It blows my mind that we are intelligent enough to explore the universe, but all we can focus on is the imaginary idea of money. We really are stupid fucking apes Some of us are smart enough to see that money has no value and are alright though.
It blows my mind that we are intelligent enough to explore the universe...
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How did you buy your tablet phone or laptop that youre posting with op?
that is all well and good, and i understand our currency is bullshit, yet i cant just go build a house or plant a farm. they got us fool. that is the point. We have been around long enough that some have found out how to make things like laws that don't let you live outside of their parameters.
Because I found someone that was willing to give me money other than my parents (started a business)
Yeah, so basically we're all fucked. Nice knowing you boys
Lol sounds like someone is butt hurt they don’t have a lot of money, try getting a lot of money and see how you feel
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>Body has needs
>food and shelter and all that comfy bullshit
>people join collectives to make satiation easier
>some people specialize to be more productive. I.e. spend all day wood collecting so collective has wood more accessible
>oh no not hunting food if get wood
>ask fellow to do extra hunt, but not worry about extra wood, even promise help make structure
>oh no exchange of goods and services to increase quality of life and allow examination of life.
>Tfw learning new, but non-applicable, facts of the universe can't be eaten.
Money equates how much society is willing to assist you
You dont REALLY need assist and can live a frugal live on your own in the jungle, but once you had the taste of a safe, warm home youre never going back.
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What?
Plus no time for science if everone is having to hunt-gather for themselves.
Fucking apes lmao
I think you're discounting the value of money. It's pretty ingenious actually - a tradable system of value that quantifies people's contributions. And I think most people realize that it's not the money that's at stake, it's what it can get you.
Like that's any different? Money is literally what it can get you. The problem is the distribution of wealth. Poor people are expected to work 70 hour weeks to work/go to school, while rich people are just lucky and get to live how they want. Everyone should be able to live their lives however the fuck they want, because quality of life is greater than quality of fucking stupid ass money
What you're talking about is a different problem than money. In an industrialized society, regardless of the quantized value system, some people are able to leverage the work of others to create more for themselves. This is not a "money" problem, it's an artifact of scalability, technology, and automation
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Same difference?
Fucking idiot, bye
And here I thought this was a thread about not funding NASA or exploring the stars, instead it was pleb commie thread.
Exactly. Just whining. The kid probably did his first shift at McDonalds and is now bent out of shape about it.
Ok, bye wage-cucks
So, what's your solution, mate? Enlighten us
My solution? One person out of millions in the same situation? My solution is fuck off and that the the world we live in is objectively fucked up. I don't have a solution, so my life in the eyes of the world is meaningless. Life being meaningless in a world is a good world? I fucking guess so. Lmao
Yet another commie fag?
Money is made up blah blah blah.
Paper money is indeed made up but it is the best system we have for producing wealth.
Any other system failed or only partly succeeded.
You're quite welcome to move to a commune and try it out.
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You sound like a 15 year old angsty teen.
You need to get laid.
>My solution is fuck off
Look, if you want things to get better for yourself, you can't just say "oh it's fucked", throw your hands up and then.... what?
It's much better to go out and create something to help your life. Otherwise, everyone is right, this is all pointless whining. As MMM says, don't be a complainypants.
>It blows my mind that we are intelligent enough to explore the universe, but all we can focus on is the imaginary idea of money. We really are stupid fucking apes Some of us are smart enough to see that money has no value and are alright though.
No, about .0000001% of us are intelligent enough to explore the galaxy. The rest are dead weight, especially the ultra wealthy.
>It's much better to go out and create something to
help your life. Otherwise, everyone is right
Say that to people living in 2nd/3rd world countries that work their asses off
You can't always just create something
You just assume lazy people are the ones that can't create something
Fuck you
Who's fault is that? Every single person should be tested to see if they are capable of expanding our planet. We are just expected to get shitty jobs, and work slave hours to create a business out of nothing.
Not the other poster. He's right, currency is not the problem. Currency solves the problem of liquidity in trade - the ability to exchange goods and services in a timely and satisfactory manner. Your hatred towards money is a projection against the results of how individual people are able to accumulate "stored value", which would be equally present in the form of any other exchangeable good or service without an intermediate like currency.
I can't imagine you are upset that people are able to store their "work" and "effort" in the form of credit; that would be irrational. The unequal paying out of that value to individuals who do more or less work has to be your issue. Given the evolutionary nature of our existence, I'm not sure if you can really eradicate this aspect of life and trade, as it is inherent that an unequal distribution of starting resources and abilities is going to affect the outcome for the players. How are you going to address that though?
>Who's fault is that? Every single person should be tested to see if they are capable of expanding our planet. We are just expected to get shitty jobs, and work slave hours to create a business out of nothing.
The ultra wealthy
>Your hatred towards money is a projection against the results of how individual people are able to accumulate "stored value
Nah, imagine a world where you couldn't be in a lifetime of debt because people are stupid enough to be manipulated
You're trolling
Troll
>You can't always just create something
>You just assume lazy people are the ones that can't create something
You're being a complainypants again, it's a bad habit with you. You can always take action to try to improve your life and there will always be people that have it harder and easier than you. So, don't hide behind and co-opt 3rd world problems. Get concrete and solve YOUR shit. Ask yourself what in YOUR life is wrong and what things you can do to help.
It may not be perfect, but you have two choices: try or complain. One has a chance to make things happen and the other doesn't.
>play the lottery, it's your only choice
>try or complain
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Yep, sometimes it feels like a lotto, but you might as well play anyway.
You know I'm right.
i have a solution, but you won't like it...
It literally is a lotto. You didn't choose to play or not, but you have to play
I don't care anymore. I'm going to work out and feel good
ok
It blows my mind we are intelligent enough to do anything we want but some faggot keeps posting a raid thread asking us to do something to some transexual art or something. Someone tell that nigga to stop it.
>Hard-working people from non-developed countries can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps
Yeah, that's a tough situation they're in. Unequal distribution of resources alongside historical and lasting influences from other cultures (who may have had better starting resources) has surely affected their ability to grow and improve their lives. Life's not fair, and there is no obvious solution to solve this issue. Some people don't even think this is an "issue" that needs to be solved, and that it is something that will either naturally resolve itself, or that it will just continue to be because that's the way the world works.
>Test everyone for ability to contribute to improvement of planet
Who is going to quantify this? What does that even mean? Technological advancement towards leaving this wet rock? Greater understanding of the intricate machinations and fundamental laws of the universe? Emotional and spiritual growth of the human spirit and "soul"? And who passes and gets to stay? The """"intelligent""" lucky lotto winners of the genetics potluck, or the billions of people already here, none of which had a say in their being brought into existence?
It doesn't matter how you answer those questions, because it is all a matter of philosophical and ethical opinion, and what kind of culture you wish to promote. The fact that you think it's fucked and is unfair is one thing. You can't say it has to change, and also say you want to give it all up because it's worthless. The fact you want it to change implies it has inherent meaning to you, that it is something worth changing and fighting for. If you're not actively trying to educate yourself in every conceivable way in order to best tackle that issue which eats at your soul, then not only are you not intelligent enough to pass your own proposed testing, you're making the entire world worse with your complaining.
>It literally is a lotto
Yes, perhaps. Doesn't matter, though. Right now, it's the way things are set up. You can work to change it if you're so inclined, but until then, it is what it is.
>You didn't choose to play or not, but you have to play
You have a choice, though. You can do nothing but sit on your ass and complain. See how far that gets you.
>>Test everyone for ability to contribute to improvement of planet
I don't even know. You act like I'm a fucking politician or something. I'm just a normal person pointing out the flaws in our fucked up society
>The fact you want it to change implies it has inherent meaning to you, that it is something worth changing and fighting for. If you're not actively trying to educate yourself in every conceivable way in order to best tackle that issue which eats at your soul, then not only are you not intelligent enough to pass your own proposed testing, you're making the entire world worse with your complaining.
So, because I'm one person that wants to change things while nobody else does, that means I should fight for it? Fuck off, I'll leave the world to you fucking idiots
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Yes, perhaps. Doesn't matter, though. Right now, it's the way things are set up. You can work to change it if you're so inclined, but until then, it is what it is.
No shit
>You didn't choose to play or not, but you have to play
No shit. See how far that gets you? For most people it means suicide. What's your point?
>Nah, imagine a world where you couldn't be in a lifetime of debt because people are stupid enough to be manipulated
Imagine is the key word, because you are describing a pipe dream.
>because people are stupid enough to be manipulated
If there is any difference in relative intelligence between people, there will be ways to exploit the other. Absolute intelligence is secondary. Intelligence to not equate to benevolence. Besides, smart people are manipulate by dumb people all the time too. Increased intelligence won't eliminate relative differences in outcome.
You should really read the whole post before you quote me out of context; it just makes you seem like you have poor reading comprehension. You're upset that some people can put in less effort for more rewards. You don't like seeing the average human slaving away to justify their continued existence while the rich and powerful skim profits off the top of the poors' efforts.
You don't like seeing the average human slaving away to justify their continued existence while the rich and powerful skim profits off the top of the poors' efforts.
I don't like seeing anyone being taken advantage of. Every single fucking person should be accommodated to their own ability, and we have more than enough technology to accommodate that. If smarter people can take advantage over other people, that are equally human, then we live in a fucked up society I guess money as brainwashed you into thinking otherwise. Enjoy dying with all your money being passed on to others. Fucking idiot
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Just let the thread die, since you're so smart. Fucking idiot
>So, because I'm one person that wants to change things while nobody else does, that means I should fight for it? Fuck off, I'll leave the world to you fucking idiots
If you want change, you need to put in the goddamn effort. If you bitch that others aren't helping to solve the problem before you even start contributing, what does that make you? You're a pathetic joke and a hypocrite where you stand now. And to think anyone should give your thoughts and opinions on the matter because you complain on a Japanese image board is even more laughable. Your thoughts don't matter. Let me point this out again:
>I should fight for (things I value)? Fuck off
What the fuck are you? You have to be the weakest link in your ancestral lineage to have this opinion, because it screams that life is not worth living. You're mad at the world because you got pulled in without a choice, and it isn't what you wanted. You'll literally just sit on your ass and wait for it to change, or you're not going to play until it's how you wanted it; as if the world owes you a goddamn thing.
I literally am stupid and have no more to offer than anyone that I've subjected in my opinions. I'm an idiot just as well as anyone else
troll
Btw, you used ; wrong, fucking idiot
Like I said, I have a job, fucking troll.
Nice troll yourself, I was trying to be genuine.
If you want change, you need to put in the goddamn effort
Same could be said for the black lives matters movement, fucking idiot
>If you bitch that others aren't helping to solve the problem before you even start contributing, what does that make you
A product of society/
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shut the fuck up retard
You're probably trolling, but I agree. Along with Outlaw Star
No point in arguing with a moron. You are correct sir, good luck in life
Perhaps more so
It's not literally a lotto. It's figuratively a lotto. And you can choose to not play by refusing to live.
You are literally right. Good luck and you will do good
Life, tbh
Life is a lotto, hope I win! If not, fuck it bye everyone! :)
That's literally you. Keep projecting
Are these your actual opinions though? If not, what are your actual thoughts?
If you want to get to the root of the problem it's accountability. People aren't willing to be accountable for others.
It's not an issue of currency, or economics at all. It's a matter of short sightedness and a disintegrated social network.
But think about veganism like 15 years ago, how many were there? Once active participation in a global society becomes practical, you should see a strong "grassroots" movement towards a more cohesive and sustainable collective.
>We might not get there before we pass our collapse threshold
>It's possible that the majority of the wealth will accumulate with a tyrannical oligarchy.
That the rich are lucky, and pass down their wealth to their kids, who are more likely to be lucky in becoming successful in a capitalist society than someone who is born poor
Yeah, because people like being poor! If you are poor and work hard, but aren't rich, then you're just lazy!
>But think about veganism like 15 years ago
>you should see a strong "grassroots" movement towards a more cohesive and sustainable collective
Vegans are so annoying.
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yea some of us are idiots who don't want to trade value easily
Rich people handing down inheritance to their heirs certainly will help them succeed in the future. Can you elaborate more on what you mean by luck?
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