why arent you voting for bernie sanders
Why arent you voting for bernie sanders
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I’m voting for joe Biden. Fuck liberal women.
Why would I vote for someone who advocates a system that doesn't work?
I am and everyone I know is
Because taxes and monopolies are a form of stealing.
Because even if I did, the Democratic Party elections are rig so that he loses.
Probably the same reason I don’t go around asking people to punch me in the dick.
because he is a stupid communist. he has no idea how economies work.
Because, even if I agreed with his policies, why would I vote for someone who is spineless and already allowed the party he was running under to cheat him out of the nomination?
Going to be time for NO REFUNDS: round 2.
you realize joe biden is a liberal himself.i had enough of that creepy piece of shit when you niggers elected obama
and trump "my father gave me a small loan of a million dollars"knows how economies work?
Obama was the best president of all time
this is how you know america is stupid and hopeless
He's up next in 2024. Thanks to the left they don't care who dies in the name of bringing full equality for all.
he's a sell out now, so he's no better than any of the other trash picks that we have.
Because fuck communism and fuck socialism and fuck you, that's why.
democrats are in alot better shape then republicans though.at least they didnt destroy their party with a billionare idiot from a democrat city
I know what you are trying to say.... but the guy has made and lost and made back a fuck ton since then. So yeah, he kind of has a pretty damn good idea on how a economy is supposed to work.
But to go back to what I believe your intent was.. most of the big time politicians you see come from very fucking wealthy families too. The only difference is they only increase their value if they take the kick backs and not from actual business sense.
Too dumb to realize it’s possibly to disagree with both.
No, I disagree, not on the republican part but on the democratic party, they are still fucking lost as they were when they gave Hillary the nomination. I have not seen one improvement since then with how they operate.
Because im not a RACIST , MISOGYNIST cis-white male.
>filed for bankruptcy more then once
>his supporters believe he has a good idea on how a economy is supposed to work
im glad we have trump supporters as an example of why stupid people shouldnt be allowed to vote
Stop lying, its Yea Forums, you are a fucking white male.
I could use a UBI. It's weird because I'm employed and useful.
Democrats destroyed their party and any support it had by being absolutely bat-shit crazy and unable to have a conversation since the day the presidential election results were announced.
Fuck no they aren't. They have no one to run.
They've dug themselves into a hole where running any older person (especially a man) is bad because they've created the precedent that it's okay to dig through a person's entire life and criticize their past actions by applying modern standards. Can't run anyone like that because it will piss the progressive SJW crowds off and running a younger, more socialist, candidate would be a non-starter for the middle-ground older Democrats. My prediction would be 2020 is a reelection for Trump, regardless who the Democrats win, and then the Democrats collapse their own party because the two sides of it just cannot cooperate and would rather have two parties. Then the Republican Party will split further down the line as the more middle-ground there begin to butt heads with the nationalist elements because once their unified opponent is gone then there will be less holding them together as well. A period of American politics where it becomes more than just red vs blue, Republican vs Democrat- thank fuck.
because the fix is in joe will be the candidate
>Look at these companies that went bankrupt!
>Just ignore the far more numerous ones which haven't!
How easy it would be if you could convince everyone to only see the limited things you want them too see, unfortunately for you that is not how it works.
democrats have plenty of people to run.all republicans have is.......donald trump.who after losing his own party the house majority,he threw a tantrum and shut the goverment down
any republicans with common sense has given up on donald trump.you want to see the consequences of electing a republican who supports gun control? just watch as cadet bone spurs loses 2020
Claiming bankruptcy at the right time can save a lot of businesses when, ya know, you're running an empire.
there's no use arguing with a trump supporter.not only are you to fucking stupid to bother with,but you'll just shout fake news at anything that makes your president look bad
maybe in 2020,you'll realize why you lost and why over half your own party hates trump to
LATINX TYVM
Too old, too tired, too many "controversies". My guess is they will run Warren with Beto as VP. And then lose horrendously.
>>filed for bankruptcy more then once
That's exactly my point. Has won and lost a bunch and is still financially successful. I can't spell it out for you but yeah that shows he understands the economy. I didn't say he was not a risk taker but to continuously bounce back like that shows competency when it comes to business and yes the economy.
nice try and I notice you refused to acknowledge the second part of my post.
Take a break from twitter and look at reality for a bit.
OK, let me help you spell "white man".
There, now you got it.
Republitards too stupid to realize all their blue collar jobs are going to be replaced by automation and those manufacturing jobs are never coming back.
>i cant spell it out for you
no shit,everybody knows trump supporters are dumb as hell.go back to crying about mexicans and calling everything fake news.there's a reason you idiots lost house majority and are gonna lose in 2020 also
>replaced by automatic
>china owns all those companies
They're not retard. China owns you.
Shut your liberal mouth cringe master. All Obama did was force us to pay for medical insurance, avoid Isreal because he is a Muslim sand nigger disguised as a black man, and take his tranny wife to dinner across the country. Obama did nothing of value.
because there is nothing stopping the rich from leaving the country if they dont like being overly taxed like how bernies wants it to be
why would anyone want to start a business in america in the first place.its a country of lazy socialists and the proof is what politicians they want running the country
>hurr durr obama
im waiting for the day a trumptard gets into an argument and doesnt bring up the media,obama or hillary clinton.i doubt it'll ever happen
and at least his wife was a nigger like he was.not some european whore like melania trump
like they did in the majority of last century when the top marginal rates were above even what AOC proposed?
I can't help but notice you ignoring my post to go on wild tangents. Its ok, I understand you are angry because you have no means of actually debating the points given.
And please go on with your tantrums about trump supporters, you are not going to make me get upset and it just pretty much proves to everyone else reading this thread that the Democratic party still has not fixed their problems.
Buh bye now.
You moron. This was a response to “obama was the best president ever”.
Keep wondering why you lost...
You realize you're wrong about everything right?
Absolutely everything you say that's caused by republicans are actually caused by the left.
Tell me more
what do you want to know? are you actually looking for knowledge or are you just a troll?
Did I say I was a big trump supporter? No I did not but I have to say what he is doing with the crimals in our country is ten times better than what Obama ever did. And I didn't mention anything about that treasonist dumb bitch Hillary but any idiot who voted for her must love Terrorists.
Is Trump perfect? Hell no. I disagree with some of the things he pulled (bumpstock ban, caving on the wall/barrier, the whole original idea that Muslims could be banned from the US, some other stuff) Still, unless he does something totally fucking stupid like: start a war in Venezuela or Iran, pass another AWB, or totally tank the economy, then I'll vote for him again. I'm disappointed that Trump has become more establishment when he ran as an outsider but I'd still take him over others. I wish he would be a little more specific and consistent with his policies instead of vaguely going "the best ever, believe me." but the results are what matters in the end.
The whole "muh Russia" shit has failed and all further attempts to revive it (or the new "muh obstruction" cries) will fail. I think that alone will make more people support Trump when they can see what the Dems have been trying to do since 2016; invalidate an election just because they lost. If the Dems keep pushing endless investigations, the Green New Deal, and Socialism, then they will lose 100% because they refuse to learn any lessons from their defeats. Their biggest problem is they think them losing means the system is either unfair (and needs to be changed so they cannot lose again) or was illegally influenced. There is no self-awareness of reflection and it will bite them in the ass.
Hillary cheated him, he knows this, continues to shill for her.
cause im a leaf. also i hate commies
I'm sure the party of women studies professionals who stay in debt for a lifetime are the majority of the democratic party.
After dems went far left, got me too'ed, shilled russiagate and were btfo, and are now at each others throats, they have no chance against the cheeto man
I don't like communism.
I agree his wife is useless but what I can't stand about Obama's wife is she uses her fame as the presidents wife like a celebrity. Both her and Obama put their inputs all the time on shit they shouldn't have even commented on. I'm not saying that any other president or family of hasn't done that but they did it on pretty much every opportunity they had. His wife trully is a real Nigga but Obama wasn't. He should have never even been president. I still think his birth certificate was forged.
As much as i dislike the nigger he did an ok job and respect him more than i respect his party. But anyone could look good after bush jr
>thinks he's socialist, but isn't
>doesn't even know/understand his own economic policies
>too old
>irrelevant, to the right and left
>but not a moderate
>weak, can't be counted on in a conflict
>not good for trade, war, or preventing a war
>no one respects him-- sold out by his own party
>doesn't respect himself-- sold out to the party that fucked him over
>and the most important one of all: doesn't respect his voters-- he sold them and their contributions out to Hillary after she fucked his old wrinkled pooper
That's quite enough to convince me to never vote for him
simple, he is an idiot. If you think any of these shit stains, right or left are going to do anything to make your life better then you are deluded. They are only about putting money in their own pocket.
because socialism is for fucking idiots
once foreigner's realize america is a country of lazy socialist morons.the rest of the jobs that havent already moved to places like china and mexico will leave and you can enjoy the socialist utopia of starving to death and running out of basic things like toilet paper because this is what the left and most idiots in america want
Why do people like Obama? I really want to know. Can someone tell me something he did as president that made him worth while? I don't think anyone I've ever talked to has named something he did as president that benifited people.
>muslim sand nigger
as opposed to donald trump being a jewish cock sucker? id rather have a president that focus's on america.not some jewish ball washer like donald trump
Again you are under the impression that I'm a trump supporter. I don't care about the man either way. I really don't care about Isreal although that being said I do care about the US having allies in the middle east. Isreal is the most level headed over there. I could give 2 shits about them being Jewish.
Obama's only claim is that he was half black and the press had his back. If you look into what he actually did you would be pissed off. Fact of it is our presidents are empty suits. They ain't running shit. You have heard this before and I know it to be true, follow the money. You see something on the "news" ask yourself who makes money from this. Do not forget the long game.
Obama only became President because Seven of Nine from Star Trek and her ex-husband did some kinky stuff.
>Jeri Lynn Ryan is an American actress known for her role as the Borg, Seven of Nine on Star Trek: Voyager
>the actress met investment banker and future Republican political candidate Jack Ryan
>married on June 15, 1991, divorced on August 27, 1999
>When Jack Ryan's campaign for an open United States Senate seat in Illinois began in 2003, the Chicago Tribune newspaper and WLS-TV, the local ABC affiliate, sought to have his records released
>It was revealed that six years earlier, Jeri had accused Jack Ryan of asking her to perform sexual acts with him in public,[32] and in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris.[30][33] Jeri described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips, and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."
>the document disclosure led Jack to withdraw his candidacy;[36][37] his main opponent, Barack Obama, then won the 2004 United States Senate election in Illinois.
Without that Senate victory, Obama would have remained a name nobody knew and he never would have been able to run for President.
With crazy shit like this it's really not too hard to believe that a loud-mouthed TV billionaire (who lied his way to the top and succeeded because nobody ever called him out) could become President. Reality can be very strange sometimes.
Because there's no current election you stupid fuck. And I'd rather vote for an indian call center scammer than Bernie Sanders.
>focuses on america
You misspelled "fucks over america"
Taxation without representation is theft. If socialism is so good, why is he campaigning on a platform to restrict people's 2A rights? If his brand new system makes everybody rich and equal then the shouldn't be any more crime right? So why the police state? Because he's a fucking communist piece of shit who is 80 years old and won't be around to see the consequences of his actions. And he's a Jew.
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I know he was only half and the media ran with it. That is exactly why I asked why people like Obama. I hated everything he did as president. He was literally useless and just a slut for the corporations. He was fucking us in the ass and all the while people were screaming out that they loved him and it was purely out of blindness because he looked black and people didn't want to come off as racist.
So nearly all 1st world countries except USA has universal Healthcare, college for all, and more workers protections. But you claim it doesn't work. Try to avoid moving the goal post by claiming slippery slope, and fear mongering Venezuela.
>communist
No, he advocates for a social democracy like Norway and similar 1st world countries.
I wanted to, but with how he rolled over to Hillary in the last election, I can see how absolutely spineless the man is now. If he can't stand up to his rivals from his own party, how is he supposed to stand up to a foreign government? China and Russia would walk all over him, and let's not forget about Germany.
I agree that healthcare needs to be restructured in this country but full on socialism isn't the answer. When you cross the boarder on either side scripts are a 3rd of the cost. We need to abolish medical insureance and put a cap on how much they can charged based on an individuals income and not refuse anyone for any procedure they need to have that effects their health. Doctors charge so much because they know you can't afford it and hope you buy insurance so they can get the maximum income out of you. If people didn't pay it then they would be forced to charge only a reasonable amount. I refuse to buy medical insurance.
Because he lost, there was no point in splitting the party. He knew that if Hillary lost, trump was going to damage the country. He put the future of the country first and it shows immense courage and humility to support Clinton after.
>he's a sell out now
How has he sold out?
>He put the future of the country first and it shows immense courage and humility to support Clinton after.
It shows immense cuckoldry. He shouldn't have ran at all if he wasn't prepared to see it through or at least raise some challenge. The fact he's running again is an absolute joke.
I have a brain.
His real name is Bernald sandario and that's just fucked up
>having any faith left in anyone to fix the horribly broken USA
Alter or abolish. That's all we have left.
>but full on socialism isn't the answer
Luckily, not a single politician is suggesting full-on socialism. The only thing that anyone wants is just to adopt some of the policies that other successful countries have.
who can we elect that will do something about the costs of poverty like worse deals on everything
Leftist here, absolutely wrong. But he's better than a lot of the fuckers we've had.
Because he's a life loser and a retard
If this was true, than Hillary shouldn't have attacked his base. She cheated her way to the Democratic nomination. She knew it, he knew it, and when his base wasn't having it, she called them every name in the book.
>"Nobody who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty."
>believing $16/hr isn't poverty
>believing any job no matter how bullshit should be rewarded with full lifestyle wage because you choose to do it full time
>Luckily, not a single politician is suggesting full-on socialism.
AOC is full-on democratic socialist.
>adopt some of the policies that other successful countries have
Yeah, not socialist policies. Welfare. Which is not the same as socialism-- welfare only exists as a byproduct of capitalism and is the natural progression of a capitalist economy.
>nothing stopping the rich from leaving the country
You may fear this, but the laws can change. They can make the top marginal tax rate be 60 percent on all of their assets when they decide to renounce their citizenship. A billionare would then never renounce his citizenship because they would lose half their wealth.
>lose half your wealth
>lose all your wealth in a communist uprising
>die in a communist uprising
Or they could just set up a front holding company and transfer their assets overseas while they either live as an expat with no domestic income or be long gone by the time they file the paperwork.
>Take as much cash and valuables as possible
>Fly off to another nation
>Never return
Any policy that tries to trap people INSIDE of a country so they can be exploited, taxed, and otherwise oppressed is terrible
While those who are rich should be paying higher taxes, to say they should be taxed at 90% or whatever it is is absurd especially when the programs socialists want costs trillions and once they have exhausted and driven off those who are wealthy then they will turn their focus to those below and try to implement similar tax rates
Cause I'm voting Joe Rogan, you bitch
He’s a weak kneed jew who couldn’t even hold a stage from being overrun by BLM.
>believing any job no matter how bullshit should be rewarded
Yes if you hire someone for a full time job, its pay should be high enough to cover the rent of an apartment. In the 70s and 80s, minimum wage was enough to pay the rent on a 2 bedroom apartment.
Because im not Politically or Economically illiterate.
If you have to work 40 hours a week you're already living in poverty
2% of the population every 30 years dies after supporting losers like this.
Money laundering is not legal.
Most people think they are the one percent republican master race lol. Guess what you stupid fuck your are not. You dip shits will give away your money and suck the rich mans dick and think it’s cool.
What ever you say pedobear.
>trap people INSIDE
I have no sympathy for the billionare that is renouncing his citizenship so he can avoid paying taxes.
>Universal Healthcare
Results in Extensive waiting periods for procedures which could be completed in less time, also less to no results seen in less competitive markets for medical innovation (hence why most medical innovations are the results of privately funded medical ventures done in private clinical settings), It also results in a hike in taxes usually on the middle class, as well as more ER trips being misused by people who legitimately do not need them (such as simple muscle trauma, ie a muscle strain which is treated simply with rest and off the counter pain medication).
>College
Would result in tax hikes, as well as frivolous spending on behalf of students who given the chance to be equipped with any degree, will go for a worthless degree such as Gender Studies or African Studies. Degrees of higher value would become slowly worth less than what they we’re valued before due to Demand-Supply curves, and the nature of an average or appropriate estimation of worth, ie, a reduction in wages for existing professionals due to the simplicity of acquiring employment (see Teachers).
>Workers Protections
Would result in frivolous civil litigation which would hamper small business ventures to the benefit of larger businesses who would not feel a thing, given the mass capital they have acquired already. It would also result in less labor being put in, given businesses would lay off employees they deem a liability or who they simply cannot pay, assuming wage hikes are included in your proposal. Also nations which you reference which likely include Norway and Sweden, as well as Denmark and Finland have some of the lowest worker protection laws as well as no mandatory minimum wage and instead created pathways for legal unionization and for those unions to discuss payment with their respective industries and businesses, hence being more Neoliberal and in-turn capitalistic.
Ie, Social Democracy /= Democratic Socialism.
Ie, you’re autistic.
This user is correct and too smart for Yea Forums
Because ya boi Yang is gonna take it anyway
My grandmother was left to die in a cold hospital corridor because the staff were too busy dealing with drunks/drug addicts
Yeah, universal healthcare works so well
He fooled us once.
When Burning sandle supporters Bring up Norway before they realize that norway is a fucking Hedge fund. Not to mention norway jas dutch disease something bad.
The Scandinavian economeys dont work in a north american setting you can justvsay look at them and provide no context on how they got there.
because the working class are scum who just want socialism to steal money from the rich.
however don't get me wrong that I'm a shill just like tucker carlson type neocons who want to create jewish monopolies where the rich remain rich threw goverment assistance.
but its the law supply and demand their is a over saturation of people who have no skills so no shit even if you work 40 hours dumb shit you will never compared to specialize work.
but i will not also ignore that becoming a specialist is also monopolized by government regulations keeping the majority out and the few in. salon permits being an easy example but this also to who can and can't own land.
who and who isn't allowed to be a doctor even tho those people have the skills. you need a license from a colledge that has a monopoly on who it allows to become a doctor. because that colledge is goverment certified and subsidized.
so the Question is Why aren't you a Anarcho Capitalist
Nothing AoC suggests is socialism. Just because it leans more towards social than capital based does not make it 'full socialism', which has never worked; the policies being suggested HAVE worked, are working, and WOULD work especially in a country as rich as America.
I'm a green card holder and can't vote.
Of all time? Absolutely not. In the lifetime of most voters? Unequivocally yes.
There is a reason why Trump was handed a recovering country, which was tracking ahead of other first world countries after 2008, and had added millions of jobs, and climbed above its starting point despite the worst economic downturn in most people's lives.
>Obama cuts taxes to fix a specific problem in the short term: OMG Obama is bankrupting America he's the WORST
t.republicunts
>Trump gives massive long term tax cuts to the wealthy, along with cuts to the rest for a limited time in response to NO crisis: Trump is a genius! I'm sure THIS won't trash our national debt even worse and over a shorter period than Obama!
>t.also republicunts
I will vote for whoever runs against trump. Fuck that liar.
Trump has never filed for bankruptcy himself you fucking turd. Filing for bankruptcy with a business that has failed is a completely different story. It's as if goofy liberals don't actually read the facts of the situation... oh wait... they don't.
>He knows
Or
>He hires people who know because daddy gave him money
Given his ability to string together coherent sentences (lacking) and his ability to use accurate data (literally non-existent "billions and billions")I think it is much more likely that he had people on staff to tell him when to cut and run.
jokes on you I work 60 hours a week and live in poverty
Because I don't vote for old fools who remind me of my grandfather. (Literally the only reason semi-intelligent people would ever vote for Bernie Sanders. Idiots would vote for him because they actually believe he will make everything free LOL)
There's no election.
You need to move out of China and get away from the sweatshops, then. In my state, minimum wage is $11.10 an hour, and that is because the cost of living is slightly above the national average. A decent 1 bedroom apartment where I live is $750 a month. If you worked 60 hours a week, you're making almost 35k a year, which is well above the poverty line.
Corrupt sleeze bag
Assets are not as easy to move as you seem to think, especially physical assets like buildings.
They won't leave because their means to earn are still in America and even if they get taxed at a 70% top bracket they still stand to earn more by staying than by running away, because it's a MARGINAL tax rate.
I swear half of all Trumptards and republicunts think that AOC wants to take 70c of every $ everyone earns or makes...
why doesn't he say "nobody should be living in poverty" instead of of "nobody who works 40h a week should be living in poverty".
so poverty basicly is ok for anyone not working and/or working up to 39h/week?
>implying republicans didn't do worse with Obama
For those unwilling to put in the effort to thrive, they have no right to. If you aren't working full time, you aren't making the effort.
If you're working 40 hours or more, you shouldn't be in poverty, because you're putting in the effort. Poverty is for the lazy.
Which is rich, coming from a guy who didn't have his first job until he was 40.
>Thing that isn't true
Gottem
Taxation is theft. Extermination is the only option when dealing with the jew and their untermensch race traitor pawns.
You really expect ANYONE to believe that his FIRST JOB EVER was as a mayor?
Try harder with the fake news. Sanders has been a preschool teacher, a researcher for Vermont local government and a carpenter.
i can't do more than 30/h a week. so it's ok for me to live in poverty?
look, i know it's easy for you guys to talk tough here. but if you suffer from two strokes like i do it changes views.
Because I like to live, and would rather not die. But hey, I don't have a problem if others want to commit suicide, just dont' drag us down with you. Why do you have to vote in someone who will kill you when you could do it yourself?
No one who works 40 hours IS living in poverty. Minimum wage ensures that.
They don’t care about you, they are poisoned and rabid.
So you have a disability. For you there should be support. An ABLE BODIED person putting in the effort should be trying to work full time and saving for an education to better their station. You should be doing what YOU can and support for disabilities should be there to prop you up to a fair point, so you should be at the same level as a 40er at 30 hrs.
This isn't rocket science.
lol, you just made the most foolish comment I’ve read here in weeks.
Hi bumpstock faggot! Is this your thread?
>The richest nation on earth supporting its people would be suicide.
So you're not living in poverty in NY if you get minimum, does that mean you are rich if you live in Alabama?
If you were given a million you would turn into two million in debt. You still have to know how to run a business.
Hi bumpstock fag
but it is rocket science for you guys. where do you draw the line? is 30h ok with a disability? is 20h ok. what if you can do just 10h?
even now i basicly just survive. and what do you think happens to me at the age of 50 or 60 when things get even worse. when I can't drive to work anymore? etc etc
there is only ONE acceptable view on this matter. NOBODY should live in poverty. period.
Hi bumpstock faggot!
Hey bumpstock faggot! Make my pit bull threads Lately?
Poverty for working people is a Jewish invention.
Study the origins of usury.
Long ago people who worked hard did just fine.
Bernie is a false flag.
He appeals to the despair of the working man who has already been enslaved by the Jewish bankers.
The real trick of the Zionists is Communism.
To destroy the spirit of the decent working man.
To make him a child of the State.
When every man is perfectly capable of running his own house as his natural instincts tell him.
>Thinks disability benefits should be static and universal and not based specifically on the disability.
Still not rocket science. If you hit 50 and your doctor says "now, in your condition you absolute cannot work more than 20 hours" than you should work 20 hours and disability should cover the other half.
Nobody SHOULD be in poverty, that's true, but it should be their responsibility to do what they can to get out of it, support should only be in place for those who can't do as much as others: the disabled, single parents; and laws on minimum wage should reflect that 40 hours of work or the equivalent with support should place you ABOVE the poverty line.
Oh, shoosh. Your brain is full of poison.
Bumpstock faggot spottedThis guy doesn’t know about what it is you do.
Neither does this one.
These are all you
I get down to my comment here and you’re it in the thread anymore. So what you get the thread started, get the flames stoked and take off?
Never took Economics 101
Enjoy your police, you fucking roodypoo
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because i'm not a kike or a communist
>Every man is perfectly capable.
You haven't been following my conversation with
have you? Hard work is not always enough especially since businesses can do what they like within the bounds of the law when the labour market is saturated. There must be change within the laws to reflect that ideology that hard work should equal the means to run one's house, because when 40 hours of work at the minimum wage (which is more and more of the share of available jobs) means too little money to eat, sleep in shelter and stay warm without relying on others then your statement "every man is perfectly capable of running his own house as his natural instincts tell him" rings false.
And you do user, esp compared to this asshole, who has only spent decades in a career which deals with the subject specifically. Congratulations on your wrong opinion, armchair champion!
Thew goal of Lenin socialism was communism.
Socialism exissted as a word and a paradigm before the authors of Communism were even born.
You're an ignorant retard to have either made that stupidity, or to have seen it and thought that it had merit and was worth saving.
Notice how the Bern Victim that’s been shilling his garbage still refuses to look at the points brought up in this post, and instead prances on doing appeals to emotion instead of providing legitimate reasoning for his position, such as consistency or fact.
Just in case you’re reading Bern Victim, give a proper rebuttal to this post:
>Look, women did this!
>Ignore the post celebrating the opening of the bridge with its design and construction team, all male.
I think you referenced the wrong post...that one is saying Bernie never took Economics 101...You high bro?
You seem to have a very desperate need to be validated.
Your reflexes weren't fast enough, you couldn't just catch it...
>Lenin didn't invent the distinction between socialism and communism despite the two men who popularized the terms both using them interchangeably, for decades.
Lenin imagined socialism as communism lite, they were synonyms. Leninism is neither socialism nor communism, Marxism is both.
regulate and tax the fuck out of highly profitable corporations
let individuals do whatever they want as long as nobody is harmed
pretty simple really
why would I vote for a marxist?
Commie Scum
McaFee 2020
Sorry, did reality disappoint you and turn out not to prove that incompetent women built a failing bridge when instead it was corporate corner-cutting by a bunch of men doing what corporations do best?
Hand off my medicare socialist!
The issue at hand is the following:
Low-requirement employment, such as employment in a fast food restaurant, or at a supermarket, should be viewed as entry-level forms of employment. This should not be viewed as a means of employment which will secure enough income to maintain a family. Moreover, having children while employed in entry-level work is both irresponsible and illogical, and anyone that participates in this, has effectively sealed their own fate. It is not the burden of a businesses to pay it’s workers for labour that in hindsight is worth less than that which they are being payed (If you factor supply and demand curves for appropriate wage, the work they supply is easily replaceable and low entry workers have a high replacement rate so businesses demand matches that supply and factors out a reasonable income). Generally speaking Minimum wage is moronic, based on the very fact that wages, like value is not a static figure and to demand the market bend to a static concept is like telling water not to be wet, it’s fundementally impossible, and instead leads to businesses having to circumvent cost and civil litigation by firing employees or reducing hours worked.
Generally speaking Social Darwinism applies in this situation. Undeniably those who sought to make decisions which benefit themselves and their future offspring deserve to reap the benefits that they have sowed, but those who chose to act frivolously with that they we’re afforded, or chose not to be innovative to make a change to the benefit of others and themselves, they should not be afforded capital which they did not earn.
Because voting in an illegitimate system is immoral.
And no, i was explicitly agreeing with the person and chiming in on the idea that the Bern Bot in here is autistic, and that OP is autistic.
First, nice demonic trips.
>Universal healthcare results in
More cost effective medicine for all as demonstrated by life expectancy and care quality analyses of multiple countries with and without it. Having universal healthcare does not, in fact, remove private healthcare, just gives those who cannot afford it an option. Innovation would not suffer, as it has not in countries with universal healthcare.
>College
Degrees of higher value would continue to have the value they did before. More people getting gender studies degrees will have no impact on the value of engineering degrees, because each degree would have it's own demand-supply curve.
>Workers Protections
Have never resulted in frivolous civil litigation in countries that have it, and given the sheer amount of abuse larger corporations already engage in they wouldn't 'not feel a thing'. And you REALLY don't know anything about Norway's legal protections for workers.
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Darwinism of any kind doesn't apply in situations where controls can be applied. For example, dog breeding is not Darwinistic as it is not naturally selective. Since we cannot allow business to be 'naturally' selective because laissez-faire capitalism has always failed and will always fail, that means social Darwinism is moot.
If an employer is obligated to pay EVERY employee a living wage (for a single person, mind you, not a family living wage as you keep bringing up) then replacing them with the next generation of workers is irrelevant and costly as hiring is a process that costs money. Even at the entry level a person working full time hours should not have to rely on others to survive, as they do with the current minimum. Yes having children in entry level work is irresponsible, but I never brought up families or children, this is a straw man.
It is absolutely the burden of a business to pay their workers for services rendered, including upkeep of the self. If a wage can't feed, shelter and keep a single person warm then the business is not paying the labour its value, and the system is doomed to collapse.
Wages should be raised to meet at minimum a single person, in a single bed apartment, with sufficient heating and food, and this should NOT be static.
Also 'should not be afforded capital they did not earn' similarly applies to the majority of the wealth in America, which is inherited. Inheritance tax should always be the highest tax.
look how cool you are pansy do something original for once in ur life
There is at least one person running for president who is a time traveler. He/she will speak the truth but nobody will believe him/her.
nobody will believe you cuz fuckin batty. howz about that user?
because I'm straight and white
If something sounds too good to be true, it is.
How should I vote?
I've never been in the US
Whadda ya mean OP? Of course I'm voting for him. I just wish he was more like henry a. wallace.
because even if I'm working 40 hours a week and living in poverty, Bernie Sanders will say I don't know what it's like to be poor.
The election is a year and a half away. We'll see if he even lives that long.
>works only 40 hours a week to survive
>thinks hes poor
>when you try and fight the brainwashing but it's too strong
>nearly all 1st world countries except USA has universal Healthcare, college for all, and more workers protections
Focus on America
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Because at the end he is a Jew
im not from the land of tard politics
>muh socialism
Does it even matter what name you give these policies or what makes them work? No one's claiming the USA should become communist or give up on capitalism.
If you take healthcare as an example, the USA spend the most in the world per capita yet somehow don't cover everyone. In fact, the USA spend twice as much per capita adjusted to wealth as most western countries with a solid healthcare system. Only a retarded nigger would look at this and think that it's the other countries that have a problem, or that somehow things can't be improved.
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You took the bait. Great job!
because he does not represent the democrats.
because i don't want a parasitic class of people to grow exponentially and i hate government
Does anyone on B vote? I doubt it.
Americans. You’re all so fucking thick you can’t see it
His supporters don't work four hours a week ... Jesus.
Because he is not a person of color.
because I value my freedom.
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In my early days I learned to work smarter, not harder, Bernster.
So yes, some of you are exactly where you need to be.
cause I live in Northern Ireland and we have no government
Cause I like not starving to death.
Hes too old.. So is Trump.............
he is older than Trump
Awww, little republitard crying about all the remaining Obamacare boooohooo. Hahaha, your retarded fuels the left stupid little faggoty fuck. :D lmAOO!
This should be the mandate. Unfit for office. On so many counts, for so many candidates.
Best of a bad bunch?
Without Obama, Trump would not be elected.
Is this some false flag shit, or are people really this retarded? Either way, WOOSH!
I'm not into the cuck fetish. Sorry.
because my taxes go down and my paycheck go up .... I do not give a shit about lazy people
he can't even put a sentence together
So much this. The only Den talking semi rational right now is Biden. He's not jumping in the socialism train. Yeah he's lying about not embracing it, but that's how dems win elections.
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I am.
Biden 2020!
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Because all he wants to do is turn the clock back and make it the 60s again. Taxing corporations 65% . This day an age would have them all leave the country. Shipping is cheap and easy America cannot and will not be just the middle man again. That's what got us into this problem to begain with. Money is people now thanks to Disney. So now we are slaves to the largest of corporations. So don't bite the hand that feeds you. Just sit back in this shit hole and wait to die like the rest of us blue collard Americans.
Actually Bernie wants to do with private health plans. He's said that multiple times.
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His stance on firearms and he's just sucking the DNC's cock now peddling their shit.
YLYL? That was a good one. Thank you.
Never gets old. Haha!
Nobody with a cell phone is living in poverty ...... what a cuck
How the GOP has been able to convince their base that tax cuts for the rich will benefit them will always be a mystery to me. And then to go even a step further and blame it on the poor and the immigrants. Truly astounding.
Image related. Seriously. Look at it.
Look at a list of the top ten best hospitals in the world and then cross reference that with your healthcare for all countries . Then ask yourself if you want everyone to have shit healthcare or if you want options that include not shit healthcare . This is really what it comes down to . Do you want to be told there is no treatment go home and die or that there is but your liberal arts degree can’t afford it ....
I hear Norway has a very strong military and doesn’t rely on the support of other nations for its self defense