22 TRILLION IN DEBT? LETS GIVE EVERYTHING AWAY

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My idea of reparations is gathering them all up into a city and nuking it. America's crime stats would drop significantly, average IQ would go up, we'd save so much on welfare. I don't see a downside, really.

yeah, or...wild idea...maybe support them and get them jobs and train them and bring them up to a white level society so they can contribute just as much and be a part of it

they only help her getting more popular.

. . . wait . . .
maybe, just maybe, this is a false flag operation?
They actually want her to become more popular.

>using "left"/"libtard" or "right"/"cuckservative" terms to define someone else in 2k19
>The national-approved sheep-speak of brainlet-tier voter livestock
>shitposting on/b/
You're gonna go far, kid

GDP of the entire world is about 80 trillion. nothing to worry about basically

That really is a wild idea. I like mine better.
Problem is, they're literally inferior. it doesn't matter how much we try to boost them up, the vast majority of niggers won't take the hand up, but will happily take the hand out.
I've seen very few blacks last at my job. They're generally gone within a month, two tops due to not showing up for work or being lazy as fuck, etc. We've had a couple of decent ones, but they really are few and far between. Doesn't matter how much I stop and hurt my own productivity to help them out, it's a lost cause.

like they haven't had ages to catch up. niggers are lazy and prefer self victimisations over progress

Average IQ would not go up. Stupid white people are in abundance. For reference see Yea Forums.

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>no downsides

This guy clearly didn't consider the nuclear fallout

but they aren't though - it sounds like you're a lower income earner and work at a place that's hourly or something, and thus blacks coming in to your work and in your world view are inferior. id you add on their culture and upbringing in a shithole on top of slavery and knowing that, i wouldn't give a fuck either.

i've also been amongst a ton of blacks in my career who are just as capable and sometimes better than whites, so i have a different lens because the blacks i'm around are upper-class people

the point is, being poor is one thing, poor and black is another, rich and black is another...

All of the white knights in this thread thinking they'll get to watch a black guy fuck her if they rush to her defense XD

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You sound race cucked

Nah, I just want free shit.

>blame the GOP, they're responsible for it.

Exactly. In February the US spend a little over $4 for every $1 they took in- a new record.

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The absolute state...

lets lower corporate taxes instead! then we will make up the 22 trill haha

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A little over 20 bucks an hour after three years on the job. Not what I'd call amazing, but it's enough for a decent enough living where I live. Once I'm done paying down credit cards, I'll be in pretty damn good shape.

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Just can't stop thinking about gay sex, can you?

youtu.be/FQLElTVQ_bI
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Sorry only the rich get free stuff In America. You peasants and serfs need to work hard to get up to upper class. Lol Na that won’t happen we have systems that don’t allow you unintelligent low life’s to become the 1%. Continue fighting among your selfs black vs whites

Trump is a fag braahhh

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False. I've seen pictures of his wife naked. No penis. Can't say the same about the last squatter in the White House.

Fuck yeah

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Wage gap growing? Let's give a tax break to corporations?

Fuck the right.

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Gay?

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We all know Michael Obama was the one with the penis in that relationship.

You mean like go to school and maybe I don't know, get an education? Or how about their families instilling an actual sense of personal growth? Oh, I'm sorry I see it's far too important to partying and acting the fool to care.

You can’t fix a nigger

Sure kid. Even if she had a penis she way better the any women you ever had

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>penis
>she
And this is why we don't take you liberals seriously.

Conservatives come backs are
Weak
And
Predictable

You can’t fix trumptards.

Oh man, you sure you didn't mean to blow up a pic of the president?

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go suck the dog sperm out of your daddy's ass, faggot

Good that at least you have your fantasies.

Trumptards trying to act coy and aloof is the best. Sarcasm becomes mandatory when you've realized Trump was never the savior you hoped for.

Weak.

cringe and yikespilled

>22 trillion in debt? Where did we borrow that much money from?

Trump is increasing our debt faster retard...

nice try

The fact that you think its a brag to that the First Lady of the United States posed in a nudie magazine is a sad sign of how degraded our citizens have become.

Typical left
They steal the meme game cause they can’t create their own

The First Lady
Did you assume their gender

I mean nuclear radiaton is a bit of a downside but I can see you are a very smart reasonable man so I'll support you and your degenerate trolling

Fuck off

>Bush cut taxes, started two wars, and nixed a bunch of regulations
>economy collapses
>Bush bails out the failing businesses, "too big to fail"
>2019 - dipshits on the internet blame the black guy for the GOPs continued mistakes

Neat. I hope you're too autistic to actually vote, moron

Italian and Irish immigrants used to face a ton of discrimination, and they were just as violent. They were thought to be dumb and inferior. As they integrated (it was easy, they looked white), and their economic conditions improved, so did their rates of violence. The supposed IQ gap closed. Everything fucking went away.

Race and class humiliation, poverty, and political disenfranchisement all contribute to poor black hooliganism. For that matter, go to a white ghetto and the white kids will jump you too, it's almost as bad, all the conditions are the same except the added race humiliation for black people. All these people crying about black crime are perpetuating the problem.

For that matter, half the black crime statistics circulating around turn out to be bogus. When white people are killed, it's overwhelmingly by other white people.

>All these people crying about black crime are perpetuating the problem.

So telling the truth is s a problem?
I don’t understand the lefts problem with hard talks about real problems, just sweep it under the rug and ignore it.

22 Trillion in debt
Trump, republicucks and Pelosi democrats all vote
to increase the whole we are in by spending 200 M to the military

AOC and Justice Democrats are THE ONLY ONES to vote NO

Why did the cuckservatives vote to expand the deficit?

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SUue, but at a lesser rate than black on black. What you are knowingly failing to acknowledge is overall, blacks, 13% of the population, commit 52% of all homicides. Out of those, 96% are committed by black men. So, 50% of ALL homicide is committed by 6% of the population. That is the facts.

I just told you the truth. I told you the background on what's going on.
>Race and class humiliation, poverty, and political disenfranchisement all contribute to poor black hooliganism.
First of all, black crime statistics are often hugely exaggerated, it's deliberate fear-mongering. Second, Italian and Irish immigrants used to be viewed the same way people view blacks today. Conditions improved, and so did the Italians and Irish. Conditions have never improved for black people, so black people have never improved.

Actually, it's gotten worse. Race humiliation has grown. Black when black repression was worse, there was a unified black community, they were able to give each other dignity. As that's dissolved, as society has atomized under consumer capitalism, and the civil rights cause has ceased to serve as a unifying force among black people, black racial dignity has declined.

Everyone's dignity has declined, but it hits those hardest who had the least dignity to begin with.

>Italian
>looked white

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The old breed whites here still point out I'm Italian. And the line "Italians dont cou t" for whites is used. Meh, 2 generations of immigrants worked their assessment off so I could get an education and make 120k. Doesn't bother me and my little bambinos.

Nah
Race war instead

japan's doing just fine almost 75 years later

The only hard truth is that racist legislators and judges created laws that specifically discriminate against people of color. Disproportionate crime rate? Maybe that's because black people are stopped by police more often for being black. Maybe it's because black people are arrested by police just for being black. Blacks are blamed for crimes and sentenced even if there is no evidence showing they're guilty. Rocky Meyers is currently on death row for a crime that he did not commit - the physical evidence and witnesses point to the murderer being a white man who had family connections with local politicians. Yet the judge decided Rocky, a black man, should be put to death for it.

Yeah those are great points.
Slaves actually work for nothing.

But since robots will actually do the labor - we should start mass murdering minorities and immigrants anyways.
Less traffic.

it's mostly black on black crime, and much of it is gang related. It all ties back to broader socioeconomic problems affecting the black community.

USA has a big line of credit so don't worry

The world will end in 12 years because of global warming. Debt doesn't matter.

Apparently you haven't read the Mueller report.

HA HA! Scoreboard

Fuck off. And, remember hispanics are counted as "white" in these statistics.

ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/tables/table-43

Project much, queer?

SHUT IT DOWN! THE GOYIM KNOW!

>IF YOU COMBINE THE WEALTH OF ALL BILLIONAIRES IN THE US YOU'D HAVE $2.5 TRILLION
>IF YOU EXPROPRIATED ALL THEIR MONEY YOU'D HAVE ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET FOR 8 MONTHS
But the problem is clearly rich people ..

...

Nice b8. The left doesn't lurk here. Quit trolling

Yeah man, 2012 will be weird but I'm ready

*tips fedora

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Well I'm leaving this shithole of a country in September, so fuck it, let's burn it down

LUL KONY ONLY 12 YEARS LEFT

the black community literally has piles of money and tons of advanatages thrown at them to try to help them help themselves in lifting themselves out of poverty, but they only accept those that are literally free handouts that require no work and/or effort of any type whatsoever

Not blaming Obama for everything.

Just for stuff that he added too, continued or created.

Like purposefully moving immigrants to red states, small communities in the country to flip solid neighborhoods for 'diversity'.

Blame him for Obamacare, Syria & Libyan conflicts.

Blame him for making these worse in North Korea and with Russia.

Fuck him, fuck his weakening of the military & fuck him for failing to act in Ben Ghazi. That's on him.

You were really quick to steer this conversation towards black cock. Makes one think

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>implying the left can meme

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Public schools didn't exist in 1790. The public school system was invented by Prussia in the late 1800's to brainwash the population into serving the state in wars.

Wells, rivers, lakes, etc. were where water was taken from. It is likely we wouldn't live in such densely populated areas, and society would be much better off. The pollution, depression, anxiety, etc. felt by people who live in major metro areas due to public infrastructure.

Public highways we're really a thing until the 1950's and were created for the military industrial complex. They are currently worn down, and have encouraged cars and pollution, and living in concentrated populations. Many states have started privatizing their highways due to the extreme costs associated with maintaining them.

Public parks are terrible places with high crime, drug use etc. Additionally, this is an inefficient use of land, which could have been used more productively, but government laws prevented it.

The affordable care act (Obamacare) resulted in reducing the supply of health services, and increasing the demand, resulting in a combination of increased prices and rationing of care. All of the data shows health outcomes are about the same/ slightly worse (depending on the type of condition/ trauma event), and more expensive since it's implementation.

>only gets mad at citizens benefiting from welfare
>doesnt blink an eye when its billions to businesses instead

The ultimate cuck. Kys

>22 TRILLION IN DEBT BECAUSE OF TAX CUTS FOR THE MEGARICH
Afraid your going to have to return that government cheese Cletus.

bell curve.
What about those with over 500 mil? What about those with over 100 mil? Lots more of them.

but even that's missing the point. It's a matter of rate. And it's about the extended effects of having all that money sitting around doing nothing but earning interest, getting loaned out to other rich people to pay for business risks that earn more money for more rich people, who earn more interest, all while the poor get poorer and have less disposable income to drive our consumer economy.

That money would drive a lot more growth and production, which would in turn generate a lot more tax revenue, if it were distributed across more consumers.

Strawmen are easy to destroy huh?

Based card carrying NRA member

you.. are really bad at math.

What's interesting to me is that so many conservatives defend the economic status quo. I can't imagine a stance more cucked than that. Let's be serious for a second. Your wages are garbage. Your job is garbage. Your healthcare is garbage. Your rent is too high. Your boss laughs at you. Your government is run by corporations. Your life is a meaningless consumerist joke at your own expense.

Wealthy elites rule the planet, and you're ok with that. I can't fathom that level of apathy. Imagine being satisfied with that. The goal of leftism is to topple that power structure, to restore government of the people, for the people, by the people. The conservative movement is run by and for the rich, they use race, gender, and sexuality to divide the working class and neutralize your political will.

defending some dumb bitch who will only hurt small business owners and entrepreneurs with her tax hikes and not going after businesses that are lining her pockets LUL JUST LIBERAL THINGS

Don’t all you cunts have anything better to do than bitch about politics?
>He asked realizing he’s talking to a bunch of basement dwelling faggots
Left or right, two sides of the same coin. We’re all being fucked by these politicians and you’re being complacent in that.

>How does money circulation work?

Even if the tax rate was 100% it wouldn't matter. Read a book about taxes. Or at least watch a video. The data shows the state can't really tax more than roughly 15% of GDP. If they grossly increase statutory rates, then exceptions/ loopholes etc. get written into law. Ultimately the state has a spending problem. It would run a deficient if it collected 100% of rich people's incomes. See an example below of an economist, using math (oh no) to explain why:

learnliberty.org/videos/will-higher-tax-rates-balance-budget/

liberalism and right, maybe. Leftists and liberals are not the same thing. Leftists aren't watching Alec Baldwin prance around in a blonde wig. Leftists are the ones who actually want to change the material situation of the working class.

You're right, let us let Walmart and other large corporations abuse the government while pushing it's influences into smaller communities driving those small businesses out of business.

>learnliberty.org
opinion discarded

AOC really triggers you faggots hard.

This is a great thing.

Public schools were a hot button issue in the 1790s though, lots of colonial and post colonial cities had been experimenting with public education for years. A good example is the public school that was constructed in Philadelphia in the 1750s founded in part by no other than Been Franklin

Do you have any idea how the ecomony will SOAR if everybody had money to spend?

What do rich people do with their money?

1. Save it
> It gets used by banks and investment firms to allocate the capital more effectively, either through paid-in-capital or loans to economic entities
> They invest it
It gets used by them to allocate the capital more effectively, either through paid-in-capital or loans to economic entities/ their own businesses
>They spend it
People produce products and services for those individuals and obtain the capital and continue to use it
> The government takes it
It gets used to pay bureaucrats to do less productive work than what they would do in the private sector (IE drop bombs on foreign countries)

Watch video and come up with an effective argument to defeat it you dummy.

Federally required/ mandated school systems weren't until the late 1800's.

Interest and time, your business skills are lacking so you may want to spit out all that billionare jizz you been drinking.
Ps, it won't make you a billionare.

thebalance.com/interest-on-the-national-debt-4119024

>thinks the megarich keep their money in US banks
PROTIP: The megarich spend their money on lifestyle shit. But after about 100 mill you've bought all the lifestyle shit you can use in 10 lifetimes. So the rest goes to seeking rents and buying existing cashflows, or it just sits there. No improvement to the economy.

RECLAIM OUR BIRTHRIGHT ONE PIXEL AT A TIME

JOIN YOUR BROTHERS ON THE WEST CORNER OF THE SWASTIKA AND PUSH BACK THE REDS

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Somebody doesn't know what ROE is.

>Public parks are horrible places, high crime etc.
Way to paint the Mona Lisa with a fucking paint roller there bud. Public parks are incredibly important to the mental health of people who live in said cities. There have been many studies to show that people with greater access to Urban greenspaces flourish compared to those who have less access. They are important meeting places, where events, open air markets festivals, etc. Acan be held.
That being said we did do them rather poorly in the US. in comparison to places like Munich that has the Isar Corridor, or Vancouver that has that peninsula park, or xalapa that has some ancient Aztec structure on a hill overgrown by jungle in the middle of the city.

I'd say the bigger waste of space are the numerous parking lots particularly associated with strip malls, which are all too prevalent because our society was too retarded to recognize the value of public transport when we were building our cities. If you want to delve deeper into the subject I'd recommend starting with the book "Geography of Nowhere"

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Close some tabs you nigger.

But I don't want to eat with bartenders, I want them to serve me. I need to feel better about myself by crushing the working class.

Also, many economic entities are in the US, and other place. Investing in foreign countries is fine as well. It increases their standard of living. Making geographic boundaries less meaningful in the application of capital results in making societies more equal over time. Preventing that investment in certain areas (like via high taxes) results in less investment, capital, and ultimately less productive work. IE if you want people to invest in the US, lower the tax burden to zero.

no u

Or you could just live in a less densely populated area.

Oh yeah. Well watch this video and come up with an effective argument to defeat it you tard gargler.

youtube.com/watch?v=OLpeX4RRo28

But I need to monitor all those threads simultaneously ;_;

A brilliant argument.

Notice the meme doesn't say federally required/mandated schools. Anyway you better get out of bed or you'll be late for your federally required/mandated sex change

*Posts stupid picture, knows nothing*

You're preaching to the choir there bud I live in Humboldt county. I'm just arguing that public parks aren't a waste of space and are vital to a conducive urban structure.

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I'm really confused, it's like the poster has no memory before Obama. Almost like they are a child.

>ROE
th'fuq does that have to do with your mom's crack addiction?

keep posting memes and getting her recognition up, it is the only way she will have a shot at the presidency. I'm really glad yall have picked her as a target.

trump is running up that debt to line the pockets of the rich. I want to pay taxes for regular old welfare, not fancy corporate welfare.

That money wouldn't exist if it were distributed among more people, that money is in stocks and equity, it's only valuable because rich people hoard them, do you know what happens when lots of people try to cash out on their stocks at the same time? Use your brain don't be a socialist...

>thinks rentiers improve the standard of living

>How does money circulation work?

Banks loan rich people's money to businesses. True. Those businesses use it to expand their commercial infrastructure. True. Some businesses fail, but enough succeed that the bank earns money. The bank then pay money back to the rich people - the richer you are, the more money the bank gives you. True. The rich people profit from the banks, the banks profit from the loanees, the loanees profits from the consumer.

Do you see what this is? It's an enormous funnel. The wealth gap grows. The consumer base gets poorer, the middle class shrivels up, disposable income shrinks. People buy their first homes in their forties instead of their twenties. Double-income households today are worse-off than single-income households used to be. The base of the economy is hollowed out.

When you hollow out the base of the economy, you get less tax revenue from it. This is the hidden cost of having all these rich people.

The only reasonable post you've made.

Ahh because taxing people properly and taking all of their money are the same

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Yeah I'm sure the government would do extremely good business with that money and not squander billions bombing sheepfuckers in bumfuck nowhere and paying for gibs, that would make them earn a lot of interest...

Or we could keep doing what got us 22 trillion in debt.

By the way learn the difference between debt and deficit.

Wops are white and Sicilians were fucked by niggers.

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>taxing properly
To pay for niggers welfare, million dollar bombs to drop on random sandniggers and bail out failing banks...

Statists be like..

>support them and get them jobs
fucking moron
that's what the demonrats have done for decades, the only result is the destruction of the black community

what a facetious argument.

First of all, that money still exists. It exists as a promise, but it exists. It has value. It can be spent and traded. It can change hands.
Withdrawing it all at once sends us back to 1929, but who's talking about that? Maintain it at dynamic equilibrium like we always have.
We had a stock market in the 1950s when wealth inequality was much less. You can fuck right off.

So your saying let's do the GND and double the rate at which we get there? I don't see how that's a recipe for success given the price tag.

No I'm saying it took years of the rich no paying their taxes to create this problem. Just like it took years of interest on the debt to create it. Time and interest, we dug a huge hole and we can't fill it. It doesn't mean you shouldnt take the shovel away and slowly fill the hole back up ovet a few decades. The problem took 4 decades to create.. How the fuck can you compare what the rich people have at this moment it makes no sense.

>upper class anti-racist
kys

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Ahh because helping the people and blowing stuff up are equally bad.

What was the Great Society faggot? We tried and it doesn't work. What else do you propose we do, because while niggers had to deal with racism in the 60's, at least they were able to take care of themselves back then.

you cant fix a libturd

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The left and they're obsession with cock sucking.

ITT: Kids not old enough to remember when working class people in the US could afford a house, a decent car, a family, and maybe even a small boat.

We are a consumer economy. That means we need consumers. One rich man is not going to buy ten thousand iPhone plans. We need ten thousand people who can afford iPhone plans. You can only hollow out the consumer base so much. Rich people CAN'T afford to finance a nation all on their own, we need everyone chipping in and participating meaningfully in the economy. It's that or revolt.

So you think that lower class blacks are inferior?

Jesus Christ the left is so goddamn racist and they never even listen to themselves talk. Half the time blacks can’t do anything without a white hand giving it to them and the other half of the time they’re superior to whites.

Then there’s this fuckin guy/gal/xer that just hates poor people and evidently especially poor BLACK people.

The right and their short-term memories.

average nigger american IQ: 85
average white american IQ: 105
you're a fucking moron hovering around 85

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LETS SCREAM FALSE PROPAGANDA BECAUSE A BROWN WOMAN SCARES ME

saged

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>No I'm saying it took years of the rich no paying their taxes to create this problem.
Woah! Wait a minute. When have the rich not paid taxes? Where do you think most of the taxes come from?

Daily reminder that neither party is fiscally responsible.

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My memory is just fine. The left have been posting the same pics for the past 2 years. Nothing short term about it, when that seems to be the only arrow in your quiver.

That was said back in 1985. And here we sit arguing like a bunch of children and mostly over trivial matter. We really are done. Finished. And we deserve it.

...

>remember that time when warren buffet said he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary?

LETS GET TRIGGERED BY OBVIOUS TROLL THREAD BECAUSE IT GIVES US A CHANCHE TO SCREECH ABOUT
>MUH RACISMS!!!!!!

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Lol shut your up boomer

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I could give a fuck what color she is. She's a dingbat that the left seems to love and you faggots get all triggered when her special brand of stupid is pointed out. Scared of her? Nah, faggot, I love that bitch.

jew lie

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And the leftists want to solve all this by increasing the government and spending tenfold.

>Blame him for Obamacare,
he literally stole it from this guy, who also literally destroyed the republican party starting in the 1990s. it's all a big scam. a dictatorship pretending to be a republic sold to retards as a democracy

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So does the right. What's your point?

The left loves her because working people are increasingly fucked and neither Republicans nor establishment Democrats could care less.

Just gonna jump in here. Exactly the opposite of what he said. Learn how to have an honest argument dickface

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>I just told you the truth. I told you the background on what's going on.
no, you just stated your belief
you're confusing made up bs and truth
you make up bs to support your ideology and call it truth
that's not how reality works, bucko

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>getting blown in the Oval Office by an intern when you’re the most powerful man in the world isn’t rape
>#meetoo #believewomen #patriarchy
The left and their double standards.

BUT SHE’S BROWN YOU RACIST!!!!!!

And that was proof of what? Warren Buffet is an investor. Believe me, he pays more in taxes than she does, it's just not directly. The man doesn't have a pay check.

Greece may not be able to pay denbts, but at least it not 22 gorillion :DDD

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>just gonna jump in here
>adds nothing
>argument amounts to “no you”
>ad hominem
Kek.

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Let me ask you a serious question. Who else is going to correct the wealth distribution? Are the rich going to magically start paying you more? We saw what the rich would do without government intervention, way back in the gilded age. Child labor, zero minimum wage, triangle shirtwaist, no health and safety standards, and so on. We know how capitalism turns out without intervention. The rich win. We go back to a form of feudalism. They still want that, look at Amazon, look at Walmart. Are you a masochist?

your feelings do not replace reality

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I want to tap this ass

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You realize that investment income is taxed less than earned income, right? Also, Warren Buffett does get a pay check, he's the CEO.

>22 TRILLION IN DEBT
Capitalism Works !!

So why does mega successful capitalist buffet think its unjust that the poor pay a higher percentage of their money for tax, where as a lowlife wannabe suck up to the rich like you think its great?

>The left loves her because working people are increasingly fucked
Bullshit. The far lefts "recipe" for helping the poor, seems to be identity politics and regressive taxation. Just look at California where I live. The poor are getting poorer over here, while the rich are getting richer. Don't confuse the ideas of rich limousine liberals, who want to control society and "save the environment" with actually helping to poor. That's a fucking ridiculous statement.

>waaaah got ad hominemed waaaaaah waaah
I didn't no u you I just told you your argument was bullshit because all you did was mischaracterize his, so his still stands, and you is just patronizing wankeru

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>thinking our "debt" means fuckall
we will never pay off our national debt, and there's literally no reason to.

>far left
>identity politics and regressive taxation

lol, America is so fucked.

I bet you're a valley cuck

None of this is true. You're a liar. Go be a fucking moron elsewhere.

Where do you feel safer at 3am? Harlem or the mostly white suburbs?

>identity politics and regressive taxation
I mean, thats been the GOPs whole platform since 1964 right?

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>where do you feel safer? The fucking ghetto, or significantly richer and less dense suburbs?

Lol

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Reee

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No. You really need to get out in the world. Warren Buffett owns Berkshire Hathaway. He's not the CEO, he's the owner. Warren Buffett only pays himself $100,000. The entire company as a whole pays more in taxes and the companies he invest in pay taxes as well. It's not quite as simple as you think it is.

>Where do you feel safer at 3am? Harlem or the mostly white suburbs?

Harlem IS mostly white nowadays you idiot lol.

HE'LL YEAH BROTHER DAMN LIBRULS ARE RUINING ARE CUNTRY1!1!!!

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1/3 of all taxes comes from the 1 percent, they also take in 20 percent of the gross income. So what this highlights is 2 things. They do pay a lot in taxes in comparison to the 99 percent, but that's only because they are stealing from their workers. If they paid their workers fairly, their workers would hit the top marginal tax rates and the numbers would adjust. Since they are paid so little, how can you expect them to pay a higher percentage of taxes?

>”no you”
>you made no argument
>”NO YOU!!!!”
>*post unrelated meme*

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Because Warren Buffet is pulling the wool over your eyes, and you are so wedded to your ideology, that you suck it up without questioning it. Warren Buffet pays himself $100,000 a year.

investopedia.com/ask/answers/020915/what-warren-buffetts-annual-salary-berkshire-hathaway.asp

It's not as simple as you think it is.

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I'm not bothering reading all that. You have something to say, you say it to me.

Stay cucked, old kid

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Warren Buffett is literally the Chairman and CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, so you're simply wrong user. The companies he is invested in certainly pay taxes (though even then corporations typically pay less tax than individuals for various reasons), but that doesn't change the fact that the actual income he receives from them is taxed less.

Type more words

Until the left co opted it and double downed. And you got your dates wrong. Christian conservatives didn't become a thing until the late seventies.

You sure you're not a socialist OP, cause she's living in your head rent free

At least it's new. It's not very funny, but it's new. I'll give you that.

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They don't like it when you use their memes against them.

wew leftists. here's your bingo

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I have something to say. If I said it to you, it would be those posts. It would be that long. Would you like me to copy and paste?

New like the debt ceiling and deficit increase while orange nigger as president. He prefers cutting taxes on rich then actually fixing the economy.

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>I want the rich to pay less in taxes because they pull the wool over your eyes
Nigga u dum

liberalism is not leftism.

But it fixed many billionaire problems by making them billionaires. You see they were just a billionare before, now there is an s at the end, problem fixed.

If Warren Buffett is paying himself only $100,000 a year, then he's getting taxed at the highest rate in the highest tax bracket. His company has to have employees and are subject to payroll and unemployment taxes. And state taxes in whatever state they do business in. So right off the bat they're paying a significant amount in taxes. The thing the left seems to getting they're panties in a bunch about, is taxes on the amount of revenue. Believe me, Corporations get taxed plenty in other ways. Besides, anyone can be a corporation. I'm an S-Corp myself.

boring

>1964
>the civil rights act is passed by democrats
>southern states rush to the republican party
>the GOP spends the next 60 years running on "duh gubmint is taking your money and giving it to niggers"
>taxes go way down
>The rich get richer and working class standards of living plummet
>welcome to the new guilded age
Did you fail 8th grade civics? Look up the meanings of regressive tax and progressive tax dumbfuck.

So two of your posts the entirely miss the point, was your rebuttal? Identity politics and regressive taxation. Let's try to focus on that.

An S corp is a pass through entity that pays no taxes dumbass

The rich actually pay more under his tax plan, because they're not able to write off as much. You are aware of that aren't you?

Meh. Both are just teh same. Pure nutjobs that live in fantasy land.

Not a rebuttal. Go back to school nigger.

>don't use my words against me
No. Eat your own stupidity brainlet.

>If Warren Buffett is paying himself only $100,000 a year, then he's getting taxed at the highest rate in the highest tax bracket.
I wasn't arguing that he wasn't, though of course the rates for his earned income and his investment income are not the same. My point there was literally just that he does in fact get a paycheck (i.e. that you were wrong).
>So right off the bat they're paying a significant amount in taxes.
What you're missing is all of the various loopholes that corporations can and do use to lower their effective tax rates. The rate that they would pay on paper and the rate that they actually pay in practice are not the same.
>I'm an S-Corp myself.
I'm a LLC man myself, but whatever pass-through entity floats your boat.

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Lol who told this Fox News? A actual rich person? Na dude they don’t

I mean, "your" dipshit of an Administration isn't exactly lowing the debt. But keep up with your 1337 photoshop skillz /pol/tard.

That wouldn't be civics you dumb little shit. That would be history. Civil rights act is passed, and black communities start they're slow death march to becoming niggers. Meanwhile those same southern states that you said became Republican, were still a sea of blue in '76. We still have progressive taxation you nit wit. Nothing's changed. The regressive taxation is the "user fees" Bill Clinton coined, that has been a staple of every state legislature and is more prevalent in blue states. Why don't you pick up a history book and not from someone like Howard Zinn.

liberalism is not leftism
liberals are the idpol, "let's slightly change capitalism" people
leftists want workers to share the profits, want workplace democracy, and in general want meaningful economic justice for the working class

also you confused regressive tax and progressive tax

Right now, Walmart can open a new store in a small town, sell goods at a loss until all the local businesses are forced to close, then immediately jack up prices again. When an economic entity has enough money, it can rig the game in its favor. This works against smaller businesses, against individuals, and against workers (i.e. you). Liberals still fundamentally support this paradigm.

Funny, cause I still pay taxes. I can just write off more than the average person. You sure you know what an S-Corp is? Because it sounds like you just googled it and took the first definition you could find, without actually knowing what it means.

>my penis is bigger than yours
>no, my penis is bigger than yours
This is what you're going for, right?

communities, not individuals. "Individuals" and "workers" is redundant.

>"Niggers" were invented in 1964
>Marginal tax rates on the rich dropped from 91% in to 38% (15% on cap gains) but nothing has changed
>dropping taxes on the rich is progressive
Write more stupid shit, its hilarious.

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I told you to leave my penis alone faggert.

So your S Corp isn't a pass through entity and you pay taxes at the corporate level genius?

>My point there was literally just that he does in fact get a paycheck (i.e. that you were wrong).
Technically it's a paycheck, but when the owner of the company is writing the check, it isn't quite the same. But if you need that star in your cap, then fine.
>What you're missing is all of the various loopholes that corporations can and do use to lower their effective tax rates.
Which loopholes. I always here about these loopholes, yet no one seems to know what they are. Loopholes are just politi-speak for acting like they're doing something. They're are no loopholes.
>I'm a LLC man myself, but whatever pass-through entity floats your boat.
You keep saying pass-through entity as if that means something. All an LLC or S-Corp is, is a business. But I'm sure you call your business a pass through entity every day.

>All an LLC or S-Corp is, is a business
Wrong brainstem. They are a particular form of business that limit individual liability. But they have no effect on your taxes.

I don't watch Fox News, But because you seem to live under a rock, here's a couple of links to educate you.

wsj.com/articles/top-20-of-americans-will-pay-87-of-income-tax-1523007001

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-14/top-3-of-u-s-taxpayers-paid-majority-of-income-taxes-in-2016

>also you confused regressive tax and progressive tax
Nope. A gas tax is a regressive tax. A food tax is a regressive tax. A percentage of your annual income that is taxed at a rate according to your income is progressive tax. Until you get that, the rest of your post is just nonsense

But true.

>top-20-of-americans-will-pay-87-of-income-tax
TFW the top 20% of earners make 95% of the income. And the more you make the lower your effective tax rate.

The current national debt is $22 trillion.

>when the owner of the company is writing the check, it isn't quite the same
You know that Berkshire Hathaway is a publicly traded corporation, right? It has many owners, with Buffett being one of them. Even in the case there the corporation does have a single owner and you're just doing it for legal reasons, it is essentially the same.
>Which loopholes
lmgtfy.com/?q=corporate tax loopholes
>You keep saying pass-through entity as if that means something.
I've said it exactly once, and of course it means something. If you set up a S-Corp without even looking into whether you should elect to be treated as a pass-through entity or not, then you really didn't do your homework.
>All an LLC or S-Corp is, is a business
Obviously. So are sole proprietorships and c-corporations, but there are different rules and taxes regarding each one.

90% of the higher educated chinese and indian workforce does not have the skills or knowledge required to work in a American or European company, concerning specifically science, coding and engineering.

>Its true because I said so
Kek'd

Suppose the black intelligence bell curve really does fall lower on the spectrum. Suppose also that it's nature rather than nurture.

There would still be a bell curve. So why do so many whites treat all black people the same no matter where on that bell curve they might appear to fall? When you seem dumb, you're a dumb black. When you seem smart, you're "uppity."

And why do you tolerate dumb whites? Why are dumb whites included in the white ethnostatist dreams of modern conservatives?

Wasted money if you ask me, the average 4chin republitard is all onboard with the CONservative talking points while the enlightened liberals will not fall for this low effort bait

Excuse me sir, this is Windows calling. You have problem with your PC. Please download our randsomware.

Yes. Niggers were invented in 1964. Just because they were called niggers before that doesn't mean they were. You see, that was actual racism. The no dad's in the household, not graduating high school and living in prisons part happened after that.

We have progressive taxation in this country you dipshit, otherwise we'd have a flat tax. You do know what progressive taxation is, don't you?

Nice selfie, BTW.

No it's a business. A pass through entity is what I leave in the toilet in the mornings.

>Niggers were invented in 1964
>Imma prove it by inventing my own history and definition of nigger
>91% marginal tax rate is just as progressive as 15%
Keep going numbnuts. This is comedy gold.

An LLC is a business and the reason I'm an S-corp is for taxation purposes on said business. And yes, both do limit individual liability. So what?

I'm not a trumper but I can't hate him , sure I hate the way he acts and am annoyed by his coddling of Isreal but I can't hate him because of one simple reason. No one wanted him to be president, and I know that sounds funny but think about it, the media didn't the intelligence agencies didn't the democrats didn't the republicans certainly didn't both the Kochs and Soros both funneled millions to prevent him from becoming president. You know who the only people who actually wanted him to be president are the people who voted for him, and when does that shit ever happen?

>Until you get that
Pulled a lil' switcheroo, though, didn't you?
>the rest of your post is just nonsense
Point out the nonsense:
>Right now, Walmart can open a new store in a small town, sell goods at a loss until all the local businesses are forced to close, then immediately jack up prices again. When an economic entity has enough money, it can rig the game in its favor. This works against smaller businesses, against communities, and against workers (i.e. you). Liberals still fundamentally support this paradigm.

>And the more you make the lower your effective tax rate.
So your saying everyone should suffer equally? Don't agree. If the top earners are generating more revenue, then why should they be punished more for being industrious? I'd rather have upward mobility then be punished for hard work.

So not just a business, right. See, you've learned something.

>Paying tax on your earning is punishment, but only for the rich
>People who work harder get paid more.
You ate the whole capitalism cow pie didn't you?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_mathematicians

>You know that Berkshire Hathaway is a publicly traded corporation, right? It has many owners, with Buffett being one of them.
He owns the most shares, so technically he owns the company. The WWE is a publicly traded company but Vince owns that bitch. Same thing.

>lmgtfy.com/?q=corporate tax loopholes
Not impressed. If you're going to make an argument, then provide examples.

>If you set up a S-Corp without even looking into whether you should elect to be treated as a pass-through entity or not, then you really didn't do your homework.
An S-Corp is a business. You don't need to make it any more complicated than that. I do it for tax purposes.

>Obviously. So are sole proprietorships and c-corporations, but there are different rules and taxes regarding each one.
I've said as much.

>the GOP is responsible for Ocasio-Cortez's idea that will get us more in debt
fucking brainlet

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Progressive tax rate definition.

A progressive tax is a tax that imposes a lower tax rate on low-income earners compared to those with a higher income, making it based on the taxpayer's ability to pay. That means it takes a larger percentage from high-income earners than it does from low-income individuals.

That's how taxes are in the US. But keep doubling down on stupid by all means.

I also don't need to invent history. Blacks have gotten progessively worse since the Civil Rights act. Why else would liberals be whining about something that they thought they fixed over 50 years ago. Was it just niggers being niggers?

>He owns the most shares, so technically he owns the company
No, technically it just means that he owns the most shares. Anyone who owns even one share is a partial owner of the company.
>Not impressed.
Not my problem.
>You don't need to make it any more complicated than that.
You actually make it more complicated by not treating it as a pass-through entity, because you have extra tax work to do.
>I've said as much.
Yet you don't seem to grasp what one of those major differences is, which is tax treatment.

>91% marginal tax rate is just as progressive as 15%

>>Right now, Walmart can open a new store in a small town, sell goods at a loss until all the local businesses are forced to close, then immediately jack up prices again. When an economic entity has enough money, it can rig the game in its favor. This works against smaller businesses, against communities, and against workers (i.e. you). Liberals still fundamentally support this paradigm.
I'm a small business owner, so no, I'm my own worker. Wallmart is governed by the laws of supply and demand like everyone else, so if you have a point, it's lost on me.

How can a business be not just a business? Is this all just a semantics fight for you?

No. I just chose a long time ago, not to be a part of the rat race. Is anybody stopping you from earning more money? Is anyone stopping you from starting your own business? I'm not eating the capitalism pie, so much as I'm choosing not to be oppressed by phantom oppressors.

>kek'd

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>No, technically it just means that he owns the most shares. Anyone who owns even one share is a partial owner of the company.
We're just splitting hairs here. A majority stake holder is the one calling the shots in a publicly traded corporation.
>Not my problem.
Then don't bring stupid into an otherwise intelligent debate.
>You actually make it more complicated by not treating it as a pass-through entity, because you have extra tax work to do.
How I'm I doing that? How does me calling my business, "my business" and not treating it as a pass through entity, change the tax work I do? Answer. It doesn't.
>Yet you don't seem to grasp what one of those major differences is, which is tax treatment.
I do acknowledge that I do it for taxes. When have I said otherwise?

You seem unable or unwilling to understand that a progressive tax rate is not the same as a progressive ideology. Kek. Libs really do think they own the term progressive. You must still be in college, or working some menial job.

Nah

>implying political memes are ever funny

>A majority stake holder is the one calling the shots in a publicly traded corporation.
Within the bounds of the corporate bylaws, which minority stakeholders will make sure include provisions to protect their interests.
>Then don't bring stupid into an otherwise intelligent debate.
We are far too late for that.
>change the tax work I do?
Because you have to pay taxes twice you dunce, once at the corporate level and then again on the personal level. Having a pass-through structure in no way prevents you from calling your business "your business", it just simplifies your taxes.
>When have I said otherwise?
Serious question time: do you know what a pass-through entity is?

This is the promise of socialism:
> everyone happy productive working for the greater good
> anyone who doesn't want to work or can't doesn't need to
> everyone gets everything they need to be productive and happy
> nothing interrupts this

This is the reality of socialism:
> psychopaths promise all that free shit above
> useful idiots believe it
> doubters don't belive it
> most don't give a shit and try to ignore politics
> socialism comes. psychopaths take control. the murders begin.
> useful idiots and doubters are killed in the first wave
> psychopaths want everything of value
> anyone who had what the psychopaths wanted are murdered in the second wave
> psychopaths now have everything nice
> everyone else lives in abject poverty as literal slaves to the psychopaths
> this socialism lasts for a few years
> communism comes
> all that above shit? it gets worse
> the poor psychopaths do fucked-up shit to try to get into the ruling class
> innocent people get murdered and tortured in the power games
> this is the third wave of murders
> starvation comes. riots. revolution.
> "why did we try socialism AGAIN? it never works."
> "that wasn't real socialism."

No socialist/communist (they're really the same type of person) will ever be convinced by rational arguments. They are useful idiots who are true believers, or psychopaths who'll never admit the truth.

How is that lost on you? I just... ok, look. In that scenario, Walmart temporarily sells its goods at a loss. Meaning, negative profit. Losing money. It does this to put local stores out of business. Then, after the local stores close, Walmart RAISES its prices again. Walmart has thousands of huge stores, this is one of the richest companies on the planet, so it can afford to sell at a loss longer than the local stores can.

Walmart operates like a predatory monopoly. It shutters small businesses, takes over small town economies, and uses the money to enrich a relatively small group of people.

Yes. Our taxes are progressive. They used to be more progressive. In the mathematical sense. Meaning numerically. Less flat. More progressive. Are you trolling or do you seriously not understand this? I'm a different user, I've been watching you two go back and forth for a while and I'm just dumbfounded.

>positive change is impossible

>Within the bounds of the corporate bylaws, which minority stakeholders will make sure include provisions to protect their interests.
They could make provisions, but honestly, no one really challenges what Buffett does. Most people invest in his company because he's the one calling the shots. An investment firm is a whole different animal than the Amazon or Apple types.

>We are far too late for that.
Fine. I'll start just responding with memes from now on.

>Having a pass-through structure in no way prevents you from calling your business "your business", it just simplifies your taxes.
Fine. Call it a pass through structure and I will call myself my own employee and we will have happiness on the internets.

>Serious question time: do you know what a pass-through entity is?
Yes. But it's funny how my accountant never used those terms when setting up my S-Corp. This is just an argument in semantics without any real purpose. We are both saying essentially the same thing and frankly it's getting boring. I'm having arguments in this thread about what a progressive tax rate is for fuck sake. Not the type of argument to have on a Sunday morning. Just want to get drunk now and watch Wrestlemania.

Or you could look at it another way. Walmart brings lower prices to consumers that want lower prices. Walmart kills some small business. But definitely not the niche style of small business that cater to their clients differently. Wallmart then decides to raise prices, but then it's now competing with Amazon and Target. Wallmart realizes it can't raise prices and hope to compete with them, so it keeps prices where they're at.

I remember how Tower Records and Barnes & Noble were going to kill the small business. Look how that turned out. Believe it or not, they're is still a very big market, for boutique style shops that bring a more personable buying experience.

Has Home Depot or Lowes killed off the local nurseries? I think you guys are sometimes chasing the boogeyman.

>Meaning numerically. Less flat. More progressive. Are you trolling or do you seriously not understand this?
I understand it just fine. The real question, is do you? You do realize that 44% of people pay no federal income taxes.

marketwatch.com/story/81-million-americans-wont-pay-any-federal-income-taxes-this-year-heres-why-2018-04-16

If that isn't progressive, then what is?

first off white people are on welfare and foodstamps and government assistance. so enough with that stupid ass white racist dumb shit you white racist devils are talking about. fucking retarded fools who can't do research.

You're a nigger.

that don't mean shit you fucking idiot. get overselve white people are not better than nobody you sick minded fuck headed retard

the prices aren't that much lower. Walmart TEMPORARILY sells at a loss, then raises prices again. Third time saying this. Walmart does it because their normal prices AREN'T low enough to put local stores out of business. Selling AT A LOSS, TEMPORARILY, to undercut local businesses until they close, then RAISING the prices again.

Now consider the consequences of this.

When it's harder to run a store, (and "boutique" generally refers to a more expensive store, which requires a wealthier clientele, which does not exist everywhere), what does that mean? It means an important avenue of upward mobility has been restricted. It means more people are poor. More wealth is concentrated in fewer hands.

That's ignoring the less tangible effects. What does it do to the culture and morale in these small towns? What does it do to the pride of a place? The opioid epidemic didn't come out of nowhere. Walk into a Walmart, these are miserable places. It's not just hollowing out the small business economy, it's hollowing out American culture.

He did already

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I'm using Walmart as an allegory. The entire US economy works like this.

Rents relative to income have gone up 64% since the 1960s. People are buying their first homes in their forties rather than their twenties. Two-income households today have less disposable income than one-income households used to. Each year Americans work harder for less money, and must spend more to survive. The working class is in a vice, and the left - not liberals, not establishment Democrats, the actual Left - are the only ones who seem to give a shit.

You suck Jeff Bezos' dick because defending the status quo is hardwired into the mammalian brain. Not even just mammals. Birds, fish, lizards, nearly everything. Having a stable pecking order reduces deaths and injuries due to infighting. Watch animals break up fights between other animals. We're hardwired to side with power. So we defend the rich sociopaths who run our society and turn against each other instead.

Make me nigger