Flat tax rate of 15% across the board. No exceptions no breaks no questions. No more need for an IRS. No more need to give the government an interest free loan. No more loopholes for rich fags to exploit.
So I was thinking:
Camden King
Dylan Miller
Abolish taxes.
Xavier Reed
>im just saying that taxing the rich motivates the government to have more rich people
And I'm saying that's wrong. More rich people doesn't create extra wealth out of thin air but progressive taxation works towards that anyway by using taxes from the rich to fund programs to elevate the lower classes so they can pay more too.
Most of the policies that would favor the rich revolve around taxes anyway so you're trying to argue that taxing the rich will make the government favor the rich so they won't tax them as much, it makes no sense.
>In which fairytale-wonderland will this work out?
We already have programs that help lower classes, we just obviously need more.
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Well I do think we should enforce more regulation regarding wages especially considering stuff like how we basically subsidize Walmart wages because of how many o them are on welfare. Of course there's significant push back on that from people on libertarian grounds, because they think it's too big of a burden and will lead to downsizing, or because they're right owners who want to pay less. That last category being the ones who also put the most money behind lobbying.
Thomas Gutierrez
They resist such measures and have the most money to buy lobbying and political support.
Not saying we shouldn't do it but it's no easy thing.
I'm not gonna engage the "Le taxation is theft" but as long as we do have modern tax systems I see no reason why those that have biggest share of wealth shouldn't contribute more.
Ryder Martinez
>never think of maybe putting laws in place that force company owners to pay their workers fair(er) wages
Except that's a complete lie, they do push for higher wages all the time.
A national 15 dollar minimum and higher minimums generally is a huge talking point on the left.
It's the right that generally opposes and blocks such measures.
Like seriously wyf are you talking about? It's like you're completely out of touch with reality.
Carson Collins
There's a marginal value of money.
$1000 to a poor person may be a life-changing amount of money. $1000 to a rich person is just something they leave in their account.
Also, if there is the "strong social safety net" of government programs, you can make a nice pie graph about "equal taxes" but once you factor in the effects of government assistance programs you end up in a situation that doesn't look much different from "higher tax on rich" anyway. You've just introduced the inefficiencies of government as a middleman.
Mason Phillips
Because everyone else is getting poorer too.
The rich are taking up a bigger and bigger percentage of the wealth, leaving less for the rest of us. They use this wealth to influence law to their whim including reducing regulation on themselves and how they treat and compensate workers.
They can use their wealth to get around crumbling infrastructure that the rest of us rely on and push to cut such funding to reduce their tax burden even further.
Dylan Young
You wouldn't make up enough in loophole elimination to make up the difference and while it's easy to say "eliminate loopholes" rich people will always spend more to hire smarter people to find or make new loopholes.
Camden Long
People need to work, they don't need cigarettes.