Liberals in a nut shell. They refuse to admit that they live in a bubble. Thinking that it's ok to steal the fruits of anothers labor to give to those who refuse to work, but they get pissy when it's their stuff that gets taken.
I mean the Dems and Liberals had no qualms about taking the labor of their slaves as their own, but man did they get pissed when their slaves were taken from them.
>man did they get pissed when their slaves were taken from them So we can take down the monuments to the Confederacy and the Republicans won't throw a shitfit, right?
why not? they were put up by dems after all. The less stuff we have as remknders of Dem ideals the better
Ethan Collins
>so we can deny it ever happened and erase that embarassing bit of historical fact, now, right?
Fixed
Brandon Garcia
prove it wrong liberal. Dems are the slavery party, and the party of the KKK, and the Jim Crow party. So how, exactly am i projecting? I mean its the Dems who still call people they dont like horrible racist names.
Nicholas Flores
And yet here you are, paying taxes like everyone else. Which is theft by the way. Or are you gonna argue that we need money taken from us?
Wyatt Jackson
op is faggot
Grayson Sullivan
id be cool with a flat tax, no deductions, and every penny is used for infrastructure. dont work? dont eat. cant work for real reasons and not just menatl problems like laziness? we got you. cant work because youre an antisocial fruitcake? fuck off
Leo Harris
truth hurts dont it liberal facist?
Sebastian James
Loll I can't tell if you're being a troll or just dumb. Like, really really dumb. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, so yeah, during the Civil War, the "Dems" were the bad guys. After the ideology shift in the 50s after WW2, the parties basically just swapped names. And don't even get me started on you're "fruits of mah labor" bullshit. A society works better when it works for each other, not the individual. This is silly kek
Nicholas Clark
no they didnt. it wasnt until Regan at the shift to red happened in the south. and i have lived both up north in michigan and now in tennessee, it is far more racist up north
Jayden Butler
liberal facist is an oxymoron. youre just a normal moron
Wyatt Campbell
People like OP are the perfect candidate for getting shot in the face.
Christopher Hernandez
I love the "the parties switched" meme. Did they all get together and decide to do that? Why?
Brayden Sullivan
fascism is actually a leftist ideal
>see
Eli Davis
Can confirm that the south is less racist. Lived in the south for a while with extreme amounts of diversity churches, family oriented festivals, and other forms of community brought everyone together and never heard anyone say nigger I. The two years I was there. And yes, this was a hick town. I've since moved to California and a few states in the Northeast and I can tell you, the north is way more racist.
well honestly that one seems more reasonable then the average dem, its for vaccccination and isnt throwing a total tantrum.
Christopher Powell
The swap is a myth. Republicans focused on trade and the south is mainly manufacturing and agriculture and it slowly shifted. Turn Cenk off and do the 15 minutes of policy reading it would take to know this.
Adam Jackson
Taxation is NOT theft faggot.
Kayden Thomas
>the ideology shift in the 50s after WW2 this wasnt a thing you moron. if you honestly think it was, please elucidate further
Luke Reed
Ya but it is
Caleb James
>Lets compare some faggot complaining on facebook to taxation, and then eventually slavery so I can make the "democrats are the real racists guys" argument because I'm a dumb fucking retard from turningpoint and that was my whole objective in the first place. LOOK MOM I'M PARTICIPATING IN AN ONLINE CULTURE WAR I MADE UP IN MY HEAD! Fixed that for you OP. This thread is what Israeli lobby money backed shilling looks like
Brody Rodriguez
I can see how technically you might be able to think about taxation akin to theft. But it really isn't. Theft is confiscation of wealth without any service rendered. But the government does render services.
Ayden Robinson
if they render good services, why is our national infrastructure crumbling? why are we fallimg behind on education goals compared to the rest of the world? what happened to all the money in obamas stimulus package? howd solyndra get so much money then fold up without having to pay that mo ey back?
the government cant even run amtrak right, and you wanna give them MORE money?
Andrew Cruz
>lets discard the fact that bernie wants to have a high tax rate that does rise to theft of labor and instead diddle an argument like its a loli i want.
fixed it for you user.
Zachary Turner
How retarded are you? It doesn't matter if a service is rendered or not if you do not consent to the money being taken or if it is taken by force, coercion, threat of violence, threat of being kidnapped and being put into a cage.
>fucking slaves love their chains around here >#1776 CHOOSE ONE
Lucas Hernandez
Nice bait.
>taxation=theft >government=slavery >man made laws=2d fictions
Chase Perez
Just because you don't particularly LIKE the service it gives, that doesn't mean they're not doing it.
No, that's not true. You do have a choice. If you don't like the taxation and don't want to pay for societal infrastructure, you can move to another country. Staying put means you've implicitly consented.
Landon Thompson
I'll say again, Taxation is not theft. If you think it is you either don't know what tax is, or you don't know what theft is.
Juan Sanders
>implying it's not the porky appropriating the surplus in the first place more and more disproportionately
Bull fucking shit. Land of the free is just a marketing gimmick. I will stand here and live here and will fight and DIE for inalienable rights. I'm not just going to roll over because some commie faggot wants me to pay taxes for socialist programs. How about if you don't like freedom and do like paying taxes you take your ass to China. Fuck off commie scum
Isaac Thomas
You are all over the place and not making any sense at this point. Focus your thoughts and use your words.
Aaron Smith
Where did the government get this power to "steal" your hard earned money?
Nathan Baker
Low quality bait. How about I get to keep 100% of the money I earn. If one cent of my physical labor or intellectual property is taken against my will that is someone else laying a claim to it that they have NO right to. THEFT
Kayden Garcia
Government prints and controls the currency and backstops it and allows its public use.
They collect rent on it. Stop trying to be a squatter and pay up.
Dylan Cox
If you stay in your country, then you agree to abide by that country's laws, including it's taxation.
Don't like the tax, move to somewhere that has a more agreeable deal to you.
Luis Smith
Threat of kidnapping you, throwing you in a cage. If you protest or put up a fight they will summarily execute you where you stand. They use their pets the police to inact violence.
Oh sure, because US geopolitics and the backing of coups in various nations that threatened US currency interests, not to mention military guarantee don't count as backing it?
Parker Fisher
liberals are always capable of paying more voluntarily. but lets face it, the money they want to use comes from others and not them, just ask bernie
Alexander Perry
Ideologies can have circumstances. Either troll or 2iq
Jason Cox
thats a sad attempt at projection.
im not fascist, im not a liberal democrat
Dylan Lewis
lol says you..
Julian Roberts
Any where do they get the power to use the police in this way?
Well, you are choosing to stay then and therefore choosing to be subject to taxes. There's really no other way to think about it, despite your mental cartwheels and contortions.
Things that are socialism: Abolishing private enterprises and running an economy where the public owns the means of production
Things that are not socialism: Taxes Government spending on domestic social programs Regulations on businesses
Isaiah Green
Rofl just by being born in this land is not enough to consent. I am from earth just like all my fellow humans. Imaginary borders don't define rights and don't define laws. Just because I choose to stay does not make me consent to being a tax farm wage slave. I will fight and die for your freedoms.
Colton Rogers
i dont advocate the use of force to quell those i disagree with, so, no, not. fascist
>its das Joos fault so nice to see that from you, you wondrous little facsist.
Consent during birth has nothing to do with anything, that's a laughably bad argument. You are an adult, you have agency, and can make your own decisions. Don't whine about your circumstances and play the victim card, if you don't like your life, go forward and change it. If you don't, your whining is without merit.
Camden Fisher
>I mean the Dems and Liberals had no qualms about taking the labor of their slaves as their own, but man did they get pissed when their slaves were taken from them. This is easily the dumbest thing I've read today.
If you believe this is true, that we're responsible for the past, then you should be cutting checks for reparations for slaves. You dumb fuck.
Angel Brooks
I like how you think you don't live in a bubble, Trumptard. Everyone is in a bubble.
some of the bubbles are more retarded and evidence and logic free, like your own. But they are all bubbles.
Brayden Cox
Sounds great and all, too bad all people arn't equal or motivated to be. Equality fundamentally exists but it's not reality.
Ryder Hall
Believing people have equal rights under the law, also not a socialist idea.
Parker Brown
I get the feeling that OP is trying to troll, not realising this is literally the Ancap position on this. So people are arguing how Ancap is a failure of an ideology and OP is just there thinking he is trolling us all.
Liberals are Moral Empericists. They have been complete retards since the days of Socrates. They judge the universe through their own experiences and FEELINGS. They are litterally non player characters without reasoning Crawling through life with their limited sense. But never find they greater truth because they are disconnected to the logos.
Nathaniel Reed
This is all just a bait thread, gents, but it's still pretty funny since there are actually people in this world who are this stupid
Ethan Jenkins
i am a mexican, for 18 years i have been in the US illegally. i like the US, I MAKE 55000 PER YEAR...
why do you feel the need to project your insecurities onto others user? Fascism is a form of socialism with a nationalist bend instead of world wide. socialism is a left wing ideology, therefore fascism is a left wing ideology, if the dems still held white power views, theyd be no different than the nazis were.
Asher Butler
Yes that's the best we have.
Asher Ross
>democrats >republicans
fuck that shit i'm staying libertarian you faggots, fuck the government
Justin Campbell
equality of opportunity is better than equality of outcome
Parker Sanders
DIS UNEDUCATED DUDE....HIHIHI
Nathaniel Hernandez
nazism is national, (or in their case, skin color) socialism. it was a centrally planned economy with the veneer of capitalism. sure ferdinand porsche still owned his factory, but only the state could tell him what to make and how many to make.
that is a form of socialism, whether you agree or not.
Jordan Powell
The problem is that you are too fucking stupid to understand how it all works. The rich have been taking from us by underpaying us. We build and buy every fucking thing they make. A billionaire whining over having to pay half a million on a million dollar profit is dumb as hell, you still got half a million dollars. No they still cry when they are paying pennies compare to the $1000s that normal people pay. That half a million wont affect their lives, but if you or I owe $10,000 in taxes, were FUCKED. But the current system says we pay, not them. Yet they enjoy the power to fix elections and change any law that they want. You are an idiot. and your fucking stupidity is literary standing up and proclaiming that enjoy being ripped off. Maybe you think that one day you'll be in that clup of 500 Americans that horde all the wealth, well that's not happening. So fuck you idiot, you should have paid attention in school instead of worrying about your next blowjob from some even dumber whore.
Nathan Hernandez
It's hilarious that you think equality of opportunity exists in America
Luke Howard
If the Government is rendering us services give me a receipt for the services I'm paying for, what I'm paying for them, and let me opt in or out of those services.
Mason Peterson
>parties basically just swapped I can't believe you guys still believe this faggy fairy tale.
Leo Johnson
I'd support that. You might be surprised that quite a few Confederacy monuments were put up after WW2 by Republicans.
That said, I don't think they should be celebrated, but I think memorials for those who died in the wars are okay, and statues can be put in museums to remind of us of the horrors.
It was a hard time for the working man, regardless of color.
Jordan Harris
>Thinking that it's ok to steal the fruits of anothers labor to give to those who refuse to work That sounds like capitalism. Whats strange is that conservatives don't care when their boss steals most of their surplus, but throw a fit when a poor person gets a few hundred a month from the government.
Lincoln Wilson
Nazism is anti democratic pro socialism, check you're facts.
Logan Richardson
tyrone and mike go to the same school, take the same classes. tyrone graduates with a c average and mike graduates with an a average. how is the opportunity not there for tyrone to do better?
Blake Roberts
Well... I don't really view taxation as theft, but I understand the working man's frustration with the state taking some of his earned income against his will.
That said, the only difference between Sanders and Reagan is how much of your income they want to take; so as long as you support a politician that argues for taxation, you're still arguing for the state to "steal" income from that worker.
So... not only are Sanders voters supporting the state "stealing" income - so are Trump voters.
So my point is that it is equally okay for people to steal Trump bumper stickers.
Robert Edwards
Thanks to Obama, it's getting better though.
Jonathan Roberts
More
Joshua Reyes
because when tyrone and mike go to apply for a job, mike's resume will be valued over tyrone's because his fucking name isnt tyrone
If you don't like paying taxes, user, leave the country. Find yourself a libertarian paradise that will self-destruct within a few years of founding. Then you'll end up paying taxes to the replacement gov't, but hey, you stood by your principles.
Aaron Price
You're a stupid nigger. Why would you escape such a rich country to live in this sexist, homophobic, xenophobic shithole?
Tyler Evans
kek
Brody Barnes
where the fuck did that come from?
i asked where was the lack of opportunity for tyrone to have done better.
not what others do for or against him for his name.
now again since youre too stupid or obtuse. where is the lack of opportu ity for tyrone to have done better?
Aaron Turner
It really is though, although Bracko set us back a few decades.
Carter Perez
Tyrone would do fine with a good resume and attitude, he would do charity ect to build that up if he had to.
Lucas Turner
>believing systemic racism is a thing in hiring practices still most large companies that provide living wages have seperate HR that do hiring for the business, they often hire to create diverse groups instead of going for slightly more qualified candidates. If you think we have to go into every backwards ass burger joint and train the managers who make 30k a year to not be racist you are insane. It goes both ways too, I've heard stories of people not being hired because of being a majority. people need to shut up about this crap and learn to analyze each case individually. quit painting with such broad strokes because you are just causing more issues and disruption which will lead to more peoples lives being ruined.
Jacob Ortiz
One word, Taco Bell.
Kayden Ross
>That sounds like capitalism That sounds like you don't have any idea of what capitalism is. Stealing is no part of it.
Jason Roberts
>>check you're facts NICE GRAMMAR YOU UNEDUCATED FOOL
Hudson Reyes
Black people have life on easy mode. Tyrone wouldn't even have to show credentials.
Bentley Flores
Another liberal but not-as-liberal cancerous network.
Brayden Rodriguez
I TRY TO NOT TO INTERACT WITH MOST OF AMERICANS, they are stupid, obese, gullible, and lazy...
>I can't argue against the points, so I'll knock him for his spelling, that'll show him
Ethan Moore
They are generous though! They want to help their fellow man through donating in church! They often start fundme pages or similar to help their fellow citizens with their healthcare bills!
Hudson Sanchez
your talking points are retarded, just like it or not, wont make a difference for me or you to argue,. you are beyond repair, and you know it...
Dylan Williams
Grasp at what ever you can. It hurts being wrong I get it.
Matthew Fisher
i have never seen that.. maybe some, most the ones i know are petty, stingy and know no better that those peasants from 300 years ago..
Austin Thomas
The fascist left being fascist and it's somehow projection?
this is also known as affirmative action and is inherently racist
Chase Murphy
still a dolt , mate
Luis Cruz
Oh... well I kinda assume they do, because it's the only country with gofund.me pages for healthcare bills...
Wyatt Hall
nah, im more an actual person than an npc like you. fascism IS a leftist ideaology whether you want to admit it or not. simply by the fact that its socialism with a nationalist twist.
however, now that i think about it, the leftist socialists today still make it about skin color. damn, the left today is the same as the left yesterday. nothings changed except what skin color you guys will accept
Liam Lewis
Ok repair man
Jaxson Perry
why did you put a nazi where the niggers go?
Asher Martinez
but his name is still Tyrone De'shawn literally every person who isnt a nigger will think thats a fucking retarded name
Andrew Brown
I'm surprised by how many people took the bait for this thread.
Luke Jackson
i love how righties resort to calling someone an NPC like it actually means something. youre just doing the same thing they are: parroting what your racist uncle said, but this times youre just a racist republican
Ive personally hired a guy named Ty (Not even abbreviated, it was Ty). I don't care about a name myself.
Henry Rogers
>parroting what your racist uncle said My uncle said skin color doesn't matter, and this defends the NPC comment? >proves NPC
David Collins
will you stop with the ad hominen attacks on me, or is that your whole schtick? to call people names in the hopes that they just go away?
take what i say on instead if you can. i bet you like traps dont you? you stood with her didnt you? or did you feel the bern? cock cages turn you on dont it? you dream one day to walk the streets of S.F. so you can have sex with your gay partner and not be thought of as the waste of nature you are.
You're literally describing the Soviet Union, I hope you realise how ironic that. "Don't work, don't eat" is literally quoted from the "moral code of the builder of communism" drawn up by the ussr's politburo (google it).
all of you blame rich people, whites, heterosexuals, normal people, men, women, kids, money, food, air, water, fish, bugs, insects for all your problems.
the left can only nigger memes from the right
Adam Thompson
When was the last time someone built schools or repaired bridges? Almost the entire infrastructure budget is squandered.
Dylan Gutierrez
Yup classic identity politics illustrated, typical of the left.
Jonathan Diaz
We are doing something about it. We're voting against your selfish bullshit.
Entitlements are called that because you are entitled to them, because you pay for them in taxes.
Unemployment is there for the times when you happen to be unemployed, you pay for it through taxes while you are employed.
Do some people cheat? Sure. Is that a good reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater? Nope.
No system is 100% efficient, but when you have 330 million people, you can't rely on local charity to distribute aid - hence we have a national system.
The parties switched in the civil rights era, so the people mad about the slaves being taken away are modern day republicans.
This is a masterclass is not understanding anything, or toddler level trolling.
>This is a masterclass is not understanding anything, or toddler level trolling.
Welcome to modern conservatives - raised on a diet of Murdoch propaganda and voting against their own interests because they think they'll all be millionaires one day
Oh, that's what they call it, but it's not actually a thing.
Blake Cruz
when did the left become anti-meme?
Oliver Jones
It al comes down to this for me;
I would much rather hang around a conservative than a liberal. Most liberals always want to fight about shit or push their agenda and conservatives don’t care as long as the constitution isn’t being violated.
Adam Cook
The parties never switched. The Democrats wanted to keep their race/class separation by keeping blacks as slaves, keeping them from voting, etc.
In the civil rights era, the Democrats decided to get the blacks to sell themselves back into slavery by getting them to sign up for welfare, even encouraging them to not get married, so they could get more welfare as unwed mothers.
When in doubt, look at this picture of the Democrats gathering for a demonstration...