How can guns be traced to you Yea Forumsros. Also how easy would it be to get away with killin someone?

How can guns be traced to you Yea Forumsros. Also how easy would it be to get away with killin someone?
Btw gun thread

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Guns are too easy. Do it with a swordfish.

John Wick shot like 600 people in New York City. You’ll be fine.

Gun shows. Go to a lot, look around. Soon enough you'll see the guys that are there every time selling guns. They don't give a shit about paper work. Do you want to know why the Reno gun shows are some of the biggest? Different laws in Nevada.

Here's the thing about killing someone; you only want to kill someone you know. That puts you on the suspect list right away. On the other hand, if you just want to kill anyone, that could be pretty easy if you thought it through.

use a shotgun

>Buy used, private sale.
>You're looking for either a ring of fire company .25 or .380, a Glock G17, or Smith and Wesson model 10.
>Older is better, as are firearms that have already had more than one previous owner.
>Wrap the grip in friction tape.
>Wipe it down while wearing gloves.
>Don't worry about the brass, the heat produced by firing will burn off the oils they need for prints on that, but the outside of the gun will hold them.
>Keep a fresh ziplock in another ziplock in your pocket.
>Use the one that hasn't contacted your pocket to hold the gun until you can ditch it.
>You should be planning on doing this within a half mile, your goal is to get some time in the elements or, better yet, for someone else to walk away with it.
>You're still not going to get away with it because cops aren't making their case on the gun, they're finding motive than getting your dumb ass talking

I disagree about gun shows. Gun shows mean security cameras and people with memories who like cops. If OP is planning on sitting on it for a year thats not a problem, but we both know someone asking for advice about murder on Yea Forums isn't going to be the kind of person capable of delayed gratification.

Don't be an asshole. Solve your problems without violence.

Man, we're a long way from the days of "do a flip" aren't we?

I had a 9mm stolen from me. It was in a drawer at work. Never reported it to the cops. I'm just wait for the day the swat team bust in and arrests me for a murder I didn't commit.

He won't know what Ring of Fire is if he's asking the question he is asking.

But solid plan nonetheless.

If he's not willing to do the research he deserves to be in prison. Everybody should have a piece they wouldn't cry over losing.

>Don't worry about the brass, the heat produced by firing will burn off the oils they need for prints on that, but the outside of the gun will hold them.
BS. I reload my own brass. You can easily see the prints on them before cleaning. Its pretty easy to tell the prints from before firing from the after firing prints.
The before firing prints get dark quickly due to the acids being heated enough to break the oxide layer on the brass and cause very light etching.
If you wipe them down after firing then regular fingerprint dusting wont work but cyanoacrylate fuming will work since the esters can bond to the etched brass easier than the rest of it.

So here is how a "gun trace works". Police contact the manufacturer who tells police where the gun was sold. Police contact said gun shop who then looks through paper work to find who the gun was sold to. Then police have to track down every place the gun was sold to from that person. There is no electronic database when you buy a gun, that paper work stays at the gun shop until forever in paper form.

Why does this seem suspicious

Theres a world of difference between visible markings and presentable evidence, especially when you're pretty much guaranteed a warped partial in the first place due to the circumstances. Still, if you're paranoid theres always the .38 or gloving up to load.

It's just that fear of accountability I assume, some pussies just think if they encourage it they're gonna get a knock on their door a few days later from the FBI and never see the light of day again.

Which is why private sales are vital, second or third generation guns are better, and crossing non-state jurisdictional lines to make a purchase is best. Hell, if you're in a high volume area you can even chance the state line problem.

Idk man. My dad worked for the ATF but retired recently. He told me that the gun tracing is pretty easy nowadays.
Alot of the guns that are made and sold brand new have their serial numbers logged. Not 100% on that but he was in head agent in charge of a Texas border office. So I'm gonna trust his judgement.

As far as guns manufactured before 2015 is pretty much the way this man described it.

Cops find a wiped casing or a partial the first thing the lab will do it try fuming. Fumed prints have been admissible as evidence since the very early 80s.
From my experience (Navy officer working with NCIS) most labs fume by default even if clear prints were turned up by standard dusting. It preserves the print and enhances fine details. A >90% match on a >%50 partial print is enough to be considered irrefutable/immutable evidence. I dont remember the study off the top of my head but the entire FBI fingerprint database was set on 90/50 matching and hit less than 0.001% as false positives.

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Magic bees track guns. Moron.

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There are RFID tracking chips in EVERYTHING, your money, clothes, shoes, guns, watches, phones, car, etc!

Welcome to the Orwellian Surveillance State Nightmare!

if you want to kill someone theyre probably in your life, and youre probably in their life, i.e., you will be some sort of suspect

guns basically scratch the bullet a little bit when they fire, in a way that can link the bullet to the gun it was fired out of.

The best way to keep a gun from being traced after a crime is if the gun doesn't exist after the incident. You could melt it.
If you are intent on keeping it then you need to change 3 parts; the barrel, the firing pin, and the extractor. These are the three parts that make marks on the bullet and casing that they are looking for.
Fingerprints on casings can be a little funny. Sometimes they might get a good print, other times it might smear too much to be meaningful. Don't use hand loads to commit a crime for the same reasons you need to get rid of the barrel.

>The type of bullets used
>If you load the gun with out gloves and basically take a DNA bath with that bullet
>Guns bought recently using those bullets
Basically stay protected and use someone else's weapon for it

Just do what Al Pacino did in Carlito's Way. Through the handgun into the back of a city garbage truck. It will get buried under tons of garbage at the landfill. Never keep a firearm used to commit a murder.

Absolutely do not make your own delivery system for a round and then disassemble/scatter the pieces in clandestine locations.
That would be bad and make it harder for cops to trace a murder. So don't do that, get me?

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