Why do the democrats want open borders?

And we're also suppose to believe that, worst case scenario these people will be Patriots and fight for this country when they won't even fight for their own

I don't know. But why do conservatives want the United States citizens to be xenophobic nationalistic sheeple?

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A wall would be helpful though in easing my fear that pedro will come and rape my wife and child.

New world order.

>implying nationalism is bad

explain

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Why do all the Republicans keep having forcible anal intercourse with little, 9yo., white boys & then cook them & eat them after fucking them by the hundreds of thousands every single day?

See?
I can say absurdly ridiculous & outrageous stuff too.

Why don't conservatives realise borders are completely arbitrary?

>Why do the democrats want open borders?
why are conservatives such suckers for wedge issue, divide-and-conquer political tactics?

Why do the republicans want a whites-only ethnostate?

Why deal with what those pesky voters want, when you can just import your own voters?

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if walls dont work why do you have a fence
that's right.
they help.

basic facts, that brainwashed liberals are in denial!

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Muh acceptance

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With sonar balloons, camera sync equipment, night vision, and all the other current technology pumped into the border control, it only assists in a less than 50% catch rate of illegal immigrants. Technology hasn't been the answer for a hot minute, little boy.

>brainwashed
oh the irony.

Well because WHITES conquered this country:)

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>confusing nationalism with a communistic dictatorship

ok retard.

this is the socialist one world ideology

kek

Yeah, like how modern prisons are open fields with GPS tracking and virtual fences, and not a wall in sight

Walls work because we're corporeal beings.
We can't pass through steel and concrete. Further, they can be enhanced with as much technology and security as you like. A physical barrier augments their effectiveness.

If you have the technology and patrols without the wall, the next guy in charge can just defund the technology and patrols, and now you're back to an open border.

This, watch videos of actual traffic control agents speaking on the subject. They tell a story liberals don't want to hear. They struggle to catch immigrants. The harsh truth is they hire more and more agents, get more and more technology and their catch rate doesn't go up. And there is millions upon millions of dollars in equipment that seemingly aren't enough.

of course avoid my argument
classic brainwashed liberul!

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No, we don't want open borders. We just don't want a wall or a fence down there. Beto will get rid of it anyway.

Yes Beto is definitely going to tear down the 1 billion dollar wall that was approved by the pentagon recently. You live in a world of fairy tale. One doesn't simply destroy a wall that his government spent a substantial amount of money on to create.

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Its because like women they have the mentality of a child. One which is unconstrained. Its the liberal viewpoint of possibilities, not trade offs. It's a wonderful world of theory and what ifs that fails to account for reality.

Then go ahead and destroy your house twice, remove every door and window of your house including your car. How can you be this much of a brainlet?

absolutely no attempt at a back up argument

>thinking that north korea isn't the perfect example of nationalism gone wrong.

You are clearly a low IQ moron.

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>>brainwashed

I dunno, I didn't spend two years believing Muh Mueller was going to haul the President out of the White House in cuffs

Why do republicans want to sodomize stray dogs?

not an argument

Fake and gay

not an argument

not an argument

So a wooden privacy fence will keep the beaners out of my back yard?

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you guys should go play some vidya instead of arguing about politics like a bunch of nerds no offence

It's true. Third world countries have higher crime rates brainlet.

>a literal Communist dictatorship
>nationalist

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It's a fine argument

>calls others brainwashed
>spent years being duped into thinking a coverup was going to undo an election

I bet you were surprised on Election Day as well. So far, it seems the "brainwashed" folks have had a much more accurate picture of what's going on than left-wing media victims

not an argument

The wall that was approved by the pentagon isn't a wooden fence. It's more like giant metal beams coming out of the earth.

stay mad kid

To make it simpler for your moonshine deteriorated mind:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_nationalism

Yeah, thats not what your original post said brainstem.
>PROTIP: Immigrants to the US have markedly lower crime rates.

Thank God he has no chance of winning. He's the prime example of open borders you liberals want.

>what are shovels and ladders?

not what we're saying

>Juche, which is just Stalin's "socialism in one country" in Korean, is not Communist

lmao

Hey libtards. umad? The pentagon just transferred 1B dollars to build over 50 miles of this fucking masterpiece of a barrier. Trump won on all of his key points. Stay salty shitlords AHHAHAHAHA
>Pic related, the new and improved large wall next to the puny one previous presidents signed off on. Bye bye brownies.

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Don't you see that this is a matter of homeland security and an emergency of upmost importance?

Thats funny considering the completed wall is estimated to cost many multiples of that.

Not an argument

>30 foot high ladders
>then pulling up a thirty foot high ladder to drop over the other side, so you aren't killed by dropping over the other side of the fence

Further, during the time you're doing that, Border Patrol can leisurely make their way over to your location and arrest you when you climb down the other side. It also confines your numbers coming over to one guy per ladder per minute, as opposed to an open field that a theoretically infinite number of people can stroll across.

>Not realizing the 50-60% of illegal immigrants simply run over the border that have no walls.

Sauce? And what original post?

>approved by the pentagon
That's not how US government works dipshit

Every little bit helps. Border control catch rate in unwalled territory is drastically low in comparison to the fenced/walled areas on our border.

Stop assfucking thousands of little 9yo white boys every day.

>30 foot high ladders
>UNPOSSIBLE

$20 million a mile or so, with cameras/seismic monitoring to augment the physical barrier. They've come up with about $8 billion in funding this year, so that'll do until 2020

stay mad kid

Oh goodie, you can kinda read, maybe at a 4th grade level, but anyway. It's nationalism as a component that is integrated into their political system that makes it very dangerous. Same thing is happening in this country at this very moment.

>Check out these numbers I just pulled out my ass
Most out of status immigrants came through legal channels and overstayed their visa numbnuts.

My apologies. What I meant was: Trump absolutely wrecked and bullied beta pentagon boys to give him the money required for his wall foreman*

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The Democratic party has always relied heavily on impoverished votes. More immigrants means more votes.

I work with ladders all the time and it's not a maneuver I would be comfortable with.

Look up the catch statistics yourself, my man. No one on Yea Forums is going to cite someone that probably is stuck in their ideologies.

"democrats" don't. a small minority of the party does, and so does a small minority of libertarians.

>mad

A 30 foot ladder is not a safe proposition. That's lethal fall height at the top.

It'll be a damn sight harder than simply strolling across. You limit illegal entries to a single point where someone's brought two ridiculously long ladders, where very few people can attempt to come across, and since it's a see-through wall, Border Patrol has seen them approaching long before they get there, and can drive over and wait.

Compare with an open field, where you could have hundreds walking across at once. It's a no-brainer

California Democrats tend to lead the party. Like Pelosi.

California's economy relies on illegals. This cannot be overstated. All the dock yards, all the farms, so many restaurants and other businesses all do what they do because they can bring in illegals easily, pay them off the books or otherwise get them working without the necessary licenses or paperwork and it keeps costs way down. Got a couple connections in government? So much the better. Your connections can make sure the local police look the other way, assuming you ever get busted for some reason.

Building a wall -- a real, effective wall -- would ruin the California economy. This is why Pelosi will fight to the death to prevent it. It's her state, her friends and her suck-ups at stake. And the Democratic Party right now is her party, so they will back her up.

It's also why she doesn't like AOC or Bernie. They are not "Pelosi Democrats" and won't necessarily fall in line with what California wants. Their ability to get party backing depends entirely on their willingness to kowtow to the party of Pelosi.

Bernie never will. Maybe he's stupid, maybe he's really a man of conviction, probably some of both, but it's why he'll never win a presidency. AOC might still cave. We'll see. If the Democrats yank the rug from under her in the next election you'll know she didn't cave and they're done with her.

not an argument

not an argument

This guy actually understands how border patrol works. People think that illegal immigrants in majority will cut through fence, or climb over it. Or go under it. No. Realistically that is operation that takes a lot of effort without border patrol spotting with their intelligence. IE Average people aren't going to do that. So where do the average people go to enter America? They simply go through the unwalled/unfenced areas. For the most part, the idea is to bottle neck these fucks using technology and higher agents in these areas but the sad reality is they have a tough time catching them all the time. In fact they don't do that well at all. By having more walls, would allow technology to be more dense in unwalled areas leading to a higher catch rate. Trump isn't a racist bigot for wanting more walls stretched, he's a fucking realist lol.

>"$20 million a mile or so" (BS but whatever)
>2000 mile southern border
>spending 40 bills on an out of date wall that will require constant mantenance in a country that won't pay for adequate education or healthcare for children

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You're right. It's an explanation.

>A 30 foot ladder is not a safe proposition
And walking across the desert with a couple gallon jugs of water is?

stay mad kid

low quality bot

>i can't back up my bullshit numbers

low quality bot

its not going to be 30' in all places. in some it will be, then in others it will be as low as 16' according to current plans.

but you just bring a ladder to the top, to use to climb down the other side.

in the isolated areas these are being built, if border patrol saw them, they'd have time to intercept anyway; it's hours of walking. areas where it's not are already walled or heavily patrolled.

if you want to catch them, cameras and sensors are better; nobody opposes those. the wall money would prevent a whole lot more crossings if spent on technology and personnel.

tunnels are another way through; those are built all the time. they're be even easier to construct in these far off isolated areas if need be, but they already tunnel under existing walled sections routinely.

the wall just isn't an effective deterrent. it's a cod piece for trump, to appease his stupid supporters that don't understand how little benefit it offers.

not an argument

>Trump absolutely wrecked and bullied beta pentagon boys
Sure kid

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>the dock yards, all the farms, so many restaurants and other businesses all do

That's the way it is all over the country. Without the illegals, legals, and migrant workers grocery storer would be empty etc...

1250 miles thanks to natural barriers, and there's already 600 miles or so from the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations' builds.

So, it's a lot less. Also, lol at Congressional Democrats voting another $70 billion a year for the Pentagon without blinking, but suddenly $5 billion a year for border security is a profligate waste of the taxpayer's holy dollar and think of the children

/thread

same ignorant retard with little understanding of border security.

What's worse:
An immigrant who was vetted, found legit, and overstayed their visa.
or
An absolute unknown person who snuck across the border and could be a murderer, a wanted criminal, a drug runner, a pedophile, a trafficking victim, etc

I have a lot less problem with people overstaying visas. In my view, all visas should give a potential path to citizenship.

Illegal crossers have to be stopped.

>Because walls are better than tanks and f-35s

Difference is I can find support for OP's statement. Most Democrats don't actually say "open borders" but they oppose any efforts to increase enforcement.

I can't find any support for your statement. This is what happens when you "look things up". You get educated. You should try it sometime.

>What's worse:
retards like you are worse.

not an argument

stay mad kid

>but you just bring a ladder to the top, to use to climb down the other side.

Envision sitting balanced on top of a 30 foot fence and pulling up a 30-foot-long ladder up to you and then putting it down on the other side without falling off. Of course by that point there's a CBP truck sitting down with agents ready to arrest you.

>if you want to catch them, cameras and sensors are better; nobody opposes those.

Let's have both. The advantage is the next President can't defund a big wall.

>tunnels are another way through; those are built all the time.

That's why the stuff being built extends 10 feet underground and has seismic sensors.

>the wall just isn't an effective deterrent

Customs and Border Patrol keep insisting that it is, which is strange. And if it isn't, it's a waste of a few billion dollars out of the trillions the government spends every year. Who cares?

In fact, isn't it strange how, if it's not going to work and considering we're talking 0.01% of the federal budget, how absolutely batshit the Democrats are going about it?

Why are you so stupid believing this?

>What's worse
Nothing like asking a question you cannot answer

That's all jobs American teenagers should be doing and it's flatly illegal to hire illegals.

>there's a CBP truck sitting down with agents ready to arrest you
Also robot doggos with lazers

I'm sorry did you miss the 1 billion dollars approved? Seems pretty good to me. I am a happy man.

Missed you, kinda :p

And then rejected by the house..

>Thinks american youth will put down their phones and pick tomatoes

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its very short term thinking
youre not going to have a civilization if you let central and south americans in in unlimited numbers
it'll be pretty pretty pretty brutal

S/O to Trump for hooking us up with more walls to keep beaners out. Stay mad, libtards. He wins on every front while you cry. It tastes so good to lick your tears.

Let's be honest here, Canada needs a wall too.

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>implying Crazy Nancy Pelosi will ever approve funding for laser doggos

Sad!

>declare victory and leave
Its just like vietnam!

>rejected by the house..

lmao, one guy on the Armed Services Committee said "pls don't" and then all the same outlets that duped you folks with MUELLER TIME for 2 years said "DRUMPF DEFEATED"

Smith himself admitted the money's already moved and will be spent, and they'd need an act of Congress to try to stop the Pentagon from programming its own spending. Which will never ever happen, but somehow that never gets mentioned.

You're being played again.

Because they prevent law enforcement from rounding them up, they endorse sanctuary cities, they never stop businesses from employing them, they divert huge sums of taxpayer money to pay for them, they take laws that keep the public safe off the books to keep them out of prison and they fight border security tooth and nail. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

stay mad kid

>wanna build wall
>Dems say "no way drumpf"
>get money anyway
>wall being built

They sure showed him!

stay afraid little boy

Why do republicans lie and declare national emergencies in order to circumvent constitutional funding laws, whilst simultaneously creating trade wars with China thereby increasing the trade deficit with Mexico, requiring even more southern border cross transit?

Oh, it’s because they’re hypocritical retards with no clue what they’re doing - other than appealing to racist morons

>get played by fake news for years
>getting played again
>others are the mad ones!

lmao

>Envision sitting balanced on top of a 30 foot fence and pulling up a 30-foot-long ladder up to you and then putting it down on the other side without falling off. Of course by that point there's a CBP truck sitting down with agents ready to arrest you.
really not that hard. plus, like i said some sections will be half that height; even easier. they only need one person to set up the ladders who's skilled at it; a coyote could do it. and these are for isolated areas, the time won't make the difference for CBP arrival.

>Let's have both. The advantage is the next President can't defund a big wall.
Let's not. it's just way too expensive for providing next to no benefit, there's too many other things this countries needs to be spending 10-30 billion for something that offers negligible benefit and will trample all over private property rights (i thought the right cares about those? you have any idea how many eminent domain seizures are going to be requires?)

>That's why the stuff being built extends 10 feet underground and has seismic sensors.
yeah it's not being built 10ft underground. and what are they going to re-do the existing wall too?

>ustoms and Border Patrol keep insisting that it is, which is strange. And if it isn't, it's a waste of a few billion dollars out of the trillions the government spends every year. Who cares?
Trump agency filled with right-wingers agrees with Trump. Shocking.
And wasting tens of billions of dollars is always a problem, even if it's a small % of the budget.
Republicans are going just as crazy, what with shutting down the government over that stupid shit.

Frankly I'd rather pay for lazer doggos than a wall.
>putting billions of infrastructure in the middle of 1000s of miles of unoccupied desert is retarded
>If a 5000 year old technology couldn't keep the mongols out, why do you think it will work on beaners

not an argument

>wall
Fence
>being built
Not built, will never be finished.

Retarded aren’t you

>he doesn't know that the United States has operated in a state of continuous national emergency since 1949

I think there are 5 separate national emergencies ongoing at this moment, 4 of them left over from Obama's declarations

Yes it is

>>get money anyway
>>wall being built
I'll take shit that hasn't happened for 500 Alex

I honestly can't think of any place that hires illegals in my city other than letting them pick produce on farms and mowing grasses. No one else wants those jobs anyway.

not an argument

Because democrats are naive and believe in stupid ideas like justice and equality lol thats why most democrats are: minimum wage slaves, ethnic minorities, single parents, welfare recipients, internet activists, armchair political analysts, all around worthless scum who want you to feed into whatever bullshit they spout lol they're the kind of people who will give you a thousand different ideas on how to paint a fence but when you ask them to pick up a paint brush they drop their starbucks and look at you like you just asked a jew to eat an egg mcmuffin.

DOG EAT DOG WORLD MOTHERFUCKER

not an argument

no u

stay mad kid

If only someone would invent a long thin flexible thing you could take to the top of a wall and lower yourself down. Like a string only thicker. Oh well, I guess we can dream.

That's why Democrat voters support it. The took the bait.

Why the politicians support it:

Or y'know just go to a section where the river runs under the border and quickly go under it. Even after building a billion dollar wall they will find a quick n easy alternative thru.

not an argument

no u

The harder you make it, the more you can stop.

Just dropping tank traps along the whole border to stop vehicles is a big improvement. They can walk through, but not drive through. Add a 30 foot fence and now they have to bring a heavy ladder or rope, and be able to climb. Ever tried to climb a rope with a bunch of trafficked 8 year old girls? Maybe you have! Maybe that's why you support Democrats?

>false equivalency
And those national emergencies are all different. Not the same.
Granting different powers normally reserved.
What none of those previous national emergencies did was bypass constitutional funding laws.
Trumps does.
It’s unconstitutional and illegal.

Typical republifag, only cares about “illegals” when they have brown skin

stay mad kid

Why?

>really not that hard

You are really not visualizing this. Even if it is only 16 feet high, that is a 16-foot ladder that you are having to pull up, swing around in mid-air, and lower down the other site, while sitting on a bunch of spikes up in the air. Even that much aluminum is fucking heavy and will be trying to tip you down to a horrible death.

>the time won't make the difference for CBP arrival.

You should tell CBP that, they keep insisting that it will. Go set 'em straight!

>it's just way too expensive for providing next to no benefit

Again, $70 billion a year extra (EXTRA!) for the Pentagon is no big deal, but $5 for a secure border is just crazytown. Uh huh.

>yeah it's not being built 10ft underground. and what are they going to re-do the existing wall too?

Have another look at the photos. That's a deep trench full of steel and concrete underneath the wall sections. Also, seismic sensors = good luck trying to tunnel through that.

>Trump agency filled with right-wingers agrees with Trump.

They've been begging for a wall for decades. That's why we got the Secure Fence Act of 2006, and Obama's equivalent in 2009.

>And wasting tens of billions of dollars is always a problem, even if it's a small % of the budget.

Heh, it is hilarious to see everyone become sober-minded guardians of the taxpayer's hard-earned dollar the second they don't agree with something.

not an argument

>Not built, will never be finished.
>Hurry Mueller!

You guys are like pathologically addicted to losing

because

trips of truth, yup that's one more method

and yet another, explosives and things that could saw through the slats aren't exactly hard to come by in mexico, they could just make a hole in it too. that would also eliminate the few minutes of delay dumbdumb there thinks would guarantee border patrol would get there in time instead of miss them.

And you are pathologically addicted to lying

stay scared little boy

Mom told me to tell you that your ramen’s ready and come eat at the table.
And she said to tell you, when you start to cry and argue, that yes, she knows it’s an online only game. But you have to get yourself to a save point THIS INSTANT or she’ll throw your ramen away and then you’re grounded.
Hey, don’t yell at me - I’m just telling you what she said.

says cotton eye joe who lives off welfare, has an armory of guns, drapes his bed with a confederate flag and fucks his 1st cousin in the asshole so he doesn't get her preggos.

You're wrong. Trump was able to do it because not all Congressional funding is specifically earmarked. It's why Trump had to be careful about exactly where he pulled the funding from. He couldn't simply pull funds from, say, the DHS uniform budget (there is one -- it's an actual line item in the budget) because it's specifically earmarked.

But there are plenty of things that are basically slush funds -- loosely worded items meant to take up the slack when they realize they forgot something. As long as Trump can safely argue that the wording allows it to be used for a wall, he can use it for a wall.

no u

>because a giant desert isn't a barrier already
Again, only a tiny percentage of people cross in the middle of the desert. Most come on legal visas that expire or are smuggled through or near legal checkpoints.

>What is a fucking rope?

Sounds like slimy politician behaviour from a swamp denizen

>What none of those previous national emergencies did was bypass constitutional funding laws.

I don't think these words mean what you think they mean, because what they mean is just about nothing

>Trumps does.

Hilariously, all it does is fund programs Congress has already passed into law, especially the Secure Fences Act of 06, which mandated a border wall but forgot to apportion any funds for it. Now Congress' law is funded!

>It’s unconstitutional and illegal.

It's not either of those things, you know? Just saying things doesn't make it so

Well those spics just need to learn how to rappel down the otherside with a rope!
I am gonna open a camp in Mexico to teach all them how to ill make millions!
Oh wait i wont they do not have any money dammit.

They don't want to open borders you fucking retard

Just saying “nuh uh” doesn’t make it ok.

You’re fine with trump wasting billions of your tax $$$ on a pointless vanity project.
I’m not

ok me

>still believes stuff he reads from people who told him Hillary had a 98% chance of winning and MUELLER IS COMING TO TAKE OUT THE TRAITOR DRUMPF
>others are the liars here!

You're getting played, friend. You are going to keep being surprised and disappointed as long as you keep listening to those guys

And the worst run through the unprotected border.

That's who we need to stop. It's why repeat criminals that we deport keep coming back. They aren't flying in on American Airlines on a tourism visa.

no u

stay scared little boy

not an argument

when have they ever said the want open borders? Give me a single sourced quote of a democrat saying "I want open borders" and I will vote republican for the rest of my life. I'm serious

>And the worst run through the unprotected border.
More shit you just made up.

Because nation states are holding back humanity.
We have a global economy, but no global government. That’s retarded and why the world is run by evil men.
You want to wall yourself in, ok, but do it yourself

so they can get their hands on more brown cock and take more children

>shimmy down a 30 foot rope
>CBP agents are waiting at the bottom to arrest you

It's concrete-filled steel slats. It's a motherfucker to cut through, because of the different thermal properties of the steel and concrete. A torch that will cut the steel in seconds has a bastard of a time in the concrete, a blade that will cut through the concrete gets eaten up by the steel. And the whole time you're making a lot of noise and light, so by the time you're finally through, CBP is parked on the other side.

no u

Polls said Hillary would get more votes than trump.
She did.

YFW the polls were 100% accurate and YOURE the retard being played

why do republicans think immigration should be more important then gun rights?

maybe when trump loses 2020 republicans can remind you redneck idiots what they think is more important

>You are really not visualizing this. Even if it is only 16 feet high, that is a 16-foot ladder that you are having to pull up, swing around in mid-air, and lower down the other site, while sitting on a bunch of spikes up in the air. Even that much aluminum is fucking heavy and will be trying to tip you down to a horrible death.
they just throw a carpet over any spikes or razor wire. it's really not as hard as you seem to think. 16' fall won't kill you either.

>You should tell CBP that, they keep insisting that it will. Go set 'em straight!
silly me thinking extremely biased government agents always tell the truth and aren't influenced by police goals.

>Again, $70 billion a year extra (EXTRA!) for the Pentagon is no big deal, but $5 for a secure border is just crazytown. Uh huh.
That's a fucking big deal too. They're ridiculously overfunded and wasteful. Personally I'd cut defense spending to 1/3rd of current and bring in outside auditing to eliminate waste.

>Have another look at the photos. That's a deep trench full of steel and concrete underneath the wall sections. Also, seismic sensors = good luck trying to tunnel through that.
When did they approve a final design? Even if one of the prototypes did that, you're talking about probably doubling the cost of it. and nobody is talking about rebuilding the existing walled portions anyway, they can just keep tunneling under those.

>They've been begging for a wall for decades. That's why we got the Secure Fence Act of 2006, and Obama's equivalent in 2009.
For the entire length? Don't recall that. But it's still useless.

>Heh, it is hilarious to see everyone become sober-minded guardians of the taxpayer's hard-earned dollar the second they don't agree with something.
About as hilarious as seeing the supposed party of fiscal responsibility always blowing up the deficit.

neither is saying "not an argument"
not everything pertains to your precious debating skills, snowflake

>>CBP agents are waiting at the bottom to arrest you
If the agents are waiting there you don't need a fucking wall you mental midget.

>You’re fine with trump wasting billions of your tax $$$ on a pointless vanity project.
>I’m not

Fair enough. But what's the point in getting so upset about it? We're talking literally 0.015 percent of the budget this year. Why is Chuck Schumer so fuming raging mad over a rounding error?

The feds probably spend more money on ergonomic seat cushions.

no u

OP made a factual statement though, its quite literally a liberal priority to have more open borders. You're just using hyperbole to help explain your useless point, very lib indeed

stop raping little boys

>It's concrete-filled steel slats. It's a motherfucker to cut through, because of the different thermal properties of the steel and concrete. A torch that will cut the steel in seconds has a bastard of a time in the concrete, a blade that will cut through the concrete gets eaten up by the steel. And the whole time you're making a lot of noise and light, so by the time you're finally through, CBP is parked on the other side.
first of all they haven't picked a final design, second of all some of the designs they already have shown can be cut through quickly, and third, then fine, just explosives, none of those walls will stand up to a good blast, and that just takes seconds.
and CBP can't hear a concrete saw from 100 miles away.

Its quite literally a conservative priority to rape more children.

Well they're getting in somehow. You think they fly in on airlines on visas, and yet there are videos of people actually walking across unprotected areas of the border. Who do you think does that?

>Why do the democrats want open borders?

Why do the jews want open borders?

stay mad kid

My favorite thing about these threads is that democrats literally never defend their points, they just attack the Republican image and say the most absurd bullshit

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>OP made a factual statement
being this brainwashed

Open borders =/= more open borders

apparently not wanting to spend 30 billion on a stupid concrete wall makes you want completely open borders now

You're right I'm going to rape a child as we speak, god bless

no u

>can't prove its a statistically significant percentage
>can't prove they are the worst criminals
opinion discarded

literally a ladder

because they rely on emotion for debate instead of logic.

just don't eat him afterward tho cuz that's kinda weird. okay?

t. Community college dropouts

Hows that fry station promotion working out for you?

>they just throw a carpet over any spikes or razor wire.

This is a different sort of wall.

>silly me thinking extremely biased government agents always tell the truth and aren't influenced by police goals.

Well, their job is to protect the border and they've spent decades saying "We need this specific thing to protect the border" -- it's just weird to see internet randos decide they understand this area of policy better than the people who do it as a career.

>That's a fucking big deal too. They're ridiculously overfunded and wasteful. Personally I'd cut defense spending to 1/3rd of current and bring in outside auditing to eliminate waste.

Absolutely agreed. Unfortunately, literally nobody in Congress seems to agree with us.

>When did they approve a final design?

Last year? 30 foot concrete-filled steel bollard wall, 10 foot (3 meter) foundation

>For the entire length? Don't recall that. But it's still useless.

Literally nobody is talking about the entire length. Natural barriers mean there's only about 600 miles more wall needed, plus another 130 or so which is scrap metal fence and vehicle barrier that anyone can just walk over.

>About as hilarious as seeing the supposed party of fiscal responsibility always blowing up the deficit.

Yep, total budget hypocrisy is a bipartisan consensus.

You need a rope, a ladder and a roll of carpet.

You drive up to the wall, lay down the ladder, climb ladder with carpet and rope, lay carpet over spikes, attach rope to ladder. You and all your friends quickly and safely lower down to the other side, where you are picked up in a waiting van. Takes less than 2 minutes.

I sure hope Mexicans don’t have access to ladders , rope and carpet.
Oh wait, they already do.
Oh well, let’s waste billions on a wall anyway, some charlatan billionaire reality TV star promised they would do it and get Mexico to pay, but oh well, what’s a few wasted billions to a fiscally conservative republitard

PROTIP: We aren't speaking. Those are the voices in your head.

stay scared little boy

The CBP is waiting because, instead of an open area that hundreds of people can just walk across, it's one guy at a time with a ladder climbing up the see-through wall.

So, there is exactly one place they need to go to to arrest the guy. It's even easier, because once the guy's on top of the fence, he can only either climb down to where they are, meaning an easy arrest, fall to his death, or change his mind and get back on the Mexico side.

Retard. Do you think having fences around yards is ineffective? Should also petition to have them taken down

>and CBP can't hear a concrete saw from 100 miles away.

Sensors and cameras, bro

>first of all they haven't picked a final design

Well, except they have and have been building it for about a year now

>second of all some of the designs they already have shown can be cut through quickly, and third, then fine, just explosives, none of those walls will stand up to a good blast, and that just takes seconds.

Yes, very stealthy and absolutely won't result in a swarm of Border Patrol and possibly the military

Back to your containment board

How fast do you think people move after days walking across the desert Otis? Do you think there are mecha-beaners outrunning CBP trucks?

If someone wants to enter, that fence won’t stop them.

>You drive up to the wall, lay down the ladder, climb ladder with carpet and rope, lay carpet over spikes, attach rope to ladder. You and all your friends quickly and safely lower down to the other side, where you are picked up in a waiting van. Takes less than 2 minutes.

Fortunately, since at the time you're the only guys attempting to do that, you've been picked up on camera before you even got the ladders out, and CBP has rolled up.

>lay carpet over spikes

lmao this nigga thinks it's an 8 foot chain link fence

Because Whites dont vote for them! (How the white vote voted, pic related.)

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Fences are to keep animals out/in, not people, you Fucking retard

Fortunately, the wall will now prevent people from thus risking their life in such a dangerous way. Lives will be saved.

Sure thing Cleetus, here's your imaginary fries, even though I'm a college graduate which you denounce as pointless, useless and elitist or entitled. I make a modest 72k a year but i'm sure you vote republican because you think that money will trickle on down to you someday. Keep on voting for the orange emperor i'm sure he cares about you so much.

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>Fences are to keep animals out/in, not people

lol fucking what

>fortunately, you get caught
Do you know the man power you need to monitor and stretch of border than intensely 24/7?
Are you wanting to pay for that too?

>This shit I just made up proves my point

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>Keep on voting for the orange emperor i'm sure he cares about you so much.

I enjoy your tears of impotent rage almost as much as I enjoy the economic benefits, so I think I will, thanks!

sure kid

There’s dozens of ways a person can circumnavigate a fence.
You’re obviously cattle, seeing as you’re not smart enough to figure it out

>I enjoy the economic benefits
I figured you were on welfare or disability. Most of you "MAH JERBS" niggers are.

>Do you know the man power you need to monitor and stretch of border than intensely 24/7?

Hardly! That's what cameras and sensors are for. The wall confines people to a slow crossing at a single point of one sector, the cameras and sensors pick them up when they're still miles from their side of the wall. Everyone wins.

Walking across the desert is deadly dangerous, friend. Dehydration is one of the most horrible and painful ways to die. With a big wall, fewer will be tempted to risk their lives in this fashion

>This is a different sort of wall.
One that's immune to carpets? kek

>Well, their job is to protect the border and they've spent decades saying "We need this specific thing to protect the border" -- it's just weird to see internet randos decide they understand this area of policy better than the people who do it as a career.
like the other law enforcement agencies, they're biased towards a specific way of thinking that's ultimately not the most effective for their own goals, and definitely counterproductive for other interests.
and there's other experts that agree.

>Last year? 30 foot concrete-filled steel bollard wall, 10 foot (3 meter) foundation
Link? I just googled it and every article from 2019 is about how they're still 'considering' using steel slats and using them where they're rebuilding, and no mention of final approvals

>Literally nobody is talking about the entire length.
You mean besides Trump, the chief advocate of the wall.

>hallucinating some imaginary person

Whatever you say, friend! I'll just keep enjoying the winning.

>one of the most horrible and painful ways to die
And yet that doesn't stop them. But the addition of a 16 ft wall will make all the difference. Flawless logic.

keep projecting little boy

Okay. Enjoy that monthly benefit check "winner".

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How will that stop “an invasion”, which is the reason the national emergency was declared?
Oh , because everybody, literally EVERYBODY, even Trump, knows that it’s absolute bullshit, there is no emergency, and it’s just politicians being slimy swamp denizens in order to hand government contracts to friends and family.

>Sensors and cameras, bro
The types of things that if the wall money was spent on them instead, would prevent more illegal crossings? cute.

>Well, except they have and have been building it for about a year now
They've been replacing existing sections of wall, from what seems to be the steel slat design. The design for the large new sections doesn't seem to be finalized.

>Yes, very stealthy and absolutely won't result in a swarm of Border Patrol and possibly the military
Sure, but they'll be long gone by then. Excavating tunnels makes a shit ton of noise too, and they do that much closer to civilization.

of course Americans don't want the job which the wages have been driven down by illegals willing to work for$5 an hour.

stay scared kid

Because they are controlled by the Jews and they want to get rid of nations and their people to gain control over the entire world through their banking system.

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>One that's immune to carpets? kek

You would not want to be trying to balance on a carpet on top of this.

>they're biased towards a specific way of thinking that's ultimately not the most effective for their own goals

Yeah, but their goal is preventing people from illegally crossing the border. Why wouldn't we listen to them?

>Link? I just googled it and every article from 2019 is about how they're still 'considering' using steel slats and using them where they're rebuilding, and no mention of final approvals

I mean, they've already been building this stuff since 2018

politico.com/story/2018/03/30/trump-border-wall-mexico-492767

>You mean besides Trump, the chief advocate of the wall.

You are being lied to by the dreaded Fake News. Even back during the primaries, he was pointing out that we don't need the entire border walled.

pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/blog-post/donald-trump-wants-build-wall-border-mexico-can-he-do-it

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=im8cMIiz0K4

>demands proof
>makes counter-claims with no proof
stay mad kid

>With a big wall, fewer will be tempted
Prove it.
All building the current fence made was pushing migrants further into the dessert, resulting in more deaths.
Now I know this is Yea Forums, and even though you’re anonymous, you feel the need to project that edgy teen persona;
But would you take responsibility for an increased death toll if your theory turned out to be horseshit?
No. Because not only are you retarded, you’re also a hypocrite

Dont worry bean counter, you were not being taken seriously since the beginning. All hail the glorious emperor of mankind

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why are you so frightened of phantom boogeymen all the time?

Leftists use this as a false argument. What they're actually saying is "immigrants" have lower crime rates than niggers

they will never break it down by race

We should be worried about the poorest among us. That's who illegal immigration hurts the most. In other words I'm worried about people like yourself.

are you suggesting that all those fences in the cities are to keep out animals?

ohhhh right. black people. i understand your position now.

Nice cope and walk back, faggot.
We see you

>The types of things that if the wall money was spent on them instead, would prevent more illegal crossings? cute.

Good thing we're getting both now! They complement each other nicely, and of course, a future President can't cut off funding to a big wall.

>They've been replacing existing sections of wall, from what seems to be the steel slat design. The design for the large new sections doesn't seem to be finalized.

They chose concrete-filled steel slat last year, it was announced before pulling down the prototypes in January bro. It's see-through, hard to cut through, and cheap to build.

>Excavating tunnels makes a shit ton of noise too, and they do that much closer to civilization.

Feels good to have seismic sensors.

>Nice cope and walk back, faggot.

What?

>thinks people have an nobligation to prove his bullshit is wrong

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Ah, so no one with a fence has ever had their property trespassed?
Really?
Never?

Huh?

Cope

Cope harder faggot

Democrats are the communists.

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Right. Most of the terrorism is coming from alt-wite turbovirgins.

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no u

>Prove it.

Everywhere wall has been built, crossings have dropped? The simple logic that when you place a 30-foot-high barrier across a place, fewer people cross it, because there's a big fucking wall there?

>But would you take responsibility for an increased death toll if your theory turned out to be horseshit?

How could there be an increased death toll from deterring people from walking across a deadly desert? It's like having a lock on the door of the lion cage -- anything that deters people from going there will save lives.

>Paddock
>terrorist

what is this meme

Both of you are brainwashed, you fucking cunts.

this

i'm still waiting

because it works, and we keep on winning duh

so you openly admit you use dirty political tactics to get what you want, completely disregarding morality or ethics?

Samefriend

If that makes you feel better about being wrong. Hey at least you tried. lol

nope.exe

They want you to get hurt

nope

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