More evidence all anchors from CNN are from clow college

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Find a new job? you know why you've got that right? a free market son

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I came here to check my fortune

I think I've misunderstood the premise of this April fool's gag

Stalinism is not socialism.

Stalinism promoted the escalation of class conflict, utilizing state violence to forcibly purge society of the bourgeoisie, whom Stalinist doctrine regarded as threats to the pursuit of the communist revolution. This policy resulted in substantial political violence and persecution of such people.[4] "Enemies" included not only bourgeois people, but also working-class people with counter-revolutionary sympathies.[5]

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Yeah tell that to millions of people you piece of shit

Minimum wage is a starter job, you're only supposed to work it two years max, get out there and put in the effort to further your career.

[fortune]

Your fortune: Better not tell you now

europe.unc.edu/iron-curtain/history/communism-karl-marx-to-joseph-stalin/

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Coin Flip: Heads

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Why do Americans think that anything short of rampant unregulated capitalism is some kind of communist ploy? People who work shitty jobs for shitty wages seem very happy to keep voting in politicians who’s only aim is to allow their bosses to make even more money, usually at the expense of Mr Shitwage.

What really is so bad about the idea of a mixed economy combining both systems? It’s been happening for decades in (civilized) Europe. Denmark or Norway are hardly Venezuelan level basket cases. People make good money, business makes good money, get treated fairly. Whole thing seems to work pretty well

Serious question, I’ve just never understood why this idea has never been popular in the US

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Can't do more than 1d6 at a time apparently

Lol is the like "Democratic Socialism" it's like totally different

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Cross:
god bless

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Geez...those are just words to you, aren't they? And a pre-programmed reaction.

Point blank I bet $$$ you don't even know what socialism is, or what capitalism is

>Imagine being this retarded
Minimum wage was instituted so that everyone was ensured a livable wage. It simply hasn't risen with the cost of living

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This has nothing to do with minimum wage. This is about letting companies legally exploit their workers into working for free.

Imagine being so retarded you think taking from growing businesses to pay bum drug addicts is going to help our economy

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>Low energy trolling
We've been graced by Jeb Bush, everyone!

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Minimum wage means minimal living. You can live off minimum wage, don't expect anything past that. Shoot for higher faggot.

Relentless retardation is a birth defect and can affect an entire nation that insists inbreeding is good.

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>Imagine being this retarded
With the current cost of living you cannot live on minimum wage, you will die of malnutrition unless you get financial support. You are sidestepping the Crux of the issue which is that the minimum wage was supposed to rise with the cost of living and has fallen far short

Oh you mean like in the middle east where they have arranged Marriages among first cousins?
theconversation.com/sexual-and-domestic-violence-the-hidden-reasons-why-mexican-women-flee-their-homes-65352

No, you can't. A full time minimum wage job won't give you the three essentials of life: food, warmth and shelter. You have to rely on others for those in some way or other if you get minimum wage.

Move out of the city, gotta scale down when ya spend all your money on Drugs and dildos

>Socialist nation
>Middle East
Pick one

Not even in the country. Try again. You always have to rely on others on minimum wage.

Either you're trolling or just bad at math. Probably both

sure it can, there are many places in the country that only charge 300-400$ it's easy and guess what if you don't like minimum wage get a new job... I suppose your limitations are the only thing stopping you... maybe cut the giant rats in your hair and take a shower

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I stated two different facts showing different races both of which are non white having issues with Incest relations buhahahajhahahhah In big numbers... How delicious it is to see faggots choke on the red pill when they've had so much practice deepthroating

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That leaves you with $600 per month for food, bills, and transportation. Have you moved out of mommy and daddy's yet?

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Electricity and water should not cost more than 250$ food and transportation 150 at most, and the funniest part about your argument is it's a free market and no body is forcing you to work at a job that only pays minimum wage.

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They're not, they're paying you. Just because you think you're worth more, you're not.

>there are many places

There are 13 cities in the country where it's possible to live off of minimum wage.

cnbc.com/2017/12/28/cities-where-you-can-live-off-minimum-wage.html

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That's 13 states with your statistics.. seems pretty like a good starting point eh? nah you would rather turn into Venezuela 2.0 youtube.com/watch?v=IYvcrddoxCM

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No actually workers are way more productive and are getting paid less and less

epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

I'm convinced that nobody can take right-wing economics seriously without sociopathically desiring to dominate others vicariously or an incapacity to process causality.

Also fun fact, he can get a job that pays more since it's a free market... who woulda thunk

Americans are, on average, sociopathic and jewish.

You mean like Stalin? with the school children?

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Nobody in the demsoc camp is arguing for full public ownership of the means of production. Stop memeing and learn something for once.

>Electricity and water cost $250
>Food for a month costs less than $150
Wew lad, way to out yourself as a highschooler. A bus pass will cost you $90 per month and utilities will cost $50-$100 unless your rent is $400 because the building has no insulation in which case utilities will be around $200. That leaves you $15 per day for food, clothing, and other necessities like toilet paper at most. It just doesn't work

Sociopaths? yet people illegally sneak into here to live around sociopaths? also Jews lol you're sounding like a Nazi... but what's new the lefties have always been fascists

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This is kind of my point. I’m not an expert in US politics but from what I’ve seen about AOC is hardly Leon Trotsky. If she were European she’d probably be a mainstream centre left politician. Yet people talk about her as though she’s aiming to bring back the Brabant and send anyone who disagrees to the gulag.

Yeah, paying people enough so it's possible to live in every city, will turn us into Venezuela.
The U.S. ranks around the 30th percentile in income inequality globally, meaning 70% of countries have a more equal income distribution.[7]

Socialism always leads to communism. And every leftists on the demo party has cheered for bernie since Hitlary's loss no matter how much you guys larp we don't forget we don't forgive

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So you think that an owner needs to pay you more because?

If you want to be paid more, find someone who's willing to pay you more you retard. They have no obligation to pay you beyond your agreement. This is exactly why you don't deserve beyond minimum wage, you're a fucking retard.

Then why is Europe not communist?

Most of that profit goes into building new infrastructure like the starbucks you soi boys sip at with your aids lips, and creates new jobs through innovation and drive to earn on the free market unlike socialism where that money is just taken from you and every one is equally poor youtube.com/watch?v=7oW-11Uip9U

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No my argument is that government shouldn't make it legal for a company to force a worker to work extra hours for free. You may think free labor is awesome, but I don't see why it should be legal.

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Because they're not socialist, lul they're only giving the hand outs to the mudslimes who rape their women.. also have you not een the yellow vest protests? prolly not considering you're spoon fed by vox and CNN

Don't agree to being salary then. If you're hourly, then they legally can't.

>I am proud to show I don't understand how party systems work by posting shit-tier memes

Yes, because that's where the money is.
You forgot to add "believes in child sexual abuse of infant boys as normal"

>t.jewish bot

So you think they should pay us less because they feel like it?
Are you a complete cuck or just shitposting?

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buhahaha according to the gay vox sprite the parties never switched and he uses politifact and snopes youtube.com/watch?v=-MiHIpInZSA

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>Because they're not socialist
Then AOC is not socialist, Bernie isn't a socialist. The policies that progressives advocate for like Healthcare for all and government sponsored education for all, isn't socialism. Thanks for agreeing, this thread can now be closed.

can i get uhhhhhhh
a like

Empathy isn't your thing

If you don't think you're being compensated fairly for the job that they're offering, don't accept it in the first place you stupid mother fucker. What right do you have to accept something then demand more because you feel like you deserve more?

Yeah except they are not European so where is the correlation?

>vox
Neoliberal shills
>politifact
Neoliberal shills
>snopes
Cucks
If it's not obvious to you that the parties have shifted in their support of various demographics over time, you simply haven't been paying attention.

What right do you have to be a jew?

Not when there's an easy fix to the situation.

>I DON'T LIKE X THING
Well don't agree to do X thing.
>WELL I DID IT ANYWAY, NOW I DESERVE MORE
No you don't
>IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!

lol watch the video I linked he breaks it down for 3 years olds

>Dislikes lefts
>Still wants socialism

You dense mother fucker.

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Gotta pay the bills. Incidentally, what is your job?

They are advocating for the very same social policies that European countries have.

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Such as?

>Crowder
Republican shill, rejected

>he thinks neoliberals are left-wing
Pretending to be retarded, or actually retarded?

So why do you think free labor for companies is a good thing?

Don't live beyond your means. Minimum wage is minimal life, if you want more than the basics keep climbing the career ladder.

My job is only around 30k, I've been taking night courses and will soon be finished with a bachelors degree and will be then making ~70k if I'm working in my respective field.

Raping you

Lol he lists all sources and criticizes the right more than he does the left... but he's a shill nice try buckaroo

>implying US intervention is merely a force of physics
It's afraid

My god, it's a walking meme, someone take a picture.

Venezuela is a dictatorship

Lul neo-liberals are lefties they all want open borders, baby murders, free healthcare so with the open border the sick can flood the hospitals and leave us with dying medical system known as the universal healthcare in Canada youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

>~70k if I'm working in my respective field
Big if and 70k is barely above median income. I make more than you delivering pizzas

How did the US intervene with Soviet Russia that caused the failure of socialism? please do tell me.

Does he write anything? I read much faster than I listen.
He's got 130 years of theory he's got to oppose though.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realigning_election

Lul that's what happens in socialist countries

Also the poverty line is 40% of your income and corresponds to minimum wage. Could you live on half your wages?

Here's a little exercise for you: Go to a KKK meeting and call anyone with a sheet on a Democrat and a Liberal and see how they react.

Wiki jajajja they're as biased as vox, google definition of fascism on wiki then look it up in the official Merriam-Webster dictionary used in oxyford and tell me they arent jajajaja... Hell I'll make it simple for you and get it for you but I'll leave it up to you to wiki it

1: often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality

So? Quit your bitching about you're upset that you're not paid enough then.

Instead how about you quit your bitching about taxes and we institute a UBI of $12,000

Here's a test go to a KKK meeting and call anyone there a right winger and see how it plays out, you guys are so fucking stupid you call Ben Shapiro a Nazi when he's an orthodox Jew funny jazz my dude

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Aside from outright and repeated sabotage, an arms race, and not selling grain to them post-famine for fair market value? Nothing that comes to mind.

>t.glownigger

>he thinks neoliberalism isn't right-wing
Can't tell if actually retarded or just USian, not that there's much of a difference on average

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Not quite as biased.
>using a dictionary as an authority
Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive.

Stop shilling this neoliberal jew

Name which incident specifically you're talking about, because if you're talking about the cold war that was in the 70's long after communism/socialism failed multiple times

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How about you stand on your own two legs and stop demanding others carry you?

BUAHAHHA 150 years of accumulated knowledge or some google executives description, the Merriam-Webster isnt a dictionary it is THE dictionary, oh don't forget he's a leftist liberal

Which side was waving the Confederate flag during the war?
Which side currently waves the Confederate flag?
I've yet to see a liberal flying the Confederate flag, user. It's always right wingers.

Aoc girl bad!

>the cold war that was in the '70s
5/8 made me reply

>I am 12 and what is an encyclopedia
You're not going to understand something by staring at a dictionary definition.
>liberal
McFucking kill yourself you baitlord

Besides, your side tends to perpetuate the Soros = Nazi meme. Little hypocritical of you, don't you think?

If you think she's good you maybe more dense than I thought... and that's saying a lot, youtube.com/watch?v=Vu7DQ5zxngM

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You clearly didn't come here for discussion. By the way, each homeless person costs taxpayers $50,000 per year so a UBI pays for itself four times over for each homeless person

When I say Liberal i am talking about the self prescribed liberals who virtue signal the only real liberals today are on the right.

How about you stop spouting catch phrases and actually think?

youtube.com/watch?v=W8Id0-Lsyr0
Our side perpetuates the truth that's bad?

When I say real Liberals I mean by definition

Big oil reserves
Operation freedom baby

>he thinks taxpayers "pay for" spending
Lern2macroecon.

And all of them need to be rounded up and gassed. Capitalism is literally cancer.

This thread is cancer and I hope cancer returns to its creator with the force of a thousand suns.
Also fuck america, their jewlords and their willfull submission to their jew dominators.

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Outside of the military-industrial driven deficit they do. You certainly can't deny that -12,000 and +50,000 add up to a net gain in tax revenue

And this is what cause the failure of Karl Marx's communism and Stalin's socialism? buhahahah you're too far down the rabbit hole you're losing grip of what you're arguing for, also notice Socialist Venezuela and where they are now youtube.com/watch?v=THPe3D69vJ0

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I am, that's why I'm bettering my life and not demanding everyone else does it for me like your faggot ass.

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Sanctions and siege warfare

A UBI benefits everyone because it allows for better economy mobility and eliminates most of poverty

The government's deficit = the non-government's assets. It's not a loan that must be paid back to someone (who? Pluto?). It's just a liability for accounting purposes, which is paid off through taxes. Government appropriations create money, taxes destroy it.
So, governments are never revenue-constrained. They can print money to stimulate economic activity and tax it back out of the private sector's hands when it's served its purpose.

>t.cuck

>t.CNN
Watch this instead of a bunch of ideological "muh liberty liberate muh oil" boomers:
youtube.com/watch?v=mbXqGiNlWWw

It doesn't actually improve the balance of power between worker and employer, though. A Job Guarantee would.

Talking Point USA shill located

I know you feel like CNN is helping your intelligence but it's really suffering considering you don't know what you're talking about and if you do specify where wither of your explinations was the cause of the fall of ANY of these socialist nations and I will say I was wrong and leave the thread.. INB4 I can but I wont 5 year ol' style

No thank you Steven Crowder gives you the facts and sources, he and Ben Shapiro are all I need to get my news.. I'm good on listening to some ginger who's accomplished nothing hate on something he knows nothing about and I know it's that before even watching it.. also I wont watch it. youtube.com/watch?v=THPe3D69vJ0

It takes a step towards it. It makes it so that survival is not entirely dependant on your employer

>I deserve money that I didn't earn
Whatever you say faggot.

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>he and Ben Shapiro are all I need to get my news

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Earning is a social construct and a social decision. Your private deal with someone else isn't something we consented to.

They link their sources sorry you're too dumb to read.

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>Earning is a social construct
So you're also a rapist.

That money is printed so it can disappear into the military-industrial complex. Governments are not revenue constrained, but companies exploit this through government contracts that require the periodic disposal of equipment and munitions. This is a large part of what drives the military budget up which is a large part of what drives the deficit

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You're still just chanting slogans. At double the tax rate the UBI benefits everyone under $60,000 with people at $30,000 having their taxes paid in full by the UBI. That's half of America

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I like to think the guy on the back is a Saudi Muslim using taqiyya to pretend like a Jew... like most American "Jews"

>believing sources to a claim that already suffers from fallacy-of-composition errors
>to an actual tour through a busy supermarket in Caracas
I don't see any sources. I see a bunch of ideological polemics that are identical to those trying to jew Venezuela out of her oil. And gold.

So you're also a cuck to yentas?

So the USG is printing money and feeding it into the incinerator overseas.
See, under direct democracy, contracts like this wouldn't get signed, and if they did, some traitorous kike would be drinking hemlock on national TV.

How did that tax abatement shit work out in Wisconsin?

And you're still demanding money you didn't earn.

>See, under direct democracy, contracts like this wouldn't get signed, and if they did, some traitorous kike would be drinking hemlock on national TV.
Nice fantasy but until then petition your senator

I believe in forming my own Opinions and unlike leftists Steven Crowders and Ben Shapiro give you all the information so you're able to.. unlike the leftist MSM that's jam packed with fake stories and only left leaning sources riddled with confirmation bias

I'm demanding a higher standard of living for half of America which will in turn stimulate the economy

child we're not a democracy, Now count to three and say the pledge of alligance for me
1.
2..
3...
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

So the more swiss cheese there is the more holes there are
And the more holes there are the less swiss cheese there is?
Why does anyone eat swiss cheese?

The only bad thing about the holocaust is that it didn't actually kill 6 gorillion jews.

Right, so petition your representatives such as your senator.

Well if politics were a block of cheese sure but unfortunately for you there is more than one example of Socialism failing In f/e Russia,Cuba and China, I could keep going for quite some time but what's the point you guys are never going to get it.. if you don't support Trump after all the good he's done so far you've clearly got Trump Derangement Syndrome

Does ben want to fuck aoc

>implying they care

>forming your own opinions
>from just these two guys
Oh, sweaty.

>implying that we are bound by the arrangements of dead oligarchs
>MUH LARP

>I eat process cheese food
And it shows

That's so vague... jeesh people like you are gonna be in a bad place if mommy and daddy don't include you on their will

When did cnn say that

>evidence of failing
>that the USA totally didn't spend trillions of dollars to bring about
Stop shilling for neoliberal jews.

These two guys debate other individuals it's the only whole sources I need

It's called america

Say what?

/pol/ must be proud of you.

Specify where and how? you can't and it's hilarious

what did America do?

You're demanding to strip wealth from the rich. What gives you the right to steal from someone?

That sanctions and seige warfare is why socialism “failed”. Why do you think cnn is where i got that from ?

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Why does america have more people in poverty than the entire population of Venezuela

Why does the majority of africa fail without white people holding their hand?

You are retarded

The government forcing businesses to pay more wages, doesn't mean you have more purchasing power.

>minimum wage should be 1 million dollars an hour!
>hamburgers now cost 6 milllion dollars

It's not the number that matters.

True Wage growth and purchasing power comes when Unemployment is at or near 0% which means businesses have to compete for workers.
It's supply and demand.
If the supply of workers for a sector is low, wages rise to attract more workers.
If the number of workers is always exceeding the number of jobs, wages don't go up.

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They can afford it. Besides they steal their wealth by driving inequity

JAJAJbuahauhahubua explain to me how though.. specifically when and where did we sanction a socialist country and cause it to fail? and cnn came up with using siege warfare in the modern era

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where in the USA are we eating zoo animals?

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Why wont the white man admit his genocidal crimes across the world for the last 300 years? Why does he impose financial sanctions on countries just to invade them and take their resources

what's the difference between socialism and communism?

because income inequality doesn't equate to poverty, in Venezuela they have the least income inequality existing today everyone is equally poor and equally starving, the usa is the richest country in the world for a reason

Time.

colored people are the ones in poverty.

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Socialism always leads to Communism.. Communism is Socialism just after they've taken your health and defenses

Obama made Venezuela what it is today, thats not trumps fault. He just wants to reap what obama sowed and get that crude oil. Sanctions are financial warfare. They sell bonds now, to private companies to not starve. So its not really socialist anymore.

They were already running out of money long before Obama.

People are drinking lead water and dying from not affording their medicine.... here. there is a homeless population unlike Venezuela where everyone has housing

No it's just the Socialism that drove them into the ground now they're trying to use capitalism to save their selves

Are you rich? How much disposable income do you have? Can you afford a 1000 dollar emergency?

But they want European style socialism.

Aka socialism without shitskins.

If any of those nations were under unilaterally imposed trade restrictions, then you can't actually prove socialism was itself the problem, because socialism itself didn't cause those trade restrictions, other countries' reactions did.

Are you claiming there wasn't a trade embargo against Venezuela or Cuba for at least the past decade, demanding other countries also disengage from dealing with them on pain of being under the same regime of restrictions themselves?

It's our wealth. We just let them play with it because they're supposedly serving the public interest by doing so.

This. CNN would be the last place in the world to not repeat the government line of "maduro is a dictator hurrr" and "muh eating animals in zoos" and other such emotive bullshit.

It was shown that a hamberder would only get about 10% more expensive if the minimum wage were raised to $15/hr.
>competing for workers
Why, when they can just push the ones they have harder? Demand creates jobs, not rich people.
The Fed has been using their interest rate powers solely to control wage inflation. That's why the creation of money and the uses to which that money is put need to be politically controlled, and not based on a bunch of (((bankers))) and (((rules))).

Stop shilling this neoliberal jew

>damage control

Which jews are paying you to shitpost this?
youtube.com/watch?v=YUYWrPiUeWY

people can get Medicare and Medicaid, a reverse osmosis water filter costs 50$ no excuse to be drinking tap water like a money and honestly most medication people "need" are the Heroin addicts getting methadone and and the opiate addicts getting pain killers not really a need. Plus the ER wont reject you regardless of how broke you are so I'm going to call bs on people dying from no meds..

The emergency room doesnt wait to treat you if you're sick and broke they will still give you what you need... sorry you decided to fuck up in life where you don't have 1000$ put away or insurance or mental health

>tendentious shilling

Okay, this was epic

Those countries were not restricted by the US over the last century and a half if you think they were go back to adult day care aka college go in your safe space.. make sure it's padded cause this one will sting and go ahead and search US/Russian history books for the truth cause my friend you're terribly far from it.

Ah, so america is doing just fine. We are just lazy junkies. Thanks for enlightening me

You know what watch this video and tell me I'm wrong Socialism is cancer youtube.com/watch?v=Y9O-NoccXQQ

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>watching Ben (((Shapiro)))
Go shill for your jewtube cocksuckers somewhere else.

>It was shown that a hamberder would only get about 10% more expensive if the minimum wage were raised to $15/hr

You don't get this.
Everything would get more expensive.
Every single thing would get more expensive and the minimum wage workers would be back at square 1 very quickly, except now the US currency just inflated like crazy and you fucked over everyone who had a Savings account and retirement plan.

You can't just radically inflate wages.

Listen, I hate the Jews as well, but Meme Marx and (((muh soshulizm))) isn't the answer at all.
90% of the Communists leaders were Jews, dude.
It's what they want.

Biggest problems are immigration and globalism.
Please don't fall for this Socialism/Communism lie thinking you are getting one over on das juden

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You rely on ben shapiro to do your thinking

He's quite well at it.

>Venezuelan GDP per capita 9% higher in the past four years than over the past 30 years
>6.6% unemployment
>totally not an economic war waged by the private owners of capital against the people guise!!!1!

What is the end game of capitalism ? One monarchy corporation ?

Have you ever paid utilities?

samefagging so hard

Shapiro has some points
Yeah he's a filthy jew but noone is 100% bad.
The Jews only did 1 good thing in history and that is making bagels so they are only 99% bad

youtube.com/watch?v=pRahnxKXyOM

Ah steven crowder, known saudi arabia shill, very intelligent

Not I.

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They want more dem voters. They will burn the country for a few more seats.

Buhahah a Saudi Arabian Canadian American... yabetchya

>John Oliver
>a neoliberal shill for the Democrat establishment

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because opening a second browser is absolutely impossible

Watch it Steven shreds Oliver... it's juicy

0%? No
The natural rate of unemployment? Yes

Also raises in minimum wage do not directly correlate with the same reduction in purchasing power for the amount given

Communism is forced in.
Socialism is voted in.
It's merely the difference between murder and suicide.

Socialism is the ideology of the lazy and envious.

Nah, I'm watching The Empre Files, where Abby Martin investigates the shortages in Venezuela.
>spoiler: it's goods manufactured by private cartels that are in short supply

End game?
You think Government has an end game? You have a twisted view of what the role of government should be.

Government is a necessary organizational structure that should provide an sandbox environment for its' citizens to live unobstructed. (That's my take anyway)

Capitalism (free trade) does this because it allows individuals to create things on their own merit and skill.
It's not a perfect system especially when banks get involved, and a FEW liberal/government interventionalist ideas have merit. An example of this is requiring housing codes. Force every builder to adhere to a building code, (that costs more money but is safer), and, in the short term, house cost more, but later wages increase to fit the need of the higher houses, and even later everyone is back at square 1 except now they have safer houses.

But minor tweaks to the concept of nationalist capatalism is the closest thing to a "walled garden of Eden" we can come up with.

Communism strips you of all individuality.

You don’t work. You don’t eat.

There is no "natural" rate of unemployment. That's a jewish trick designed to create a buffer stock of unemployed as a threat to those who are employed.

Was capitalism voted in by india ?

Yup Socialism leads to gang violence and dictatorships

>muh free trade
Socialist countries do free trade too, when the jewniggers allow them to.
Capitalism is defined as teh private ownership of the means of production to be worked for wages, the surplus to be kept by the private owner.
You don't even know economics. Lurk more.
>t.an individual, totally not a product

Why would I give a shit about a place where they shit in the streets and a large portion of them are Muslims of which support their pedophile prophet Muhammad who married a 6 year old name Aisha and bedded with her when she was only 9 years old

>drug gangs in Los Angeles are totally socialist dude
Lurk more

Capitalism is a government? What are you saying? Im asking what the world will end up like in the future if all countries were capitalist and competed for control of the market. Would amazon be our one stop shop for everything?

Ah deflection. Nice tactic. I already forgot what i was arguing and you sir, made an EPIC reply. Absolutely DESTROYED socialism!!

>Also raises in minimum wage do not directly correlate with the same reduction in purchasing power for the amount given

I don't think that is true. If that was true, then logically, we could just raise everyone's wages forever and ever and always come out profitable which is impossible.

But raising minimum wages has so many other effects, as well
>raise prices of everything which fucks over everyone with retirement plan
>reduces the number of available jobs immediately since a number of employers wouldn't be able to afford the wages
>you are promoting more and more automation of jobs
>you are instigating more people to work under the table for lower wages and even promoting more illegal immigration

It's such an incredibly bad idea

Are you implying LA isnt a result of the socialist programs meant to help illegals in your leftists state California? this is what happens when you give illegals free healthcare.. you don't have enough money to keep your city running
youtube.com/watch?v=uFujzJrvNXA

you can never have 0% unemployment, it is a falacy, natural rate makes sense to anyone who is realistic about the world,

>La is socialist
Stop watching ben shapiro and read a damn book NEET

Stop shitposting

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Where did I say LA is socialist, lol typical lefty hearing what you want... careful you're in smollet territory

So under capitalism its impossible to give everyone jobs? If capitalism is working why is there so much homeless people? They cant all be lazy asses

You can absolutely have full employment, defined as everyone who wants a job having one. Of course, not if you're a dickless corporatist trying to keep wages down.

Goes suck so more wart riddled leftist cock bitch you can't ban my voice away here filthy cunt GOD I LOVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH

Drugs, brought it by your friendly rapist illegals

>They cant all be lazy asses
This.

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I think I broke the bot

Why does america buy so much drugs?

Lol goodness not with the bot stuff again..
cкyчный

Ok so the concept is " in a game of competition, does success always eventually funnel to 1 winner?"
That's an extremely complex quesion

I'd suppose capatalism has a weak point there, but we can prevent that from happening with anti-trust and monopoly laws.
Where capatalism's weaknesses are with too much success and excess, communism's and socialism's weaknesses end up with so much failure it ends in breadlines and starvation

So there is ethical capitalism, where is there an example of this?

>pictureforants.jpg

it's because we have spending money because capitalism is awesome and because drugs are addictive, if there wasnt opiates being smuggled into America it's illegal to propagate Poppy plants and our epidemic would end rapidly

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If people only starve under socialism, why is there 16 million children struggling with food security in usa

It's all the same, the Spaniards raped them all and they're all related.. What do you think happened to the Inca people

Why did we secure the poppy fields in Afghanistan if all drugs are smuggled by illegals?

the second part of what you said is not coherent with the image. It would be "And the more holes, the more cheese?"
I know the kneejerk reaction is to think that can't be it because that doesn't make any sense, but that's precisely the point. Socialism doesn't make sense. The same way more holes shouldn't give you more cheese, doing less shouldn't give you more money. That's just a front; Really, the cheese is being stolen from someone who can make cheese.

Still not starving.

They had a civil war before pizarro showed up. Ask an anthro professor.

maybe their mama's shoulda worked instead of bummed off the government while their dad did time for selling crack cocaine

Ah, its so great that they arent starving, they just struggle with having food security

Who said anything about employment under capitalism? I'm talking about the Job Guarantee as written about by Mitchell and Wray. ¡SOCIALISM! because the government does stuff.

Why did the cia sell those people crack tho

They're not even close to the same ya mook. And how does that change the ignorance of "3 Mexican countries".

We had to protect those fields for their people because opiates are important for short term treatment not long term prescriptions.. especially when their people are under attack they're going to need the quick acting pain meds

That's a theory that's been disproved.. a civil war doesnt eliminate an entire civilization.... lul what do you thin they had... nukes?

>he can't tell the difference between relative and absolute quantities
Shouldn't you kill yourself for being a tendentious shill?

CIA and the FEDS are the deep state they're bad people this is why they don't like Trump.

Well can you answer that? Im genuinely curious

Did tucker carlson say this?

Does this mean you wear fedoras and eat cheetos?

Who disproved it

there's not many actively belief-following communists starving right now, so maybe you have a point.
most all of them that would have the chance to starve have died.

To get people to bum off the government.

Brazilian, Mexican doesnt matter they're traceable through blood back to the Spaniards no such thing as a pure native in south America.. the Spaniards raped too much, they were so brutal they would tie rope around the natives heads until their orbital sockets snapped releasing their eyeballs... just for fun.

i know the difference. clearly you either misread, or i've overlooked something. either actually tell me where my mistake is, or you're a lying pussy.

So is capitalism working the best it can?

modern science, if it was scientific fact it would be easily found on a credible source

Why would Reagan do that?

Thats a great non answer nice

Still don't understand your point... That just sounds like soldiers to me.
One quarter of Europeans can trace their blood to Ghengis Khan. Guess why?

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How is that better?

Ok, this is epic!!!

No, I don't think so. I don't think there's anywhere that's capitalist enough for it to work 'the best it can'. I think even America has some parts of how it handles wealth that are against capitalism, but it's certainly working better than the alternatives.

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How is it better being alive and in some pain then having been alive, in pain, and then getting to the point of death?

But minimum wage has the effect of allowing Middle Aged and elderly grifters sit on entry level jobs like a cashier at Safeway so teens have significantly narrower field of options.

Opiates work great short term, long term you build a tolerance requiring more and more until it no longer helps your pain then when you really need relief you wont get it. There are thousands of non addictive options in terms of medication to help mitigate pain

So fdr was a dumbass and he didnt let americans create wealth for themself? Social democracy failed, obviously... and the middle class that arose, was just a mirage. and capitalism can never work to its full ability, so what are we doing ?

Before MMT was developed, in the 1930s there was the Civilian Conservation Corps, the Works Progress Administration, and many other government-funded initiatives to build infrastructure and nature in the US.
As far as I know, nobody's tried the particular MMT version, because it requires a currency issuer to create money to pay workers, rather than depending on tax receipts or such, as states and localities must do. But the gist is that there are lots of things that need to get done, so instead of paying (or not paying) a buffer stock of people to be unemployed by the private sector, put whoever's ready, willing and able, to work on some of this stuff, as a temporary employee of the public sector, at minimum wage. When the private sector gets out of its doldrums, the JG shrinks down. When the private sector starts to recede, the JG swells up.

More holes = more cheese as a matter of overall proportion, but larger hole area = less cheese. Besides US swiss cheese has smaller holes. What do you make of that?

Should the minimum wage be revoked?

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Why do you say it can never work to it's full ability?
I'm no historian so I don't know if it has, but I don't think there's any reason to believe it can't. And again, even if capitalism couldn't work to it's greater ability, it's still miles ahead of it's alternatives working half-assed. What do you mean what are we doing? It's the best option.

If you don't have the wealth to buy food, why would you have the wealth to buy opiates?

yes it would so they could prove they are real socialists and work for a great country insteat of being lazy edgy fucks

socialism where I can go to the hospital without ruining my life with debt.

Because to many drug users drugs are more important than food, and it's usually in the form of Heroin on the streets

Well it seems like its never been reached, and will not in the near future. like said it hasnt been enacted yet. It seems unrealistic that it will succeed

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Because private owners are parasites.
>the best option
>t.propagandized amerifat

Can we kill any of you capitalist amerijews that try to sabotage us? Will you stay the fuck out?

I don’t agree with minimum wage but this image is retarded. GIs are fed three hot meals a day, have a place to lay their head every night, have full medical care, and get a long list of benefits (including college paid for) after they’re discharged. It’s just a bad comparison.

doubt it you'll be starving

>be me
>never sucked a dick
>say its bad
how can i

And that's what you snow flakes are demanding lol it's beyond fair except these men earn what they have

So people dont starve in america?

What do you mean "as a matter of overall proportion"? If holes are a lack of cheese, more of them means less cheese. Are you increasing the cheese as well in your head? Or shrinking the holes? If so, why? I find that to be a large error in visualization.
>Besides US swiss cheese has smaller holes
Woah there sophist. It's a theoretical argument. The holes and the cheese are analogous with wealth and work(I don't think respectively, can't be bothered to check), I don't know why you'd need to talk about cheesemaking in different places to be able to talk about it, unless cheese happens to be some kind of new concept for you. Don't try to distract the point.

Why are there so many homeless vets today?

Go on show me your one anecdotal case., if they starve it's generally a drug or mental health issue 100% not an economic issue seeing as anyone can get a job at micky D's

Socialist hand out programs like section 8 and medicare

So its their fault, not capitalisms, but if someone starves in Venezuela that’s socialisms fault

What's the alternative?
Is there an alternative you can pitch that allows the idiom "A man should be able to eat the corn he grows"? One that doesn't involve government-mandated stealing? Don't act like morality has nothing to do with economy, and it's especially important to note the past success of any of the "alternatives" you're considering as well. Or don't, shield your eyes, cover your ears. That will work really well.

So they go homeless to get those benefits?

>hurr durr

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the difference is one person is starving out here when their entire population is starving so yes it's vastly different.. that's like saying we have an aids problem as bad as Africa because a man died of aids here when people die daily from aids in Africa

>One person is only starving in america

nope government gave all of it's cash to lazy fat ass spics who have unregistered husbands that work under the table so she gets foodstamps / housing with her 9 kids and he gets untaxed construction cash

>hoarded grains
>demonising having your own shit
only a hyper-intellectual retard even can do this kind of backwards logic

youtube.com/watch?v=NwL83aUTRrg

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Why do white people receive the most welfare ?

The first deals in total quantity, the second deals in density.
>you need to explain my shit-tier analogy to me
Nah.

If he's using the people's land to grow it, he'd better grow enough for everyone.
>any obligation I don't like is stealing
Kek
>Don't act like morality has nothing to do with economy
I would be the last person to do so. However, my morality goes beyond your infantile pre-conventional "MINE ME ME ME" crap.
>muh past success
Yes, it's important for you shill-tier cucks to understand that you were the ones who sabotaged those endeavors, thinking you're coy to deny what has been well-documented in the general press and literally anywhere you choose to look that isn't a capitalist shill paper.

Except that nobody's actually starving there who wasn't starving before. The black market is alive and well and the rich capitalists are working night and day to get the IMF to take over the place.

are you telling me our entire population is starving? If I recall right we've actually got an obesity epidemic jabuihahahah starving... this is a freshy.

Stop shilling this neoliberal jew

because we make up around 53% of the population

>Can we kill any of you capitalist amerijews that try to sabotage us? Will you stay the fuck out?
im not a capitalist or a jew im just pissed at the commies because they want free stuff but dont do anything for it imean in the soviet union the people got forced to do all the shit and it worked good but now in russia the people just cry and shit their pants about problems and do nothing about it what i want to say is the most people think communism is easy utopia and the state is going to manage all their shit so they can be lazy and suck dick but thats not how its work if you want communism to work the people need to do it if they dont the same shit happens like before you get forced and are not free

So how are spics receiving all the welfare?

youtube.com/watch?v=9is9OoSMgrY

Is our entire population thriving? Or barely getting by? So we arent ALL starving, but why do 16 million children still suffer from lack of food security even with all our welfare programs ? Whats goin on here?

their fat ass mom begrudgingly becomes legal

That sounds like a vox number 16 million if I have ever heard one.. why don't you link your lefty source

The point of communism is to eliminate the state, it cant be communism until that is achieved

He's in the middle for sure, and Neo? do you realize how hipster that is good lord I can see your greasy neck leading to wispy strands of hair attacked to a head topped with a fedora.

Epic logic

>I am a cuck to a work ethic that was manufactured by industrialists who didn't like the idea that employees weren't dependent on them
You can keep your run-on sentence. Anyone who has a lick of sense knows that there will still be work to do in a socialist economy, but that we will get to keep far more of the value of it, and we can probably work less than we do now.

>posting glownigger videos
youtube.com/watch?v=YUYWrPiUeWY

feedingamerica.org/hunger-in-america/facts

Obviously jeff bezos works harder than all his warehouse employees combined

>middle
>calls neoliberal right-winger John Oliver "left"
You gotta stop with this bait

yeah but the people just doing this
>cry and shit their pants about problems and do nothing about it
so socialism would work but it you wouldnt be free either if you dont have a great dictator

Kek

Ima take a wild guess and say it's because shaniqua traded her stamps for some booger sugar and the trend caught on, I can almost guarantee where these kids are struggling is some sort of hood

Oliver is lefty, I can prove it.. was it the right with trannies and hate speech laws? nope that was you lunatic lefties youtube.com/watch?v=42_BXU0_5gs

Nice logic and facts bro

Fact is there is programs available to help kids in need if their parents have too much pride or have a drug issue that's not an economic issue it's a racial issue.. Blacks needa get their shit together

So the cia didnt infiltrate the black panthers to create the crips, push crack, and the 94 crime bill didnt target black people directly, so this is all their fault

>anything I don't like is left
Bourgeois liberalism is right-wing.
Social bullshit has no business being measured on a left-right scale just because the ejws in washington want to D&C us.

None of you faggots even understand out democracy and how voting effects it. One socialist, conservative, or even fascist sounding policy isn't going to instantly make the entire country 100% only that. If fucking AOC became president tomorrow, we still wouldn't BE a fucking socialist country. This is why we have representation from multiple parties/states etc. and why we vote on shit.

The reason america is successful is because we have never gone 100% in on anything. The day we do we collapse into a dictatorship. But it's so unlikely because of what the founders of this country gave to us.

So we'll keep changing, and we'll never be nazi germany, or a socialist shithole. Just chill the fuck out.

lol your tinfoil hat musta fell off cause you just snapped

>>I am a cuck to a work ethic that was manufactured by industrialists who didn't like the idea that employees weren't dependent on them
>You can keep your run-on sentence. Anyone who has a lick of sense knows that there will still be work to do in a socialist economy, but that we will get to keep far more of the value of it, and we can probably work less than we do now.

iknow there is still work in a socialist economy but i dont get it what you wanna tell me what i said is that commies are lazy and dont do the work alone they need someone that force them and thats should be the dictator and if the dictator is a asshole they are fucked

>logic and facts
>Yea Forums
Pick one

we're not socialists, we're capitalist with a few socialist policies, basic bitch 16 year olds know that shit

Unreported history isnt a theory. Your ignorance of it doesnt mean it doesnt exist

It is when there is evidence to the contrary, a whole civilization doesnt just vanish it gets conquered

Neoliberal Capitalism to be precise

>two corporate advertising agencies serving their large donors
>totally multi-party!
What electing AOC President tomorrow would prove is that the Democrat Party's attempts at policing the left edge of the Overton window are null and void.

This is well-documented in their own papers.

>they need someone that force them
Wait, Mr. Run-On Sentence, isn't that what capitalism is all about, as far as the working class is concerned?
I think you're projecting, again.

and what these liberals soiboys don't understand is the Spaniards didn't start the pillaging in Mexico it was much further south and they worked their way up

So the FBI didn’t infiltrate the black panthers and other movements in the 60s, CIA didnt push crack to fund regime change wars, and didnt disproportionately lock up black americans

Would you Trust people who have done something like that? I wouldnt so I don't Trust their sources period.

Infiltrating a terrorist organization is their job.

Capitalism is based on voluntaryism. You choose who you work for

>isn't that what capitalism is all about
yes and socialism

yeah and nobody chooses to be a doctor when they gouge your wages and you earn as much as a burger flipper, then you run out of doctor so the dictator starts appoints jobs at the point of a gun and that's what you call communism

And it led to gang culture being the dominant one, that was the goal of the CIA all along wasnt it?

>hurr durr it's completely voluntary if a small number of people claim this magical right of """ownership""" over literally everything someone needs to live
You're drunk. Is it page 10 yet?

>pretending china isn't poised to become the next hegemony.
ok cuck

So what was colonization? Wasn’t there guns involved? Sure stalin, lenin, and mao were violent but Capitalism never was?

Fuck u and ur quads cuck

Cuba disproves your case completely.

The CIA is apart of the feeds the people who bought their portion of government.. then bankers you claims to hate.. the backers who buy our puppet presidents and the deepstate that hates Trump

They probably figured that gangs were more manageable than the proletarian left.

ya betchya youtube.com/watch?v=XopSDJq6w8E

no actually we traded for our land youtube.com/watch?v=ZGK9KHUnaaQ

You’re proving my point still

Bingo

the feds bought their portion of the government where do you think they got that money/? they're also controlling the MSM narrative trying to get their power back

So the cia did create the mess black people are in and we all agree!

Nah blacks were already doing all those things the feds joined to figure out who the main people were it's typical undercover cop stuff.. you know how you know the hood isnt the cia's fault? look at any part of Africa

So Africa was never colonized by whitey ?

Nope not with out the request of shitskin, and the funny part is the whites turned to farmers and helped feed them until the negros got racial and kicked them out violently

So an Apartheid state is a good thing...

>he thinks Zimbabwe is ancient history
Let's give this shill a hand!

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