestite you gave non transvestites who are trans ideologues.
So there are far more enemies then the simple trannys.

In your opinion do you think voting is a human right? Something that you are denying humanity to a person if you dont let them vote? That women not being able to vote in the past was cruel and inhumane?

Even in that zero percentage it is quite a lot. The Fact that a large majority just craves attention is the second, followed by those that are mentaly damaged and also teach their kids that thinking. Where do the special snowflakes come from? All a problem of bad education and things.

But serious. Those who have the feeling to be in the wrong body do something against it. The science gives them the right tools. Those barking they are trans and need special attention are exactly that, attention seekers. Take away the point that being trans is something outstanding and they will come up with a different sob story like being raped by aliens or bigfoot.

>cruel
>inhumane
Self-determination is the human right, voting is your civic responsibility. Please learn more about what human rights are and what they do. But I understand the core of your question, and yes, it was a tragic situation that women were denied their right to vote and a great thing that this injustice was corrected.

Would you have sex with Bruce Jenner? Why or why not? If no, does that mean you're an evil racist nazi bigot who wants to kill all transgenders?

Is it a tragic injustice that children can't vote?

I'm married, user. If you want to bring this down to what an individual person would and would not do with another individual person, then why are you avoiding explaining how transpeople have harmed you as an individual?

I agree, lower the voting age to 5. They're still human after all. What a vile restriction of rights.

Explain how that logic would follow. Children not having the right to vote does not abridge their right to self-determination. We have different rules and social standards when it comes to children and adults for obvious reasons, user. Do you believe children and adults should have the same rights? Or are you arguing dishonestly?

A five year old not having the right to vote does not restrict their right to age appropriate self-determination, user. Your argument makes no sense.

Pretty sure this kind of goes along with the age of consent...? Being old enough to determine right from wrong, and think reasonable enough to make your own decisions. Children should not be allowed to vote.

What a surprise you are actually retarded. its not that you have any skills in understanding philosophy or moralities.
>Are you saying
I'm trying to interpret the retardation you produced in So are you debating in a absolute sense for some freedoms (these statements make any sense) and if you don't adopt this moral system other people can harm you???
Best example PvP
Or are you saying that (?? Everyone??) is casting some magic spell like in a server and if we ban PvP no PvP will ever be possible so we never get hurt? like what is this retarded shit even?

So what is it? This can be abstracted to everything (you did not write anything even resembling a coherent thought) to banning behaviors (are we not talking about this?).

So what is your point because in anyone's interpretation reality disproves this sargonist garbage. You deciding to be pacifists will not stop others from killing you. You deciding to not ban anything (oh the contradictions on this) will not stop others from banning things.
What. Was. Even. The. Point. There?

>if not, you're a bigger faggot than a guy in a dress sucking a girl dick.
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I believe that the rules and social standards for women and men are different just like that of adults and children, and thusly that they should not be placed under the same scope and allowed the same rights.

>publicly disagree with transgerderism
>ideologues try to ruin your life over it

Do you ever get tired of sophistry? A real argument without fake ass non-arguments won't kill you.

>women
>reasonable

Lol

You're the one talking about who should and should not be exterminated. I'm saying you're being ridiculous in asserting that anyone should be exterminated for these reasons. If you want to change my view, explain and describe what transpeople have done to warrant extermination and give specific examples, if not, keep blathering on about shit you don't really understand as if it supports your murder agenda. Transpeople have done nothing to you. Admit it.

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>women not having the right to vote does not restrict their right to sex-appropriate self-determination, user. Your argument makes no sense.

>I'm married

That's exactly what Adolf Hitler would say. I bet your wife isn't even a transwoman you bigot.

>age appropriateness isn't a thing
Well okay then, I know how your kids are going to grow up.
>sex appropriate self-determination
Well this will be good. Tell me how men and women have different needs with regard to social determinism, user. Give some examples of what you define as a sex appropriate limit on an individual's right to self-determination.

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You know there is almost a reason why you keep misinterpretting my arguments and making ad hominem attacks.

Holy shit this retarded modern feminist.
Let me explain this to you.
The propaganda you are repeating is self contradictory.
its simple sophistry.
Out of nowhere it is decided that woman not having the right to vote is wrong.
Out of nowhere it is decided something like magical human rights exist.
Out of nowhere it is decided ...
There is a incredible list of nonsense you simply assert because you are born into a society who indoctrinates you to believe this is normal.

And people are simply annihilating you by showing your self contradictions:
>A five year old not having the right to vote does not restrict their right to age appropriate self-determination, user
Lets rephrase this:
>A woman not having the right to vote does not restrict their right to woman appropriate self-determination, user
Your own sophistry turned on you.

Great work anons.

it will take a while but once they see the result of depression and remorse for ruining their body by introducing different chemicals in the brain, this will be labelled as dangerous

I will gladly answer that but first would you mind humoring me and answering one thing? Okay two things if you count that you cheeky boye. Why are there seperate men's and women's chess leagues? We all know of the physical differences between sexes that make men ideal combatants compared to women with their higher body fat, lower bone density, smaller lung capacity etc, but chess isn't physical at all. So this must mean that men have some kind of inborn advantage when it comes to certain kinds of strategic thought. Is that very far off the mark?

I agrew with you on this one, they are going around in circles not refuting anything and only repeating the same things over and over again all whilst being condescending. It is almost like we are talking to a woman

So tell me what sex appropriate self-determination means, user. How do men and women have different gender-centered rights to self-determination. Give examples. With age it's really easy and obvious. Kids can't buy alcohol because it would cause brain damage below a certain age. Now you go.
>I will gladly answer that
No you won't. You can't. Because it's a ridiculous idea.

Too bad fucker. We are superior. We will take over

Women think more often in terms of emotion than of logic. While this is a very valuable counterpoint to the oftentimes callous approach that men take, the callous logical approach is hands down superior when trying to have a civilization actually function.

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Superior?

I'm not the one struggling to accept myself, forcing others to change their ways.

So you're just going to ignore the post? Because I very obviously did answer your question with a rhetorical question that very clearly illustrates my point. You can't answer the rhetorical question without facing exactly why your outlook is wrong, which is why you choose to ignore it. I understand how uncomfortable cognitive dissonance can be.

>i mean yeah women spend a third of their lives in a state of agony and hormonal over-emotion but how DARE YOU imply that this could somehow ever be a bad thing

Why would I? you're right.

If you believe that the rights of an individual to determine the course of their life should be determined by their relative strength, post a picture of yourself with your shirt off. Otherwise, acknowledge that this is a ridiculous reason to abridge someone's rights.
It's got nothing to do with whether they are humans with the right to self-determination, user. If you want to talk about who is emotional, you sound pretty emotional right now, perhaps we can abridge your rights.

>I'm saying you're being ridiculous
This is not even the definition of the word ridiculous.
Not surprising you keep on using nonsensical word constructs for sophistry. Let me write you a nonsensical sophistry
>you're being ridiculous in asserting that trans degenerates don't need to be exterminate
BOOOM mind blown, anyone can construct meaningless slogans.
Want to construct a slogan calling me a poopy head?

>have done to warrant
>have done nothing to you
"have done" ? You once more fall back on functioning in Your own moral framework. Like it was explained to you I do not function in your moral framework. Your morality is not applicable to me. To say it in words you can understand your "have done" is only applicable to your cultural setting not me who is outside of it.

This can be surprising if you lived all your life in a echo chamber surrounded by moral clones of yourself.

I be more interested in what you did even mean by your *magic PvP spells*? What was this shit even about?

> keep blathering on about shit you don't really understand
I can give you references on moral philosophy and how you actually failed to make coherent sentences and jump all over the place.

Bonus almost missed it:
>have done nothing to you
You don't even believe this yourself.
Answer me this what have Nazis ever done to you? Looks like someone self contradicted himself once more.

You write nonsense and slogans. Do you have anything outside of
>ACCEPT MY RETARDED MORALITY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER!

>If you want to change my view
Did I ever say this?

So do you have anything to say here? Or are you to embarrassed with your *magic PvP spells* nonsense?

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Dem here. Transgenderism is a mental disorder and needs to be treated. By no means do we put them on a pedestal. Not all of us are fucking stupid, and not all republicans are fucking stupid.

1) They try to force you to call them a woman and play along with their delusion
2) If you don't do 1) then they flip out in a fit of rage and try to do everything to ruin your life by making you lose your job and everything because you're "transphobic"

"Hello sir. Oh shit I didn't play along with your delusion and harmlessly called you sir? Oh fuck now I lost my job and everything!"

>Kids can't buy alcohol because it would cause brain damage below a certain age
And voting is exactly like drinking alcohol?
Or voting causes brain damage?
???

Really did you even yourself realize you swapped the question for a totally different one?

>Now you go
Try staying on the topic next time.
The topic is voting.

Fun bonus interpretation:
>Pregnant woman should not be allowed to vote if they are pregnant because drinking while pregnant creates complications for the fetus.

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Exactly

based

One of my students was murdered by his father who committed suicide straight after because he didn't want his son going to a demonstration at his university to support his professors who hadn't been paid. Your turn. How has a transgender person impacted your life?
>1) They try to force you to call them a woman and play along with their delusion
Who has done this to you and when?

Voting is the ability of the individual to change EVERYONE'S life. Again, why should children not be allowed to vote?

>lol self determination means the power ruining this entire country because i saw some teary eyed propaganda about how brown people want our welfare bucks

> all whilst being condescending
And this is basically all there is to political debate

I think its the prime result of being indoctrinated into propaganda/sophistry.
And even if you start thinking about it you realize the stupidity, and even modern philosophy will say the same thing.

>I agrew with you on this one
Thanks.

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That's an argument against democracy in general.

Why not just answer the question, what have transgender people done to harm you?

When has women lacking the right to vote ever effected you personally?

I was born in 1979, user. It would be impossible.

>The inventors of democracy didn't let women vote
Or
>democracy is all about being inclusive and feeling good XD

Pick one

What makes you think I have anything against trans people? I dont and if you read what I said originally in you'd see that

Great, then let's abolish women's suffrage, right? The lack of voting rights never hurt you after all, so you have no right to complain?

Or does your ideology do have a second standard by which to judge the approved dogma?

Different person than the one you talked to, but -
You don't need to experience something to acknowledge that it's bad? The hell are you on about?

I've personally never met a trans person, but I can see, with my own sense of logic and ability to reason.

That the transgender ideology is bad. It's not a good way to look at the world.

>One of my students
Ok what are you on?
This has to be some brain damage right here?
Are you trying to answer the:
>Answer me this what have Nazis ever done to you? Looks like someone self contradicted himself once more.
And if you are trying to answer this you contradicted yourself.
Because if you are going under the
>Answer me this what have X ever done to you
Interpretation you needed to be punched or something by a Nazi and if not
>LMFAO dude why is this your problem? Nazis are not doing anything to you. LMFAO.

However this is humoring your moral framework to much.
I should have left this under fun bonus.
Its not the main point.

I'm not functioning in a moral framework you asking me to function in one is simply stupid.
>have done
Is simply N/A to me its like asking me where in the bible it says X. Or what one of the 10 commandments this violates. If I reject the bible there is no point in bringing up the moral framework of the bible.

And so is your retarded moral system, you don't even have a name for it its not even written down only loads of nonsense and words who simply don't follow.

You seriously have a hard time grasping this.

I wanted to go back to this:
The PvP magic spells my man tell me about them or what was this even.

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Pshaw all you alarmists saying that heroin addiction is bad. But have you ever personally been addicted to heroin? Lmao checkmate bigot, turns out heroin addiction is a good thing.

I never said heroin addiction is bad, not claimed otherwise. I'll ask you again; The hell are you on about?

>That's an argument against democracy in general.
Yes and what is your point you filthy democrat?

Body modification is a god given right. Get over it.

I'm drawing a humorous comparison to illustrate your point. We know heroin addiction is bad, we don't need to have our dads addicted in order to oppose doing heroin.

Now scoop my turds out of the litter box you fucking nazi bigot

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Bringing god into the argument?

Pretty sure god made Adam and eve, and intended for them to stay that way. Otherwise he would've made Adam and Steve.

Oh, it's a bait thread. NM

It's honestly confusing who you're talking to at this point. There's just a lot of "changing the subject" happening, so I thought that was what you tried to do, lol.

>Why not just answer the question, what have transgender people done to harm you?
The people you are talking to don't function in your retarded morality.
The question is meaningless and not applicable.
Counter question (maybe you get it this way) Where in the 10 commandments does it say you can use the internet?
Now imagine asking this to atheists.

You are starting to get the picture?
Read some books on moral systems and moral philosophy.

A lot of people believe shit that doesn't mesh with science/reality. Look at religion. While I don't con anyone who thinks the whole transgender thing is weird and that some gay people take shit way too far, it as a whole, represents such an overwhelmingly small portion I think your daily life shouldn't be too affected.

Lol fair enough fren. Sarcasm is hard to communicate over text

>I think your daily life shouldn't be too affected.
>Universal laws created by the government don't affect you
Imagine being so demonstratively wrong.

True that... You have my respect though, mate.

I think this is partly true, but there are people who genuinely believe that they are something other than what they were born as.

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Simply google born in the wrong body to have a laugh at idiots.

What? Which laws? I'm not saying your wrong, but you point are so vague.

The problem is that the Transgender Ideology is starting to change society. It's changing the way we're allowed to communicate, and how we interact with other people.
It's changing the laws of biology, and all of that is affecting everyone.

>ITT: Mentally ill continue to convince themselves their lives are healthy for themselves and society.
i hope you realize transgender lifestyles stem from degeneracy. its entirely sexual.

We call those crazy people

I have seen online videos of trans people flipping out and doing that kind of shit. I have seen tons of SJWs supporting those kinds of toxic SJWs. Seeing the evidence from other people has made me not be an idiot so I pretend to go along with their delusion just enough to not ruin my life, but it doesn't change my real opinions once I'm granted anonymity. So basically you ask me who has done this and when, but there's enough proof out there to say it WOULD happen if I expressed my true feelings on trans.

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You're still being really vague. By communication and interaction, are you talking about the whole pronoun thing? What laws of biology are being rewritten?

But you gotta be honest, if I came up to you, and told you I was a flamingo, but I was trapped in a human body, would you not recommend seeking help?

That's the kind of stuff that's bothering me. People see the "gender" thing as small, and shouldn't be that big of a thing. but it is.

This guy brings up a couple of examples. youtube.com/watch?v=2vvaEoVg3go

You know being born with ovitestis exists right? Theres a whole crazy flowchart of mangled genetalia that has created the ggrey area the lgbtq are taking advantage of.

With all this social media a bunch of those people who actually need help identifying what the fuck is going on down there came out of the woodwork, and with them a large sum of confident retards

>What? Which laws?
For example:
C-16
in Canada.
youtube.com/watch?v=SiijS_9hPkM
youtube.com/watch?v=mEfgf2GRk3Q

Why can't you just people be who they wan't to be? I'm not trans oraz anything, but prove me that gender exists and is not just a concept.

Because forcing the change in biological nominclature to adjust to people who are broken is wrong. Peroid. XY vs XX chromosomes is a male/female difference. You can't fix it.

To demand and throw a fit that I call you an XY male a female is twisting what we've understood at a chemical level for hundreds of years.

>But how have they affected you personally

Right, sorry. The laws of biology aren't being changed, but ignored.

Thinking you're a gender/sex that you're not, isn't right. You are who you're born as, that's that. If you're born with a dick, you're dude. You might think otherwise based on how you were raised or other influences, but you're still a guy.

> but how have they affected you

People CAN be themselves. They can't be someone they're not.

They can be everything, becouse existing od just a concept.

See, that's just an abstract argument. I think that the rich tapestry that makes up the human experience is much more complex that people give it credit for.

If we locked people up in insane asylums whenever their beliefs conflicted natural/physical laws then we have to start locking up a lot of people.

I think what y'all are thinking of is the worst offenders. The hyper-SJWs we used to hear from all the time. The people who put on a public fit whenever they're misgendered. The people who think that there are 35+ unique genders.

It is encoded into literally every last cell in your body. No one is saying you can't wear a dress and take dick in the asa, we're just saying you're not actually a woman.

>You know being born with ovitestis exists right?
You have no idea what you are even talking about.
>Muh genitals look strange.
Not an argument.
There are no human hermaphrodites XXYY and other crap result in 2 things sterility or the presence of even 1 Y chromosome makes the human a fertile male with no egg production.

Want to talk about fish who are male and female however don't have penises or vaginas?
>Muh different looking genital
Not an argument.

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--cont

If you have to change yourself in order to be happy with who you are... Are you truly accepting yourself then? You are who you're born as... I understand that people might not be happy with who they are, neither am I.

I'd like to look better, I'd like to be more successful in life. If I want to have long hair and look really feminine, that doesn't make me a woman. Nothing I can ever do to myself will ever make me a woman. People who think that aren't thinking straight.

The worst offenders get the ears of politicians who insutute laws though. Didn't a guy get fined in the UK for "misgendering" a fag on twitter a few months ago?

As i said, existing is just a concept, like gender.

No. I don't think you can transition from one gender to another, or one sex to the other. You can try, but you'll never be able to.

The idea of there being more than 2 genders is also absurd.

That's a fair point. But if the problem were as insidious and pervasive and exigent as these people say, surely there would be some kind of hard facts or occurrences that a problem actually exist, something other than "I feel like this may happen therefore we need to kill all the transpeople" or "these people don't deserve human rights because their values are different from mine". You can't as a free person accept thin connections and faulty logic and appeals to emotion as justification for a bridging rights. Think about what you are saying. You don't want others to use this kind of shitty logic and argument to abridge your rights for any reason, don't support others using these tactics.
You have seen individuals behaving a certain way, I'm asking for you to elevate that to a justification for abridging the rights of innocent people who weren't even there, user. If someone is committing a crime call the police, if someone disagrees with you in public stand up for yourself. Nowhere do you have the right to go through life with your views unchallenged, whoever taught you that was a fool.

Who cares? How does it affect you?

Read up in the chat. I've explained it multiple times.

Was in the Marine Corps, before the ban I knew transgender people on base who have fucking deployed and took names. Go fuck yourself they were willing to die for their right to be a woman or man or whatever

Listen I get it dude, I listened to alot of the B.S. trans peopie and I hated them. Until i met those individuals it change how I felt, let them be them

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Google "arrested for misgendering" and see

Then maybe take a more moderate stance. Sounds weird, but a lot of the way people say things can be really caustic and inflammatory. By that I mean they want to start a fight, not an open debate.

I'm kinda done on this thread. I don't think the vast majority are that far off base. Y'all seem like alright folk. I'm not asking you guys to accept everyone/everything, but It might help if you saw the individuals, as opposed to the overwhelming mass of people.

There are plenty of transpeople who just want to live their lives as a woman, and just want their marriage to be seen as legal.

I wish I could say something from that point of view to help y'all understand, but I'm just a normal dude. I can't say I fully understand it tbh.

I think it's outrageously harmful on an individual level, in the way that radical surgery (amputation, mutilation, hormone therapy) to treat mental illness would be treated as malpractice in any other context. As far as its impact on society, who cares? Never met a trans person in my life who 'passed', so it's not like I'll accidentally catch the gay in my lifetime.

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This behavior was intended to harass an individual, wasn't it?

You are misrepresenting trans ideology it states these people:
>Already are woman and you are only failing to accept this "personal" fact of theirs
And this is simply more silly.
Remember trans ideology is not:
>Hay I'm board of being a man I want to magically turn myself into a woman
>Its I'm already a woman I was born a woman and if you say I'm not I rage

Uh dude I agree with you but after seeing this post, idk

Well nice talking to you fren. I believe that i do understand their perspective, but I'm more concerned with the huge damage that this idea is inflicting on society.

>You don't want others to use this kind of shitty logic and argument to abridge your rights for any reason, don't support others using these tactics.
holy shit the magical PvP shit once more.
Do you understand how retarded you sound?
You understand how reality disproves you?
See: Rights don't exist
Human rights don't exist

There's nothing wrong with mentally ill people either as long as it's harmless things that won't directly hurt others. Doesn't change the fact that we should be giving them the help they deserve rather than playing along with their delusions. We don't persecute people with OCD or other disorders. We try to help them. It's only when crazies lash out at others that we don't like it. Those kinds of trans people do exist, but so do the kind who don't try to harm others.

Basically what you said had no reflection on my thoughts as I still treat trans people with respect (as long as they don't do anything to hurt others). It's the ILLNESS that I'd like to see fixed and treated properly and not something that is accepted purely because modern liberal arts psych students are 99% liberal so their scientific thoughts on trans are completely delusional to side with their SJW beliefs. Anything that involves mutilating your body with hormones or even cutting your dick off cannot be considered healthy behavior unless you're retarded.

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>MUH ARGUMENT
... what am I suppose to be arguing? Its just really obvious you havent actually explored the darkndepths of fucked up genetics to me. The XXYY perfect hermaphrodites you keep jerking off to don't need to exist to validate the idea of a grey ground between a concept as simple and diverse in nature as gender. Men get born with XX chromozones, women with Y, they're both being taken out of the gene pool what are you mad about? Situations where a man is naturally growing tits and has other feminine attributes or a woman who has testicles and is growing a beard exists as their crazy version of a natural state, its pretty obvious those people are gonna get confused when you ask them what thier opinion of it is when just being able to check thier gender like you or me returns mixed results.

Come back to me when you''ve seen what happens to some ovitestis owners with their urethra and their frenelum. Crazy, cheapens a large portjon of the magic of biology.

People like you are gonna cause them to fucking put someone's chromosone information in an area of private data.

I couldn't agree with you more.

>Two genders
>Literally hundreds of mental illnesses.

Just let everyone kill each other over petty issues like transgenderism, I guess that's a good thing considering how irresponsible people generally are, I mean there are no real truths to be gleaned from this whole issue/discussion at all

Indeed it is and it's a good thing, fuck society.

I see your micro aggression and I punch you in the face for it.

That's what I'm saying

>Marine Corps
Ahh the cannon fodder of the US, no respect.
And what a surprise the US army is full of failures and gays and retards.

>Listen I get it dude
What a faggot. Try saying these facts here or is reality subjective? Do these magical trans people have some reality distorting powers to change their DNA only to the people who speak to them?
No?
Then they are fucken retarded and wrong now go and get your legs blown off you retarded walking minefield detonation robot.

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The reality of all of this has absolutely nothing with sex or gender or trans anything.

It has everything to do with Social Marxism and Demoralization, which is the process of eroding and destroying the history, traditions and culture of a nation in order to prepare that nation for Communist take-over.

>If you're lucky, smart and relatively independent you may realize later in your life that this is true.

But they're not born as the gender/sex that they claim to be...? That's the problem. They want to be seen as something that they are not by other people, and if they aren't then others risk punishment based on that.

Pointless bait is pointless. Die in a fire, faggot. And we all do know you're a faggot, faggot.

Divide and conquer

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Typical leftist. No respect for anyone or anything. Consider this: every other leftist is just like you. No respect or appreciation for anyone or anything. This includes YOU. Every other leftist on the planet considers YOU a burden, an impediment, a road block to whatever goals they may have and, lacking all meaningful human morals and values, will have no qualms at all about killing you dead if they deem it necessary. Now, you have to spend the rest of your life KNOWING THIS.

What have you personally done to contribute to the history, traditions, and culture of this nation? I want to hear this.
Why are you worrying about what they want? And what punishment do you risk? What are you personally being prevented from doing right now as a result of transpeople?

Yes, that's part of it.

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This thread just proves society shouldn't be allowed to continue, nothing good is going to come out of allowing this society to continue

So kill yourself jackass.

To start, I started and established a successful chain of instant tune up shops in California with over 400 outlets state-wide (Insta-Tune) which I sold in the late 80s for nine hundred and sixty million dollars.
Having done this I have spent my life giving away the wealth I've acquired to those causes that I deemed worthy (such as alternative energy, better health care regulation, better, more affordable health insurance, massive donations to Habitat for Humanity, to name a few things.) Now, what have you done?

In Communist countries NO ONE ever gets RICH.

>I scratched my balls and watched fox news
Ayep

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Nice attitude. Thanks for making society such a great place to live, proud of you

Male
Female
Two genders.
One is born with a vagina
One is born with a penis
The INABILITY to ACCEPT what ONE was BORN WITH is what creates all of this gender association bullshit.

It's a SICKNESS, NOT A CHOICE!

So what's it got to do with you?

what about hermaphrodites?

Chomp another Tide pod, precious snowflake.
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I'm guessing you haven't quite figured out yet that with an idea and a little ambition you can go a long way providing you're willing to put in the work to make it happen. That's how it was for me and I can tell you that there's no feeling on Earth like the feeling you get from having an idea and making it happen. It's incredible. There's nothing like it!

100% true. That shit weeds out the weaker genetic material of the species by preventing them from reproducing.

>gender
Here is the thing kido.
Show me these tranies being capable of having a functioning vagina. They do not therefore not a woman.

> growing tits
Holy shit are you retarded.
Show me tits on lizards or fish or frogs or birds.
What a simplistic and mammalian centered thing to say.

You know what the definition of a woman and a man is? Of a female and a male? The ability to reproduce.
Its not tits or body hair.
Its the simple fact of reproduction.

You are pathetic here you are sitting in your pathetic human corner with you pathetic mammalian centered view of the world. While we understand all other life forms and have classified them.
Not by tits or body hair, by the ability to reproduce.

And before you start trying to say anything these are the main methods of reproduction we know
Asexual (basically born pregnant generates new offspring like you do body hair )
Hermaphrodite (basically vagina and penis together, hermaphrodites impregnate one another watch some futa on futa impregnation if you have difficulty translating this to a human context)
Gender binary (you are here human) male and female, the male impregnates with his sperm the female produces eggs.

And we are far from closing the books, we are opened to all possible reproductive systems and excited to learn about new forms.
Yet all of this is based in measurable reality.
And there you are, in the corner with the retards who scream
>I'm a woman because stop questioning me RREEEEE
Show it or shut up.

>People like you are gonna cause them to fucking put someone's chromosone information in an area of private data.
And what exactly do you want to put there? Their preferred color? You are the one obsessing over a reproductive system terminology.

And before you ask no you don't get to put galaxy in the gender category of yourself because you really really really really you are relay a galaxy and not human. Regardless how fat you are you will not put galaxy there.

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Nothing but you're too stupid to figure that out? Why would you be so stupid as to assume that in the first place? Don't you even KNOW how to think or are you one of those unfortunates who's so mentally ill and psychologically scrambled that you can't make distinctions between different people and things? If that's so then that's extremely unfortunate.

The human race only have two sexes. A male, which carries and produces sperm, and can fertilize a female's egg.

And a female, with the ability to produce eggs and carry children.

A hermaphrodite is somewhat of a birth defect. No human is supposed to be born with both reproductive organs.

Would rape/10

This!
A thousand times THIS!

>Transgender Ideology is cancer, and it's ruining society.
>You can't change my mind.

The GOOD news is that more and more people are waking up and realizing this and making it go away.

>your life KNOWING THIS.
I already know this, not afraid.
Want to talk about these secret facts one can only know by talking to a tranny?

Or how someone being the US army's cannon fodder is even relevant to the conversation?

Are you from the U.S.? If so, that's the wrong fucking move; you couldn't do half the shit we do. A recruit is 100 times better than you. The only reason we do that is so we can facilitate a means of which civilians I.E. YOU!! Are able to be comfortable at home and kept safe.

they are just retardet and i dont like retards

The words "Supposed to" aren't in humanity's vocabulary. We do all sorts of things they're not "supposed to", like flying. Nature's rules mean fuck all to me.

eh, men are objectively less pleasant to look at than women.

I'd rather be aesthetically pleasant looking

>what about hermaphrodites?
See Show 1 human hermaphrodite. Show me someone who produces sperm and eggs at the same time.

You know we here where debating all the possible civilizations in the cosmos. we theorize if and how a civilization of hermaphrodites might look. We look at all of biology for hints and understand it all.

There are hermaphrodites in all of nature and we cherish all this knowledge.

And then you are here saying
>I'm a galaxy because stop questioning me!!!!
No galaxy is an astronomical classification.
>I'm a bird because stop questioning me!!!!
Show it or shut up. PS: You are not.
>I'm a woman because stop questioning me!!!!
Show it or shut up. PS: You are not.

One side is grounded in reality the other denies reality.
Poisoning our language by bringing literally insane idiots.
These words have meanings.

A human hermaphrodite would be fantastical, maybe possible however incredibly fantastical to see. Will the child also be a hermaphrodite or will it default to the gender binary? Truly fantastical.

Not one of you jokers has shown any of this.

Hairy stinky men in dresses are not pretty.

Except the human body isn't capable of achieving flight by itself, so no. Your argument is pretty invalid. We invent machinery that allow us to travel by air. If you want to look up the science behind a plane, be my guest. That's not what we're discussing.

So I'll repeat myself.

"The human race only have two sexes. A male, which carries and produces sperm, and can fertilize a female's egg.

And a female, with the ability to produce eggs and carry children.

A hermaphrodite is somewhat of a birth defect. No human is supposed to be born with both reproductive organs."

even though you spelt retarded wrong, i still think you have made one of the best points, trannies are indeed retarded.

Looks its really difficult to have this discussion with you due to me being booked with the rest of the people you're argueing, im talking about people who are born with infertility, so what you just debated there really confused me. The intersex section of this whole thing im trying to justify exists is something i can debate becuse I know for a fact there are people out there you won't be able to tell the chromosomes of, not because of modification, purely from you understimating the chaos of the universe. Hermaphrodites with both pieces to the puzzle exist, its more common though that intersex people are born with a stage of fusion that ends up looking like an inbetween of the genitals, woman whos clitoris' protrude, men with larger urethra no balls.

Those people are going to have a problem with the facts you'r stating because it just makes sense for those people to care less about it.

What you need to grow up and accept is that those people are going to defeat intergity of the concepts you're debating, the buety of nature you hold your argument to is going to be destroyed with this species, turning people in biologically designed robots has been the purpose of every civilization in human existance, this one is just being a lot less classy about it and affecting something thought of as a core structure.

But i stand by intersex people are infertile, you should have no problem, just go get laid and raise the next patreon to the battle thats still not over. Whats wrong user? Is it your sexuality thats being assaulted here? Seems like

If it's got nothing to do with you, why are you so angry?

but I'm not hairy because I got rid of all my hair.
I'm not stinky because I smell like a girl.
my face and figure are convincingly feminine.

hundreds of people see my every day and have no idea I was not born a woman.

My girlfriend loves me.

I won. Die mad about it, kid.

You say no human was meant to be born with both organs, but I think you need to take that up with their creator.

Okay Retard

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Could you try and make an actual argument or are we done here?

>Are able to be comfortable at home and kept safe.
I know this.
And here is the little secret you do not know.
You are literally cannon fodder like some pawns to be used in combat and die so that the generals can win a maneuver.
And the ones of you who break will be tossed away like the broken toys you are and can be insane and homeless in the streets.

There are the thinkers and then there are useful idiots basically a biologic version of a robot a attack drone to be sent away to die for their masters.
And you know how this is determined?
The idiots who are stupid enough to believe the military hype get to be cannon fodder.

Think back to history funny how the king never did fight a battle he was sitting there and ordering his knights to go and die for the king.
Ever played chess?
There are the pawns and the king the king is to be protected at all costs, the rest is only cannon fodder to give the king a victory.

This is you a useful idiot. I was not stupid enough to enlist myself in the military. You can go and die for me slave.

Now we don't need cannon fodder skills here we need thinking skills here (I call you if I need you to walk into a minefield for me) this is what I think of you bio-robot youtube.com/watch?v=6ambojDS0Qo

So back to the thinking subject not your obsession with the military.
Want to tell what magically makes transgenders true? Any secret knowledge you have there?

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Not really, that's what we call a birth defect.

You're taught that humans have 10 fingers in total, 5 on each hand. This is based on the fact that basically everyone is born like that. There are some exceptions where people are born with 9 or even less fingers, yet they aren't normalized. The people with said defects are still human, of course.

This is the same scenario as with the transgender ideology. The majority of people are born male/female, and stay that way. There are a few exceptions, but the world shouldn't focus on those few instances.

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