Reminder...

>lots of liberals advocate life for everything.
Except precisely for human fetuses, dumb roastie.

Bacteria isn't human life.

>when the liberal goes off script

>abortion
Your bodily autonomity is among your most important and hardest rights, and must be inviolable, that includes the right not to have your body used by another life.
>gun control
Property rights, by comparison, are way down the pole and routinely violated for the better of society.

Nowhere in the history of humans has a woman ever given birth to anything other than a human.

So you wouldn't want someone whos braindead to be killed?

I don't think thats what theyre sayin, they sayin people who think fetuses should have the right to live are probably the same type of people who have feelings for a bug

Reminder you can't kill something that isn't alive, and that guns are for massive pussies.

>better of society
Guns make for a safer society. Statistics prove it. Also killing babies is wrong. Life begins at foreplay

Liberals literally getting triggered over what someone else does with their fetus. Its not even YOUR fetus. That is such a liberal thing to be mad about.

Pretty good bait until the foreplay part, gotta admit.

>Your bodily autonomity is among your most important and hardest rights
Yeah, that's surely the reason we can buy any kind of drug in every corner.
>Property rights, by comparison, are way down the pole and routinely violated
A human right violation.
>Article 17: Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
>for the better of society.
Better for who? The government, the corporations?

At what point does a baby become alive? When is a mother allowed to murder him, if so when?

>and that guns are for massive pussies
The Founding Fathers were quite the opposite and they knew a armed society is a society that has a chance to rebel oppression.
The fetus it's its own thing.

You're allowed to kill the fetus at anytime before 8 months I think. No issue with that.

>be pro life
>go kill people
>promote human rights by having a gun to do so
>except for women having control over their own body
right wing = retarded

Ask it what it wants then, ask it if it cares.

>Guns make for a safer society. Statistics prove it.
There's little correlation between a safer society and gun ownership. A safe society is one that has its shit together, the american one does not - and guns act as a problem multiplier in a society that doesn't have its shit together.
> Yeah, that's surely the reason we can buy any kind of drug in every corner.
I don't see how that's related. No one can force something on or in your body, but that doesn't mean you get to have access to any substance.
> No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
>arbitrarily
There's that word. It comes up a lot when people routinely are deprived of their property.
> Better for who? The government, the corporations?
Society, as I said. Learn to read.

>guns are not a right
>2nd amendment
I'm legit confused it is my god given right to own guns if you wanna kill your own child you should have to do it yourself.

serious question for you retards who care about some retarded fetus getting killed, are you also against euthanasia?

I'm hoping someday that Planned Parenthood and the NRA join forces and find a way to safely use guns in conduction of abortions.

>but that doesn't mean you get to have access to any substance.
Owning drugs is quite illegal in the United States and in several parts of the world.
>Federal law makes even possession of "soft drugs", such as cannabis, illegal
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_of_drugs
>Society
Why is it better for society?

*goes on a killing spree with a foetus*
*shoots up a school with a foetus*
*commits mass terrorism with a foetus*
*rapes multiple white wimmenz at foetus point*
*grows a gun in own womb*

reminder that you're mentally retarded to compare two entirely different things

I don't see the problem here. You get to control your body. You don't get access to whatever substance you want. Those are strictly different issues.
> Why is it better for society?
Because a society where people don't get routinely shot makes for a safer, less paranoid society.

One gives life, the other brings death. You must be extraordinarily dumb to not see any connection.

>Self defense against a thug
>Literal 1st degree murder of an innocent child
These are not the same

Would you want someone who's killed 500 children living next to you?

life begins at birth though, christians should kill themselves

what's the thug carrying in this world where you aren't allowed guns? you gonna shoot a man with a knife? faggot

One is about body autonomy.

The other is about owning an automatic weapon secretly

Whose science?

Gun ownership doesn't necesarilly implies high amount of shootings. That's mostly an American thing, libtard faggot.

bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/switzerland-high-gun-ownership
youtu.be/B-niYj0u_Q8?t=90

Which brings me back to what I wrote earlier:
> There's little correlation between a safer society and gun ownership. A safe society is one that has its shit together, the american one does not - and guns act as a problem multiplier in a society that doesn't have its shit together.
I'm sorry your short term memory sucks.

So I'm down with clariflying that it would make for a better society in the US.

Fair enough. Abortion still is not a human right.

Why do you not have the right to control what organisms reside in your body?

Americans have the right to carry guns because of “government tyranny” and encase the country is invaded during war time. The right to wield guns will never be taken away just because it has done more good than harm. Comparing abortion to gun ownership however is absolutely illogical as there is not much to make for a comparison between the two.

It's another human being with his/her own DNA. It's not part of your body.

So? Why would that other human have a right to parasitically use a woman's body?
Also, why does "a human" have rights despite not being a person yet?

>Also, why does "a human" have rights despite not being a person yet?
Who decides when it is or is not a person?

Nicely dodged half the question, hm?
>Who decides when it is or is not a person?
During the first ~ten weeks, it's simple. You cannot be a person without brain activity (we recognize this in braindead patients, and pull the plug), and preceding that point, there is no brain. Afterwards, we'll need to check on the basis of brain activity - it'll be hard to find the spot where thoughts can happen, but it'll be doable.

But that's probably past the point where a baby is viable out of the womb.

Now back to the question you just ignored: Why would any human get to parasitically use the body of another human without their consent?

Go back to your containment board

>So? Why would that other human have a right to parasitically use a woman's body?
95%+ of the women who use abortions put the babies there willingly, it wasn't put there through a wound or something

>95%+ of the women who use abortions put the babies there willingly
No, they didn't. They may have accepted a risk, but they weren't willing to get pregnant. That's a pretty big difference, unless you now want to generally shrug and raise the middle finger at people taking risks, such as extreme sports or driving cars.

Abortion is fine, and so are owning guns.

"I support the murder of innocent children"

"I think women should have extra rights"

Except that your average taxpayer doesn't have to pay for a gun owner's weapon, training, ammunition, or insurance, if any; whereas the average taxpayer starts paying for an unwanted child almost from conception through Medicare and free housing, on through the teen years with access to free education and adolescent healthcare, and likely until death through either continued welfare consumption or repeated incarceration. Frankly I'm in favor of moving the abortion cutoff up around 420 months.

~3000 gun deaths in 2019
~700 children killed
~82 "mass" shootings (more than 3 people harmed)
According to the CDC, ~60,000 deaths from guns yearly, with all but 11,000 of those being accidents or suicides, and the rest attributed to gang violence and crime.
In 2008, the CDC estimated 500,000 lives saved by guns, compared to the 300,000 lives lost that year, so we can extrapolate that 100,000 lives were saved by guns in the last year
Meanwhile, there were roughly 926,200 abortions in 2014 alone. 0 lives saved, ~10 women died in the abortion process, and many more go through trauma afterwards.

>In 2008, the CDC estimated 500,000 lives saved by guns
>the gun saved you from a situation that wouldn't have happened if this country weren't full of guns, buy more guns!
> Meanwhile, there were roughly 926,200 abortions in 2014 alone. 0 lives saved
Wrong, there's a significant amount of necessary abortions due to medical risk.

How many then, and do you have sources, cause according to the CDC, that number is negligable enoigh to not include where they included why people got them. Top 3 reasons held by 75% of women were that they were concerned about that responsibility, that they couldn't afford it, or that it would interrupt their work life.

Objective biology. Arguing against objective fact makes my point for me. It's a human being.

It's a human child, not an organism.

A human child is an organism, and it isn't a child until after birth.

>Nigger crime is the same thing as a woman murdering an innocent baby

I’m glad you understand

liberals are by definition anti-logic and pro-feels. do not use reason or logic based arguments with them

Attached: a mario bowsette.png (552x816, 625K)

If it can’t live outside of the mother it’s not a child

Yeah and you know you can't 'reverse' the side effects of taking the risks of extreme sports, if you die you die, and that's why people opt in for safer sports. If only people could 'abort' their death.

Who said you get to decide who's human? It's an undebatable point of biological fact

How many guns have you given birth to?

Who said you do? It’s not undebateable. The point at which a embryo becomes a person is the very debate.

Nevermind, found it. According to a 2004 Guttmacher Institute study conducted with ~1,200 post abortive mothers, 4% cited "health issues" as their reason, 3% cited complications with the fetus and less than .5% cited rape. Conversely, 25% weren't ready for a child, 23% couldn't afford a baby, and 19% were done having children.

From the CDC again, unmarried women accounted for 83% of abortions in 2015, so i'd be willing to bet that most of those percentages haven't changed since then

All you people act like you care till the second the kid comes out

I'm not the one who conflated the two, just trying to show why it's mridiculous to agrue them side by side

No one wants more abortions. So let’s just increase sex ed funding and provide free birth control. Then everyone wins

I didn't debate "human" you strawmanning faggot
"human" isn't worth shit, people are, children are. And that's post-birth.

An 8 month baby literally can. The record is 22 weeks. How does it feel to support the slaughter of babies, literally tearing apart the bodies of children is an indefensible position morally.

>If a cake isn't a cake before it comes out of the oven, we should be allowed to just through out all our cakes before they finish

Abortions that late in term are for medical reasons. The child would be unviable or the life of the mother in danger.

You changed the subject from biology lol. This friends is intellectual dishonesty

Why are you taking it to extremes? Most abortions take place way before 8 months. Late term abortion is to save the mothers life and is extremely rare

Do what you want with your cakes

You good sir are a scholar, this would likely be the best solution next to at least nuking public funding of abortion

>He dislikes communist/socialist economics therefore he's worse than a woman who slaughters children

I’m a different person but the point where an embryo becomes a person is biology

The real question up for debate is “at which point is the fetus considered life?”
To make decisions on behalf of a woman as it pertains to her body is not justified UNLESS her own decision causes an externality that results in something like murder of another life (that happens to exist inside her womb.)
I can count on one hand the amount of time this sentiment has been shared with me. I would be heartened if the western world started to agitate the debate toward this key question.

There is no medical condition at 8 months that can't be corrected with a c section and live birth, this is a lie. If the baby has died, and a death certificate can be issued, then a procedure to exhume the dead child can be done.

The problem is that most people who are pro life are anti free birth control. If you care so much about the babies you should be decreasing the rate of unwanted pregnancies

Which is it, 22 weeks or 8 months?
Anyways, insofar it can be done, sure, go ahead. But I'm sure you've actually studied this subject, user MD.

>Day 40
Not murder
>Day 80
Murder

Explain who slicing up an infant into bloody pieces is defensible. At what day is it not ok to commit murder?

The point isn't that it's already a child, no one's disputed that here. The point is that within 9 months of conception, give or take a few days and barring the rare chance of complications, that "cluster of cells" will be a whole human, just because you allowed it to form by letting your boyfriend fill you up like a twinkie doesn't mean that it's okay to not even give it a chance at life and to just cut it so short.

governments don't have feelings you stupid americuck

Maybe the best route is for people to have some reverence for sex and some fucking personal responsibility. You suggest what you just said like it’s the only possible course of action. Fucking western world is full of hedons

I am pro free birth control, where are you finding these other people. Don't think I've met a pro-life person who isn't a fan of free birth control as well

The day of conception is when that person was created. The first day of your life was the day you were conceived. There is no question about the point when that human beings life began scientifically speaking.

I think you meant heathen, hedon's like a measure of happiness and a town in europe

I’m sorry are you a doctor?

I guess not because you have never heard of premature rupture of membranes, uterine infection, preeclampsia, placental abruption and placenta accreta

When it can survive outside of the mother

Only really skipped through the thread since most of you guys are retarded. This post really stands out to me though. You said it all yourself.. they're taking the risk.. it's really painful to know how dense you are

how many abortions has Don Trump gotten for his whores?

Attached: BN-XX441_0319CO_M_20180319141240.jpg (634x853, 97K)

Sure you can wish for that. But then you are putting your puritanical beliefs above the lives of the children you care so much about. Access to sex Ed and birth control reduces the number of abortions

GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS
GET THAT FETUS
KILL THAT FETUS

If you are a doctor and have abandoned the Hippocratic Oath (actively murdering patients), you have a moral obligation to stop practicing medicine.

Well, im sorry to tell you that there is absolutely a question. It is by nature a philosophical question as it will never be answered definitively. Maybe it would be beneficial to define the term life with criteria

Really? The religious right who are against having to pay for birth control because it is against their religion? Never heard of them?

You're taking the risk when you step in the car. No ambulance for you.
You're taking the risk when you buy a clothes dryer. No firefighters for you.
You're taking the risk when you go into a bad part of town. No police for you.

Yes there is

C-section can be performed just as readily as a murder procedure. Considering there are literally two human loves at stake it's the only option medically. Once you've abandoned the idea of saving human life and embraced murder, you should not be allowed to practice.

Aren't you the dramatic one? Your patient is the pregnant woman. If you, in order to save her, need to terminate a pregnancy, then that's that. And if you before the fetus is developed enough that it can be called a person abort it, then that's not murder.

Prove it.

Wanting to raise a child in our world of today is unethical if you do not have the means to care for it. Besides, killing a fetus and then donating/selling the stem cells seamlike a win for every one involved.

When you are ready for a child make sure to to properly love and educate them. When they are old and responsible enough teach tgem how to safely own and operate fire arms.

Attached: 1547684757116.webm (750x564, 1.93M)

Because I don't want a kid

How long would a 2 year old survive without a mother's constant care?

None of those involve forcing a death rather than saving a life, this argument is more suited for use against people who don't want free birth control. As well as that, the situations you described are all life-threatening to a ridiculous degree, while according to the 4% of abortions from complications earlier, childbirth is not.

Wrong.
Its ok Jesus forgives you ;^)

You're driving your car without a seatbelt no ambulance for you.
You're using your dryer recklessly and increase the chance of fire, no firefighter for you.
You're going to a bad part of the town without your gun, no police for you...

Just curious if you can find the pattern

Then why did you fuck without a condom

Yeah, grandpa Amis watching Fox News and screaming about muh freedoms and Timmy on r/incel talking about how AOC is an evil communist and all muslims and trannies should be gunned down are not at all making decisions based on emotion!

You stupid fucking virgin faggot. Neck yourself.

Its a human ORGANISM that is technically alive but far from self aware or even conscious. I feel as bad killing a fetus as I do a vegetable.

They all involve risk-mitigation. You take risks all the time, and you have mitigation strategies provided for them. Insurances, emergency services, backup plans, welfare, homeless shelters, any first-world nation will let you mitigate your risk to the nth degree.

Also, "a death" isn't dramatic and "a life" isn't precious. People are, and early-term abortions, i.e. the vast majority, aren't.
imagine living in such a shithole that you need a gun to go outside

Murder is a biological and legal question.
It's a biological fact that your life began on day 1 of your mom's pregnancy
>If you, in order to save her, need to terminate a pregnancy, then that's that
There is no medical condition that would prevent a C-section. You are dodging and willfully ignoring there are two lives - this disqualifies you from practicing medicine legally. I genuinely feel sorry for anyone in your medical "care".

Most doctors aren’t going to kill a viable 8 month old baby. Show me one case where this happened. The only ones I know are the doctor who were actually charged with murder. No one advocates for killing viable 8 month old fetuses with out medical necessity. Show me anyone who is arguing for that

They can survive forever. Do they need care yes but it doesn’t need to be form their mother. A 20week fetus though would not be able to survive outside of the womb

>it’s a biological fact

No it’s not

Right? You can feel lucky to be aborted instead of being born into that neighborhood

No one is arguing against saving a fetus that's viable. You're the only one who keeps thumping about that edge case.

Because condoms make sex not nearly as fun and just in case she gets pregnant she can geg an abortion so yay unsafe sex

If self awareness is a requirement for humanity (and murder laws to apply) then slaughtering 3 year olds and coma patients and invalids is legal.

One is an organism, the other is a inanimate tool.

Fetus != child

I can feel lucky not living in such a shithole country where people need to arm themselves just to leave their house.

>Most doctors aren’t going to kill a viable 8 month old baby
It should be a crime, not a choice.
>Moves goal posts to justify slaughtering a defenseless child
It's an undebatable biological certitude. The first day of your life was the moment of conception

Yeah well you're probably assuming wrong where I might be living.. people in countries with strict gun laws might actually still be pro gun.

The funny thing about abortion is that it’s the most capitalistic move a person could pull. Why the fuck would somebody want to pay for a baby who does not work, is stupid as shit, lazy, and takes resources from you for several decades? Thats the equivalent of a nigger.

Lefties love socialism, but only when they are the ones who get to steal the money from other people and be lazy niggers

a GPS coordinate is what makes us human beings?

It is a crime to kill a viable child without medical need. The reason I said most is because their are doctors who have done it and they are in jail for murder.

3 year olds are capable if self awareness, but I would argue killing literal infants and coma patients is just fine as well. The world is populated enough as it is.

I’m not moving the goal post. A two year old and a 20 or 25 week fetus are not the same. One is viable and the other isn’t

Nope. Just a few lines of code

Show me any biologist who says that

See now that's starting to head towards eugenics, rather than killing the ones who are alive in better off countries, why not speed up development in the third world so they stop having as many children

>killing literal infants and coma patients is just fine as well
Note: they always reveal their true feelings. This person assigns no value to the innocent and sick, as well as babies. These type of sadists belong in a steel cage.

You are arguing against something (aborting healthy pregnancies in the 8th month) that no one now or ever has argued for.

Leave a 2 year old alone outside for a week without any adults around like in a forest, chances are it won't survive. Even more so for a 1 year old, and definite for a newborn, yet you call those "viable"

>The first day of your life was the moment of conception

no, that was the first day of your mother's pregnancy

Yes because if they are taken away from their mother they will survive. A fetus won’t. Not for a week, not for an hour, not for a second

A C-section would still be in order if the woman wished to no longer be pregnant. Not doing so either ignoring biological fact and/or murder laws.

Technically the first day of pregnancy (I have gone through a shit ton of fertility procedures) is the first day of menstruation

Are you arguing that a new born left alone in a forest will survive on its own

You can’t perform a c section to remove a 25 week fetus. It won’t survive

No I am not and you know I am not.

user, he's being sarcastic

The moment of conception is when your absolutely unique 23 pairs of chromosomes formed and made your life, it's biologically when you became a human being. There is no debating this scientific certitude. I realize you will try to change the subject or deny this certitude to satiate your unquenchable bloodlust, but that is a legal matter not a biological one.

I have a dream... That one day... Leftists will see through their mistakes in the own arguments

Why not both? The entire world is likely going to end up with some form of population control in the coming century. Bleeding hearts like simply cant see the big picture yet.

Show me a biologist who agrees with you. You can’t just state something is a fact without backing it up.

Jesus Christ I've never sean a strawman preform such impressive mental gymnastics

The leftist argument? He is comparing abortion to leaving a baby in the woods. That is a flawed argument if I ever saw one

>satiate your bloodlust
Lmao yeah bro abortion is all about getting my baby murder boner off lol

When a person with a shotgun wound to the head comes in I'm ethically and legally required to try to resuscitate. The same applies for a human life still inutero. The disconnect is that you are changing the definition of humanity for political purposes away from the objective medical definition. I would tell you to feel shame, but I realize it's an emotion you are incapable of experiencing

You just did, i included a new born in my last statment and you said "those would be viable if left alone unlike a fetus", seems like you didnt read it through

Why? I probably won't be here to read your rebuttal but I want you to at least to try and come up with one for yourself.. why is it different if the 9month old fetus is clearly not able to stay alive without someone else ?

You know I like the idea of denying women what want but I also like the idea of brutality killing babies so I'm pro choice

>owning guns so the government has a feeling of being kept in check

because I'm going to take arms against my government anytime soon. how much of fucking nutcase do you have to be ? oh right just conservative, not batshit crazy.

In both cases it's a person who cannot survive on their own without an adult or at least another experienced child there to help them out

Yeah not everyone will follow their leaders blindly like you though.. (luckily)

Bunch of pencil-dicked alt-righters with wet dreams about going out in a blaze of glory like Waco, but not actually having the stones to take a bullet for their ideals.

The definition of human life is a GPS coordinate, inside or outside a thin flesh barrier

republicans want to force women to give birth to retards, and then force them to pay millions to raise those retards

Attached: hartley hooligans.jpg (1600x1301, 367K)

Exactly.

You don't anything about me at all.

Its funny Child murderers like yourself accidentally stray into a moral argument

Note: the whataboutism, the suggestion that killing adults is fine so of course killing babies is fine. These people belong in steel cages, a 10x10 for the rest of their lives to limit their harm upon society.

>Child murder
>Fetuses with minimal brain function

Well no wonder you have to take arms against the govt with the amount of paranoia and exaggeration of fear you have regarding everything.

Christ Saves

Attached: 1552883916032.png (486x510, 122K)

I do you're too stupid to a sentence

50 years ago women weren't considered people and allowed to vote. I think the same will hold true for fetuses in the next 50 years.

Look at this, iq is now a requirement for humanity.

Fantasizing putting someone in a cage because they disagree with how you think is indicative of how small and fragile your world view is. Also, Prison without dedicated rehabilitation are one of the most cost inefficient forms of correction to exist and will always fail and will always be a drain upon society.

Or you weren't worth the effort to re-check my grammar. You're not really good with people are you? You should leave your basement sometime. lmao

GPS coordinates can overlap, so can people. For example, sex and surgeries have these happening as a part of the whole act, this definition is strange to say the least

>fetuses arent human
>fetuses arent children in development

Huh?

Attached: 1554354904265.jpg (603x761, 142K)

>we disagree
That's not how murder laws work. Luckily human lives are well defined medically.

>duhhhh i make mistake
>duhhh u not worth grug time fix mistake and look smarter

Attached: 1508115905874.jpg (240x260, 22K)

And
>climate change isn't real
>the earth is actually flat
>wind mills cause cancer

I'm sure you got a lot of Huh misbeliefs.

Owning guns to keep the government in check is such an inane idea.

The only way the people can stand up against the government is if the military switches to the people's side. Maybe not all of it, but at least a near-majority.

So instead of getting guns, you guys should teach everyone joining the military that they're always on the people's side and should never attack rioters, etc.

That's what Egypt did, and it really helped them when the leader went nuts. You should learn from them.

Weird what you all know about me while I clearly know (?) nothing about you and have to work with what you throw at me ()

See.. people get annoyed at your world view because once your arguments get proven wrong you turn to just try and insult people.. you can't be taken serious like that yet people are still trying. Show some decency

What? Since when where we talking about murder laws? What is your post even trying to say?

Not surprisingly even with my mistake, I still sound smarter than you.

Attached: 6386d57.jpg (325x325, 28K)

Promoting a culture of disposing of unwanted pregnancies is the death of the fundamental unit of a Nation. (The family unit)
It promotes unlimited sex outside of marriage, which spreads disease, moral decay, Nihilism, unhappy and depressed people.
Norma McCorvey (Roe in Roe v Wade) became a born again christian and regretted her abortion.

There's nothing good in anyone and everyone having access to abortion on a cultural, philosophical, pragmatic, national or any level of thought.
It's immoral in every sense of the word.

>2019
>worshiping a fictional kike
alright then

Attached: 140908-clinton_bush_presidents-1119_bdb70e16158da33cd33be84501f2cd85-1024x683.jpg (1024x683, 85K)

That would almost certainly be the case in any actual civil conflict. Regardless, the government can't just go around bombing its citizens. Policing citizens is not in any way comparable to war on another nation.

There's making logical step conclusions from a person's beliefs and then there's logical leaps, which is what you tend to make. Seeing as how you don't know the difference, I can also infer that you're not very intelligent as well.

Why do you liberals hate cops and the military but think they should own guns and no one else

>Promoting a culture of disposing of unwanted pregnancies is the death of the fundamental unit of a Nation. (The family unit)
>It promotes unlimited sex outside of marriage, which spreads disease, moral decay, Nihilism, unhappy and depressed people.
>Norma McCorvey (Roe in Roe v Wade) became a born again christian and regretted her abortion.
>There's nothing good in anyone and everyone having access to abortion on a cultural, philosophical, pragmatic, national or any level of thought.
>It's immoral in every sense of the word.
Aaaaah now the true power level is revealed. No point in arguing with you slippery slope chicken littles. Sorry the world is changing and you can't keep up, but hold on tight to that religion! I'm sure it will serve you well in these end times.

Good job! You just gave away your bait!

I know you meant that as sarcasm, but you're actually correct.

How many Police does it take to change a lightbulb?

5! One to change the bulb, four to shoot the room for being black!

libtards and their pro abortion argumentation make me think of the nazi's and their eugenics programs

>Promoting a culture of disposing of unwanted pregnancies is the death of the fundamental unit of a Nation. (The family unit)
Disagree. Thats a rather absurd claim with zero precedent. Unless you would like to support your burden of proof?
>It promotes unlimited sex outside of marriage
Wrong. This conclusion makes no sense. Do you seriously believe abortion clinics are telling patient to go out and have unsafe sex? Quite the opposite is true plannedparenthood.org/learn/abortion/considering-abortion
>which spreads disease, moral decay, Nihilism, unhappy and depressed people.
Slippery slope fallacy.
>Norma McCorvey (Roe in Roe v Wade) became a born again christian and regretted her abortion.
Sooooo? How is one womens personal opinion relevant here?
>There's nothing good in anyone and everyone having access to abortion on a cultural, philosophical, pragmatic, national or any level of thought.
Disagree. See previous link for numerous examples of perfectly ethical reasons to consider it.
>It's immoral in every sense of the word.
Wrong. You just dont have a big enough brain to look past your tiny world view

Eugenics is the future user, like it or not.

Attached: 1554008981047.jpg (700x516, 33K)

Agreed :P

what a bullshit statement from OP.
you really think Bubba, his friends, and you can go up against the USMC in the event of a real, honest, throwdown?

You're fucking loony.

>"Americans made up 4 percent of the world's population but owned about 46 percent of the entire global stock of 857 million civilian firearms."[5] U.S civilians own 393 million guns. That is 3 times as many guns as the armed forces of the Russian Federation (30.3 million), China (27.5 million), North Korea (8.4 million), Ukraine (6.6 million), United States (4.5 million), India (3.9 million), Vietnam (3.8 million), Iran (3.3 million), South Korea (2.7 million), Pakistan (2.3 million), and all the other countries (39.7 million) combined. American civilians own more guns "than those held by civilians in the other top 25 countries combined."
>"American civilians own nearly 100 times as many firearms as the U.S. military and nearly 400 times as many as law enforcement."[8] Americans bought more than 2 million guns in May 2018, alone. That is more than twice as many guns, as possessed by every law enforcement agency in the United States put together. In April and May 2018, U.S. civilians bought 4.7 million guns, which is more than all the firearms stockpiled by the United States military.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_ownership

The true redpill is supporting abortion but not because of
>muh body muh rights
But because it will help against overpopulation and also youre sparing a person from going through this shit we call life

Racist white facts, of which i deny

This
Daily reminder the overpopulation will reach crisis mode in 2050 and people need to stop having babies

This

Also i think its funny how retards think that banning guns will reduce crime.You guys should come to visit south america where gun laws are very strict and yet the crime rate is high as fuck.Why?simple,criminals dont abide to laws and will obtain a firearm by illegal means,while a hard working,law abiding citizen will have no way of defending himself

Eugenics is the past, racism is the future

I see no problem with that, so I can now leave this thread happy.

Well...
>According to a city Health Department report released in May, between 2012 and 2016 black mothers terminated 136,426 pregnancies and gave birth to 118,127 babies. By contrast, births far surpassed abortions among whites, Asians and Hispanics.
>Nationally, black women terminate pregnancies at far higher rates than other women as well. In 2014, 36% of all abortions were performed on black women, who are just 13% of the female population.
wsj.com/articles/lets-talk-about-the-black-abortion-rate-1531263697

Racism is largly pointless and a waste of everyone's resources

It's not a pizza until it comes out of the oven.

Attached: jerky.jpg (1280x650, 367K)

Yes actually I would shoot a guy with a knife because that could also kill you fucking liberal twat

kek

Attached: 1499077821_SdBxbA4X.jpg (396x396, 16K)

"God given right"

go to /pol/ this is where we post porn dumbo

Attached: 1555013973629.png (461x820, 306K)

Fuck you, this thread was going to finally die.

Attached: anal.gif (523x560, 512K)