Well Yea Forums?

No. For a fly to, well, fly, it must supply a downward force to the air equal to its weight. In a closed container, that air cannot escape, so its motion supplies a downward force to the container that is exactly the same as the weight of the fly.

Now, the apparent weight of the jar will fluctuate slightly as the flies accelerate and decelerate, but the fluctuations will always average out to the weight of the flies.

Also, if the container isn't sealed, such as an open cage, then the air can escape into the environment without transferring its full downward force to the cage, and it will be lighter when the flies are flying.

Flies weigh like .00005 kg each so you're fucking retarded and it's 1kg either weigh ;)

Half a kilo is damn heavy for a fucking fly

The flapping of the flies' wings produces downforce. The weight will be more than 1 kg.

I don’t believe that. That’s like saying just because I have a a 5 lb bag of sugar above my head while I’m on the scale it’s going to read 5 lbs heavier. The flies don’t contribute to the measurable weight until they’re applying weight to that that is being measured, IE: the jar.

Trick question, the jar is filled with water.

I even found a picture of the jar to prove my point.

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kilograms are a measure of mass, not weight.

The question is invalid.

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This guy explained it pretty well

Op from your response. I can get behind this reasoning... thank you

This. Thanks for writing this, saved me the trouble. Good to see another physicsfag here.

/thread

Its fucking obvious that the answer isnt 1 because otherwise it wouldnt make sense to ask the question
There is guy above who explained it pretty well

Not who you're replying to, but in order to stay in the air, the flies need to beat their wings with about 50 newtons of force.

To be quite honest I just copied and pasted the most viable explanation in the most simplest of terms. I'm not very smart but my Google-Fu is strong.

Flies don't stay in the air because they just hover, they stay in the air because they exert a downwards force equal to their own weight.

>le common terminology is acktchually wrong

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It is 1.5 regardless of whether the flies landed or not.

Good enough nigger

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Thanks faglord

You're right. A Danly press would never come with a Verson Feed system, so It would never be included on the 1960's Oldsmobile ownership tag that was on that press. I can only Assume that the Verson transfer system added at least another 2 tons to 705.

So if a fly weighs .5 kg and the jar weighs 1 kg so in theory if 1 fly lands it will go to 1.5 basic math all right.

There is 5 flies so your have a high chance of getting the weight past 1.5 a higher probability risk but that’s not what your asking.

There is no way it can be .5 kg because of the jar on the scale already so on random intervals it should be 1.5 kg to 2 kg and should normally be 1kg the most often.

What do you think Yea Forums I’m I over analyzing the question or what?

Fuck off with your retarded reddit spacing. We've already solved this so-called problem.

Stfu neet

I made it as prompt as possible for your negative IQ ape mind to read you autistic cunt

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I laugh at people trying to help my beta cuck undeveloped mind

I didn't read it, because your reddit brain doesn't mesh with mine, and would just make me feel dumber trying to comprehend it.

That's just too much, no one can be that fucking stupid.

>hotlinking an image on Yea Forums in Yea Forums
how can we possibly compete?

weighs 0 cause I hit the tare button by accident

If your fat basement dwelling ass wasn’t so fucking lazy to clean the cum and Cheeto dust hardened mixture on your keyboard you could actually click of this site and go to reddit

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Why would I want to goto your homeland? I don't enjoy sucking peckers. You obviously do, so please, go back there and polish all those knobs that you crave in your mouth.

reminder

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Hold the fuck up it says the jar weighs 1 kg but he doesn’t say shit about the lid of the jar it could weigh anything the flies were a distraction

What's it like to be smarter than Einstein?

Kinda but no. Start with that OG HS second law.
F=ma
This will sorta work if the flys were to start running into the walls but fluids is a little grosser. For that we need to add a couple terms.

d(mv)=sig(F'external') + sig(mv)'in' - sig(mv)'out'

Basically, because the mass of air in the jar is constant we can eliminate the terms associated with the flow of momentum in and out. What's left is this

dmv/dt=sig(F'external')

The only thing that could possibly produce an external force would be a change in momentum of the air. Or a fly crashing into the side.

If all the flys just hovered, there would be no external force as the system would reach steady state and the change in momentum over time term would zero out.

Now to the open lid. With the lid closed, flys hovering at steady state would not produce external forces because the momentum of the air would be directed both up and down. Two forces that cancel out. But if the jar were open and air left the jar with greater momentum than it enters with then I would create a net downward external force and could be picked up by the scale. This is how jet engines work.

But again. The air coming in the top would have to have less momentum than the air exiting the top.

Also this could be massed at 1.5 kg at all times.

What’s it like to be the dirt under my boots? You filthy peasant!

He deleted it? Because I still see it after refreshing.

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probably cached

Fuck off faggot. Stop thinking anyone is gonna read that reddit spaced drivel.

Chill your feeble mind you tard

Leave and go back to your fabled land that you retards were bragging about earlier.

>Kinda but no. Start with that OG HS second law.
>F=ma
>This will sorta work if the flys were to start running into the walls but fluids is a little grosser. For that we need to add a couple terms.
>d(mv)=sig(F'external') + sig(mv)'in' - sig(mv)'out'
>Basically, because the mass of air in the jar is constant we can eliminate the terms associated with the flow of momentum in and out. What's left is this
>dmv/dt=sig(F'external')
>The only thing that could possibly produce an external force would be a change in momentum of the air. Or a fly crashing into the side.
>If all the flys just hovered, there would be no external force as the system would reach steady state and the change in momentum over time term would zero out.
>Now to the open lid. With the lid closed, flys hovering at steady state would not produce external forces because the momentum of the air would be directed both up and down. Two forces that cancel out. But if the jar were open and air left the jar with greater momentum than it enters with then I would create a net downward external force and could be picked up by the scale. This is how jet engines work.
>But again. The air coming in the top would have to have less momentum than the air exiting the top.
>Also this could be massed at 1.5 kg at all times.

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Tf is the pic

nice pic. saved.

Ok tell what ever you want to tell yourself you mongoloid

nigger who the actual fuck hotlinks images

Some who doesn’t clutter up their memory drive with pictures of a suicidal white character and a bi polar frog with shitty faces and doing random crap

How does it feel to be a schizo? I've always wondered if it feels like an acid trip gone wrong, just that your problems become visual and auditory rather than just "mind playing tricks lol"

For your own sake and the sake of everyone else on this website, please download 4chanX or equivalent. You can post images from links like normal.

Here's why the question is not intuitive:
Average fly is 20 milligrams so you would need 25,000 flies for half a kg.
The picture shows five of them.
The average person could probably figure out that 25,000 flies is going to generate a lot of downward force, but that shitty picture throws them off.

I ain’t filling up my monitor with more porn then there needs to be especially with fucking nasty ass shit

it's a chrome extension, it makes the website a lot better. now I sound like a fucking shill, but unironically it's a great extension.

Kek alright I might think about it the last time I was on this sight was like 2 months ago and even then I barely go here because of the shit storm threads I’ve heard about the place for years but never really got around to going on the site unless I’m bored and ducking around

Hurr durr my reddit spacing, go fuck your self faggot, sorry I like my comments being readable and not just an illegible mass of words

You’re the type of nigger that needed to study for your pen licence weren’t you?

its 1 kg, anyone who says otherwise are larping as a faggot wannabe scientist

My exact thoughts with most people on this site they are either trolling or actually mentally handicapped

>clutter up their memory drive
kek, that's a shit excuse.

pic related, my meme folder properties.
Have a fuckton on pictures and webms and am well under 2gb.

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>Stop thinking anyone is gonna read that reddit spaced drivel.
Imagine having never heard of the improved readability effects of whitespace.

You don't need to double space your posts on Yea Forums. No one's going to give you feedback in between the lines.

Not just spacing but also tabbing and pressing return will help your eyes when staring at a wall of of text plus proper punctuation would hurt if you were typing a long sentence

Mine's only 3.01gb. Thought it would be bigger, but I guess that's what she said.

So you collect images of “rare pepes” if you read my comment before I don’t go on this site very often

It just looks nicer and is easier to read

you do you, mate

Exactly what I’m trying to say

Okay

Thank

You

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Will

Faggot

>be me
>get into a discussion about flies stuck in a jar
>turns into a talk about proper sentences

All true, but I was looking for a pithy, short expression to put the fuckwit in his place. Better to wound with a rapier than club them with an encyclopedia.

Nothing worse then an unpunctuated wall of misspelt words

Think of this this way... if you trapped flies in a balloon, what would it weight?

shut fuck up

>No one's going to give you feedback in between the lines.
That's not the purpose. Readability is.

Put me in the screenshot

Remember me as well

nouveaux faguette detected

You forgot the full-stops after each of your monoverbal sentences

Story of the weirdest shit I heard while at school
>be me
>11 years ago
>7th grade
>school has shit system with points for students you can lose them with bad behavior and shit
>idgaf.mp4
>want to go to sunsplash for end of the year fieldtrip
>not enough points to go yet
>go to a room after school for to spend 1 hour doing nothing to earn 2 points back
>more kids are coming while the teacher is telling us to go sit while she set things up
>kids start asking eachother here prison style you get the idea
>comes to this one weird ass maybe autistic 8th grader
>he says he is here because he told an Afghani kid to go back to his country and step on a land mine
>laughtrack.mp4
>kek so hard I start wheezing for air
>teacher standing there in disbelief kicks him out
>sadface.jpeg

That’s to far nigger

it's a trick question, it has to be 1 because the flies weight .5kg each, if you're counting each fly there isn't a high enough number from the multiple choices provided as answers to chose.

*too

Damn this is Reddit

but said force doesn't work on the scale with their exact weight.