Is America's role in WW2 exagerrated?

They would have lost without us and our economy would not have recovered without them

>Supplied UK
>Supplied Soviet Union
>Still had production capacity and logistics capacity to then supply itself
>Without supply the UK and USSR would have fallen easily
>Handles Imperial Japan with buggar all assistance from it's European allies
>Fights Nips on the Aleutian islands, multiple simultaneous at sea and island engagements across the pacific
>US forces steam-roll through multiple regions in Europe

Not really, much of their combat success in Europe was timed with Axis forces reaching their breaking point; but without US supplies, logistics and forces the Allies in yurop would have been spanked

This.

>>Handles Imperial Japan with buggar all assistance from it's European allies

Britain had more troops from the Empire fighting the Japs than fucking Ameriturdland.

Proving OP correct /thread

Except that doesn't matter
The Pacific was fought at sea over islands so you could ultimately reach the enemies nation
Britain did fuck all towards the only meaningful goal

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Damn yeah I remember learning about the Brits dropping two nukes on the Japs. God save the Queen.

Well US joining absolutely tipped the scales. Germany fucked up with Russia, cuz retards, japan fucked up with america.

We were QUITE content with sitting on our ashes for another few years until it might have been impossible to break axis momentum, but both the germans and the japs fucked themselves hard

Its ridiculous to not realize america effectively 'won' the war, but america also was many years fresher, never at any real risk of total war (and not having the war on your soil reeeaaally makes things easier, considering all effort can go to offense vs needing considerable defensive reserves), and let's be fer real, when america gets stirred up it's like a goddamn beehive, really a dumb country to piss off.

We cant do a damn thing in unison until someone NOT american fucks with us, but by God does the US whip into shape when it's time to retaliate lul

Their role in the war isnt exaggerated but it definitely gets an asterisk, but anyone who's not a goddamn retard already like, knows all this so...

This. We literally had to island hop to them. Constant beach landings ending in countless deaths, and we just kept fuckin going. I love being American.

>Handles Imperial Japan with buggar all assistance from it's European allies

Pretty much gifting you the bomb wasn't assistance?

sure as shit didn't end the war.*from what we're taught*

Ended the war, but like, when you wait to join into a fight until the end you usually win

yep you didn't throw that ad hom in because you were bitter.
nope
no way that happened

two years in
end of war
butthurt euro
yep checks out

way to stretch it mate

We didn't wait to hop in, we were dragged in after the Zimmerman telegram. The nation absolutely rejected the idea of joining the war, but they fucked around and got Schlapped

America tried to fight WW" by proxy as they prefer. Supplying other people with equipment, at profit, so they can do the dying. If Japan hadn't attacked Pearl Harbour they would never have come into the war. In fact if Japan hadn't fucked up Pearl Harbour and had gone in hard, they would now probably own the western seaboard, conceeded to them when America surrendered

no

In Europe, yes - more credit given than neccessary. America played a big role, but most people give credit to the surrender of Nazi Germany to Stalin (the Russians took Berlin), Chruchill (named the "Savior of Western Civilization"), and Montgomery (despite his failure in the Op Market Garden landings, Montgomery was a brilliant tactician and is responsible for the many British victories in North Africa and Italy). In Italy specifically however, Americas role in Operation Avalanche and Monte Cassino are substantial and forgotten.

In the Pacific, no - not enough is taught or said about the War in the Pacific, especially battles that are rarely mentioned, such as battles against the Japanese on American soil (Alaska) and some of the smaller roles of the Marines and Army units. Not to mention the operations in Burma and China and Formosa.

I wish Japan stayed isolated and kept growing without outside influence and two nuclear bombs being dropped on it, that would be really cool

Im American buddy, but idk what you know about like, fighting, but war is front loaded as far as stress goes, and orders of magnitude as far as attrition goes

American involvement tipped the war in to the allies , only an idiot doesn't think so. Still if we waited another year, shit another 6 months without the reactionary response to pearl harbor (and let the govt circle jerk another year or so) it woulda been too late, and American involvement wouldn't have meant dick

look up "Tube Alloys"

The entire Japanese Alaska campaign was a diversion, they had no intention of actually doing anything useful there

America bankrolled the Allies in WWII, and Pearl Harbor was the turning point of the war that put the final nail in the coffin for the Axis

With interest

I know, my point is that there is much less recognition and understanding of the Pacific War in comparison to what is often common knowledge about the European front. To answer OPs question, I'm saying that YES to a degree, but at the same time NO, because of what I see as a common lack of knowledge regarding the Pacific and the thousands of battles, dozens of conceptual combat units, new technology to strengthen an island hopping campaign which, just the concept alone, calls for massive amounts of logistical and strategic precision, and strong small-unit leadership as there were often multiple campaigns going on at once.

This also. Normandy was pretty important, just cuz us could supply a helluva lot of very fresh troops, and us definitely gave numbers and supplies but meh.

The Pacific was very much america, but it's not like we won easy. Pacific was awful and dirty and it wasnt anything close to a total victory lol. Us got REAL close to losing thru attrition

This though, is dead on

Woulda sat on our dicks and profiteered until eventually realizing how fucked we were, would have entered real late and wouldn't have been able to make up the ground

Japan kinda just like, showed its ass and taunted US instead of going all in, and instead of crippling the us in the Pacific just bloodied americas nose and pissed the us the fuck off lul. ALMOST as dumb as pissing off Russia lol

Then again, the allies could have potentially taken Europe without us involvement, and I would honestly imagine the japanese would have just taken some territory and sued for peace, with Europe too tired and not particularly invested enough to bother fighting japan, just let em have the eastern asian seaboard cuz why the fuck deal with them if Germany and Italy were done?

I mean, who the shit knows what would have happened in Europe. Germany was pretty deep into attrition, but so was the rest of Europe, I'd imagine it would have been a coin flip, while japan just raped and pillaged without really like... helping lul

Say us never got involved, axis OR allies win and japan just sorta stops, waits ten years and clobbers the west lol. That seems pretty likely too

Who cares. Alot of commies died and we take the glory hahahahahahha

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>instead of going all in

I don't think they could go all in with a good chance of winning since they didn't sunk any of the carriers meant to be at Pearl
If they had ditched their fantasy of battleship vs. battleship and dedicated everything to crushing USA's carriers then the US couldn't seriously defend anything; but nips were still occupied in china, korea etc and didn't have the logistics for a successful ground offensive on America before the US could rebound

Their goal was to rid the pacific of the allies so they could exploit the region to their own benefit

I dont get this graph. Top right has been saying this all along.

Hell yes. They neglect the fact that England started it and the Soviets won. Some Americans even claim "WW2 started in 1941". it's also claimed that every American tank was better than a British, when IRL British tanks heavily complemented them, either fighting alongside or clearing the way. Another thing to mention is how they generally neglect the Soviet involvement, who are the guys who steamrolled Germany straight back to Berlin. They build up the western front to be this big, climactic battle where all the Germans died when IRL 8/10 German Soldiers died on the eastern front. They also believe every German tank was a tiger/Panther/king tiger. IRL the majority were Panzer 4's, with Panzer 3's and Beutepanzers (captured tanks) also being frequent sites. Panthers and Tigers were quite rare.