The second amendment is obsolete

the second amendment is obsolete

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...from my cold dead hands motherfucker!

that works for me

Then repeal it. Unless/until you do that, it remains the law.

Lets get to work repealing it.

It never was law! Fuckin morons all of you.

oh, the irony

u ban guns i'll just google "luty firearm" and be good

>These people furthermore confuse the word “infringed” with “infringed upon”
Grabbers are reaching levels of retardation that shouldn't be possible.

You do that. I'll start building the gas chambers.

400million guns in the USA, we need more kinda rookie numbers guys

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>The Second Amendment does not protect an unqualified right to own firearms; it recognizes private firearm ownership to be a necessary prerequisite to having a militia and so acknowledges the right to bear arms as part of militia service. Because militias no longer exist in modern America, this right no longer makes sense as the Founding Fathers intended it.

that last half is pure conjecture and assumption

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>The Second Amendment does not protect an unqualified right to own firearms; it recognizes private firearm ownership to be a necessary prerequisite to having a militia and so acknowledges the right to bear arms as part of militia service. Because militias no longer exist in modern America, this right no longer makes sense as the Founding Fathers intended it.
And that's were the author goes and fucks up.

not even that; it's just factually wrong.

a militia wasn't a standing force; it was something that could be called up when needed. people were expected to bring their own guns, so the individual right was necessarily protected so that a militia could be formed.

there's a lot better arguments then lying about the historical meaning of militia.

They're really desperate if they have to blatantly lie so hard.

Trust me, plenty of very very stupid people out there who will willingly destroy their own rights. Then the government can swoop in and start the mass killings, as have always been repeated in history after any large scale gun grab.

History repeats itself. Plenty of herds willing to be slaughtered. Too bad they drag down thinking people with them.

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The Constitution is the law of the land.
Just saying.

Yeah, apparently the author never read this - District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 - the tl;dr version is gun ownership is an individual right not tied to militia service.

Neat. I still don't see a logical reason to give up firearms. It's proven that banning them doesn't reduce violence.

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I was just about to reference this, good on ya mate. 2008 Heller vs DC.

This is some good quality bait right here. Did you just start taking your first year of civics courses in high school?

The Jews want the mud people to kill off the whites. Then the leftover 70 IQ mud peoples can be sold Jordans, purple drank, Taco Bell, weed, and Jew propaganda on 600 channels and all the movie theaters. The kikes think they can run that scam forever.

This is a lie. Stop blaming Jews and blame Leftists. I'm a Jew, family are Jews, we all support Trump and are anti leftists. Why do you think Trump supports Israel and hates western europe? Israel supports the USA and anti liberal values far more than western europe does. Western Europe would gladly take in the rapefugees and exterminate the Jews and whites. Israel is our best ally comparatively speaking.

Leftist Jews are equally bad as any other Leftists. Being Jewish is completely irrelevant as these people are usually atheist anyway.

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land, you fucking imbecile.

As to the OP, no, that's wrong. No legal scholar takes that view. No one with a proper understanding takes that view, not even those who major figures in the anti-gun group. Militia, in the context of the time the 2A was written, does not mean what you think it means. You are just ignorant.

if the courts can be honest about that, i don't know why they can't be honest about it being blatantly unconstitutional to permanently revoke 2nd amendment rights. imagine if you lost your religious freedom because you were convicted of tax fraud, or your due process rights because you once embezzled a few hundred dollars. any other amendment besides the 2nd people recognize the absurdity of it; they don't even limit it to violent criminals ffs. no justification. but SCOTUS is intellectually dishonest all the time; they pick their political stance, then work backwards to construct a legal argument to support it.

In all honesty, do you really want lunatics with guns?

Its hardly obsolete, I personally think we should arm more than bears, just incase.

Damn skippy. Glad someone else knows what’s up. Cheers.

Pretty much this. It still makes me feel dirty and wrong but hell...

no, but it should have been a constitutional amendment, and should have been limited to violent crimes only. white collar crimes and petty drug crimes for example aren't lunatics and shouldn't lose those rights

The left is against open borders.

americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/11/the-left-case-against-open-borders/

Israel is a criminal terror state. Your support for right-wing Christians who want you to burn will come back to bite you.

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kike

just look at how many rights we've lost to the idea that you can ignore what the constitution says and originally meant and substitute your own 'shall not == shall not UNLESS' exceptions. it's just not worth the damage. and amending to restrict the right of violent felons to own guns would have no trouble passing.

democrats are against the 2nd ammendment and republicans only care about defending the 2nd ammendment when the democrat is president

this is the president you support,now what were you saying about "from my cold dead hands".maybe if the libtards were still in control you might give a fuck

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well with the exception of the religion part of the first, republicans are against all the other amendments. well not currently the third, but they're so far up the military's ass i bet if there ever was an actual need to quarter soldiers, they'd support adding 10,000 exceptions to the 3rd to allow it too

The amusing part is this opinion piece coming out right after SCOTUS repealed gun control measures this past week in Cali, Illinois, Washington State, Oregon & Colorado this past week - and refuted every argument OPs embarassingly stupid opinion piece asserts in the process. Sorry, op, but SCOTUS has already decided on this & with Trump getting at least 2 more SCOTUS appointments in his Presidency, you'll be shit out of luck for at least another 30 years. 2nd Amendment isnt getting repealed in your life time.

THIS

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>obsolete
It's never been so close to being used for it's intended purpose.

>having a militia

Implying every state doesn't have a private militia of Men ready to die for the 2nd.

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that's the one upside of the republicans stealing control of the court. now if only they weren't going to shit all over parts of the 1st, and the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 14th, and 15th amendments, we'd be in business.
i really wish democrats would remember they're supposed to be the party of expanding civil rights. they're totally for doing an effective repeal of the 2nd, and are starting to move on restricting more speech and trampling on due process for sex crimes too. republicans still much worse for individual rights tho.

If you were to interpret the second in modern language it would state "A well disciplined militie, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of an individual to own and carry arms shall not be infringed." It's not hard. It was made simple to prevent misinterpretation and yall are looking like clowns trying to figure out a way around the whole "shall not be infringed" bit. You legally can't tamper with an individual's right to own arms. Not "assault weapons", ammunition, bumpstocks. It's all covered under "Arms".

SHALL NOT MOTHERFUCKER

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regulated and we're damn god at it too.

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>You legally can't tamper with an individual's right to own arms
Unless you are a felon, or have a medical marijuana card....

maybe you city slickers see no practical use for someone to possess a firearm seeing how the police is only five minutes away, but out here in the sticks where us country bumpkins live the police are no less than 3 hours away, besides we do not call the police, we shoot first and ask questions later. If the questions are not answered correctly we just bury the bodies amongst the spoils from butchering hogs and cattle. Fuck your pathetic attempt to strip us of our constitutional rights. Fucking with our rights is the quickest way to start another revolution. BTW I have one question for you mentally ill Liberals, what right is next, the first amendment? After all if someone voices an opinion that offends you, or tells you the truth all you retards want to do is shout them down to silence them or label it as hate speech, so why not go after the First amendment with the tenacity that you are the second, at least we will all know who the true fascist are in this country.

Wait... You're Jewish AND atheist? How are you a member of a religion and not a member of a religion? Being Jewish isn't an ethnicity you fucking Jew. Oh... Yeah... That insult is kind of overplayed I guess.

As you wish

I didn’t vote for that RINO NY Demoshit.